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It's around the start of the season, which means it's time for this again! What is a "Moon Poll"? A moon poll is a goon-created computer ranking of college football teams. In past years, my understanding is that they usually limited their focus to teams in FBS, but there's enough data for at least some systems to be able to rate pretty much every college with a varsity football team (except that one New England conference in DIII that doesn't play OOC games). I'll warn you that if you do this you're likely to see undefeated teams from lower divisions sneaking into the overall top 40, though. Being computer rankings, they're usually all over the map in a hilarious fashion for much of the season but will settle on something close to a consensus near the end. Incidentally, I have no idea who coined "moon poll" but I love the phrasing. Last year's thread is here and is still on the live forums. (Older threads: 2012 2011) How do I make a Moon Poll? You're almost certainly going to need an algorithm of some sort. You can program it yourself, or work out something in Excel. As for your criteria, you can really pick anything you like, though most conventional systems don't use much more than who beat who and by how many points (and indeed the official BCS computers only used who beat who because reasons). David Wilson has a pretty substantial listing of a bunch of existing systems; most of them keep their formulas secret but some of them clearly explain the math behind what they're doing, if you want something to work from and can follow it. Once you get something going, post your rankings in this thread each week! Where do I get data? Peter Wolfe, whose rankings If you need stats, I still haven't been able to find a good source for those since the NCAA changed the way their site worked and a lot of our polls disappeared. ![]() How do I get this stuff into a post without it looking like garbage? I totally forgot about this last year due to that whole not-actually-running-my-system thing, but this handy tool proved useful to some folks back in 2012. Just throw some pre tags or whatever around it and you should be good to go. Anything else? Last year I said Basil Hayden posted:I'll be doing weekly compilations of rankings throughout the season, like I did last year. These come complete with deviation measures, BCS comparisons, a Bottom Ten just for fun, and of course big tables with tiny football helmets in them. It's important to note that most of the algorithms used in these sorts of ranking systems don't start producing results at all until two or three weeks into the season, and don't produce sensible results until most teams have played seven or eight games. Basil Hayden fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Oct 5, 2014 |
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I'm bringing back my parked in conference call moon poll. It started as an experiment in what kind of ranking I would get if one took the sabermetric concept of Pythagorean Expectation and applied it to college football scoring. I originally weighed points the same which produces a great moon poll on its own - for example here's the pythagorean top 10 from last year - 1. Florida State 2. Louisville 3. Alabama 4. Baylor 5. Oregon 6. Michigan State 7. Bowling Green 8. Wisconsin 9. Ohio State 10. Utah State The current pythagorean expectation I use is PF^2.42/(PF^2.42 + PA^2.8) so that points allowed are weighed heavier. Over time I've made some adjustments to take more factors into account: - Subtract defensive yards allowed from offensive yards, multiply this times .001, and add to score - a way to penalize bad offenses more than anything - Subtract turnovers from takeaways, and adjust so a turnover +/- of +8 equals one win. This probably overstates a luck value but screw it. - Add .13 for a win, .05 extra for beating an AP Top 25 team - Drop .15 for a loss, .09 extra for losing to a FCS team - I then go in the weeds with my strength of schedule. I work up my own strength of schedule by averaging the to-this-point score of every team's opponent, and then converting that score to a rank - strongest is 1 (often that's Washington). I then award a bonus on a sliding scale of the rank's percentage of the 75th percentile of teams in FBS (this year, 96) so that strongest SOS gets a 33% bonus, #2 gets a little less, and starting with rank 97 actually penalize. There's no floor for the penalty. This doesn't do much for teams with tough schedules and mediocre records (often that's Washington) so there may be room for improvement So, I ended up with a more sedate top 10 of this - 1. Florida State 2. Missouri 3. Auburn 4. Michigan State 5. South Carolina 6. Stanford 7. Alabama 8. Oklahoma 9. Louisville 10. Baylor This year I'm thinking of creating two polls - one for power 5 teams (where Group of 5 losses count equal to FCS losses) and the other for Group of 5 teams (where Power 5 wins count as Top 25 wins, extra if said team is actually top 25) - and removing the SOS adjustments. Good lord that became an effort post. dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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Vegasinsider still has the same page layout so I'll probably do my pointspread-based poll again.
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This is always one of my favorite threads and I used to have a poll but I don't know how to make one so I just watch.
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This'll be my third moon poll season. The first season there was a really nice set of machine-readable FBS/FCS data straight from the NCAA website. Then it went away for no reason, and I went to an FBS-only source at cfbstats.com. Now that's gone away, and I've finally gotten irritated enough to learn regular expressions and write a scraper for the NCAA human-readable scores website. On the down side, I have to manually copy/paste each new week's html into a text file, but on the plus side it now includes FCS again. Anyway, my poll doesn't start working until all the teams are connected so I won't have numbers to post for a while. But if for some reason the data in the OP goes away, I'll post my scraped stuff as a backup.
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Now that everyone has played (Cincinnati) my poll is coherent.pre:Rank Team Record Score Conferences - 1 Oklahoma 3-0 1.9591 1. SEC 4.719 2 Florida 2-0 1.9440 2. Pac 12 4.549 3 Alabama 3-0 1.8728 3. ACC 3.785 4 Ole Miss 3-0 1.8691 4. Big 12 1.627 5 LSU 3-0 1.8003 5. Big 10 0.927 6 Notre Dame 3-0 1.7976 6. Conf USA -0.233 7 Mississippi State 3-0 1.7949 7. MWC -0.243 8 Auburn 2-0 1.7116 8. American -0.346 9 Baylor 3-0 1.5970 9. Sun Belt -0.369 10 BYU 3-0 1.5180 10. MAC -0.398 11 Pittsburgh 3-0 1.4844 12 Oregon 3-0 1.4686 13 Texas A&M 3-0 1.4254 14 Stanford 2-1 1.3617 15 Duke 3-0 1.3295 16 NC State 3-0 1.3259 17 TCU 2-0 1.3183 18 Arizona 3-0 1.2932 19 Marshall 3-0 1.2778 20 Penn State 3-0 1.2735 21 Northern Illinois 3-0 1.1892 22 Arizona State 3-0 1.1379 23 Nebraska 3-0 1.1104 24 Missouri 3-0 1.0920 25 Utah 2-0 1.0534 pre:Rank Team Record Score 26 Kentucky 2-1 0.9711 27 California 2-0 0.9499 28 Syracuse 2-0 0.9415 29 USC 2-1 0.9387 30 UCLA 3-0 0.9162 31 Louisville 2-1 0.9073 32 Kansas State 2-0 0.8637 33 Texas State 1-1 0.8464 34 West Virginia 2-1 0.8336 35 Florida State 2-0 0.8332 36 Georgia Tech 3-0 0.8249 37 Oregon State 2-0 0.8154 38 Cincinnati 1-0 0.8066 39 East Carolina 2-1 0.7975 40 Wisconsin 1-1 0.7895 41 Memphis 1-1 0.7893 42 Ohio State 2-1 0.7854 43 Michigan 2-1 0.7843 44 Akron 1-1 0.7817 45 Arkansas 2-1 0.7743 46 UAB 2-1 0.7360 47 North Carolina 2-0 0.7196 48 Washington 3-0 0.7178 49 Boston College 2-1 0.6953 50 Clemson 1-1 0.6780 51 Virginia Tech 2-1 0.6674 52 Miami (FL) 2-1 0.6589 53 Tennessee 2-1 0.6585 54 Virginia 2-1 0.6261 55 Oklahoma State 2-1 0.6132 56 Temple 1-1 0.5895 57 Georgia 1-1 0.5819 58 Maryland 2-1 0.5606 59 Georgia Southern 1-2 0.5559 60 Boise State 2-1 0.5497 61 Louisiana Tech 2-1 0.5320 62 Air Force 2-1 0.5251 63 San Diego State 1-1 0.5181 64 UTEP 2-1 0.5085 65 Michigan State 1-1 0.5084 66 Middle Tennessee 2-1 0.4918 67 Appalachian State 1-1 0.4878 68 Old Dominion 2-1 0.4399 69 Navy 2-1 0.4344 70 Indiana 1-1 0.4105 71 Colorado State 2-1 0.3987 72 Iowa 2-1 0.3656 73 Louisiana-Monroe 2-1 0.3435 74 Nevada 2-1 0.3306 75 Rutgers 2-1 0.2835 76 Utah State 2-1 0.2698 77 New Mexico State 2-1 0.2677 78 Bowling Green 2-1 0.2603 79 Texas Tech 2-1 0.2581 80 Western Michigan 1-1 0.2457 81 South Carolina 2-1 0.2437 82 Minnesota 2-1 0.2315 83 Central Michigan 2-1 0.2273 84 Illinois 2-1 0.2080 85 Washington State 1-2 0.2065 86 Houston 1-2 0.1626 87 Western Kentucky 1-2 0.1247 88 Wyoming 2-1 0.1143 89 San Jose State 1-1 0.0892 90 Florida International 1-2 0.0539 91 Toledo 1-2 -0.0047 92 Hawaii 1-2 -0.0124 93 Texas 1-2 -0.0168 94 Ball State 1-2 -0.0184 95 Arkansas State 1-2 -0.0190 96 South Alabama 1-1 -0.0233 97 Colorado 1-2 -0.0358 98 Ohio U 1-2 -0.0360 99 Kansas 1-1 -0.0452 100 Tulane 1-2 -0.0537 101 Army 1-1 -0.0674 102 UTSA 1-2 -0.0757 103 Georgia State 1-2 -0.0790 104 Wake Forest 1-2 -0.0939 105 North Texas 1-2 -0.0988 106 Purdue 1-2 -0.1191 107 Northwestern 0-2 -0.1457 108 Buffalo 1-2 -0.1483 109 South Florida 1-2 -0.1682 110 Southern Miss 1-2 -0.1919 111 New Mexico 0-2 -0.1944 112 Louisiana-Lafayette 1-2 -0.1995 113 Connecticut 1-2 -0.2197 114 Rice 0-2 -0.2281 115 Idaho 0-2 -0.2367 116 UCF 0-2 -0.2374 117 Florida Atlantic 1-2 -0.2381 118 Tulsa 1-2 -0.2447 pre:Rank Team Record Score 119 Vanderbilt 1-2 -0.2507 120 UNLV 1-2 -0.2723 121 Iowa State 1-2 -0.2746 122 Eastern Michigan 1-2 -0.3744 123 Massachusetts 0-3 -0.3765 124 SMU 0-2 -0.4012 125 Fresno State 0-3 -0.4202 126 Troy 0-3 -0.4314 127 Miami (OH) 0-3 -0.4414 128 Kent State 0-3 -0.4563
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I like the cut of your poll's jib, Korranus.
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I was really happy to see OU #1 but then I saw Florida #2 and realized how little that polls mean so early in the season.
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Quandary posted:I was really happy to see OU #1 but then I saw Florida #2 and realized how little that polls mean so early in the season. Yeah, my poll starts out being heavily weighted towards margin of victory in the beginning but works out to weigh record more after about week 5 or so. Until then it's basically a listing of how every team's cupcake slate went.
