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Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Webcormac McCarthy
Nov 26, 2007
Ok I started watching 'From the New World' and would recommend it based on the first arc, if you are looking for sweet action/mystery, but then I watch episode 8 and now the majority of students are homosexual with no foreshadowing. I'm glad they take it further with tongue kissing/making out but it just comes out of nowhere. I guess puberty has changed in a thousand years.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

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Wark Say posted:

So, at request of my daughter, we started watching the Girls Und Panzer Blu-Rays I got a few days ago. Since I love the anime and it looks like she's enjoying them too, I gotta ask: Are the various mangas / novels side-materials any good?
Since no one else chimed in what little I read of some of the manga spin-offs made them out to be 50-50 decent running gags (yay) and fanservice (boo). It did not seem particularly promising.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

goodness posted:

Anyone know of some animes that consist of survival games and the like, ex. Battle royale or hunger games

Sabagebu. :v:

Sydnesider posted:

Ok I started watching 'From the New World' and would recommend it based on the first arc, if you are looking for sweet action/mystery, but then I watch episode 8 and now the majority of students are homosexual with no foreshadowing. I'm glad they take it further with tongue kissing/making out but it just comes out of nowhere. I guess puberty has changed in a thousand years.

From the New World is a show that often keeps its cards close to its chest in regard to what's going on, but everything gets explained eventually, including that. I think.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Sydnesider posted:

Ok I started watching 'From the New World' and would recommend it based on the first arc, if you are looking for sweet action/mystery, but then I watch episode 8 and now the majority of students are homosexual with no foreshadowing. I'm glad they take it further with tongue kissing/making out but it just comes out of nowhere. I guess puberty has changed in a thousand years.

It was totally foreshadowed. The False Minoshiro explained that the Cantus users were genetically engineered to be like bonobos.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

Sydnesider posted:

Ok I started watching 'From the New World' and would recommend it based on the first arc, if you are looking for sweet action/mystery, but then I watch episode 8 and now the majority of students are homosexual with no foreshadowing. I'm glad they take it further with tongue kissing/making out but it just comes out of nowhere. I guess puberty has changed in a thousand years.

you should look up some of the reactions from when that episode first got released after you finish the show, it was really funny

Twiddy
May 17, 2008

To the man who loves art for its own sake, it is frequently in its least important and lowliest manifestations that the keenest pleasure is to be derived.

Sydnesider posted:

Ok I started watching 'From the New World' and would recommend it based on the first arc, if you are looking for sweet action/mystery, but then I watch episode 8 and now the majority of students are homosexual with no foreshadowing. I'm glad they take it further with tongue kissing/making out but it just comes out of nowhere. I guess puberty has changed in a thousand years.
The fact that you claim there's no foreshadowing more or less proves you weren't paying attention.

Sakurazuka posted:

From the New World is a show that often keeps its cards close to its chest in regard to what's going on, but everything gets explained eventually, including that. I think.
See, I never felt that From the New World ever kept its cards close to its chest. It just relied on a lot of subtlety and subtext, which people seem to have a hard time following. It was very free with information if you were reading into anything going on.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

goodness posted:

Anyone know of some animes that consist of survival games and the like, ex. Battle royale or hunger games

Deadman Wonderland maybe? I'm not a massive fan but if you wan't some of that dark edgy Shonen that's been popular lately this falls into the same loose category and it's better than, say, Btooom IMHO.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Nate RFB posted:

Since no one else chimed in what little I read of some of the manga spin-offs made them out to be 50-50 decent running gags (yay) and fanservice (boo). It did not seem particularly promising.

Bummer. Thanks for the tip, Nate!

Sydnesider posted:

Ok I started watching 'From the New World' and would recommend it based on the first arc, if you are looking for sweet action/mystery, but then I watch episode 8 and now the majority of students are homosexual with no foreshadowing. I'm glad they take it further with tongue kissing/making out but it just comes out of nowhere. I guess puberty has changed in a thousand years.

How on earth did you miss the explanation for that? It's explained in succinct but still perfectly good detail and used as a plot-point, even. Did they delete that scene on the BD's or something?

Wark Say fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Oct 13, 2014

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

So a friend of mine recommended me Wanna Be The Strongest In The World. It's about a Idol singer who tries to become a Pro Wrestler. The first time I tried to watch it I shut it off at the opening credits because one of the one of the first shots of the show is a close up of the main character's crotch. I gave it another chance and now I'm six episodes deep and as a Pro Wrestling fan I really am digging it. It's still fanservicy as all hell but they are actually did something interesting with it.

