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PERMACAV 50
Jul 24, 2007

because we are cat

hallo spacedog posted:



Bellies, onions, garlic and kimchee by wanderinghyena, on Flickr
Add pork belly and cook, stirring constantly, until just cooked through, about 1 minute. Add scallion whites, garlic, and chopped kimchi. Cook, stirring constantly, until fragrant, about 1 minute.


Question: I'm making this tomorrow night; did you add water to the pot here to cook it in?

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DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

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Did anyone watch The Kimchi Chronicles? The host has a series of 'webisodes' out now called Kimchi Goddess. Can't attest to the quality and it does look a bit... not my style, but thought I'd throw it out there.

Archer2338
Mar 15, 2008

'Tis a screwed up world

Mr. Wiggles posted:

I guess I didn't think to compare it to naengmyun, since that's cold noodles and what I was thinking of was served hot. Similar flavor profile, though. I suppose it would be like hot naengmyun but with extra kimchi and maybe some charred onions instead of fresh vegetables.

Somehow I missed the part about the dish being hot :v: My bad.
Still, it's a great time for naengmyun!

sink the biz
Jun 13, 2002

My goodness my Guinness

DontAskKant posted:

Did anyone watch The Kimchi Chronicles? The host has a series of 'webisodes' out now called Kimchi Goddess. Can't attest to the quality and it does look a bit... not my style, but thought I'd throw it out there.

I watched a few episodes.... it was interesting if not a bit vainglorious. I loved hearing Hugh Jackman mangle Korean words in his Australian accent. "Bibim-BWAP". Also Heather Graham is such a babe.

Specialist
Jan 5, 2005
Dr. Sweet Baboo

DontAskKant posted:

Did anyone watch The Kimchi Chronicles? The host has a series of 'webisodes' out now called Kimchi Goddess. Can't attest to the quality and it does look a bit... not my style, but thought I'd throw it out there.

I really enjoyed it & would totally go to noraebang with anyone on that show. We thought it was a well-filmed primer, and Marja's jajangmyeon recipe is our go-to. We tried Jean Georges' kimchi butter on a steak this weekend and it was great. Glad to hear she's doing other stuff!

PERMACAV 50
Jul 24, 2007

because we are cat
Soondubu happened tonight! Grabbed the wrong tofu and too much of it, but it was still most tasty.



The final verdict from the housemate:



"That was GROSS, Hobbit. I loving HATED it. :v: "

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.
I made kimchi and it came out pretty good despite me screwing up a few things. It was supposed to be a doubled up version of this recipe from TheKitchn which makes 1 quart - I ended up with about a gallon probably because I used 2 pounds of daikon instead of 1 pound (not complaining). It fermented on my counter for six days, opening the jars once midway to push the kimchi down into the juice. Out of habit, I put gochujang (3T) into my paste before realizing I didn't need it. I never really use gochugaru or if I do it's always with gochujang so my brain helpfully told me I needed it for this. That's also why I only added 4T gochugaru instead of 8-10T. This is what actually went in:

4lb napa cabbage
2lb daikon
1/2 cup sea salt
Water
1 head of garlic
2t grated ginger
2t sugar
6T fish sauce
4T gochugaru
3T gochujang
8 scallions

After six days of fermenting on the counter in a warm to hot apartment (75+), it came out fine except obviously not spicy and incredibly sour. I know kimchi can get sour over time, but this is near painful levels of sour. I'm wondering if it was the duration it fermented that made it come out that way? The recipe says 1-5 days on the counter, but I forgot to put it in the fridge. There was almost no juice when I first jarred it, which someone in the comments says is normal. I tried maangchi's recipe a long time ago and screwed it up in a spectacular fashion (it was inedible because I didn't realize that red pepper flakes =/= gochugaru).

It makes great jjigae though :swoon:
Freshly packed into jars:

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

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Yeah a fermentation at high heat like that only takes me a couple days. Higher the heat and longer the time , the faster it will become sour. I wouldn't actively heat it, but room temp like that will get it going fast. In my 30C Korean apartment it starts gushing out of a container in 2 days. The long fermentations for storage are for underground or chilled fermentations. If you want more juice, use less rice powder as that will give you more of a 'sauce'.