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I tend to have to rewire everything based on my data source. This year it's data scraped from the NCAA website, so I'm back to including both FBS and FCS teams on an equal footing. (Well, formally it ranks any teams which has been involved in at least two games against an FBS or FCS team.) The poll randomly iterates over the games of the season repeatedly, adjusting ratings each time to minimize the difference between actual and expected margins of victory, with a roll-off such that (say) a 14 point victory is about twice as impressive as a 7 point victory while there's almost no difference between a 40 point margin and an 80 point margin. At this point in the season the results are a little preposterous, but hey, that's the fun of a moon poll: code:
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So the Random Walker Rankings, one of the computer systems I rather like, posted their current rankings and uh Well, you can look for yourself. Early rankings are amazing, eh? E: Will try to get my poll up and running this week. Basil Hayden fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Sep 22, 2014 |
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Ben Has Tiny Weenus posted:I like the cut of your poll's jib, Korranus. Also, just to see how my poll's working itself out, I present the top sinkers and floaters of the week - pre:Rank LW Team Record Score Conferences: SEC Rankings: 1 1 Alabama 4-0 1.9764 1. Pac 12 1. Mississippi State 2 7 Mississippi State 4-0 1.8759 2. SEC 2. Alabama 3 1 Oklahoma 4-0 1.8610 3. ACC 3. Auburn 4 8 Auburn 3-0 1.8466 4. Big 10 4. South Carolina 5 4 Ole Miss 3-0 1.8187 5. Big 12 5. Ole Miss 6 6 Notre Dame 3-0 1.7173 6. Conf USA 6. LSU 7 20 Penn State 4-0 1.5999 7. American 7. Florida 8 9 Baylor 3-0 1.5476 8. Mtn West 8. Tennessee 9 9 Oregon 4-0 1.5255 9. MAC 9. Georgia 10 13 Texas A&M 4-0 1.4993 10. Sun Belt 10. Texas A&M 11 5 LSU 3-1 1.4914 11. Arkansas 12 16 NC State 4-0 1.4372 Floaters - 12. Vanderbilt 13 15 Duke 4-0 1.4207 1. +38 - Georgia 13. Kentucky 14 10 BYU 4-0 1.4183 2. +36 - Michigan State and North Texas 14. Missouri 15 19 Marshall 4-0 1.3972 3. +29 - South Carolina 16 17 TCU 2-0 1.3116 4. +27 - Minnesota and Houston 17 18 Arizona 4-0 1.2699 5. +26 - Temple 18 14 Stanford 2-1 1.2313 19 NR Georgia 2-1 1.2310 Sinkers - 20 23 Nebraska 4-0 1.2191 1. -53 - Akron 21 11 Pittsburgh 3-1 1.1450 2. -41 - Florida 22 25 Utah 3-0 1.1444 3. -38 - Texas State 23 NR Wisconsin 2-1 1.1266 4. -36 - West Virginia 24 NR Arkansas 3-1 1.1110 5. -35 - Michigan 25 22 Arizona State 3-0 1.0988 pre:Rank Team Record Score 26 Ohio State 2-1 1.0848 27 Louisville 3-1 1.0549 28 Oregon State 3-0 1.0137 29 Michigan State 2-1 0.9637 30 Temple 2-1 0.9612 31 East Carolina 3-1 0.9505 32 Washington 4-0 0.9499 33 USC 2-1 0.9478 34 Georgia Tech 4-0 0.9410 35 Memphis 2-1 0.9317 36 Florida State 3-0 0.9296 37 UCLA 3-0 0.9286 38 Boise State 3-1 0.9030 39 Boston College 3-1 0.8978 40 Missouri 3-1 0.8350 41 Kentucky 2-1 0.7968 42 Georgia Southern 2-2 0.7810 43 Florida 2-1 0.7314 44 Cincinnati 2-0 0.7292 45 Northern Illinois 3-1 0.6690 46 Tennessee 2-1 0.6607 47 UAB 2-1 0.6582 48 Kansas State 2-1 0.6016 49 California 2-1 0.5810 50 Oklahoma State 2-1 0.5788 51 Maryland 2-1 0.5392 52 South Carolina 3-1 0.5340 53 Syracuse 2-1 0.5314 54 Indiana 2-1 0.5260 55 Minnesota 3-1 0.5023 56 Air Force 2-1 0.5005 57 UTEP 2-1 0.4919 58 Old Dominion 3-1 0.4775 59 Houston 2-2 0.4764 60 Iowa 3-1 0.4673 61 Clemson 1-2 0.4596 62 Western Michigan 2-1 0.4502 63 Rutgers 3-1 0.4471 64 Colorado State 2-1 0.4024 65 Nevada 2-1 0.3998 66 Illinois 3-1 0.3834 67 Virginia Tech 2-2 0.3817 68 Virginia 2-2 0.3774 69 North Texas 2-2 0.3713 70 West Virginia 2-2 0.3674 71 Texas State 1-2 0.3380 72 Louisiana-Monroe 2-1 0.3364 73 Wyoming 3-1 0.3328 74 Miami (FL) 2-2 0.3061 75 Texas Tech 2-1 0.2602 76 Kansas 2-1 0.2498 77 Appalachian State 1-2 0.2449 78 Michigan 2-2 0.2431 79 North Carolina 2-1 0.1944 80 Utah State 2-2 0.1590 81 Middle Tennessee 2-2 0.1531 82 Colorado 2-2 0.1441 83 Navy 2-2 0.1436 84 Toledo 2-2 0.1424 85 Western Kentucky 1-2 0.1217 86 Louisiana Tech 2-2 0.1173 87 New Mexico State 2-2 0.1138 88 Buffalo 2-2 0.0814 89 Wake Forest 2-2 0.0569 90 Arkansas State 2-2 0.0567 91 Purdue 2-2 0.0341 92 San Diego State 1-2 0.0175 93 South Florida 2-2 0.0104 94 Central Michigan 2-2 -0.0138 95 Texas 1-2 -0.0159 96 Northwestern 1-2 -0.0213 97 Akron 1-2 -0.0247 98 UCF 1-2 -0.0284 99 Ohio U 2-2 -0.0701 100 Washington State 1-3 -0.0725 101 UTSA 1-2 -0.0729 102 Southern Miss 2-2 -0.0732 103 Bowling Green 2-2 -0.0874 104 Army 1-2 -0.1299 105 South Alabama 1-2 -0.1476 106 San Jose State 1-2 -0.1619 107 Hawaii 1-3 -0.1696 108 New Mexico 1-2 -0.1860 109 Florida Atlantic 1-3 -0.1940 110 Tulsa 1-2 -0.2414 111 Tulane 1-3 -0.2493 112 Fresno State 1-3 -0.2685 113 Rice 0-3 -0.2843 114 Iowa State 1-2 -0.3010 115 Ball State 1-3 -0.3012 116 Georgia State 1-3 -0.3012 117 Florida International 1-3 -0.3019 118 Vanderbilt 1-3 -0.3153 pre:Rank Team Record Score 119 Connecticut 1-3 -0.3417 120 Idaho 0-3 -0.3683 121 Louisiana-Lafayette 1-3 -0.3701 122 UNLV 1-3 -0.4304 123 Kent State 0-3 -0.4447 124 Massachusetts 0-4 -0.4571 125 SMU 0-3 -0.4825 126 Miami (OH) 0-4 -0.5337 127 Troy 0-4 -0.5453 128 Eastern Michigan 1-3 -0.5750 dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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FBS and FCS ranked on an equal footing. (Technically the data source and algorithm will result in any team which has played 3 or more games against FBS or FCS opponents being ranked.) Some of the screwiness such as Coastal Carolina's high ranking is simply due to the fact that "undefeated and blew out its cupcakes" is something that good teams do, and thus those teams will be ranked highly until enough games have been played to establish that those cupcakes were genuinely terrible. code:
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"My name is the SEC West, division of divisions Look on my works, ye moon poll, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that mounting losses, boundless and bare, The Big 12 only stretch far away". With OOC schedules mostly finished, this poll's about as ![]() EDIT 10/13 - Posted corrected poll. Some data from Ohio University was being entered as Ohio State, plus my SOS calculations had USC playing Florida State, not Fresno State. Oopsie. I'll have to correct my previous polls as well. pre:LW Rank Team Record Final Score 1 1 Alabama 4-0 1.9850 4 2 Auburn 4-0 1.9815 5 3 Ole Miss 4-0 1.9300 2 4 Mississippi State 4-0 1.8949 11 5 LSU 4-1 1.8447 3 6 Oklahoma 4-0 1.6820 6 7 Notre Dame 4-0 1.6355 8 8 Baylor 4-0 1.5499 10 9 Texas A&M 5-0 1.5256 16 10 TCU 3-0 1.5255 14 11 BYU 4-0 1.4910 9 12 Oregon 4-0 1.4569 18 13 Stanford 3-1 1.4250 20 14 Nebraska 5-0 1.4239 15 15 Marshall 4-0 1.4184 NR 16 UCLA 4-0 1.3620 NR 17 USC 3-1 1.3559 23 18 Wisconsin 3-1 1.2728 NR 19 Louisville 4-1 1.2678 17 20 Arizona 4-0 1.2372 NR 21 Michigan State 3-1 1.2079 19 22 Georgia 3-1 1.1414 7 23 Penn State 4-1 1.0774 13 24 Duke 4-1 1.0736 NR 25 Florida State 4-0 1.0696 pre:Rank Team Record Final Score 26 Temple 3-1 1.0582 27 NC State 4-1 1.0173 28 Kentucky 3-1 0.9496 29 Missouri 4-1 0.9145 30 Georgia Southern 3-2 0.9129 31 Georgia Tech 4-0 0.9001 32 Ohio State 3-1 0.8794 33 East Carolina 3-1 0.8782 34 Florida 2-1 0.8733 35 Maryland 4-1 0.8480 36 Washington 4-1 0.8362 37 Utah 3-1 0.8331 38 Pittsburgh 3-2 0.8102 39 Arkansas 3-2 0.7886 40 Kansas State 3-1 0.7658 41 Minnesota 4-1 0.7244 42 Virginia 3-2 0.7229 43 Air Force 3-1 0.6454 44 Iowa 4-1 0.6439 45 Oklahoma State 3-1 0.6353 46 Virginia Tech 3-2 0.6351 47 Northern Illinois 3-1 0.6260 48 Memphis 2-2 0.6186 49 Boston College 3-2 0.6119 50 Arizona State 3-1 0.6050 51 Rutgers 4-1 0.6047 52 Oregon State 3-1 0.5919 53 Miami (FL) 3-2 0.5831 54 California 3-1 0.5688 55 Nevada 3-1 0.5466 56 Boise State 3-2 0.5260 57 Clemson 2-2 0.5092 58 Colorado State 3-1 0.4827 59 Louisiana-Monroe 3-1 0.4404 60 Houston 2-2 0.4397 61 Texas 2-2 0.3844 62 Middle Tennessee 3-2 0.3622 63 North Texas 2-2 0.3582 64 South Carolina 3-2 0.3366 65 West Virginia 2-2 0.3365 66 Texas State 2-2 0.3338 67 Northwestern 2-2 0.3318 68 Syracuse 2-2 0.3293 69 Tennessee 2-2 0.3092 70 Western Kentucky 2-2 0.2963 71 Toledo 3-2 0.2948 72 Cincinnati 2-1 0.2913 73 Ohio U 3-2 0.2607 74 UAB 2-2 0.2549 75 Buffalo 3-2 0.2298 76 Old Dominion 3-2 0.2206 77 Indiana 2-2 0.2183 78 San Diego State 2-2 0.2044 79 Western Michigan 2-2 0.1550 80 Utah State 2-2 0.1415 81 UTEP 2-2 0.1116 82 Bowling Green 3-2 0.0860 83 Illinois 3-2 0.0726 84 Arkansas State 2-2 0.0527 85 Texas Tech 2-2 0.0296 86 South Alabama 2-2 0.0231 87 North Carolina 2-2 0.0220 88 Akron 2-2 0.0141 89 Wyoming 3-2 0.0003 90 Washington State 2-3 -0.0043 91 Kansas 2-2 -0.0172 92 Colorado 2-3 -0.0254 93 UCF 1-2 -0.0323 94 Florida International 2-3 -0.0483 95 Navy 2-3 -0.0647 96 Michigan 2-3 -0.0950 97 Appalachian State 1-3 -0.0986 98 Louisiana Tech 2-3 -0.1260 99 South Florida 2-3 -0.1520 100 UTSA 1-3 -0.1540 101 Fresno State 2-3 -0.1547 102 Rice 1-3 -0.1572 103 Wake Forest 2-3 -0.1665 104 Purdue 2-3 -0.1709 105 New Mexico State 2-3 -0.1779 106 Central Michigan 2-3 -0.1989 107 Hawaii 1-3 -0.2058 108 Florida Atlantic 2-3 -0.2185 109 Southern Miss 