I was wondering if there were any other shows or manga that are about Pro Wrestling. I know theres Ultimate Muscle but I was hoping for stuff more based in reality.

Edit: I should also clarify, it doesn't have to be about woman's wrestling. Just anything Pro Wrestling in general.

BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Oct 13, 2014

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

Well there's Wanna-Be's, which while I haven't seen it in a while remember it being terrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZePbBcg5SI

For something that isn't garbage Happy Scans and HnG have been translating the Tiger Mask manga.

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer
Teppuu is an amazing manga about woman's MMA.

RyuujinBlueZ
Oct 9, 2007

WHAT DID YOU DO?!

The Devil Tesla posted:

Teppuu is an amazing manga about woman's MMA.

I'll second this. I'd kill for a Teppuu anime, too.

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGKgBssiPyA

Is this a good anime or just a good clip

I must know

Webcormac McCarthy
Nov 26, 2007

Wark Say posted:

How on earth did you miss the explanation for that? It's explained in succinct but still perfectly good detail and used as a plot-point, even. Did they delete that scene on the BD's or something?

I am sorry I am not an eagle-eyed viewer with a week's worth between episodes to re-watch and analyse every scene and could not catch 2 lines in seven episodes of blatant boy-girl pairing. Since I proved I cannot read accurately I will watch the dub and give my full undivided attention to this animes.

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

ninjewtsu posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGKgBssiPyA

Is this a good anime or just a good clip

I must know
Both kind of. Plastic Nee-san was a series of 12 two minute shorts directed by Tsutomu Mizushima (Hare+Guu, Girls und Panzer.) I thought it was funny.

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

Oh so like an Inferno Cop/Turning Girls type thing? Awesome, thanks

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

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ninjewtsu posted:

Oh so like an Inferno Cop/Turning Girls type thing? Awesome, thanks

It was cute and usually funny, but it's no Nichijou. Dai;y Lives of High School boys comes sorta close, but wasn't as good (but was still good). Dai Mahou Touge was also close in funny-but-weird-as-poo poo. I liked both of those. But Nichijou was something special.

Drifter fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Oct 13, 2014

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

I'm not 100% sure whether I enjoyed what I watched or not

It was kind of a weird thing

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
Watch Dai Mahou Touge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEQ1n7EHPM

The episodes are even on youtube, I think.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Wow. Some people in adtrw have been recommending Aiki repeatedly recently and I've been running out of things to read on my tablet at work, so I gave it a try.

I made it six chapters in before unbookmarking it, which is impressive since I usually give everything I read ten chapters before deciding to continue or not. Based on those six, unless the rest are literally not at all like them, the series has no redeeming value. The fights are generic at best, the main character is an overpowered shitbag who hosed half the named characters in those six chapters, it is literally softcore porn with bad fighting and ~dumb bitches~ to be put in their place by the gary stu scumbag protagonist, and probably the worst offense of it is that the humor is the most rote, bland attempts at it. Also, incest by chapter two.

Kinda disappointed people were recommending it at all unless it was ironic and I fell for it like people recommend Bible Black or School Days. I'd suggest avoiding it if someone suggests it to you.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
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Captain Invictus posted:

Wow. Some people in adtrw have been recommending Aiki repeatedly recently and I've been running out of things to read on my tablet at work, so I gave it a try.

I made it six chapters in before unbookmarking it, which is impressive since I usually give everything I read ten chapters before deciding to continue or not. Based on those six, unless the rest are literally not at all like them, the series has no redeeming value. The fights are generic at best, the main character is an overpowered shitbag who hosed half the named characters in those six chapters, it is literally softcore porn with bad fighting and ~dumb bitches~ to be put in their place by the gary stu scumbag protagonist, and probably the worst offense of it is that the humor is the most rote, bland attempts at it. Also, incest by chapter two.

Kinda disappointed people were recommending it at all unless it was ironic and I fell for it like people recommend Bible Black or School Days. I'd suggest avoiding it if someone suggests it to you.

The word I keep coming back to for Aiki is "puerile." I got farther than you did because it got talked up in the seinen thread, but I never really enjoyed it and have no desire to pick it back up again. I don't even count it as seinen; it's generic shounen with tits, so it can't be published in shounen mags (I guess?).

