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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


RabbitMage posted:

Coastal Humboldt County. I've been out a few times with my friends, but we all have no idea what we're doing. My friend's managed to catch a few surf perch, but no luck for me so far.

Oh good I think I can help. Do you have a jetty, pier, harbor, wharf, cliffs or just sandy beach?

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bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
What do you all think of this method of tying a snell?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbkBjiEOFio

It is by far the easiest I have found thus I distrust it.

nmfree
Aug 15, 2001

The Greater Goon: Breaking Hearts and Chains since 2006

Slugworth posted:

That was fast, thanks. And of that list, sheepshead is the only one I have heard around here.
Generally I've heard them called drum when they're in Green Bay/ Lake Michigan and sheephead when in inland lakes & rivers.

From Fish of Wisconsin Field Guide:

quote:

Other Names: sheepshead, croaker, thunderpumper, grinder, bubbler (commercially marketed as white perch)

Notes: Drum are named for the grunting or rumbling noise made by males, primarily to attract females; the sound is produced by specialized muscles rubbed along the swim bladder.

RabbitMage
Nov 20, 2008

LingcodKilla posted:

Oh good I think I can help. Do you have a jetty, pier, harbor, wharf, cliffs or just sandy beach?

Yes, yes, no, no, no, yes. That I know of, anyway.

perabyte
Apr 2, 2005

Angry

Kazak_Hstan posted:

What did you go after them on? I did a bit of silver fishing on the fly this year (I'm mostly a spin fisherman) and they seemed to only be interested in garish pink things for me. It was kind of fun for a guy who does not do the whole delicate precise fly fishing thing.

I got a good majority of mine on Clouser minnows in chartreuse, and egg sucking leeches in purple and pink on the sunny days and black on the overcast days. you need to pretty much hit them on the head with the fly to get them to take it, so casting accuracy is pretty important.

Bangkero
Dec 28, 2005

I baptize thee
not in the name of the father
but in the name of the devil.

bunnielab posted:

What do you all think of this method of tying a snell?

It is by far the easiest I have found thus I distrust it.
Totally doable. The method in the video you posted is for creating snell knot leaders. If you want to tie a snell knot directly onto your fishing line I use a modified snell knot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukzfzws2jYY

Some trout fishing pics. My buddy and I were slamming these bows all day. I was using dry flies and he was using wet. Such as great weekend to be out and enjoy the fall colours in Ontario.




Bonus panoramic of the fish ladders we have placed around the province which allows the salmon and trout to make their way past the river dams from the great lakes to their spawning grounds.

Bangkero fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Sep 29, 2014

Kazak_Hstan
Apr 28, 2014

Grimey Drawer

perabyte posted:

I got a good majority of mine on Clouser minnows in chartreuse, and egg sucking leeches in purple and pink on the sunny days and black on the overcast days. you need to pretty much hit them on the head with the fly to get them to take it, so casting accuracy is pretty important.

Interesting, pretty much the opposite of spin fishing colors then, at least for west Cook Inlet this year. Small dark spinners on bright days, big colorful spinners on rainy days were the trick.

And you don't have to be too accurate a fly fisherman to catch a silver on a fly, because I did it, and I suck at fly casting. I basically just tried to floss them likie reds when I could find them holding in decent numbers.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Couldn't keep browns off the hook on the Madison in Montana last year at this time. Rappala rainbow trout pattern with a random retrieve. Took a few rainbows with it too. Silly piscovores.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

RabbitMage posted:

Coastal Humboldt County. I've been out a few times with my friends, but we all have no idea what we're doing. My friend's managed to catch a few surf perch, but no luck for me so far.
You're really in a great area for fishing. My uncle lives in Klamath and catches all kinds of poo poo. I was born in Eureka but never spent enough time growing up down there to know the area, although my dad knows it like the back of his hand. You can also check out the california DFW web site for a lot of good resources including fishing reports and stocking locations and dates if you just want to catch pellet fish. http://www.dfg.ca.gov/fishingpassport/guide.asp

My uncle says you can get some amazing fish on the Smith river, although from how he says it, the Klamath river is not super great for salmon unless you have a Native friend with bank-side property and no limit, but if you can get out to the river delta and hit the saltwater there are some huge perch hanging around..