2-3 -0.2534 110 San Jose State 1-3 -0.2759 111 Georgia State 1-3 -0.2842 112 Ball State 1-3 -0.2987 113 Tulsa 1-3 -0.3123 114 New Mexico 1-3 -0.3143 115 Iowa State 1-3 -0.3405 116 Army 1-3 -0.3598 117 Tulane 1-4 -0.3887 118 Vanderbilt 1-4 -0.4004 pre:Rank Team Record Final Score 119 Louisiana-Lafayette 1-3 -0.4162 120 Connecticut 1-4 -0.4319 121 Idaho 0-4 -0.4905 122 Kent State 0-4 -0.5036 123 UNLV 1-4 -0.5177 124 Eastern Michigan 1-3 -0.5750 125 SMU 0-4 -0.5968 126 Massachusetts 0-5 -0.6082 127 Troy 0-5 -0.6538 128 Miami (OH) 0-5 -0.7487 dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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Hayden Matrix Ratings, Week Five It's baaaaack So, yeah. After a season of completely failing to run this thing, I finally went and fixed the spreadsheet, and it's actually giving me results that aren't total nonsense, somehow. Well... the top of the list looks more or less okay, at least. Conference play will probably clear out some of the weirdness; I'm honestly surprised it's as coherent as it is in week five. In seasons past, I only ranked FBS teams, with FCS collectively represented as a dummy team that typically placed a couple of spots below the very bottom. This year, I've decided to upgrade the system a bit by also ranking all of FCS as well, with the dummy team now representing all teams outside Division I entirely. With only two other polls in this thread, it's hard to get that much mileage out of a comparison—if you guys want me to try it anyway, I can give it a shot, but it probably won't be as interesting as back when we had like a dozen in 2012. Where'd the rest of you guys go? ![]() pre:+------+-----+-------------------+---------+ | Rank | FBS | Team | Rating | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+ | 1 | 1 | Auburn | 86.345 | | 2 | 2 | Oklahoma | 85.016 | | 3 | 3 | Alabama | 82.814 | | 4 | 4 | UCLA | 74.887 | | 5 | 5 | Baylor | 71.855 | | 6 | 6 | Oregon | 71.554 | | 7 | 7 | Texas A&M | 71.040 | | 8 | 8 | Nebraska | 70.797 | | 9 | 9 | Ole Miss | 68.466 | | 10 | 10 | Notre Dame | 67.879 | | 11 | 11 | TCU | 66.821 | | 12 | 12 | Florida State | 66.614 | | 13 | 13 | BYU | 66.472 | | 14 | 14 | Georgia | 65.765 | | 15 | 15 | Mississippi St. | 64.504 | | 16 | 16 | Oklahoma State | 58.253 | | 17 | 17 | Arkansas | 58.165 | | 18 | 18 | LSU | 57.800 | | 19 | 19 | Maryland | 56.931 | | 20 | 20 | West Virginia | 56.770 | | 21 | 21 | Michigan State | 55.005 | | 22 | 22 | Kansas State | 54.456 | | 23 | 23 | Clemson | 54.277 | | 24 | 24 | Missouri | 53.336 | | 25 | 25 | Arizona | 53.036 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+ | 26 | 26 | South Carolina | 52.319 | | 27 | 27 | USC | 52.004 | | 28 | 28 | Tennessee | 51.199 | | 29 | 29 | Ohio State | 50.833 | | 30 | 30 | Stanford | 48.988 | | 31 | 31 | Wisconsin | 48.422 | | 32 | 32 | Texas | 46.124 | | 33 | 33 | Florida | 46.021 | | 34 | 34 | East Carolina | 45.713 | | 35 | 35 | Virginia | 45.334 | | 36 | 36 | NC State | 45.213 | | 37 | -- | Villanova | 45.109 | | 38 | 37 | Louisville | 42.520 | | 39 | 38 | Utah | 41.459 | | 40 | 39 | Georgia Tech | 41.129 | | 41 | 40 | Kentucky | 40.445 | | 42 | 41 | Minnesota | 40.271 | | 43 | 42 | Syracuse | 40.171 | | 44 | 43 | Marshall | 39.838 | | 45 | 44 | Virginia Tech | 39.627 | | 46 | 45 | Washington | 39.431 | | 47 | 46 | Duke | 38.562 | | 48 | 47 | U. of Miami | 37.579 | | 49 | 48 | Memphis | 36.474 | | 50 | 49 | Penn State | 35.807 | | 51 | 50 | California | 33.214 | | 52 | 51 | Iowa | 33.133 | | 53 | -- | Coastal Caro. | 32.978 | | 54 | 52 | Indiana | 31.905 | | 55 | 53 | Rutgers | 31.811 | | 56 | 54 | Louisiana Tech | 31.399 | | 57 | 55 | Nevada | 31.234 | | 58 | 56 | Northern Ill. | 30.926 | | 59 | 57 | Cincinnati | 30.774 | | 60 | 58 | Arizona State | 30.561 | | 61 | 59 | Illinois | 30.444 | | 62 | 60 | Western Ky. | 30.237 | | 63 | 61 | Colorado State | 30.037 | | 64 | 62 | Pittsburgh | 29.681 | | 65 | 63 | Boise State | 28.634 | | 66 | 64 | Temple | 27.033 | | 67 | 65 | Boston College | 26.860 | | 68 | -- | North Dakota St. | 26.778 | | 69 | 66 | Northwestern | 25.718 | | 70 | 67 | Iowa State | 25.049 | | 71 | 68 | Toledo | 25.000 | | 72 | 69 | Washington St. | 24.992 | | 73 | 70 | FAU | 24.292 | | 74 | -- | Missouri State | 24.181 | | 75 | 71 | Wyoming | 23.679 | | 76 | 72 | Texas Tech | 23.646 | | 77 | 73 | UTSA | 23.544 | | 78 | 74 | Ga. Southern | 23.517 | | 79 | 75 | Navy | 22.278 | | 80 | 76 | Houston | 19.624 | | 81 | 77 | Michigan | 19.358 | | 82 | 78 | Oregon State | 18.821 | | 83 | -- | Illinois State | 18.536 | | 84 | 79 | Utah State | 17.874 | | 85 | 80 | Akron | 17.866 | | 86 | 81 | North Carolina | 17.692 | | 87 | 82 | UCF | 17.213 | | 88 | 83 | Arkansas State | 17.140 | | 89 | 84 | Purdue | 15.030 | | 90 | -- | Indiana State | 15.010 | | 91 | 85 | Air Force | 14.925 | | 92 | 86 | Rice | 14.901 | | 93 | -- | Youngstown St. | 14.254 | | 94 | 87 | North Texas | 14.208 | | 95 | 88 | Colorado | 12.257 | | 96 | 89 | Kansas | 11.930 | | 97 | 90 | Middle Tenn. | 11.869 | | 98 | -- | McNeese State | 11.281 | | 99 | 91 | South Florida | 10.595 | | 100 | -- | Northwestern St. | 10.464 | | 101 | -- | Southern Ill. | 9.721 | | 102 | -- | Fordham | 9.719 | | 103 | 92 | UTEP | 9.581 | | 104 | 93 | San Jose State | 9.304 | | 105 | -- | Eastern Wash. | 9.078 | | 106 | 94 | Fresno State | 8.319 | | 107 | -- | NC A&T | 8.042 | | 108 | 95 | ULM | 6.352 | | 109 | 96 | UAB | 6.298 | | 110 | 97 | Central Mich. | 5.778 | | 111 | 98 | Texas State | 5.489 | | 112 | 99 | Buffalo | 5.383 | | 113 | 100 | Bowling Green | 5.341 | | 114 | -- | New Hampshire | 5.104 | | 115 | -- | UNI | 4.872 | | 116 | 101 | Old Dominion | 4.597 | | 117 | -- | South Dakota St. | 4.204 | | 118 | 102 | Southern Miss | 4.117 | | 119 | 103 | Hawaii | 4.088 | | 120 | 104 | San Diego State | 3.247 | | 121 | -- | Eastern Ky. | 3.092 | | 122 | -- | Southeastern La. | 2.865 | | 123 | 105 | South Alabama | 2.745 | | 124 | 106 | Ohio | 2.643 | | 125 | 107 | Tulane | 1.796 | | 126 | 108 | Vanderbilt | 1.729 | | 127 | 109 | Western Mich. | 0.654 | | 128 | 110 | Army | 0.123 | | 129 | 111 | Wake Forest | 0.005 | | 130 | 112 | Tulsa | -0.359 | | 131 | -- | Chattanooga | -1.225 | | 132 | -- | Southeast Mo. | -1.746 | | 133 | -- | Yale | -1.871 | | 134 | 113 | Ball State | -2.007 | | 135 | 114 | FIU | -2.984 | | 136 | 115 | UL Lafayette | -3.026 | | 137 | -- | Citadel | -3.329 | | 138 | -- | Albany | -3.389 | | 139 | -- | Montana | -3.393 | | 140 | -- | Alcorn State | -4.339 | | 141 | -- | Richmond | -4.849 | | 142 | -- | Samford | -5.316 | | 143 | -- | James Madison | -5.828 | | 144 | -- | Duquesne | -6.046 | | 145 | -- | Montana State | -7.079 | | 146 | 116 | Connecticut | -8.247 | | 147 | -- | Alabama State | -8.317 | | 148 | -- | Tennessee State | -8.913 | | 149 | -- | William & Mary | -9.206 | | 150 | -- | Jacksonville St. | -10.047 | | 151 | -- | Central Ark. | -11.416 | | 152 | -- | Harvard | -11.572 | | 153 | -- | Elon | -11.777 | | 154 | -- | SC State | -11.978 | | 155 | 117 | SMU | -13.533 | | 156 | -- | Stephen F. Austin | -14.180 | | 157 | 118 | New Mexico | -14.228 | | 158 | -- | South Dakota | -14.516 | | 159 | 119 | Miami U. | -14.525 | | 160 | -- | Eastern Ill. | -15.039 | | 161 | -- | Charleston So. | -15.048 | | 162 | 120 | Appalachian St. | -15.282 | | 163 | -- | Jacksonville | -15.418 | | 164 | -- | Liberty | -15.469 | | 165 | 121 | New Mexico St. | -16.549 | | 166 | -- | Presbyterian | -17.301 | | 167 | -- | Charlotte | -17.662 | | 168 | -- | Monmouth | -17.866 | | 169 | 122 | Georgia State | -18.483 | | 170 | -- | Lamar | -18.708 | | 171 | -- | Western Caro. | -19.331 | | 172 | -- | Bethune-Cookman | -19.491 | | 173 | -- | Idaho State | -19.859 | | 174 | 123 | Massachusetts | -20.615 | | 175 | -- | Sam Houston St. | -21.769 | | 176 | -- | Western Ill. | -22.077 | | 177 | -- | Delaware | -22.483 | | 178 | 124 | UNLV | -22.905 | | 179 | -- | Northern Ariz. | -23.618 | | 180 | -- | UC Davis | -23.633 | | 181 | -- | Bryant | -23.948 | | 182 | -- | Sacramento St. | -24.167 | | 183 | -- | Bucknell | -24.324 | | 184 | 125 | Kent State | -24.375 | | 185 | -- | Abilene Christian | -24.712 | | 186 | -- | Maine | -24.818 | | 187 | -- | Penn | -25.668 | | 188 | -- | UT Martin | -26.654 | | 189 | -- | Dartmouth | -26.884 | | 190 | -- | Saint Francis | -27.816 | | 191 | -- | Holy Cross | -28.701 | | 192 | 126 | Troy | -28.761 | | 193 | 127 | Eastern Mich. | -29.195 | | 194 | -- | Southern Utah | -30.424 | | 195 | -- | Lafayette | -31.437 | | 196 | -- | Wofford | -31.478 | | 197 | -- | Furman | -31.738 | | 198 | -- | Sacred Heart | -32.137 | | 199 | -- | Texas Southern | -32.483 | | 200 | 128 | Idaho | -32.665 | | 201 | -- | Towson | -32.681 | | 202 | -- | Dayton | -33.955 | | 203 | -- | North Dakota | -34.605 | | 204 | -- | Gardner-Webb | -34.832 | | 205 | -- | Colgate | -35.145 | | 206 | -- | Murray State | -35.376 | | 207 | -- | CCSU | -35.871 | | 208 | -- | Cal Poly | -36.519 | | 209 | -- | Howard | -36.861 | | 210 | -- | Lehigh | -36.879 | | 211 | -- | Mercer | -37.235 | | 212 | -- | Jackson State | -38.133 | | 213 | -- | Weber State | -39.700 | | 214 | -- | Stony Brook | -39.928 | | 215 | -- | Grambling State | -40.617 | | 216 | -- | Tennessee Tech | -41.416 | | 217 | -- | Southern | -41.576 | | 218 | -- | NC Central | -41.816 | | 219 | -- | Florida A&M | -42.136 | | 220 | -- | Morgan State | -43.376 | | 221 | -- | Norfolk State | -43.506 | | 222 | -- | Butler | -43.593 | | 223 | -- | Alabama A&M | -45.565 | | 224 | -- | San Diego | -46.302 | | 225 | -- | Hampton | -46.817 | | 226 | -- | Wagner | -46.914 | | 227 | -- | Portland State | -47.085 | | 228 | -- | Northern Colo. | -47.318 | | 229 | -- | Rhode Island | -51.690 | | 230 | -- | Princeton | -52.004 | | 231 | -- | UAPB | -52.395 | | 232 | -- | VMI | -55.256 | | 233 | -- | Columbia | -57.349 | | 234 | -- | Morehead State | -58.017 | | 235 | -- | Delaware State | -59.654 | | 236 | -- | Prairie View | -60.363 | | 237 | -- | Georgetown | -61.342 | | 238 | -- | Miss. Valley St. | -62.066 | | 239 | -- | Austin Peay | -63.327 | | 240 | -- | Cornell | -65.749 | | 241 | -- | Nicholls State | -66.158 | | 242 | -- | Houston Baptist | -66.817 | | 243 | -- | Brown | -69.470 | | 244 | -- | Robert Morris | -69.490 | | 245 | -- | Incarnate Word | -69.897 | | 246 | -- | Campbell | -71.093 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+ | -- | -- | Non-Division I | -77.605 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+ | 247 | -- | Drake | -79.878 | | 248 | -- | Stetson | -81.012 | | 249 | -- | Davidson | -86.706 | | 250 | -- | Marist | -87.210 | | 251 | -- | Valparaiso | -88.352 | | 252 | -- | Savannah State | -89.232 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+
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Hayden Matrix Rankings, Week Six The weekend of shakeups has had some interesting effects on the poll, as you might expect. Auburn is apparently head and shoulders over everyone else—in fairness, three of the five teams they've beaten are also in the top 25, so this isn't really that surprising. More unexpected are the three unbeaten power teams outside the top ten (FSU at #13, Arizona at #20, and GT outside of the top 25 at #29) and how little some teams moved after losing this weekend (especially Oklahoma and Alabama, who are still in the top six for now). I've also added columns for the two separate components of the ranking—one based on pure wins and losses, and one accounting for margin of victory. pre:+------+-----+-------------------+---------+---------+---------+ | Rank | FBS | Team | Wins | Pts | Rating | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+---------+---------+ | 1 | 1 | Auburn | 35.806 | 55.238 | 91.044 | | 2 | 2 | Ole Miss | 33.283 | 45.679 | 78.962 | | 3 | 3 | TCU | 30.838 | 45.382 | 76.221 | | 4 | 4 | Mississippi St. | 29.939 | 43.712 | 73.651 | | 5 | 5 | Oklahoma | 25.709 | 47.879 | 73.589 | | 6 | 6 | Alabama | 27.039 | 43.008 | 70.047 | | 7 | 7 | Baylor | 23.832 | 45.635 | 69.467 | | 8 | 8 | Notre Dame | 28.844 | 37.977 | 66.821 | | 9 | 9 | UCLA | 29.034 | 37.423 | 66.456 | | 10 | 10 | Texas A&M | 21.103 | 42.463 | 63.566 | | 11 | 11 | Georgia | 19.143 | 42.899 | 62.042 | | 12 | 12 | Clemson | 22.834 | 38.587 | 61.421 | | 13 | 13 | Florida State | 27.593 | 33.426 | 61.019 | | 14 | 14 | Oregon | 27.422 | 31.960 | 59.382 | | 15 | 15 | Ohio State | 19.307 | 39.694 | 59.002 | | 16 | 16 | Michigan State | 25.423 | 33.139 | 58.562 | | 17 | 17 | Nebraska | 22.664 | 34.044 | 56.708 | | 18 | 18 | Arkansas | 20.425 | 35.385 | 55.811 | | 19 | 19 | Kansas State | 21.914 | 33.443 | 55.357 | | 20 | 20 | Arizona | 30.178 | 24.484 | 54.662 | | 21 | 21 | LSU | 17.612 | 36.108 | 53.721 | | 22 | 22 | Utah | 21.247 | 31.814 | 53.062 | | 23 | 23 | Florida | 19.069 | 32.041 | 51.110 | | 24 | 24 | Missouri | 21.857 | 28.595 | 50.453 | | 25 | 25 | Oklahoma State | 22.309 | 27.537 | 49.846 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+---------+---------+ | 26 | 26 | Louisville | 18.204 | 31.435 | 49.639 | | 27 | 27 | Tennessee | 13.816 | 34.635 | 48.452 | | 28 | 28 | Kentucky | 20.108 | 27.541 | 47.650 | | 29 | 29 | Georgia Tech | 26.300 | 21.062 | 47.363 | | 30 | 30 | Memphis | 16.107 | 31.108 | 47.214 | | 31 | 31 | BYU | 19.410 | 27.221 | 46.631 | | 32 | 32 | West Virginia | 15.476 | 30.938 | 46.414 | | 33 | 33 | Virginia Tech | 18.318 | 27.163 | 45.482 | | 34 | 34 | USC | 16.594 | 28.435 | 45.029 | | 35 | 35 | Virginia | 16.958 | 27.645 | 44.603 | | 36 | 36 | Minnesota | 19.640 | 24.951 | 44.592 | | 37 | 37 | Stanford | 14.109 | 30.339 | 44.449 | | 38 | 38 | South Carolina | 16.233 | 28.166 | 44.398 | | 39 | 39 | Maryland | 16.851 | 26.541 | 43.392 | | 40 | 40 | East Carolina | 16.791 | 25.025 | 41.815 | | 41 | 41 | Marshall | 14.757 | 26.614 | 41.371 | | 42 | 42 | Arizona State | 18.945 | 21.064 | 40.008 | | 43 | 43 | Wisconsin | 9.911 | 28.818 | 38.728 | | 44 | 44 | California | 17.435 | 21.049 | 38.483 | | 45 | 45 | Louisiana Tech | 11.931 | 25.843 | 37.775 | | 46 | 46 | Penn State | 18.100 | 19.333 | 37.432 | | 47 | 47 | Boise State | 19.030 | 17.421 | 36.451 | | 48 | 48 | Texas | 11.074 | 24.483 | 35.557 | | 49 | 49 | Northwestern | 14.319 | 21.137 | 35.455 | | 50 | 50 | Washington | 15.597 | 19.345 | 34.942 | | 51 | 51 | NC State | 17.547 | 17.085 | 34.632 | | 52 | 52 | Utah State | 16.668 | 17.372 | 34.041 | | 53 | 53 | Indiana | 14.229 | 19.446 | 33.674 | | 54 | 54 | Duke | 9.968 | 22.703 | 32.671 | | 55 | 55 | Iowa | 13.839 | 18.650 | 32.488 | | 56 | -- | Illinois State | 8.225 | 24.024 | 32.249 | | 57 | -- | Villanova | 13.362 | 17.982 | 31.343 | | 58 | 56 | Rutgers | 15.281 | 15.541 | 30.822 | | 59 | 57 | U. of Miami | 9.750 | 20.422 | 30.171 | | 60 | 58 | Colorado State | 14.873 | 15.170 | 30.043 | | 61 | 59 | Syracuse | 8.545 | 21.124 | 29.669 | | 62 | 60 | Pittsburgh | 6.899 | 21.969 | 28.868 | | 63 | 61 | Northern Ill. | 16.116 | 11.727 | 27.842 | | 64 | 62 | Nevada | 13.360 | 13.806 | 27.166 | | 65 | 63 | Boston College | 7.098 | 18.579 | 25.677 | | 66 | 64 | Temple | 2.807 | 22.378 | 25.185 | | 67 | 65 | Washington St. | 7.305 | 17.858 | 25.163 | | 68 | 66 | Oregon State | 14.709 | 9.987 | 24.696 | | 69 | 67 | Purdue | 11.019 | 13.642 | 24.660 | | 70 | 68 | Cincinnati | 8.257 | 16.269 | 24.525 | | 71 | 69 | Arkansas State | 8.772 | 14.986 | 23.757 | | 72 | 70 | Ga. Southern | 5.857 | 17.766 | 23.623 | | 73 | -- | North Dakota St. | 11.192 | 12.041 | 23.234 | | 74 | 71 | UCF | 9.996 | 12.418 | 22.414 | | 75 | 72 | Toledo | 9.350 | 12.873 | 22.223 | | 76 | 73 | Iowa State | 6.450 | 15.661 | 22.111 | | 77 | 74 | Air Force | 13.876 | 7.960 | 21.837 | | 78 | 75 | Michigan | 3.191 | 17.148 | 20.340 | | 79 | 76 | Western Ky. | 5.473 | 14.106 | 19.579 | | 80 | 77 | Wyoming | 18.586 | -0.074 | 18.512 | | 81 | 78 | UAB | 4.844 | 13.108 | 17.953 | | 82 | 79 | Illinois | 9.590 | 8.063 | 17.653 | | 83 | 80 | Akron | 6.810 | 10.446 | 17.256 | | 84 | -- | Indiana State | 7.760 | 9.437 | 17.197 | | 85 | -- | Southern Ill. | 6.757 | 10.178 | 16.935 | | 86 | 81 | Texas Tech | 8.907 | 7.950 | 16.858 | | 87 | 82 | Rice | 5.959 | 10.634 | 16.593 | | 88 | 83 | North Carolina | 6.612 | 9.379 | 15.991 | | 89 | 84 | Middle Tenn. | 5.992 | 9.717 | 15.709 | | 90 | 85 | Navy | 1.465 | 13.785 | 15.249 | | 91 | -- | Coastal Caro. | 7.946 | 6.490 | 14.437 | | 92 | -- | Youngstown St. | 10.188 | 4.210 | 14.398 | | 93 | -- | Missouri State | 8.026 | 6.219 | 14.245 | | 94 | 86 | South Alabama | 2.576 | 10.618 | 13.193 | | 95 | 87 | San Jose State | 5.754 | 7.410 | 13.163 | | 96 | 88 | Fresno State | 7.830 | 5.208 | 13.039 | | 97 | 89 | Central Mich. | 6.024 | 6.683 | 12.707 | | 98 | 90 | Colorado | 3.870 | 8.096 | 11.966 | | 99 | 91 | FIU | 3.067 | 8.708 | 11.775 | | 100 | -- | Eastern Wash. | 9.338 | 2.022 | 11.359 | | 101 | 92 | Western Mich. | 1.060 | 9.298 | 10.357 | | 102 | -- | New Hampshire | 6.750 | 3.270 | 10.020 | | 103 | 93 | Kansas | 4.452 | 5.339 | 9.791 | | 104 | 94 | North Texas | -1.078 | 10.796 | 9.718 | | 105 | -- | Chattanooga | 2.301 | 6.233 | 8.534 | | 106 | -- | McNeese State | -2.086 | 10.313 | 8.226 | | 107 | -- | Southeastern La. | 1.015 | 7.016 | 8.031 | | 108 | 95 | Houston | -2.266 | 10.080 | 7.814 | | 109 | 96 | Wake Forest | 2.745 | 3.586 | 6.330 | | 110 | 97 | UTSA | -0.269 | 6.431 | 6.162 | | 111 | 98 | Vanderbilt | -1.605 | 7.470 | 5.864 | | 112 | 99 | UL Lafayette | 4.451 | 1.389 | 5.840 | | 113 | 100 | Bowling Green | 5.474 | -0.141 | 5.333 | | 114 | 101 | Army | 1.352 | 3.777 | 5.129 | | 115 | -- | Northwestern St. | 2.597 | 1.918 | 4.516 | | 116 | 102 | FAU | 4.363 | 0.119 | 4.482 | | 117 | 103 | ULM | 2.515 | 1.601 | 4.116 | | 118 | -- | UNI | -7.885 | 11.851 | 3.966 | | 119 | 104 | UTEP | 4.101 | -0.160 | 3.941 | | 120 | 105 | New Mexico | 4.908 | -1.067 | 3.841 | | 121 | 106 | Ohio | 0.475 | 2.890 | 3.365 | | 122 | 107 | South Florida | 2.115 | 1.228 | 3.343 | | 123 | -- | Alcorn State | -1.815 | 4.300 | 2.485 | | 124 | 108 | Southern Miss | 2.164 | 0.263 | 2.427 | | 125 | -- | Southeast Mo. | -0.003 | 1.887 | 1.884 | | 126 | 109 | Tulane | 1.531 | -0.216 | 1.314 | | 127 | -- | Fordham | -0.646 | 1.900 | 1.254 | | 128 | 110 | Buffalo | -0.375 | 1.454 | 1.079 | | 129 | 111 | Hawaii | -5.718 | 6.183 | 0.465 | | 130 | -- | Eastern Ky. | 1.613 | -1.213 | 0.401 | | 131 | 112 | Old Dominion | 3.680 | -3.717 | -0.037 | | 132 | -- | Yale | -1.592 | 1.380 | -0.212 | | 133 | -- | Jacksonville St. | 2.573 | -3.214 | -0.642 | | 134 | -- | Samford | -1.131 | 0.039 | -1.093 | | 135 | -- | South