There's a guy in here with an Aiki avatar who regularly posts in the "Convince people with one image" thread, and almost every image is one that makes me want to put that title in a "never read this ever" list. No offense to him, I think our sensibilities are just wildly different.

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Oct 25, 2007

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Well, its author is a porn artist, so I guess it's pretty much exactly what you'd expect.

And my god, that wikipedia page is hilariously awful. Someone wrote that. Seriously.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Wow, he did Tende Freeze. I remember reading that ages ago, around the same time I read Tenchi Muyo or so. I literally cannot remember anything from it except it was generic fanservicey shounen with a main character who iirc looked exactly like a little kid version of the Aiki guy. The art was at least pretty decent and retro-feeling.

edit: FUNKY ANIMAL is a pretty great name though

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer

Che Delilas posted:

I don't even count it as seinen; it's generic shounen with tits, so it can't be published in shounen mags (I guess?).

There is no difference between the average seinen manga and shounen with tits.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Anyone got any girls' romance that has more to it than just fanservice? Failing that, a fun slice of life series with a good romance in it would also be good.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Spiritus Nox posted:

Anyone got any girls' romance that has more to it than just fanservice? Failing that, a fun slice of life series with a good romance in it would also be good.

like lesbian romance or romance targeted at girls?

if it's the former there isn't much for anime. Sasameki Koto got an adaptation, but it only covers a small part of the manga. The manga is pretty good though. also Bodacious Space Pirates actually has a gay romance that's handled tastefully, which was surprising. Not a huge focus though.

if manga is okay read Sasameki Koto, Octave and Aoi Hana

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Yeah, there's a lot. I whipped up a pretty big post of romance stuff over in the misc shojo/romance thread.

Captain Invictus posted:

Alright, apologies for the double post but this thread doesn't move too quickly, and I've nearly run out of suggestions folks gave me, I think! Things I've read so far that's been suggested and what I thought of them:

Ai-Ren(tragedy, romance, sci-fi, psychological) - Very moving, while I think most of the apocalypse subplot was extraneous, Ai and Ikuru were adorable together. Probably one of the most impactful things I've ever read, likely due to my experience with horrible death and tragedy in the past. I would not want recommendations similar to this series, though, it was really soul-crushing reading the last third or so of Ai-Ren. A series that, while often about romance, is mostly about life, death, humanity, and acceptance. I am frankly astonished it's never been put out in English.

Sasameki Koto (yuri, drama, comedy, school) - Felt this one was roughly a third longer than it needed to be. I enjoyed a lot of it, but felt certain characters and arcs were shoehorned in as padding. Still nice, the drama was pretty well-thought-out for a romance manga, the romance itself was pretty solid, and the comedy was also good.

Octave (adult, yuri, drama, slice of life, post-school life, active relationship) - Probably one of the best romance series I've read so far. The main character is flawed, insecure, selfish, petty, and psychologically scarred so she's got some serious mental issues to sort out, her insecurities wind up hurting her a lot. Portrays homophobia more realistically than many of the other series I've read(when it bothers with it), the romance is interesting and they deal with all sorts of issues pretty smoothly(in regards to pacing). One character in particular kinda seems like an exposition fairy. The ending is a little abrupt but still, one of the better series I've read in this list.

Masturbation Master Kurosawa (drama, school, psychological, mental issues, romance, mature stuff) - I read this a long time ago but might as well include it in the list. Probably in the top 10 manga I've read, pretty hosed up but surprisingly well made, story moves at a solid pace and the characters show genuine change throughout instead of it being yet another status quo hell. Can be really difficult to convince people to read it due to the name, but when I've gotten folks to, they've usually been surprised by how good it is. I'll have to read it again some day.

Wandering Son(Hourou Musuko) (drama, romance, transsexualism, school years) - One of the best manga I've read, period, deals with lots of real issues pretty realistically. Follows a young boy who identifies as a girl, a girl who identifies as a boy, and their struggles as they grow from elementary school kids to middle and then high schoolers. Deals with conflicts with bullying, discrimination, and identity crises very well. There are some flaws but overall one of the most open-minded series I've read. When I finished it I immediately bought the first volume, then when I got that and found how high-quality the books are, I bought the other four available. Seriously top-notch book quality, to boot.