I'd go to a few local fishing shops and ask for some pointers on places to try, or just find a cheap book on fishing in Nor Cal/PNW.

coyo7e fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Sep 30, 2014

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Bangkero posted:

Totally doable. The method in the video you posted is for creating snell knot leaders. If you want to tie a snell knot directly onto your fishing line I use a modified snell knot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukzfzws2jYY

Oh my god that is so easy compared to the traditional or uni snell.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


bunnielab posted:

Oh my god that is so easy compared to the traditional or uni snell.

That way is the way I was taught (last year around this time), and it does work great until your hooks start getting small. It's a real pain with 2lb on smaller than #8 hooks. Works just fine with #1 or 1/0, though.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
It's finally begun to rain off and on in OR, so I am heading to the coast this weekend to see if I can catch a salmon who's gotten scent of rainwater. Spooled up one of my reels with braid and I'm looking forward to trying it out. :)

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

That way is the way I was taught (last year around this time), and it does work great until your hooks start getting small. It's a real pain with 2lb on smaller than #8 hooks. Works just fine with #1 or 1/0, though.
At that size I tend to use a trilene knot.

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006
How do you figure out which baits to use and whether to use a bobber or not?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


If you mean with really casual fishing just about anything will go for a worm. Just dig up a piece of earth a few yards back from the water.

I find bobbers tedious to keep were you want it to be an prefer using a surf casting leader with the bare minimum weight to keep it in one place. The leaders have two loops on them to place hooks and keep it off the bottom a bit. Keep your line tight so the bait stays off the bottom. Attach a little bell to the tip if you like.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Christobevii3 posted:

How do you figure out which baits to use and whether to use a bobber or not?
Lick my finger and measure the wind. :science:

Falukorv
Jun 23, 2013

A funny little mouse!
Went fishing for pike as usual, and most of the time i go to my preferred spot that lies 40 minutes away by bike in a secluded little cape in the forest.
This time i went to the nearest fishable land spot, which is an abandoned jetty located on a small strait of water only 5 minutes away on foot from where i live. I have only fished from there twice before, never catching anything.
Today i was too lazy/tired to bicycle through the hilly terrain to go to my usual places, but still had an inkling to fish.
So to my surprise, i actually caught a small pike (around 1 kg). Still, large enough for two whole meals, so i kept it! Baked it in the oven whole. Half i ate for dinner, other half i keep as leftovers.
Where i live pike is a seriously underrated food fish IMO, and it feels good eating something so delicious that was caught only 5 minutes from where i live!

First time i've fished since august, i need to get out and fish more this month, while they're still biting.



Two months ago i had one of the highlights of my fishing experiences, actually catching for the first time a zander. I was aiming for pike, as i consider bagging a zander such a rarity so i never expect to catch one.
In the waters i fish in they aren't really that rare, it's more that they are hard to catch when fishing from the limited areas of land spots available due to their special behaviors and habits. People who catch alot of those have more specialised equipment and most importantly, boats.

And an other thing that added to the surprise, when the zander hooked on the lure it felt completely different when compared to how it feels like when a pike hooks.
I thought, at first, that i had gotten my lure stuck to the bottom or to some seaweed, as it felt more like a somewhat abrupt retardation of the lure rather than the immediate jerking i usually feel when a pike grabs the lure.
So i went from thinking that, drat, got my lure stuck to something, and then discovering that it was actually the legendary fish i never had hoped of catching.

So i ate it, first time i tasted one, which i was very excited about since they're considered to be a delicacy here and probably the freshwater fish in my country which has the best reputation foodwise.

I was a bit disappointed, it didn't live up to the hype. Don't take me wrong, it tastes great, reminds me of European seabass and perch, but i actually prefer the pike, which in a way is good news for me as those are far easier for me to catch.

Here's the Zander, not an impressive size, pretty average, but in the purpose of eating it huge doesn't mean tastier. As long as big enough for a meal or two, i'm happy. I'm not into breaking personal best records for huge specimens with C&R, for me eating them is 2/3rds of the fun.



And the same zander cooked:



Falukorv fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Oct 1, 2014

Grifter
Jul 24, 2003

I do this technique called a suplex. You probably haven't heard of it, it's pretty obscure.
I live in the twin cities, Minnesota. My brother is coming to visit me soon. He's a much bigger fisherman than me, but his experience is primarily in the Pacific Northwest. My experience level is pretty low - bait and reel fishing for Crappie as a child. We're talking about possibly doing some fishing for Muskie, which would be new to both of us. I've heard that Lake Minnetonka is good for that.