Dakota St. | -1.359 | 0.075 | -1.285 | | 136 | 113 | San Diego State | -2.685 | 0.167 | -2.518 | | 137 | -- | Montana State | 1.109 | -4.101 | -2.992 | | 138 | 114 | Texas State | -7.399 | 4.028 | -3.371 | | 139 | 115 | Ball State | -8.127 | 3.125 | -5.001 | | 140 | -- | SC State | 2.717 | -7.855 | -5.138 | | 141 | -- | Montana | 1.567 | -7.549 | -5.982 | | 142 | -- | Richmond | -3.166 | -2.890 | -6.056 | | 143 | -- | William & Mary | -0.718 | -5.477 | -6.196 | | 144 | -- | Eastern Ill. | -8.410 | 2.099 | -6.312 | | 145 | -- | NC A&T | -4.331 | -3.005 | -7.336 | | 146 | -- | Harvard | -1.130 | -6.284 | -7.414 | | 147 | -- | Central Ark. | -3.933 | -4.453 | -8.387 | | 148 | -- | James Madison | 0.879 | -10.186 | -9.307 | | 149 | 116 | Connecticut | -6.220 | -3.478 | -9.697 | | 150 | 117 | SMU | -1.982 | -8.340 | -10.322 | | 151 | 118 | Tulsa | -4.352 | -6.404 | -10.756 | | 152 | -- | Idaho State | -1.960 | -9.566 | -11.526 | | 153 | -- | Liberty | -1.917 | -10.048 | -11.965 | | 154 | 119 | Miami U. | -11.736 | -0.601 | -12.337 | | 155 | 120 | New Mexico St. | -6.875 | -5.969 | -12.844 | | 156 | -- | Presbyterian | 2.642 | -15.777 | -13.135 | | 157 | 121 | Kent State | -9.193 | -4.285 | -13.478 | | 158 | -- | Bryant | 1.453 | -14.956 | -13.503 | | 159 | -- | Duquesne | -4.447 | -9.399 | -13.846 | | 160 | -- | Citadel | -8.585 | -5.666 | -14.251 | | 161 | -- | Bethune-Cookman | 2.295 | -17.338 | -15.042 | | 162 | -- | Western Ill. | -10.246 | -6.242 | -16.489 | | 163 | -- | Lamar | -4.794 | -11.777 | -16.572 | | 164 | -- | Stephen F. Austin | -6.533 | -10.476 | -17.009 | | 165 | 122 | Georgia State | -10.172 | -6.879 | -17.051 | | 166 | 123 | Appalachian St. | -13.571 | -3.792 | -17.363 | | 167 | -- | Alabama State | -5.060 | -12.396 | -17.456 | | 168 | -- | Tennessee State | -10.335 | -7.643 | -17.978 | | 169 | -- | Monmouth | -7.089 | -10.927 | -18.017 | | 170 | -- | Charleston So. | -2.973 | -15.328 | -18.300 | | 171 | -- | Albany | -5.243 | -13.655 | -18.899 | | 172 | -- | Wofford | -5.349 | -13.823 | -19.173 | | 173 | -- | Dartmouth | -2.399 | -17.099 | -19.498 | | 174 | -- | Furman | -5.778 | -14.164 | -19.942 | | 175 | -- | Sacramento St. | -9.056 | -11.332 | -20.388 | | 176 | 124 | Massachusetts | -16.746 | -3.877 | -20.623 | | 177 | -- | Sam Houston St. | -6.180 | -14.751 | -20.931 | | 178 | -- | Maine | -6.408 | -14.804 | -21.212 | | 179 | -- | Jacksonville | -0.159 | -21.256 | -21.415 | | 180 | -- | Western Caro. | -7.235 | -14.826 | -22.061 | | 181 | -- | South Dakota | -5.219 | -17.607 | -22.826 | | 182 | -- | Sacred Heart | -4.592 | -19.490 | -24.081 | | 183 | -- | Charlotte | -11.153 | -13.800 | -24.953 | | 184 | 125 | UNLV | -8.451 | -16.827 | -25.278 | | 185 | -- | Gardner-Webb | -9.306 | -16.096 | -25.403 | | 186 | -- | Bucknell | -3.907 | -21.583 | -25.490 | | 187 | -- | UT Martin | -14.746 | -11.860 | -26.606 | | 188 | 126 | Idaho | -20.434 | -6.313 | -26.747 | | 189 | 127 | Eastern Mich. | -4.967 | -22.021 | -26.988 | | 190 | -- | Elon | -10.332 | -16.668 | -27.000 | | 191 | -- | Delaware | -6.376 | -21.216 | -27.593 | | 192 | 128 | Troy | -16.400 | -11.362 | -27.762 | | 193 | -- | Abilene Christian | -17.074 | -11.120 | -28.193 | | 194 | -- | Saint Francis | -13.059 | -15.898 | -28.957 | | 195 | -- | Murray State | -12.955 | -16.876 | -29.831 | | 196 | -- | Lafayette | -14.912 | -15.035 | -29.947 | | 197 | -- | Cal Poly | -13.693 | -16.394 | -30.087 | | 198 | -- | Colgate | -12.097 | -18.110 | -30.207 | | 199 | -- | UC Davis | -12.119 | -18.839 | -30.958 | | 200 | -- | Stony Brook | -13.623 | -17.636 | -31.259 | | 201 | -- | Mercer | -11.152 | -20.922 | -32.073 | | 202 | -- | North Dakota | -11.308 | -21.120 | -32.428 | | 203 | -- | Northern Ariz. | -13.846 | -18.915 | -32.761 | | 204 | -- | Southern Utah | -15.747 | -17.143 | -32.890 | | 205 | -- | Texas Southern | -7.189 | -25.767 | -32.956 | | 206 | -- | Portland State | -10.359 | -24.019 | -34.378 | | 207 | -- | Lehigh | -20.543 | -13.866 | -34.408 | | 208 | -- | Southern | -11.538 | -23.121 | -34.659 | | 209 | -- | Holy Cross | -16.034 | -20.434 | -36.468 | | 210 | -- | Princeton | -15.814 | -21.040 | -36.854 | | 211 | -- | Weber State | -20.519 | -16.569 | -37.088 | | 212 | -- | Grambling State | -11.738 | -25.841 | -37.578 | | 213 | -- | Wagner | -18.203 | -20.043 | -38.246 | | 214 | -- | Towson | -16.950 | -22.076 | -39.025 | | 215 | -- | NC Central | -16.066 | -23.245 | -39.310 | | 216 | -- | Tennessee Tech | -18.338 | -21.188 | -39.526 | | 217 | -- | Northern Colo. | -16.687 | -23.826 | -40.514 | | 218 | -- | San Diego | -8.504 | -32.478 | -40.982 | | 219 | -- | Morgan State | -18.979 | -22.013 | -40.991 | | 220 | -- | Penn | -16.678 | -25.125 | -41.803 | | 221 | -- | CCSU | -17.549 | -24.443 | -41.991 | | 222 | -- | Howard | -21.020 | -21.664 | -42.684 | | 223 | -- | Norfolk State | -16.725 | -26.549 | -43.274 | | 224 | -- | Hampton | -17.208 | -27.330 | -44.538 | | 225 | -- | Butler | -10.009 | -34.932 | -44.941 | | 226 | -- | Dayton | -17.519 | -28.024 | -45.543 | | 227 | -- | Prairie View | -23.485 | -24.634 | -48.119 | | 228 | -- | Alabama A&M | -18.137 | -30.624 | -48.761 | | 229 | -- | Jackson State | -24.038 | -26.753 | -50.790 | | 230 | -- | Austin Peay | -16.312 | -34.550 | -50.862 | | 231 | -- | VMI | -20.206 | -31.792 | -51.998 | | 232 | -- | Brown | -24.110 | -29.163 | -53.273 | | 233 | -- | Georgetown | -24.084 | -31.255 | -55.338 | | 234 | -- | Florida A&M | -27.410 | -29.699 | -57.109 | | 235 | -- | Miss. Valley St. | -22.135 | -36.529 | -58.664 | | 236 | -- | Delaware State | -22.970 | -36.264 | -59.235 | | 237 | -- | Cornell | -26.145 | -34.771 | -60.916 | | 238 | -- | UAPB | -23.262 | -37.990 | -61.252 | | 239 | -- | Incarnate Word | -22.686 | -39.094 | -61.780 | | 240 | -- | Rhode Island | -26.837 | -34.949 | -61.787 | | 241 | -- | Nicholls State | -20.365 | -41.451 | -61.816 | | 242 | -- | Morehead State | -20.412 | -42.989 | -63.400 | | 243 | -- | Campbell | -20.806 | -45.754 | -66.560 | | 244 | -- | Robert Morris | -30.122 | -40.064 | -70.186 | | 245 | -- | Drake | -27.456 | -42.764 | -70.221 | | 246 | -- | Houston Baptist | -34.544 | -37.691 | -72.235 | | 247 | -- | Marist | -30.883 | -42.905 | -73.789 | | 248 | -- | Columbia | -27.514 | -47.265 | -74.779 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+---------+---------+ | -- | -- | Non-Division I | -27.717 | -47.709 | -75.426 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+---------+---------+ | 249 | -- | Davidson | -31.704 | -44.377 | -76.081 | | 250 | -- | Stetson | -24.918 | -52.196 | -77.114 | | 251 | -- | Savannah State | -31.392 | -51.408 | -82.800 | | 252 | -- | Valparaiso | -35.642 | -55.864 | -91.505 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+---------+---------+
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Wait, even the fallback crappy option for autoscraping schedule and stats is gone? Jesus christ. ![]() I'm still waffling on if I want to just give up and re-implement my... jesus christ, 9 year old... yards-per-play based Moon Poll rather than doing the fanciness I did that one last season we had all of the stats in easily grabbable form.
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I wonder if NCAA is cracking down on stats websites or something? If so that's kind of sleazy. They're a nonprofit overseeing sports at institutions which are largely taxpayer-funded. I've written a scraper that pulls in scores (and can provide CSVs if needed), but stats beyond that would not be trivial. That said, in weeks like this, college football is the best. Even when your teams get plastered. code:
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Captain von Trapp posted:I wonder if NCAA is cracking down on stats websites or something? If so that's kind of sleazy. They're a nonprofit overseeing sports at institutions which are largely taxpayer-funded. I have no idea why the heck they would be doing this, since it's not like the information is hard to come by or anything. It's just harder to get into a nice, easily parsed format than it was two years ago. ![]()