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.

DontAskKant posted:

Yeah a fermentation at high heat like that only takes me a couple days. Higher the heat and longer the time , the faster it will become sour. I wouldn't actively heat it, but room temp like that will get it going fast. In my 30C Korean apartment it starts gushing out of a container in 2 days. The long fermentations for storage are for underground or chilled fermentations. If you want more juice, use less rice powder as that will give you more of a 'sauce'.
It didn't occur to me until I posted that to factor in the heat of the apartment. :downs: I'm doing another batch this week and its going to continue being really hot so I'll test it at 2-3 days for sourness. I might try Maangchi's recipe again since it doesnt seem nearly as "dry" as TheKitchn's. Thanks :)

Fooley
Apr 25, 2006

Blue moon of Kentucky keep on shinin'...
Apologies if this was covered, but I had a question about making kimchi. I'm probably going to follow this recipe, but I noticed on Maangchi's she only soaks for a couple hours as opposed to 12. What effect does the longer soak time have? Also the store near me didn't have fermented shrimp but that shouldn't be too big a deal, right? I have everything else.

dino.
Mar 28, 2010

Yip Yip, bitch.
You can kimchi with really simple ingredients: salt, sugar, ginger, garlic, onion, gochugaru. Fish sauce, oysters, squid, daikon, and scallion are all bonuses to change the flavour slightly. If you use straight up salt on the leaves, soak for an hour and rinse off the salt. If you use salt and water, soak overnight.

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

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Seafood things will give it a more authentic flavor. I've made vegan kimchi before and it has been great. I use fish sauce usually as a milder version of the squid/oyster/shrimp versions.

calilco
Mar 27, 2010
My old Korean mom said that soaking the cabbage in salt water makes the leaves softer and easier to peel (?). When we make kimchi at home, we usually leave it soaking in water and salt overnight and flip the cabbage every two hours or so.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I think the shrimp add a great flavor and are worth tracking down, but fish sauce should be sufficient. Like dino says you don't have to use any seafood, but any kimchi you've had almost certainly did use seafood flavorings so it's not going to come out like you're imagining if you don't. Whether that's a good or bad thing is between you and your tongue. Just saying, if you're trying to replicate your experience with it at restaurants get something fishy in there.

Fooley
Apr 25, 2006

Blue moon of Kentucky keep on shinin'...

Grand Fromage posted:

I think the shrimp add a great flavor and are worth tracking down, but fish sauce should be sufficient. Like dino says you don't have to use any seafood, but any kimchi you've had almost certainly did use seafood flavorings so it's not going to come out like you're imagining if you don't. Whether that's a good or bad thing is between you and your tongue. Just saying, if you're trying to replicate your experience with it at restaurants get something fishy in there.

Yeah I had everything from the Chow recipe except daikon and the shrimp.


Looks like kimchi anyway. Im going to at least triple the recipe next time since I didn't realize how much volume I'd lose after the salt part.

Shadowhand00
Jan 23, 2006

Golden Bear is ever watching; day by day he prowls, and when he hears the tread of lowly Stanfurd red,from his Lair he fiercely growls.
Toilet Rascal
I found this the other day at Hankook market in Sunnyvale. Its Instant Soon Doobu from BCD (pretty good Tofu chain in LA).



If you guys see it and have a lazy night planned, its an easy way to make something pretty drat delicious.

Shadowhand00 fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Oct 12, 2014

VenusInFurries
Apr 12, 2014

<3 tsalaroth
You might want to timg that.

Shadowhand00
Jan 23, 2006

Golden Bear is ever watching; day by day he prowls, and when he hears the tread of lowly Stanfurd red,from his Lair he fiercely growls.
Toilet Rascal

VenusInFurries posted:

You might want to timg that.

Thanks, I just noticed that this morning :v:

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


No MSG and misspelled, not bringing that in MY house. :colbert:

cryptoclastic
Jul 3, 2003

The Jesus
So I made kimchi jjigae yesterday and I realized I haven't e a thing of doenjang that expires in a week or so. What should I cook to use it all up? Doenjang jjigae? I could just smear it on pork and fry it up? Both of those sound good and easy but I feel I should do something I haven't done before.