Paradise Kiss (romance, fashion, comedy, drama drama drama) - Paradise Kiss is one of those series that when being introduced to a genre, is one of the first most folks would suggest. Very dramatic, very romantic, very well-done art(though my one major gripe is the AyeAye-like spiderfingers people have), and also very very funny at the right moments. Lots of twists and turns, some unexpected. Doesn't overstay its welcome and is very solid throughout, a real showstopper.

Lovely Complex (shoujo, romance, comedy, high school hijinks, drama) - Has some of the best funny faces I've seen in manga, really goddamn funny a lot of the time. The high school romance is good, Seiko is cringeworthy(though still handled better than you'd think a comedy series would), it starts to lose steam later on unfortunately and does that thing I don't like where the series ends along with graduation. I hate that so much. If I had to compare it to something, it'd be like...the Dragon Ball of romance series? Maybe? Not the best but definitely something you should eventually check out if you get into the genre. I hear the anime's better though, and that there's a finished sequel called Love Com 2 but that's not fully translated yet. Love Com is a weird series in that it seems to keep hinting that it could have a much deeper story, but doesn't. Such as in Love Com 2 when Risa's brother mentions how Risa has no idea the situation she's in, which sounded like she's totally hosed up her life's chances.

B Gata H Kei(Yamada's First Time) (4koma, romance, comedy, sex, school) - A wacky 4koma about an attractive perverted virgin girl who falls for the most run-of-the-mill dude in class. Has roughly a billion chapters(each chapter is 7 4komas), takes absolutely forever to go anywhere, and yet is still a satisfying series. Some stuff can be straight-up skipped, and it does feel like it's stuck in status quo hell, but it does gradually go somewhere and progress. Not a regrettable read, actually pretty satisfying and can be pretty funny. Still, around a hundred chapters too long.

Sekitou Elergy (drama, romance, comedy, post-school, blue-collar workers, slice of life, sex) - Take the palms of your hands and mush your face so it makes your lips pucker. You now look like a character in Sekitou Elergy. The faces are hilarious, and the background artwork is really drat good most of the time. Very grimy, very crude, very unflattering, that is this series. Everything is dirty. Everyone is a total shitbag. The protagonists are a cowardly failure and a rude, brutish loner working part-time jobs. But the series is just so god drat appealing and fun, and really drat funny a lot of the time. The characters grow and progress at a fairly normal pace, their romance is pretty adorable and hilarious. Not fully scanlated unfortunately, but definitely one to keep an eye on.

Girl Friends (yuri, slice of life, school comedy, drama, oogy woogy fluffy bunnies) - Super cutesy fluffy yuri romance. Cute, enjoyable, was a pretty solid read, nothing super special or terrible or anything, a "safe" series. Probably worth picking up if it gets a bit cheaper.

Bonnouji (adult, post-school, romance, slice of life, comedy, active relationship) - Bonnouji doesn't really need any introduction. It's one of my favorite series out there for slice of life romance, and it's super fun and adorable as well. I tend to get the same sort of feeling reading Bonnouji as I do Yotsuba, though Bonnouji is for more mature audiences. It's just a wonderful, lighthearted series.

Fragments of Love (yuri, romance, school) - Not sure what to think of this just yet. Feels pretty solid but not much has been translated, only half a dozen chapters so far.

Aoi Hana (yuri, romance, drama, slice of life) - I'll probably need to re-read this series, but I do remember enjoying it for the most part, though it seemed kind of aloof at times. By the same person who did Wandering Son, and apparently the final loving chapter hasn't been scanlated because some weird website that advertises porn on their front page has licensed it for digital distro but hasn't even released the first volume and nothing turns up the series in their search. Great.


I'm sure there's others I've just forgotten I read, but so far those are the series I've read. Any suggestions for others would be appreciated, though I prefer series that don't finish with the relationship actually beginning, I feel that's a major cop-out to end the series at that point. Stuff like Octave or Bonnouji and such that have the relationship as the focus rather than the end goal are the types I like.

Captain Invictus posted:

Wow uh, why is Sand Chronicles not in the OP? Aside from the horrible spiderfingers and general hand anatomy for most of it(I just got the last three volumes and the artist seems to have practiced a lot to fix it for those), it's an extremely well done series about a girl who goes through life, love, and traveling after suffering a major traumatic experience when young. It portrays things like trauma, depression, and the inability to let go pretty realistically, love, unrequited love, moving on, and other topics. The "heroine" is very flawed and doesn't always make the best decisions. The time scale is in years, not days or months, and it moves through Elementary, middle, and high school at a fairly brisk, reasonable rate, rather than beginning at, like, the first year of high school and ending at graduation. It then continues on into her life past the typical school years.