1. I'm considering hiring a guide service because I don't have any gear or experience. Long shot, but does anyone have a specific guide service in the area they could recommend?
2. Failing that, how do I spot a good guide?
3. Is October a good month for Muskie in Minnesota?
4. My brother is also interested in fly fishing, can you typically do both fly and bait fishing, is it just that you're looking for a totally different fish but can do it in the same place?

This is the service I'm considering now.

Kazak_Hstan
Apr 28, 2014

Grimey Drawer
Lake Minnetonka has a decent fishery, but as a result it is also pretty crowded. That's probably less of a problem now that it's getting somewhat chillier and the partyboat crowd won't be out on the lake. That guide service looks about as good or bad as any other guide service, but I haven't ever used a guide in Minnesota. I can say that you can rent a 16' Lund at a couple marinas on Lake Minnetonka for under $100 for a day's fishing. If your brother knows how to fish for pike, he probably knows enough to fish for musky without a guide.

For fly fishing, I've tried on Minnetonka with minimal success just for shits and giggles. I've never really thought lake fly fishing was all that fun, but if you can figure out what fish are eating and put something that looks like it near their cover something will often enough bite. I'd recommend nymphs on sinking or sink tip line, but I don't actually know what I'm talking about there. Since you're looking for musky you can also try some of the fun looking mouse or frog imitations. Strip them fast near weeds and such, maybe something big will bite it! Here are some ideas for better places to fly fish: http://bobmitchellsflyshop.com/pages/local-waters

I am not super expert on Minnesota fishing, but everything I know about fish in places where the lakes freeze tells me that fish go crazy before freeze up, trying to get every last meal before things get dark and sluggish. That is at least the case back home in Alaska. So, I assume that applies in Minnesota. If so, October should be good for fishing.

The only other thing I would suggest is that musky fishing tends to be pretty hit or miss, it's a low-N big reward kind of fishing, so you may want to consider targeting other species to spice it up, since might wind up doing a lot of musky fishing and minimal musky catching.

IMO you should go visit him for the fishing, salmon are more fun than lake fish.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Falukorv posted:

And the same zander cooked:



This looks tasty, how did you cook it? Do I see leeks and... parsley? stuffed inside? Butter sauce?

Falukorv
Jun 23, 2013

A funny little mouse!

Pham Nuwen posted:

This looks tasty, how did you cook it? Do I see leeks and... parsley? stuffed inside? Butter sauce?

I baked it in the oven for more or less half an hour, wrapped in aluminium foil. Yeah, it's parsley and leeks, which i sprinkled on the outside and inside of the fish, along with garlic, pepper, and salt. Sometimes i substitute leeks fo yellow onion. The sauce is butter and olive oil. I put a stick of butter inside the cavity of the fish, and then i douse the fish with olive oil. If calories are a concern you can just stick with one of the fats like most people do. Or eat less of the "sauce" and stick mostly to the meat, the fish has sucked up the flavor anyway.
I think i used too much oil though, that big pool of oil really isn't necessary. Didn't ruin anything either though, except that it's a little wasteful.

Also, i have descaled the fish, which really helps the fish absorb the flavor from the herbs and spices and keep moisture, plus, makes the skin eatable. Keeping the skin is seriously underrated around people i know, it really adds alot of taste to the fish.

Falukorv fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Oct 3, 2014

DoctaFun
Dec 12, 2005

Dammit Francis!

Grifter posted:

I live in the twin cities, Minnesota. My brother is coming to visit me soon. He's a much bigger fisherman than me, but his experience is primarily in the Pacific Northwest. My experience level is pretty low - bait and reel fishing for Crappie as a child. We're talking about possibly doing some fishing for Muskie, which would be new to both of us. I've heard that Lake Minnetonka is good for that.

1. I'm considering hiring a guide service because I don't have any gear or experience. Long shot, but does anyone have a specific guide service in the area they could recommend?
2. Failing that, how do I spot a good guide?
3. Is October a good month for Muskie in Minnesota?
4. My brother is also interested in fly fishing, can you typically do both fly and bait fishing, is it just that you're looking for a totally different fish but can do it in the same place?

This is the service I'm considering now.

If you are serious about trying to catch a muskie, and I mean actually serious about it, go to Mille Lacs and hire a guide up there, that would be my advice. It's a world class muskie fishery and within an hour and a half of the cities.