Shnooks
Mar 24, 2007

I'M BEING BORN D:
Does anyone have a Samgyetang recipe that they've tried and liked? I'm feeling adventurous and want to try making some. Also I have a fuckton of dried jujubes that I don't know what to do with.

Also, any suggestions for making leftovers of any soups? I find they never hold up overnight or when I have to take them to work the next day :(

Shnooks fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jan 31, 2015

SnowWolf
Nov 20, 2005

Sex Hobbit posted:

Soondubu happened tonight! Grabbed the wrong tofu and too much of it, but it was still most tasty.



The final verdict from the housemate:



"That was GROSS, Hobbit. I loving HATED it. :v: "

I made hallo spacedog's recipe today. Main difference was I used anchovy stock powder instead of actual anchovies, but the taste was comparable to restaurant-quality soondubu. Really easy to make too, it's going to be a staple in my diet

POOL IS CLOSED
Jul 14, 2011

I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.
Pillbug

Shnooks posted:

Does anyone have a Samgyetang recipe that they've tried and liked? I'm feeling adventurous and want to try making some. Also I have a fuckton of dried jujubes that I don't know what to do with.

Also, any suggestions for making leftovers of any soups? I find they never hold up overnight or when I have to take them to work the next day :(

I like Maanchi's samgyetang recipe, though I usually omit the ginseng. It's a little hard to get fresh ginseng if you don't live where it's grown (and if you try to pick it wild, you might get shot at for poaching :yayclod:). I add a couple slices of ginger and some chestnuts instead.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Angry Asian posted:

What does everyone use for their bulgogi marinade?

Mine usually consists of...

1/3 cup soy sauce
1 tbl sugar
2 cloves minced garlic
1 grated onion
1 grated apple/pear
some chopped green onions

Just wondering what other variations I can try out there that works for others

Coming back late to the thread: You can replace the apple/pear with kiwi as well.

Shnooks
Mar 24, 2007

I'M BEING BORN D:

RedTonic posted:

I like Maanchi's samgyetang recipe, though I usually omit the ginseng. It's a little hard to get fresh ginseng if you don't live where it's grown (and if you try to pick it wild, you might get shot at for poaching :yayclod:). I add a couple slices of ginger and some chestnuts instead.

Good to know! Hers was really the only one I could find, and the other recipe I saw was basically a copy of hers.

And yeah, I have no idea where to find fresh ginseng. I'm pretty sure it's nowhere around here.

POOL IS CLOSED
Jul 14, 2011

I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.
Pillbug

Shnooks posted:

Good to know! Hers was really the only one I could find, and the other recipe I saw was basically a copy of hers.

And yeah, I have no idea where to find fresh ginseng. I'm pretty sure it's nowhere around here.

The only kinds I've ever seen sold are dried or preserved, so they're not really the best for the recipe. Samgyetang kits (some Korean grocers will sell them!) usually have some strips of dried ginseng. It's not unpleasant, but it adds nothing and doesn't taste like much or have an interesting texture.

Do try using the sticky rice instead of short grain. If you can buy sticky rice from a bulk bin, you can get just the amount you want instead of a five pound bag. I like to stuff jujubes or dried goji berries into the chicken's cavity along with the sticky rice and a garlic clove. (My samgyetang isn't too authentic.)

Speaking of, has anyone else made sikhye? It's actually stupid easy if you have a rice cooker. Plus you can have all the little fluffy rice bits in it you want if you make your own. The leftover stuff is kind of like mutant amazake.

Shnooks
Mar 24, 2007

I'M BEING BORN D:

RedTonic posted:

Speaking of, has anyone else made sikhye? It's actually stupid easy if you have a rice cooker. Plus you can have all the little fluffy rice bits in it you want if you make your own. The leftover stuff is kind of like mutant amazake.

I've never made sikhye but I want to. How do you do it with a rice cooker?

POOL IS CLOSED
Jul 14, 2011

I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.
Pillbug

Shnooks posted:

I've never made sikhye but I want to. How do you do it with a rice cooker?

