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AnacondaHL posted:If this continues the SCG Players Championship is going to be an amazingly awkward event. Wasn't there a guy at Bertoncini's last Top 8 (it was a while ago) who basically didn't acknowledge his existence? Like, "Me, <name, name, name, name, name, name>, and some other guy." or something. Cernunnos fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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JerryLee posted:I don't remember the Maro Mike Long comment but did his opinion basically at all take into account the fact that the Long era was basically the wild west of Magic compared to today? Chris Benafel, PTR, probably lots of other bad boys I don't remember were also playing around that time. It was a different era as far as quality of cheating enforcement and expectations of sportsmanship at the Pro Tour level. There's plenty of room for rivalry stories like between top teams, but I don't think we have to go back to people being toxic on the tournament floor. I don't think he grades Long on a curve because of the era he played in so much as he thinks the Hall of Fame should embrace the villains of Magic history rather than just the exemplars.
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So what MaRo is suggesting is we should have 2 Halls. One a Hall of Fame and the other a Hall of Infamy.
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Oct 11, 2014 20:45
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Cernunnos posted:So what MaRo is suggesting is we should have 2 Halls. One a Hall of Fame and the other a Hall of Infamy. No he's just saying that 'fame' doesn't have a moral component (which is true) and that therefore neither should the HoF (which is contentious and generally disputed) http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/79519836619/why-do-you-stand-by-mike-long-as-a-contender-for-the quote:I believe the Hall of Fame is supposed to be a living tribute to the history of the Pro Tour of which Long was a major part. I do not believe it is supposed to be moral yardstick to measure others against. And no, I do not believe Long will ever make the Hall.
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meanwhile at the pro tour, Sigrist has drafted a complete and utter pile vvvvv and next to no fixing A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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Oct 11, 2014 20:49
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A big flaming stink posted:meanwhile at the pro tour, Sigrist has drafted a complete and utter pile "Complete and utter pile" is a legitimate archetype in KTK limited!
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Attorney at Funk posted:No he's just saying that 'fame' doesn't have a moral component (which is true) and that therefore neither should the HoF (which is contentious and generally disputed) Ahh, okay, so he was talking more about the Hall of Fame rather than who should be actively playing in competitive Magic right now? That makes sense. But then I still don't know that it has any direct application to the Bertoncini case.
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Oct 11, 2014 21:15
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JerryLee posted:Ahh, okay, so he was talking more about the Hall of Fame rather than who should be actively playing in competitive Magic right now? That makes sense. But then I still don't know that it has any direct application to the Bertoncini case. I don't think it does, honestly, except maybe insofar as them playing up Mike Long in the past informs how sheepish they are about giving Bertoncini coverage now.
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Oct 11, 2014 21:19
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Attorney at Funk posted:I don't think it does, honestly, except maybe insofar as them playing up Mike Long in the past informs how sheepish they are about giving Bertoncini coverage now. Yeah, I'm not willing to ascribe a lack of Bertoncini on camera to unwillingness on Wizards' part to "reward the cheater." If they were confident enough that he would cheat that they made it a matter of policy not to show him then they simply would ban him from the tournament.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Yeah, I'm not willing to ascribe a lack of Bertoncini on camera to unwillingness on Wizards' part to "reward the cheater." If they were confident enough that he would cheat that they made it a matter of policy not to show him then they simply would ban him from the tournament. I don't think it's a punitive measure so much as people get loudly mad whenever he gets face time and it's rarely the case that there's not someone else equivalently worth featuring.
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Oct 11, 2014 21:22
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watanabe is being trolled beyond belief by his deck
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Oct 11, 2014 21:27
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By Maro's logic we need to let butt-crack guy into the Hall of Fame.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:By Maro's logic we need to let butt-crack guy into the Hall of Fame. Um excuse me it is called CRACKGATE.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:By Maro's logic we need to let butt-crack guy into the Hall of Fame. you make that sound like a bad thing vvv lol it loving figures
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Cernunnos posted:Wasn't there a guy at Bertoncini's last Top 8 (it was a while ago) who basically didn't acknowledge his existence? Like, "Me, <name, name, name, name, name, name>, and some other guy." or something. Yep, Fabiano, known fair-play stickler.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:By Maro's logic we need to let butt-crack guy into the Hall of Fame. mike long was actually good at magic though
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Oct 11, 2014 21:51
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Nehru the Damaja posted:By Maro's logic we need to let butt-crack guy into the Hall of Fame. Butt-crack guy has honestly got more press coverage for Magic than Finkel ever did. There's no such thing as bad publicity.
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Oct 11, 2014 21:52
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Matignon's Jeskai Student taking down the Riverwheel Aerialists was probably my favorite play of the event so far.
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qbert posted:Yep, Fabiano, known fair-play stickler. Here is a fun story about G.Fab from the last SCG Open, courtesy of The Source: quote:Only other interesting thing was my Round Nine match. I'll paraphrase the dialogue.