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Despite Katy Perry's ascension as a chaos football fertility goddess my poll's really not that crazy; a lot of the bottom and middle exchanged positions. Also Marshall. EDIT 10/13 - Posted corrected poll. Some data from Ohio University was being entered as Ohio State, plus my SOS calculations had USC playing Florida State, not Fresno State. Oopsie. I'll have to correct my previous polls as well. pre:LW Rank Team Record Score Conferences - 2 1 Auburn 5-0 2.4029 1. SEC 3 2 Ole Miss 5-0 2.3222 2. Pac 12 4 3 Mississippi State 5-0 2.0091 3. Big 10 7 4 Notre Dame 5-0 1.8920 4. ACC 1 5 Alabama 4-1 1.6474 5. Big 12 8 6 Baylor 5-0 1.6463 6. MWC 10 7 TCU 4-0 1.6101 7. Conf USA 15 8 Marshall 5-0 1.5358 8. American 6 9 Oklahoma 4-1 1.4733 9. MAC 20 10 Arizona 5-0 1.4313 10. Sun Belt 21 11 Michigan State 4-1 1.4235 19 12 Louisville 5-1 1.3926 25 13 Florida State 5-0 1.3686 Floaters - 9 14 Texas A&M 5-1 1.2932 1. +33 - Akron 12 15 Oregon 4-1 1.2529 2. +28 - Clemson 14 16 Nebraska 5-1 1.2402 3. +24 - Louisiana Tech 5 17 LSU 4-2 1.2291 4. +23 - Central Mich, South Alabama 22 18 Georgia 4-1 1.2041 13 19 Stanford 3-2 1.1799 NR 20 Ohio State 4-1 1.1696 NR 21 Georgia Tech 5-0 1.1319 Sinkers - 23 22 Penn State 4-1 1.0813 4. -27 - NC State, Texas, Maryland NR 23 Temple 3-1 1.0638 3. -24 - BYU 16 24 UCLA 4-1 1.0550 2. -22 - Pittsburgh 24 25 Duke 4-1 1.0462 1. -20 - Appalachian State pre:Rank Team Record Final Score 26 Florida 3-1 1.0445 27 East Carolina 4-1 1.0346 28 Kansas State 4-1 0.9730 29 Clemson 3-2 0.9729 30 Missouri 4-1 0.9470 31 Utah 4-1 0.9417 32 Georgia Southern 4-2 0.9246 33 Memphis 3-2 0.9234 34 Kentucky 4-1 0.9221 35 BYU 4-1 0.9190 36 USC 3-2 0.8864 37 Wisconsin 3-2 0.8687 38 Virginia Tech 4-2 0.8547 39 Virginia 4-2 0.8122 40 Arizona State 4-1 0.7907 41 Arkansas 3-2 0.7624 42 Air Force 4-1 0.7469 43 Washington 4-1 0.7373 44 Minnesota 4-1 0.7209 45 Rutgers 5-1 0.6978 46 Oklahoma State 4-1 0.6943 47 Boise State 4-2 0.6805 48 Northern Illinois 4-1 0.6711 49 Colorado State 4-1 0.6626 50 Northwestern 3-2 0.6552 51 Oregon State 4-1 0.6377 52 Iowa 4-1 0.6121 53 California 4-1 0.6092 54 NC State 4-2 0.5893 55 Akron 3-2 0.5818 56 Boston College 3-2 0.5587 57 Toledo 4-2 0.5471 58 West Virginia 3-2 0.5298 59 Middle Tennessee 4-2 0.4956 60 Pittsburgh 3-3 0.4777 61 Indiana 3-2 0.4620 62 Maryland 4-2 0.4519 63 South Alabama 3-2 0.4403 64 Utah State 3-2 0.4012 65 Nevada 3-2 0.3135 66 UAB 3-2 0.3030 67 Texas State 2-2 0.2699 68 Arkansas State 3-2 0.2510 69 Bowling Green 4-2 0.2255 70 Miami (FL) 3-3 0.2188 71 Houston 2-3 0.1948 72 Louisiana-Monroe 3-2 0.1889 73 Florida International 3-3 0.1868 74 Louisiana Tech 3-3 0.1366 75 UCF 2-2 0.1321 76 Buffalo 3-3 0.0900 77 Western Kentucky 2-3 0.0814 78 Tennessee 2-3 0.0711 79 South Carolina 3-3 0.0512 80 Western Michigan 2-3 0.0460 81 Syracuse 2-3 0.0244 82 North Texas 2-3 0.0159 83 Central Michigan 3-3 0.0083 84 Wyoming 3-2 0.0003 85 Old Dominion 3-3 -0.0054 86 Purdue 3-3 -0.0169 87 San Diego State 2-3 -0.0253 88 Texas 2-3 -0.0304 89 Cincinnati 2-2 -0.0359 90 Ohio U 3-3 -0.0405 91 Fresno State 3-3 -0.0454 92 Rice 2-3 -0.0698 93 San Jose State 2-3 -0.0790 94 Illinois 3-3 -0.1056 95 Washington State 2-4 -0.1138 96 North Carolina 2-3 -0.1255 97 Colorado 2-4 -0.1538 98 South Florida 2-3 -0.1538 99 UTEP 2-3 -0.1577 100 Navy 2-4 -0.1733 101 Kansas 2-3 -0.1805 102 New Mexico 2-3 -0.1830 103 Texas Tech 2-3 -0.2061 104 Army 2-3 -0.2073 105 Florida Atlantic 2-3 -0.2073 106 Michigan 2-4 -0.2256 107 Southern Miss 2-4 -0.2320 108 Louisiana-Lafayette 2-3 -0.2871 109 UTSA 1-4 -0.2921 110 Wake Forest 2-4 -0.3302 111 Tulsa 1-3 -0.3353 112 New Mexico State 2-4 -0.3390 113 Hawaii 1-4 -0.3790 114 Vanderbilt 1-5 -0.3850 115 Tulane 1-4 -0.3864 116 Iowa State 1-4 -0.4025 117 Appalachian State 1-4 -0.4103 118 Connecticut 1-4 -0.4809 pre:Rank Team Record Final Score 119 Georgia State 1-4 -0.5105 120 Kent State 0-5 -0.5452 121 Ball State 1-4 -0.5488 122 Idaho 0-5 -0.5962 123 Troy 0-5 -0.6928 124 Eastern Michigan 1-4 -0.7002 125 Miami (OH) 1-5 -0.7206 126 UNLV 1-5 -0.7419 127 Massachusetts 0-6 -0.8640 128 SMU 0-5 -0.9659 dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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Hayden Matrix Rankings, Week Seven Mississippi State is ranked #1, which is not something I think I ever thought would happen, like... ever. Despite losing to MSU by 15, Auburn is still holding onto the #2 spot and is actually less than a full rating point behind #1—probably due to their ridiculously high rating before this week. Ole Miss gained rating points by beating A&M, but the Bulldogs passed them up, so they slide back to #3. I have no idea what Georgia is doing at #4 above Baylor, Notre Dame and FSU. Apparently this formula really, really likes the SEC this year—even Kentucky has slipped into the 25 spot. pre:+------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | Rank | FBS | Team | Wins | Rk | Pts | Rk | Rating | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | 1 | 1 | Mississippi St. | 34.688 | 1 | 48.434 | 2 | 83.122 | | 2 | 2 | Auburn | 31.597 | 3 | 51.135 | 1 | 82.732 | | 3 | 3 | Ole Miss | 34.141 | 2 | 45.588 | 4 | 79.730 | | 4 | 4 | Georgia | 26.012 | 9 | 46.952 | 3 | 72.964 | | 5 | 5 | Baylor | 27.297 | 6 | 44.626 | 5 | 71.922 | | 6 | 6 | Oklahoma | 25.923 | 11 | 44.239 | 6 | 70.162 | | 7 | 7 | Alabama | 28.473 | 5 | 41.479 | 8 | 69.953 | | 8 | 8 | TCU | 25.958 | 10 | 43.235 | 7 | 69.192 | | 9 | 9 | Notre Dame | 30.326 | 4 | 34.755 | 15 | 65.081 | | 10 | 10 | Clemson | 24.513 | 14 | 38.653 | 10 | 63.165 | | 11 | 11 | Texas A&M | 20.685 | 23 | 41.250 | 9 | 61.936 | | 12 | 12 | Oregon | 26.773 | 7 | 34.743 | 16 | 61.516 | | 13 | 13 | Florida State | 26.608 | 8 | 33.370 | 21 | 59.978 | | 14 | 14 | Michigan State | 25.368 | 12 | 33.754 | 18 | 59.122 | | 15 | 15 | LSU | 21.491 | 20 | 36.695 | 13 | 58.187 | | 16 | 16 | UCLA | 22.917 | 16 | 33.585 | 19 | 56.502 | | 17 | 17 | Kansas State | 21.657 | 19 | 33.435 | 20 | 55.092 | | 18 | 18 | Nebraska | 21.227 | 21 | 33.283 | 22 | 54.510 | | 19 | 19 | Tennessee | 16.788 | 42 | 37.234 | 11 | 54.022 | | 20 | 20 | Ohio State | 15.991 | 43 | 36.789 | 12 | 52.780 | | 21 | 21 | Florida | 17.337 | 39 | 33.801 | 17 | 51.138 | | 22 | 22 | USC | 23.379 | 15 | 27.730 | 30 | 51.109 | | 23 | 23 | Utah | 19.959 | 26 | 30.506 | 24 | 50.465 | | 24 | 24 | Arkansas | 15.239 | 49 | 35.209 | 14 | 50.449 | | 25 | 25 | Kentucky | 21.872 | 18 | 28.487 | 27 | 50.360 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | 26 | 26 | Arizona | 24.938 | 13 | 25.157 | 40 | 50.095 | | 27 | 27 | Oklahoma State | 22.545 | 17 | 26.218 | 36 | 48.763 | | 28 | 28 | Louisville | 15.734 | 44 | 32.265 | 23 | 47.999 | | 29 | 29 | Stanford | 17.303 | 40 | 29.333 | 25 | 46.636 | | 30 | 30 | South Carolina | 18.552 | 33 | 27.955 | 29 | 46.507 | | 31 | 31 | BYU | 18.928 | 31 | 26.867 | 31 | 45.794 | | 32 | 32 | Missouri | 19.309 | 28 | 26.279 | 34 | 45.588 | | 33 | 33 | Minnesota | 21.145 | 22 | 23.976 | 43 | 45.121 | | 34 | 34 | West Virginia | 17.520 | 37 | 26.633 | 33 | 44.153 | | 35 | 35 | Marshall | 15.586 | 46 | 28.096 | 28 | 43.682 | | 36 | 36 | Virginia Tech | 17.175 | 41 | 26.222 | 35 | 43.397 | | 37 | 37 | Washington | 20.150 | 25 | 22.740 | 47 | 42.890 | | 38 | 38 | Wisconsin | 14.053 | 51 | 28.577 | 26 | 42.630 | | 39 | 39 | East Carolina | 18.951 | 30 | 23.534 | 44 | 42.485 | | 40 | 40 | Duke | 17.346 | 38 | 25.008 | 41 | 42.354 | | 41 | 41 | Virginia | 14.930 | 50 | 26.799 | 32 | 41.729 | | 42 | 42 | Iowa | 17.888 | 36 | 23.335 | 45 | 41.222 | | 43 | 43 | Georgia Tech | 20.583 | 24 | 20.637 | 50 | 41.219 | | 44 | 44 | Maryland | 15.350 | 47 | 25.487 | 38 | 40.838 | | 45 | 45 | Utah State | 19.332 | 27 | 20.017 | 53 | 39.349 | | 46 | 46 | Arizona State | 18.579 | 32 | 19.557 | 56 | 38.136 | | 47 | 47 | Texas | 9.319 | 70 | 25.519 | 37 | 34.837 | | 48 | 48 | Boise State | 18.264 | 35 | 16.491 | 67 | 34.756 | | 49 | 49 | U. of Miami | 11.831 | 58 | 22.700 | 48 | 34.530 | | 50 | 50 | Boston College | 13.499 | 53 | 20.882 | 49 | 34.381 | | 51 | 51 | Colorado State | 18.525 | 34 | 15.833 | 70 | 34.358 | | 52 | 52 | Louisiana Tech | 10.878 | 63 | 23.051 | 46 | 33.930 | | 53 | 53 | Memphis | 7.864 | 80 | 25.387 | 39 | 33.251 | | 54 | -- | North Dakota St. | 15.710 | 45 | 17.342 | 62 | 33.051 | | 55 | 54 | Penn State | 13.821 | 52 | 19.227 | 57 | 33.048 | | 56 | 55 | Pittsburgh | 8.515 | 73 | 24.339 | 42 | 32.854 | | 57 | -- | Illinois State | 12.224 | 56 | 20.326 | 52 | 32.551 | | 58 | 56 | Northwestern | 11.222 | 61 | 19.827 | 55 | 31.049 | | 59 | 57 | Arkansas State | 10.972 | 62 | 19.933 | 54 | 30.906 | | 60 | 58 | California | 13.352 | 54 | 16.801 | 65 | 30.153 | | 61 | 59 | Rutgers | 15.316 | 48 | 14.432 | 74 | 29.749 | | 62 | 60 | UCF | 11.954 | 57 | 17.499 | 61 | 29.453 | | 63 | 61 | Oregon State | 19.161 | 29 | 10.272 | 88 | 29.434 | | 64 | 62 | Iowa State | 11.822 | 59 | 17.519 | 60 | 29.342 | | 65 | 63 | UAB | 8.288 | 79 | 20.397 | 51 | 28.685 | | 66 | 64 | NC State | 12.543 | 55 | 15.473 | 72 | 28.017 | | 67 | 65 | Syracuse | 7.512 | 82 | 19.204 | 58 | 26.715 | | 68 | 66 | Indiana | 9.891 | 65 | 16.513 | 66 | 26.404 | | 69 | 67 | Purdue | 10.810 | 64 | 14.938 | 73 | 25.748 | | 70 | 68 | Michigan | 8.372 | 75 | 16.995 | 63 | 25.367 | | 71 | 69 | Temple | 6.263 | 87 | 18.517 | 59 | 24.779 | | 72 | -- | Villanova | 8.821 | 71 | 13.534 | 75 | 22.355 | | 73 | 70 | Nevada | 9.537 | 66 | 12.681 | 76 | 22.218 | | 74 | 71 | Houston | 4.843 | 97 | 16.161 | 68 | 21.004 | | 75 | 72 | Rice | 9.442 | 67 | 11.484 | 81 | 20.926 | | 76 | 73 | North Carolina | 8.288 | 78 | 12.575 | 77 | 20.863 | | 77 | 74 | Western Ky. | 5.044 | 93 | 15.561 | 71 | 20.605 | | 78 | 75 | Washington St. | 4.190 | 99 | 16.119 | 69 | 20.309 | | 79 | 76 | Ga. Southern | 3.156 | 108 | 16.931 | 64 | 20.087 | | 80 | 77 | Akron | 7.516 | 81 | 11.833 | 79 | 19.349 | | 81 | 78 | Toledo | 5.914 | 89 | 12.162 | 78 | 18.076 | | 82 | 79 | Central Mich. | 8.346 | 77 | 8.810 | 91 | 17.156 | | 83 | 80 | Texas Tech | 5.928 | 88 | 11.147 | 83 | 17.075 | | 84 | 81 | Northern Ill. | 8.602 | 72 | 7.930 | 96 | 16.532 | | 85 | 82 | Illinois | 6.302 | 86 | 9.869 | 89 | 16.171 | | 86 | 83 | Air Force | 9.379 | 69 | 5.946 | 102 | 15.325 | | 87 | 84 | Colorado | 7.005 | 84 | 7.939 | 94 | 14.944 | | 88 | -- | Indiana State | 3.966 | 102 | 10.687 | 86 | 14.653 | | 89 | -- | New Hampshire | 8.362 | 76 | 5.060 | 105 | 13.422 | | 90 | 