Maangchi explains! You can cut the recipe down (half, quarter, whatever). I haven't had any bad results doing so. Definitely do not leave the sikhye in the cooker for too long, or you'll get a nasty hooch instead. It isn't strictly necessary to add the sugar, but I find that the final product is more consistent from batch to batch if you do. You also don't have to do the boiling bit; that halts fermentation, which is good if you won't finish drinking your batch for a few days.

There's also a related recipe in Growing up in a Korean Kitchen, but I can't find my copy for some reason. It's probably buried right now. I've been cleaning, which involves making an even bigger mess than there was before. :iiam: I really like this book, though.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
To be perfectly honest, a lot of the samgyetang you get here has, like, a TEENSY slice of ginseng and the rest is made up with ginger. The most ginseng you'll consume at most samgyetang places is in the form of insam-ju.

off-topic, I know, but does anyone else miss Ginseng Rush soda? :swoon:

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
So i noticed my local asian mart had those rice cake noodle things, and tried my hand at Tteokbokki (Ddeokbokki, Topokki, Dukbokki- whatever).

I used the recipe from Eat Your Kimchi (Ex-firm tofu instead of fish cakes); finished with a nice sticky barbecue sauce consistency. Super hot to start, but it mellows out as it cools.
The rice cakes have a texture like nothing I've ever eaten except maybe... dense marshmallows? Tapioca pearls? :raise:

Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Apr 6, 2015

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

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Yeah the texture is half the point of eating it. At least over here.

EVG
Dec 17, 2005

If I Saw It, Here's How It Happened.
I found proper rice sticks ONCE at my local Asian grocers (I live a 20 minute walk from 'Little Vietnam' but despite checking 5+ stores I never found them again. Guess I'll need to suck it up and take the 40min bus ride to the Korean grocer, because I've been craving dak galbi. I did find thin sliced rice sticks (shaped like a carrot cut thin on the bias) but it's not the same.

RobotsLoveSpectres
Dec 29, 2008
Last time I had dak galbi the people I was with didn't like the rice sticks. Disappointing.

canoshiz
Nov 6, 2005

THANK GOD FOR THE SMOKE MACHINE!
In Korea my friend took me to a dakgalbi place that had cheese-stuffed tteok :eyepop:

EVG
Dec 17, 2005

If I Saw It, Here's How It Happened.
How is tteokk pronounced, anyways?

Ojjeorago
Sep 21, 2008

I had a dream, too. It wasn't pleasant, though ... I dreamt I was a moron...
Gary’s Answer

EVG posted:

How is tteokk pronounced, anyways?

Dock.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Duck is the most similar English word, but that isn't correct either. It's aspirated D, the eo vowel which depends on your dialect, the Korean I learned it's mostly an uh sound but has a little bit of a long O in it as well, and k is the final. Ddeok.

When you see a consonant doubled it's stronger and aspirated, it's really hard to hear the difference as an English speaker.


Yeah that's close too. If you try to imagine something between duck and dock you're pretty close.

theDOWmustflow
Mar 24, 2009

lmao pwnd gg~
I think of the "d" sound in ddeok as an intermediate between d and t. Or how it sounds when someone pronounces "duck" or "do" in a thick Indian accent.

Anyways, I'm currently trying to eat healthier and have chosen samgyetang as my main staple because it's simple, cheap, and tastes "clean". I'm a sucker for the flavor of meat/chicken/boiled bone broth with a bit of salt. My question is, does it matter what type of ginseng I use? Every recipe I've seen calls for the thin and hairy ginseng root, but then only ginseng I've found at my local markets is blocky and bulky. Is this stuff okay to use as an alternative?

Also makgeolli is my favorite alcoholic beverage because of its 3:1 protein to carb ratio. Old Korean people got it right, screw the haters.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Got some radishes at the farmers market so I was going to try and make some kkakdugi. The radishes have the green tops on them and they're in fairly good shape. Should I throw those in as well? Or not even bother? I also got some green garlic so I was going to use that as well.

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theDOWmustflow
Mar 24, 2009

lmao pwnd gg~
Green tops like this?

If it looks like the above, yeah that's fine. Peel and dice as per usual. Or do you mean the leafy part?

Also hey, Maangchi made the New York Times! http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/03/dining/maangchi-youtube-korean-julia-child.html

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