If you were dead set on the cities, you could try some of the city lakes, there's actually some big muskie in Cedar. We've caught them off the pier just throwing out big sucker minnows and drinking beer, it's kind of low percentage, but it's easy.

Ironsolid
Mar 1, 2005

Fishing isn't an addiction, it's a way of life. Everything to gain while losing everything
My son and I destroyed the catfish last night. We were out for right around 3 hours, my son was tired, rain was coming so we left. If I were out by myself, I would have bared the rain the fishing was so good.

Industrial
May 31, 2001

Everyone here wishes I would ragequit my life

DoctaFun posted:

If you are serious about trying to catch a muskie, and I mean actually serious about it, go to Mille Lacs and hire a guide up there, that would be my advice. It's a world class muskie fishery and within an hour and a half of the cities.

If you were dead set on the cities, you could try some of the city lakes, there's actually some big muskie in Cedar. We've caught them off the pier just throwing out big sucker minnows and drinking beer, it's kind of low percentage, but it's easy.

Minnetonka is actually a great muskie lake if you don't mind dodging all of the pleasure boaters. I have seen multiple 50+ inch fish in there.

DoctaFun
Dec 12, 2005

Dammit Francis!

Industrial posted:

Minnetonka is actually a great muskie lake if you don't mind dodging all of the pleasure boaters. I have seen multiple 50+ inch fish in there.

Not saying MInnetonka isn't a good muskie lake at all, but if I had one day to fish muskies I'd pick Mille Lacs over Tonka...

Grifter
Jul 24, 2003

I do this technique called a suplex. You probably haven't heard of it, it's pretty obscure.
Thanks for the discussion, guys. I'm going to look at guide services for both Minnetonka and Mille Lacs and do some price and availability comparisons.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
Ok, I want to buy a set up for pier fishing over the fall and winter. How does this set up look:


The rod is rated for 1-8oz so it should cover all my pier needs and maybe let me do a little surf fishing when I get dragged to the beach in the summer. Does this look OK and/or does anyone have a different suggestion?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


bunnielab posted:

Ok, I want to buy a set up for pier fishing over the fall and winter. How does this set up look:


The rod is rated for 1-8oz so it should cover all my pier needs and maybe let me do a little surf fishing when I get dragged to the beach in the summer. Does this look OK and/or does anyone have a different suggestion?

Find an ugly stick for half the cost I think. That's kinda really expensive for a pier pole. Kinda short for surf casting from my west coast experience. Surf casting was always less productive than poke poling anyways.

tesilential
Nov 22, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

bunnielab posted:

Ok, I want to buy a set up for pier fishing over the fall and winter. How does this set up look:


The rod is rated for 1-8oz so it should cover all my pier needs and maybe let me do a little surf fishing when I get dragged to the beach in the summer. Does this look OK and/or does anyone have a different suggestion?


Don't buy that rod. I'd get a ST croix mojo or tidemaster for the money. Maybe even a Shimano terramar.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

LingcodKilla posted:

Find an ugly stick for half the cost I think. That's kinda really expensive for a pier pole. Kinda short for surf casting from my west coast experience. Surf casting was always less productive than poke poling anyways.


tesilential posted:

Don't buy that rod. I'd get a ST croix mojo or tidemaster for the money. Maybe even a Shimano terramar.

I can't find any other rod that is 1) a two-piece, and 2) can handled such a large range of weight. I need something two-piece so I can keep it in my car most of the time as I often have time to stop a fish for a few hours on the way home from work. I know 8' is short for surf casting but that is a secondary use at best. I would love some suggestions but neither of the ones above hit these points.

Other then the rod, how is the reel and line pairing? My usual pier fishing MO is to cast out either a high/low or fish finder rig out with bait on it and then amuse myself with a second rod with some kind of more active rig on it. As sometimes I wander a bit so a baitfeeder reel seems like what I want.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Where are you? What are you expecting to catch?

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

LingcodKilla posted:

Where are you? What are you expecting to catch?

Western shore of the Chesapeake Bay in MD. Shore fishing around here is poo poo, no real water access other then a few piers. However, there are a couple of piers pretty close to my house. Half are small, low wooden ones on small, slow rivers and the others are large, high affairs over some of the larger rivers that feed the bay.

As to catch, could be anything that lives in brackish water. Like, today I went to one of the small piers. I caught a 14" Channel Cat (my first catfish!) and a small yellow perch, the guy next to me caught a few white perch and a tiny rear end LMB. He said that the week before he caught an eel. The tidal rivers around here are really varied.