I was a bit surprised and maybe disappointed to see that volume 8 is where the main story actually ends even though there's a 9th and 10th volume since my main reason for buying the last three volumes was to see where it would go in three whole volumes with how things ended in volume 7, but the side stories in those are so god drat good(and mostly take place after the story concludes anyways) that it was well worth reading them. I felt the actual story's ending was a bit rushed, but that could also be due to the whole series moving at a pretty rapid pace altogether(the story begins when Ann is 12, and ends when she's at least 30, spending a decent amount of time on each stage of her life up to that point.

Definitely worth the read. The spiderfingers are still the worst though and kinda ruin a bunch of scenes because they're so drat badly drawn. Glad she fixed that for the last three books for the most part.

There's also Cheese in the Trap, an interesting korean manwha about a girl and a sociopath, and Jitsu Wa Watashi Wa, which is one of my favorite series now because it's an adorable, dumb, really funny romcom with basically no fanservice outside of one character whose entire MO is fanservice(and yet is still a great character in her own right).

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

^^ - thanks, I'll take a look through some of those.

Cake Attack posted:

like lesbian romance or romance targeted at girls?

The former. Though if there's nothing more grounded than Bodacious Space Pirates I might be out of luck as far as Anime goes. How about slice of life with decent romance?

Spiritus Nox fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Oct 19, 2014

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
If you want yuri, you absolutely want Octave, Aoi Hana, Sasameki Koto, and Girl Friends then.

Bonnouji is the gold standard for slice-of-life romance. Probably my favorite romance series period. Sekitou Elergy is also fairly slice of life/romance, but only a quarter of it has been scanlated. It's about blue-collar service workers past a school setting(a rare breed!) who end up together and then continues on through their relationship, which is even better!

Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Oct 19, 2014

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Feb 6, 2007

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Spiritus Nox posted:

How about slice of life with decent romance?

Some slice of life anime series with romance that I'm aware of include Servant x Service (silly workplace antics,) One Week Friends (sweet as cane sugar, chilled out,) and Working!! (status quo hell as far as the romance goes, but quite funny.)

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Working is bad

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Captain Invictus posted:

Working is bad

I'm letting this slide because I think you were the dude that recommended me Bonnouji. Next time, you better get me that harrumph on time, Capitan. :toughguy:

vvvv e: They're both pretty sweet shows. But as it's been said before, neither presents the story in full, but if you like them enough, you'll probably end up checking the manga. :)

Wark Say fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Oct 19, 2014

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Captain Invictus posted:

Aoi Hana, Sasameki Koto

Which of these had the better anime (assuming either actually made for a good anime)? I don't mind manga, but I'd prefer an anime.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Spiritus Nox posted:

Which of these had the better anime (assuming either actually made for a good anime)? I don't mind manga, but I'd prefer an anime.

Aoi Hana

Neither gets anywhere near the actual end, but it at least gets through the first major arc. It looks great too.

For yuri it's pretty much manga or nothing. Sadly.

a kitten fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Oct 19, 2014

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Got it. Thanks for the tips, folks. I'll probably check out Aoi Hana, and maybe Bonnouji.

Lallander
Sep 11, 2001

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you must whip it.

Spiritus Nox posted:

Got it. Thanks for the tips, folks. I'll probably check out Aoi Hana, and maybe Bonnouji.

Bonnouji is pretty drat good I must say.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Spiritus Nox posted:

Which of these had the better anime (assuming either actually made for a good anime)? I don't mind manga, but I'd prefer an anime.

If you want a yuri anime that's not completely terrible and actually has a proper ending you could try Kashimashi (the manga is still better though). And I don't advise anyone watch it, but if your standards are as low as mine there's always Strawberry Panic, though that's purely desperation material.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Wark Say posted:

I'm letting this slide because I think you were the dude that recommended me Bonnouji. Next time, you better get me that harrumph on time, Capitan. :toughguy:

Servant x service is the finished product compared to working's drawing board with some doodles and a crude scrawl of a child kidnapper on it

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Working does have the better OP though I will give you that

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