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Just about everything I read about SCG tournaments, and PTQs for that matter, makes them seem like really unfun hellholes. I know it's probably confirmation bias on my part, but it just seems like someone made a club for all the sociopathic tryhards who can't actually hack it at the pro level consistently, and it makes me wonder why I would want to go to one of those things even if I had the chance.
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AgentSythe posted:Here is a fun story about G.Fab from the last SCG Open, courtesy of The Source: Awesome. Someone else also posted a story here about playing Fabiano and how he tried to get that person DQed for accidentally seeing the top card of his library. Then another poster here said that basically Fabiano is a known huge diva at every event. So in summary, he sounds just peachy to play with.
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Oct 11, 2014 22:27
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I think I'd rather deal with his stupid self-centered bullshit than blatant cheating.
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Oct 11, 2014 22:32
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On another note, why does Jon Finkel constantly look like his family was just killed in a car accident?
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qbert posted:On another note, why does Jon Finkel constantly look like his family was just killed in a car accident? Per Twitch chat: "Finkel isn't actually balding, he just rubbed his hair off while in the tank". Dude looks like he's on absolute life tilt.
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qbert posted:Awesome. Someone else also posted a story here about playing Fabiano and how he tried to get that person DQed for accidentally seeing the top card of his library. Then another poster here said that basically Fabiano is a known huge diva at every event. yeah that was me. i talked about giving fabiano the benefit of the doubt, but afterwards when i mentioned it to one of my friends he said that Fabiano accused him of being a cheater for an easy win as well. so yeah, think i'm more in the camp of gently caress that guy now e: Cernunnos posted:I think I'd rather deal with his stupid self-centered bullshit than blatant cheating. i'm not sure trying to get someone dq'ed is technically cheating, but i imagine being on the receiving end of both doesn't feel much different A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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Oct 11, 2014 22:46
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So, has literally anything from Khans dropped in value, or will packs continue to be surprisingly high EV for a bit?
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Oct 11, 2014 22:57
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Dig Through Time has started to deflate from it's price explosion last night. Other than that? Not really it seems.
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Oct 11, 2014 23:08
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Topdeck a fetchland, go to 3, slam-dunk a Zurgo into your enemy's face for the win. Ari Lax's draft deck is the greatest thing I have ever seen. 
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ungulateman posted:Topdeck a fetchland, go to 3, slam-dunk a Zurgo into your enemy's face for the win. Ari Lax's draft deck is the greatest thing I have ever seen. I liked Threatening the lone morph which Ari flipped in response. It was a Monastery Flock.
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Can someone tell me why I should hate Rich Hagon? Because All I've seen of him is from PT coverage and he just seems like a pretty animated guy enthusiastic for the game/event.
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Mr. Peepers posted:Can someone tell me why I should hate Rich Hagon? Because All I've seen of him is from PT coverage and he just seems like a pretty animated guy enthusiastic for the game/event. He's a LOT better at the newsdesk than he is in the commentary booth.
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JerryLee posted:Just about everything I read about SCG tournaments, and PTQs for that matter, makes them seem like really unfun hellholes. I know it's probably confirmation bias on my part, but it just seems like someone made a club for all the sociopathic tryhards who can't actually hack it at the pro level consistently, and it makes me wonder why I would want to go to one of those things even if I had the chance. Because it's the most straightforward way to get better and have a shot at the top. And we prefer the term "grinder" over tryhard. On one hand, all these stories we hear are a very small percentage compared to the standard "I played 9 rounds and went X-Y and had a good time and nothing happened between my opponents and myself" experiences. There's a fair bit of camaraderie, respect, and cheering for each other to succeed compared to the FNM level. On the other hand, it takes only one of these bad experiences to ruin it for everyone involved and to sour one's opinion on Competitive REL tournament play, hence making Competitive REL the worst form of sanctioned MtG play w.r.t. amount of risk/reward.
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Mr. Peepers posted:Can someone tell me why I should hate Rich Hagon? Because All I've seen of him is from PT coverage and he just seems like a pretty animated guy enthusiastic for the game/event. Because he plays a role that nobody else on Wizards' commentating staff is talented enough to take advantage of. Hagon has lots of great stories & asks solid questions for the audience's benefit, but he needs someone with him who knows more about the game than he does. He just really can't carry a broadcast, which is a shame because I love listening to him with LSV or similar pros.
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Oct 12, 2014 00:29
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Hoooly poo poo. All formats (pretty literally, including 'make one up') are now FNM sanctioned.
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Vanguard is making a return?
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Oct 12, 2014 00:43
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New FNM formats! Including: Literally every format ever made, and some other ones
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Except Pauper!
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Zenephant posted:Except Pauper! If 'Reject Rare' is acceptable, I'm pretty sure Pauper can at least technically qualify via 'make it up'.
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FNM is now just Texas Hold' Em.
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JerryLee posted:Just about everything I read about SCG tournaments, and PTQs for that matter, makes them seem like really unfun hellholes. It's a cliquey, toxic environment full of try hards doing their best to pull one over on everyone else at all times of course it's miserable.
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