I want a long-ish rod as all I have now are short ones and I want something that that throw enough weight so that my line doesn't drift in the current and get crossed with someone else's. The surf thing is really an after thought, there are a few places here you can fish from the beach and I want to mess around with that a little but dont want to jump into a full on surf rod.

Ironsolid
Mar 1, 2005

Fishing isn't an addiction, it's a way of life. Everything to gain while losing everything

bunnielab posted:

Western shore of the Chesapeake Bay in MD. Shore fishing around here is poo poo, no real water access other then a few piers. However, there are a couple of piers pretty close to my house. Half are small, low wooden ones on small, slow rivers and the others are large, high affairs over some of the larger rivers that feed the bay.

As to catch, could be anything that lives in brackish water. Like, today I went to one of the small piers. I caught a 14" Channel Cat (my first catfish!) and a small yellow perch, the guy next to me caught a few white perch and a tiny rear end LMB. He said that the week before he caught an eel. The tidal rivers around here are really varied.

I want a long-ish rod as all I have now are short ones and I want something that that throw enough weight so that my line doesn't drift in the current and get crossed with someone else's. The surf thing is really an after thought, there are a few places here you can fish from the beach and I want to mess around with that a little but dont want to jump into a full on surf rod.

Try using perch as bait for channels, catfish love perch!

As far as your reel, I use one as my big cat rod, and love the bait runner feature. Beware though, if you have the bait runner engaged and mess with the spool it has a tendency to lock up, you then have to reset it by reeling and then pulling it out again.

IE. always check to make sure it's running before you set it down and give the ocean/body of water a new gift to be covered in life.

Woodpile
Mar 30, 2013
Hello, Fishing Thread.

Last week, my nephew dropped off the rod and reel combo I lent him a few months ago. He'd been tearing up lunker largemouth in South Carolina all summer with it and was kind enough to show me pictures of his fish. More recently, my younger brother returned my surf rig he borrowed for his trip to North Carolina where he was on the bluefish pretty good. A friend a little west of me goes trout fishing in the mountain streams and posts his catch on Facebook constantly.

It's been a busy year and I didn't make it out to the water nearly as much as I'd like. Today, while putting my gear to bed for the winter, I find this thread with all the pictures, stories and equipment talk. To the anglers in this thread, my nephew, my brother, friend out west: I hate you. Nothing personal.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Ok, fly fishing in the Bay Area probably isn't such a sure bet. I'm planning to make some trips to further-away rivers occasionally, but in the meantime places like the Dunbarton pier would be a neat thing to try.

I'm guessing a freshwater fly rod will be pretty useless on a pier for instance, but there are plenty of salt and freshwater non-stream spots around. Is there a cheap-ish rod and reel combo that might do me for both? poo poo I haven't done anything but fly fishing since I was about 14, somebody tell me what equipment I can use to catch some fish in our deep lakes and ocean piers/shores?

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

AtAt-de-fay posted:

Hello, Fishing Thread.

Last week, my nephew dropped off the rod and reel combo I lent him a few months ago. He'd been tearing up lunker largemouth in South Carolina all summer with it and was kind enough to show me pictures of his fish. More recently, my younger brother returned my surf rig he borrowed for his trip to North Carolina where he was on the bluefish pretty good. A friend a little west of me goes trout fishing in the mountain streams and posts his catch on Facebook constantly.
Rinse the reel and line of salt? You'll hate them much more when you pull that rod and reel out in 9 months and they're corroded to poo poo.

Pham Nuwen posted:

Ok, fly fishing in the Bay Area probably isn't such a sure bet.

I'm guessing a freshwater fly rod will be pretty useless on a pier for instance, but there are plenty of salt and freshwater non-stream spots around. Is there a cheap-ish rod and reel combo that might do me for both? poo poo I haven't done anything but fly fishing since I was about 14, somebody tell me what equipment I can use to catch some fish in our deep lakes and ocean piers/shores?
Yes. But a fly-rod will work as long as you get the correct rod weight and line weight, and you can also use bait or lures on a fly-line and lead in some circumstances.. CA is a biiig state and while I don't have a ton of experience in So Cal that I remember (was too young,) there are a fuckload of rivers, streams, lakes, bays, and the like. Maybe check out ifish.net and give some more-specific location and rigging info alongside of your specific questions in the "community" area..? :D

Also, hit up your state's DFW site (I think the acronym is a bit different but if you google for "california dept of fish and wildlife" you'll find way more than enough), they have fishing guides, rigging guides stocking maps and calendars, and also all those legalities we need to know about.. ;)

I have a pile of old trout-fishing and fly-fishing books oriented around Nor Cal which would maybe be just what you need - so my advice is hit up a used bookstore, and then start looking for bait and tackle stores once you get used to the structure and species you're looking for.. :)

coyo7e fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Oct 12, 2014

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



coyo7e posted:

Yes. But a fly-rod will work as long as you get the correct rod weight and line weight. CA is a biiig state and while I don't have a ton of experience in So Cal that I rememebr (was too young,) there are a fuckload of rivers, streams, lakes, bays, and the like. Maybe check out ifish.net and give some more-specific location and rigging info?

There is basically one fishable stream that I've found nearby. Others are either C&R only (which I may hit up to practice on) or filthy. There may be stuff on the peninsula or around Santa Cruz, I'm still searching. I'm in the S.F. East Bay. Fremont's Dumbarton Pier sounds pretty awesome, goes way into the bay. My rod is only 5wt and has an appropriately sized line on it.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
Welp, I have seen all kinds of way-better-than-I folks talking about catching surf fish on a flyrod in surf-waters. Also I've see people with 10 foot salmon/deep-fishing rods and reels hitting poo poo off the rocks next to a small river delta. The best fishermen I personally know? Rock light rods and reels with heavy-test braid and a light leader (for salmon most of the time, switch out if there'e bigger fish to fry...).. As my uncle (in law I guess) says, "when I set my hook, if I'm rockin' 40 pound test and fishing shoulder to shoulder with a buncha idjits then I just wait until they line gets stuck to mine while I'ma fightin' and BAM yank that poo poo, cut they line in half. That'syer combat fishin'!" Lighter leader, but a main-line you can cut a throat with, as it were. :fuckoff:

I would personally say, go to a few estate/garage/yard sales and buy a non-fly rod/reel combo that looks not-eroded and then invest 5-40 bucks in good line. Maybe keep an eye open for some waders and good 8-10 foot rod and reel combos for even better deals because they're as common as dirt. But you can certainly get lucky with a decent fly rocking anywhere you want - and it'll be fun as gently caress.

If I were you I'd spend a couple hours perusing the CA Department of Fish and Game or w/e their acronym is, there is a lot of super-useful info there and nearly all state "DFW sites" have "easy angling" pages full of maps with lists of stocking dates, fish species, and recommended lures and rigs. After getting 15 years out of practice fishing, I spent at least an hour researching online per hour with a hook in the water which resulted in a fish - although that ratio is rapidly turning over nowadays! :D

Nowadays I spend a bit more time scouting river-banks in the car with my dog than with a hook in the water, because I got no drift boat and the bankie spots are popular, so I'm kind of making up a local map of where to show up at 430am.. :laugh:

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Pham Nuwen posted:

Ok, fly fishing in the Bay Area probably isn't such a sure bet. I'm planning to make some trips to further-away rivers occasionally, but in the meantime places like the Dunbarton pier would be a neat thing to try.

I'm guessing a freshwater fly rod will be pretty useless on a pier for instance, but there are plenty of salt and freshwater non-stream spots around. Is there a cheap-ish rod and reel combo that might do me for both? poo poo I haven't done anything but fly fishing since I was about 14, somebody tell me what equipment I can use to catch some fish in our deep lakes and ocean piers/shores?

When I lived in LA, I fished places like the owens river for trout with a 4/5 weight, and fished the surf with an 8 weight and sinking line for surf perch, corbina, halibut, leopard sharks, all kinds of poo poo.

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Dec 28, 2002

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Pham Nuwen posted:

There is basically one fishable stream that I've found nearby. Others are either C&R only (which I may hit up to practice on) or filthy. There may be stuff on the peninsula or around Santa Cruz, I'm still searching. I'm in the S.F. East Bay. Fremont's Dumbarton Pier sounds pretty awesome, goes way into the bay. My rod is only 5wt and has an appropriately sized line on it.

Pham I live within walking distance of the dumbarton Pier. PM if you plan on going as I would be curious. Not sure what would bite on a fly at the pier but I know of a lot of spots general fishing spots in the area.

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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Clean out your inbox so you can tell me all the good fishing spots in the east bay :v:

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