85 | Cincinnati | 1.974 | 119 | 11.149 | 82 | 13.122 | | 91 | -- | Southern Ill. | 5.409 | 92 | 7.619 | 97 | 13.028 | | 92 | 86 | Kansas | 5.588 | 90 | 7.429 | 98 | 13.016 | | 93 | 87 | South Alabama | 2.600 | 112 | 10.297 | 87 | 12.897 | | 94 | 88 | San Jose State | 5.471 | 91 | 6.988 | 100 | 12.460 | | 95 | 89 | Navy | 0.480 | 127 | 11.564 | 80 | 12.044 | | 96 | 90 | Wyoming | 11.597 | 60 | 0.130 | 126 | 11.727 | | 97 | -- | Southeastern La. | 3.707 | 103 | 7.937 | 95 | 11.644 | | 98 | -- | Coastal Caro. | 8.480 | 74 | 3.073 | 112 | 11.553 | | 99 | 91 | Western Mich. | 2.071 | 118 | 9.422 | 90 | 11.493 | | 100 | 92 | FIU | 0.429 | 128 | 10.952 | 84 | 11.381 | | 101 | 93 | Hawaii | 3.983 | 101 | 7.395 | 99 | 11.378 | | 102 | -- | Eastern Wash. | 9.398 | 68 | 1.882 | 118 | 11.280 | | 103 | 94 | UTSA | 2.693 | 110 | 8.296 | 92 | 10.989 | | 104 | 95 | Vanderbilt | 4.479 | 98 | 6.227 | 101 | 10.707 | | 105 | 96 | Middle Tenn. | 2.652 | 111 | 8.053 | 93 | 10.705 | | 106 | 97 | Bowling Green | 7.495 | 83 | 1.924 | 117 | 9.419 | | 107 | 98 | Fresno State | 6.715 | 85 | 2.179 | 115 | 8.894 | | 108 | -- | UNI | -3.383 | 148 | 10.808 | 85 | 7.426 | | 109 | 99 | ULM | 4.904 | 95 | 2.197 | 114 | 7.101 | | 110 | -- | Missouri State | 2.478 | 116 | 4.549 | 106 | 7.027 | | 111 | -- | Chattanooga | 1.153 | 122 | 5.462 | 103 | 6.615 | | 112 | 100 | Wake Forest | 2.325 | 117 | 3.466 | 109 | 5.791 | | 113 | 101 | Tulane | 4.152 | 100 | 1.164 | 119 | 5.315 | | 114 | 102 | San Diego State | 2.599 | 113 | 2.071 | 116 | 4.670 | | 115 | 103 | UTEP | 5.006 | 94 | -0.398 | 130 | 4.608 | | 116 | 104 | UL Lafayette | 4.853 | 96 | -0.305 | 129 | 4.548 | | 117 | 105 | South Florida | 1.368 | 120 | 2.698 | 113 | 4.067 | | 118 | -- | South Dakota St. | 3.455 | 105 | 0.594 | 123 | 4.049 | | 119 | 106 | FAU | 3.211 | 107 | 0.817 | 121 | 4.028 | | 120 | 107 | Southern Miss | 3.239 | 106 | -0.174 | 128 | 3.064 | | 121 | -- | Northwestern St. | 2.554 | 114 | 0.271 | 125 | 2.825 | | 122 | -- | Montana State | 2.528 | 115 | 0.296 | 124 | 2.824 | | 123 | -- | Youngstown St. | 1.263 | 121 | 0.966 | 120 | 2.228 | | 124 | -- | Fordham | -1.443 | 134 | 3.185 | 111 | 1.742 | | 125 | -- | Jacksonville St. | 3.591 | 104 | -2.680 | 140 | 0.911 | | 126 | 108 | North Texas | -4.664 | 156 | 5.366 | 104 | 0.703 | | 127 | 109 | Ohio | -1.192 | 133 | -0.453 | 131 | -1.645 | | 128 | -- | Southeast Mo. | -1.473 | 136 | -0.616 | 133 | -2.089 | | 129 | -- | Samford | -2.298 | 141 | -0.070 | 127 | -2.368 | | 130 | -- | Eastern Ky. | 0.134 | 130 | -2.720 | 141 | -2.586 | | 131 | 110 | Army | -2.076 | 139 | -0.582 | 132 | -2.659 | | 132 | -- | McNeese State | -6.220 | 164 | 3.382 | 110 | -2.838 | | 133 | -- | Richmond | -1.453 | 135 | -1.784 | 138 | -3.237 | | 134 | 111 | Old Dominion | 0.497 | 126 | -3.740 | 144 | -3.243 | | 135 | 112 | New Mexico | 0.271 | 129 | -3.530 | 142 | -3.259 | | 136 | 113 | Texas State | -8.391 | 175 | 4.016 | 107 | -4.374 | | 137 | -- | Montana | 0.871 | 124 | -5.876 | 150 | -5.005 | | 138 | -- | Western Ill. | -3.639 | 149 | -1.550 | 137 | -5.189 | | 139 | -- | Central Ark. | -6.325 | 166 | 0.784 | 122 | -5.541 | | 140 | -- | James Madison | -0.258 | 131 | -5.913 | 151 | -6.171 | | 141 | -- | Alcorn State | -5.517 | 159 | -0.856 | 134 | -6.373 | | 142 | 114 | Ball State | -10.484 | 192 | 3.893 | 108 | -6.592 | | 143 | -- | Bethune-Cookman | 2.869 | 109 | -10.038 | 164 | -7.169 | | 144 | 115 | Buffalo | -3.710 | 150 | -4.192 | 145 | -7.902 | | 145 | -- | Eastern Ill. | -6.957 | 169 | -1.244 | 136 | -8.201 | | 146 | 116 | Tulsa | -5.079 | 158 | -4.236 | 146 | -9.314 | | 147 | -- | Harvard | -2.726 | 144 | -6.620 | 153 | -9.346 | | 148 | -- | Idaho State | -2.516 | 143 | -7.345 | 156 | -9.861 | | 149 | -- | NC A&T | -4.211 | 153 | -5.844 | 149 | -10.055 | | 150 | -- | Dartmouth | 1.124 | 123 | -12.357 | 174 | -11.233 | | 151 | 117 | Connecticut | -6.926 | 167 | -4.795 | 147 | -11.721 | | 152 | -- | William & Mary | -2.909 | 145 | -9.627 | 162 | -12.535 | | 153 | -- | Liberty | -3.758 | 152 | -8.783 | 158 | -12.541 | | 154 | -- | Sam Houston St. | -3.062 | 146 | -9.524 | 161 | -12.586 | | 155 | 118 | Massachusetts | -11.532 | 198 | -1.225 | 135 | -12.757 | | 156 | 119 | SMU | -2.393 | 142 | -10.598 | 166 | -12.991 | | 157 | 120 | Troy | -7.722 | 174 | -5.636 | 148 | -13.358 | | 158 | -- | Bryant | 0.708 | 125 | -14.474 | 182 | -13.767 | | 159 | -- | Yale | -7.294 | 171 | -6.478 | 152 | -13.772 | | 160 | 121 | Appalachian St. | -10.231 | 187 | -3.638 | 143 | -13.869 | | 161 | 122 | Miami U. | -11.693 | 199 | -2.295 | 139 | -13.988 | | 162 | -- | Charleston So. | -4.384 | 154 | -10.528 | 165 | -14.912 | | 163 | -- | SC State | -2.225 | 140 | -12.720 | 176 | -14.946 | | 164 | -- | Lamar | -4.948 | 157 | -11.319 | 170 | -16.268 | | 165 | -- | Citadel | -9.982 | 186 | -6.794 | 155 | -16.775 | | 166 | -- | Presbyterian | -1.875 | 137 | -15.482 | 185 | -17.356 | | 167 | -- | Stephen F. Austin | -6.181 | 163 | -11.230 | 169 | -17.412 | | 168 | 123 | New Mexico St. | -9.193 | 179 | -8.752 | 157 | -17.945 | | 169 | -- | Duquesne | -5.570 | 160 | -12.529 | 175 | -18.099 | | 170 | -- | Western Caro. | -5.685 | 161 | -13.086 | 177 | -18.771 | | 171 | 124 | Eastern Mich. | -1.941 | 138 | -16.892 | 195 | -18.833 | | 172 | -- | Sacramento St. | -7.434 | 172 | -11.973 | 173 | -19.408 | | 173 | 125 | Georgia State | -9.588 | 183 | -9.843 | 163 | -19.431 | | 174 | -- | Sacred Heart | -4.538 | 155 | -14.942 | 183 | -19.480 | | 175 | 126 | UNLV | -6.260 | 165 | -13.309 | 178 | -19.569 | | 176 | -- | Bucknell | -3.750 | 151 | -15.974 | 188 | -19.724 | | 177 | -- | Delaware | -3.170 | 147 | -16.768 | 194 | -19.938 | | 178 | -- | Albany | -8.662 | 178 | -11.590 | 171 | -20.252 | | 179 | -- | Charlotte | -9.686 | 184 | -11.004 | 168 | -20.691 | | 180 | -- | Monmouth | -7.632 | 173 | -13.640 | 179 | -21.272 | | 181 | -- | Tennessee State | -12.362 | 201 | -9.323 | 159 | -21.685 | | 182 | -- | Furman | -7.013 | 170 | -15.028 | 184 | -22.041 | | 183 | -- | Jacksonville | -0.634 | 132 | -21.720 | 210 | -22.354 | | 184 | -- | South Dakota | -8.527 | 176 | -14.287 | 181 | -22.814 | | 185 | -- | Abilene Christian | -13.538 | 206 | -10.617 | 167 | -24.154 | | 186 | 127 | Kent State | -15.139 | 209 | -9.477 | 160 | -24.616 | | 187 | -- | UT Martin | -13.037 | 204 | -11.804 | 172 | -24.842 | | 188 | -- | Grambling State | -6.121 | 162 | -18.776 | 201 | -24.897 | | 189 | -- | Murray State | -11.517 | 197 | -13.916 | 180 | -25.432 | | 190 | -- | Alabama State | -9.917 | 185 | -15.533 | 186 | -25.451 | | 191 | 128 | Idaho | -19.514 | 225 | -6.765 | 154 | -26.279 | | 192 | -- | Wofford | -10.318 | 189 | -16.203 | 189 | -26.521 | | 193 | -- | Cal Poly | -11.012 | 196 | -15.838 | 187 | -26.850 | | 194 | -- | Gardner-Webb | -10.475 | 191 | -16.469 | 191 | -26.944 | | 195 | -- | Colgate | -10.515 | 195 | -16.668 | 193 | -27.183 | | 196 | -- | Stony Brook | -10.380 | 190 | -17.504 | 198 | -27.884 | | 197 | -- | Elon | -10.505 | 193 | -18.246 | 200 | -28.751 | | 198 | -- | North Dakota | -8.623 | 177 | -20.541 | 206 | -29.164 | | 199 | -- | Maine | -10.515 | 194 | -18.857 | 202 | -29.372 | | 200 | -- | Mercer | -10.262 | 188 | -19.481 | 204 | -29.743 | | 201 | -- | NC Central | -9.437 | 182 | -20.650 | 208 | -30.087 | | 202 | -- | Northern Ariz. | -12.581 | 202 | -17.762 | 199 | -30.343 | | 203 | -- | Lafayette | -13.432 | 205 | -16.946 | 197 | -30.378 | | 204 | -- | Southern Utah | -14.169 | 207 | -16.501 | 192 | -30.670 | | 205 | -- | Saint Francis | -15.850 | 210 | -16.280 | 190 | -32.130 | | 206 | -- | Texas Southern | -6.945 | 168 | -25.573 | 220 | -32.518 | | 207 | -- | Southern | -9.394 | 181 | -24.814 | 218 | -34.208 | | 208 | -- | UC Davis | -12.228 | 200 | -22.763 | 214 | -34.991 | | 209 | -- | Wagner | -18.272 | 219 | -19.413 | 203 | -37.684 | | 210 | -- | Weber State | -20.790 | 232 | -16.941 | 196 | -37.730 | | 211 | -- | Holy Cross | -17.574 | 216 | -20.238 | 205 | -37.812 | | 212 | -- | Portland State | -12.794 | 203 | -25.667 | 221 | -38.461 | | 213 | -- | Prairie View | -17.240 | 215 | -21.914 | 211 | -39.154 | | 214 | -- | Northern Colo. | -16.834 | 214 | -22.650 | 213 | -39.484 | | 215 | -- | CCSU | -18.578 | 221 | -22.420 | 212 | -40.998 | | 216 | -- | Morgan State | -18.577 | 220 | -22.805 | 216 | -41.383 | | 217 | -- | Tennessee Tech | -20.770 | 231 | -20.633 | 207 | -41.404 | | 218 | -- | Princeton | -20.898 | 233 | -21.398 | 209 | -42.297 | | 219 | -- | Towson | -16.217 | 211 | -26.984 | 222 | -43.201 | | 220 | -- | San Diego | -9.337 | 180 | -33.951 | 234 | -43.288 | | 221 | -- | Howard | -19.270 | 222 | -25.475 | 219 | -44.745 | | 222 | -- | Lehigh | -22.153 | 235 | -22.789 | 215 | -44.942 | | 223 | -- | Penn | -18.072 | 217 | -27.589 | 223 | -45.661 | | 224 | -- | Dayton | -16.665 | 213 | -29.633 | 230 | -46.297 | | 225 | -- | Alabama A&M | -18.123 | 218 | -28.294 | 226 | -46.417 | | 226 | -- | Brown | -22.440 | 236 | -24.748 | 217 | -47.188 | | 227 | -- | Hampton | -19.771 | 227 | -27.995 | 224 | -47.766 | | 228 | -- | Norfolk State | -19.445 | 224 | -29.597 | 229 | -49.042 | | 229 | -- | VMI | -20.202 | 230 | -30.313 | 231 | -50.515 | | 230 | -- | Jackson State | -24.767 | 241 | -28.169 | 225 | -52.936 | | 231 | -- | Campbell | -14.882 | 208 | -38.093 | 238 | -52.975 | | 232 | -- | Georgetown | -24.932 | 242 | -28.310 | 227 | -53.241 | | 233 | -- | Rhode Island | -24.491 | 240 | -28.824 | 228 | -53.315 | | 234 | -- | Butler | -16.224 | 212 | -39.266 | 242 | -55.489 | | 235 | -- | Miss. Valley St. | -20.191 | 229 | -36.193 | 236 | -56.384 | | 236 | -- | Delaware State | -21.756 | 234 | -35.178 | 235 | -56.935 | | 237 | -- | Florida A&M | -25.060 | 243 | -32.377 | 233 | -57.437 | | 238 | -- | Cornell | -26.110 | 244 | -32.185 | 232 | -58.295 | | 239 | -- | Incarnate Word | -19.645 | 226 | -38.722 | 240 | -58.367 | | 240 | -- | Austin Peay | -19.346 | 223 | -39.212 | 241 | -58.557 | | 241 | -- | Drake | -24.177 | 239 | -36.255 | 237 | -60.432 | | 242 | -- | Morehead State | -19.855 | 228 | -42.197 | 245 | -62.052 | | 243 | -- | UAPB | -24.144 | 238 | -39.351 | 243 | -63.495 | | 244 | -- | Nicholls State | -23.888 | 237 | -41.685 | 244 | -65.573 | | 245 | -- | Marist | -30.358 | 249 | -38.141 | 239 | -68.499 | | 246 | -- | Robert Morris | -28.498 | 246 | -43.570 | 247 | -72.068 | | 247 | -- | Valparaiso | -28.913 | 247 | -43.923 | 248 | -72.837 | | 248 | -- | Houston Baptist | -32.141 | 250 | -42.785 | 246 | -74.926 | | 249 | -- | Columbia | -29.697 | 248 | -46.361 | 249 | -76.058 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | -- | -- | Non-Division I | -28.175 | -- | -48.252 | -- | -76.427 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | 250 | -- | Stetson | -26.737 | 245 | -51.242 | 252 | -77.980 | | 251 | -- | Davidson | -34.043 | 251 | -48.614 | 250 | -82.657 | | 252 | -- | Savannah State | -34.810 | 252 | -50.737 | 251 | -85.546 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+
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The top two are just wrong, but who am I to argue with a computer? Lots of notable idiosyncrasies: there's Florida State's #6, presumably due to lackluster wins against a slate which is not exactly fantastic. There's #16 Tennessee, which actually makes me wonder if there's a bug in the code or in the raw data - presumably the close loss to Georgia is lifting them up? But hey, that's the fun of a moon poll! Edit: Fixed accidentally leaving some teams out. code:
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Captain von Trapp posted:The top two are just wrong, but who am I to argue with a computer? Lots of notable idiosyncrasies: there's Florida State's #6, presumably due to lackluster wins against a slate which is not exactly fantastic. There's #16 Tennessee, which actually makes me wonder if there's a bug in the code or in the raw data - presumably the close loss to Georgia is lifting them up? But hey, that's the fun of a moon poll! Close losses to 4 and 21 and a loss to 6 isn't bad 6 isn't bad for Tennessee on paper. Wins over 42 and 51 pretty convincingly, too.
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Captain von Trapp posted:The top two are just wrong, but who am I to argue with a computer? Lots of notable idiosyncrasies: there's Florida State's #6, presumably due to lackluster wins against a slate which is not exactly fantastic. There's #16 Tennessee, which actually makes me wonder if there's a bug in the code or in the raw data - presumably the close loss to Georgia is lifting them up? But hey, that's the fun of a moon poll! I'm being a total homer (and opening up for widespread abuse) but why isn't Ohio State ranked?
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Halah posted:I'm being a total homer (and opening up for widespread abuse) but why isn't Ohio State ranked? Thanks for the catch - it was a glitch in how I generated the final list. My data source is just a list of game results from the NCAA website. This includes all games that involve Division 1 teams, which pulls in a bunch of lower division teams as well. To try to prevent those from cluttering things, I only listed teams that had played at least 6 FBS/FCS games. So teams that had only played 5 such games were missed in the final printout (but not from the actual algorithm). I re-printed with 5 games as the cutoff and edited the post to fix it, and Ohio State is #25.
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pre:LW Rank Team Record Final Score Conferences - 2 1 Ole Miss 6-0 2.5034 1. SEC 3 2 Mississippi State 6-0 2.2197 2. Pac 12 1 3 Auburn 5-1 1.8896 3. Big 10 18 4 Georgia 5-1 1.7277 4. Big 12 4 5 Notre Dame 6-0 1.7054 5. ACC 5 6 Alabama 5-1 1.6760 6. MWC 6 7 Baylor 6-0 1.6418 7. Conf USA 8 8 Marshall 6-0 1.5989 8. American 11 9 Michigan State 5-1 1.4477 9. MAC 13 10 Florida State 6-0 1.4196 10. Sun Belt 9 11 Oklahoma 5-1 1.4015 7 12 TCU 4-1 1.3980 Floaters - 15 13 Oregon 5-1 1.3892 1. +21 - Boston College 17 14 LSU 5-2 1.3123 2. +19 - Tennessee 20 15 Ohio State 4-1 1.2491 3. +18 - Utah St, UTEP 10 16 Arizona 5-1 1.2464 4. +16 - Washington, Arkansas St, Rice, Navy 25 17 Duke 5-1 1.2079 19 18 Stanford 4-2 1.1949 Sinkers - 16 19 Nebraska 5-1 1.1818 4. -21 - Memphis 12 20 Louisville 5-2 1.1306 3. -22 - Indiana NR 21 Clemson 4-2 1.1170 2. -23 - Missouri 14 22 Texas A&M 5-2 1.1092 1. -27 - North Texas NR 23 Kentucky 5-1 1.0852 23 24 Temple 4-1 1.0410 NR 25 USC 4-2 1.0396 pre:Rank Team Record Final Score 26 Georgia Tech 5-1 1.0200 27 Washington 5-1 1.0127 28 East Carolina 5-1 0.9661 29 Kansas State 4-1 0.9507 30 Minnesota 5-1 0.9162 31 Georgia Southern 5-2 0.9151 32 Utah 4-1 0.8878 33 Wisconsin 4-2 0.8723 34 Virginia Tech 4-2 0.8277 35 Boston College 4-2 0.7782 36 Oklahoma State 5-1 0.7742 37 Colorado State 5-1 0.7717 38 Iowa 5-1 0.7637 39 Arizona State 4-1 0.7560 40 Penn State 4-2 0.7317 41 Virginia 4-2 0.7260 42 UCLA 4-2 0.7152 43 Rutgers 5-1 0.6944 44 Boise State 4-2 0.6760 45 Florida 3-2 0.6746 46 Utah State 4-2 0.6604 47 Oregon State 4-1 0.6595 48 Akron 4-2 0.6442 49 BYU 4-2 0.6428 50 West Virginia 4-2 0.5716 51 UAB 4-2 0.5381 52 Arkansas State 4-2 0.5362 53 Missouri 4-2 0.5320 54 Memphis 3-3 0.5220 55 Arkansas 3-3 0.5047 56 Air Force 4-2 0.4973 57 Pittsburgh 3-3 0.4852 58 Miami (FL) 4-3 0.4749 59 Tennessee 3-3 0.4429 60 Northern Illinois 4-2 0.4305 61 Maryland 4-2 0.4083 62 Northwestern 3-3 0.3850 63 Bowling Green 5-2 0.3588 64 South Alabama 3-2 0.3561 65 Texas State 3-2 0.3524 66 California 4-2 0.3517 67 Houston 3-3 0.3152 68 NC State 4-3 0.3062 69 UCF 3-2 0.2688 70 Middle Tennessee 4-3 0.2482 71 Central Michigan 4-3 0.1902 72 Toledo 4-3 0.1606 73 Louisiana Tech 3-3 0.1308 74 Nevada 3-3 0.1275 75 Western Michigan 3-3 0.1196 76 Rice 3-3 0.1079 77 San Diego State 3-3 0.0996 78 Western Kentucky 2-3 0.0832 79 South Carolina 3-3 0.0696 80 Florida International 3-4 -0.0070 81 UTEP 3-3 -0.0157 82 Louisiana-Monroe 3-3 -0.0319 83 Indiana 3-4 -0.0480 84 Navy 3-4 -0.0749 85 San Jose State 2-3 -0.0951 86 Buffalo 3-4 -0.1051 87 Texas 2-4 -0.1146 88 Illinois 3-3 -0.1179 89 Syracuse 2-4 -0.1191 90 Wyoming 3-3 -0.1205 91 Michigan 3-4 -0.1391 92 Purdue 3-4 -0.1496 93 Colorado 2-4 -0.1518 94 Old Dominion 3-4 -0.1555 95 UTSA 2-4 -0.1807 96 Cincinnati 2-3 -0.1858 97 North Carolina 2-4 -0.1870 98 Fresno State 3-4 -0.1941 99 Hawaii 2-4 -0.2120 100 Kansas 2-4 -0.2369 101 Washington State 2-5 -0.2553 102 Ohio U 3-4 -0.2804 103 Tulane 2-4 -0.2805 104 Iowa State 2-4 -0.2904 105 New Mexico 2-4 -0.2944 106 Louisiana-Lafayette 2-3 -0.2964 107 Texas Tech 2-4 -0.3015 108 South Florida 2-4 -0.3108 109 North Texas 2-4 -0.3143 110 Southern Miss 2-4 -0.3285 111 Florida Atlantic 2-4 -0.3429 112 Wake Forest 2-4 -0.3597 113 Army 2-4 -0.4167 114 Vanderbilt 2-5 -0.4285 115 Tulsa 1-5 -0.4690 116 Troy 1-5 -0.5484 117 New Mexico State 2-5 -0.5642 118 Eastern Michigan 2-4 -0.6049 pre:Rank Team Record Final Score 119 UNLV 2-5 -0.6077 120 Appalachian State 1-5 -0.6413 121 SMU 0-5 -0.6632 122 Idaho 0-6 -0.6746 123 Ball State 1-5 -0.6933 124 Connecticut 1-5 -0.7205 125 Georgia State 1-5 -0.7251 126 Kent State 0-6 -0.7301 127 Massachusetts 1-6 -0.8126 128 Miami (OH) 1-6 -0.8333
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Hayden Matrix Rankings, Week Eight This is apparently the year that the SEC devours all, or something. I'm starting to suspect that no matter how the SEC West race shakes out we're going to end up with quite a few teams from that division in the top ten. (The Sagarin ratings look similarly odd. Reading the Callaghan et al. paper, I'm thinking it's because the SEC West plus Georgia constitutes a "nearly undefeated subgraph"—something similar happened in, for example, 2001, where computers will often stick Tennessee at #2 and Florida and LSU in much higher positions than one might expect. This season is more extreme, though, because the group of eight teams I'm referring to literally has one loss as a whole. ![]() Florida State is apparently stuck in hell. Also Auburn got above Mississippi State and Ole Miss again. The MOV ratings are giving them a ton of credit for blowing four of their opponents this season the gently caress out, I think. pre:+------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | Rank | FBS | Team | Wins | Rk | Pts | Rk | Rating | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | 1 | 1 | Auburn | 32.694 | 3 | 52.127 | 1 | 84.821 | | 2 | 2 | Ole Miss | 34.358 | 1 | 49.633 | 3 | 83.991 | | 3 | 3 | Mississippi St. | 34.264 | 2 | 47.348 | 4 | 81.612 | | 4 | 4 | Alabama | 30.404 | 4 | 50.914 | 2 | 81.318 | | 5 | 5 | Georgia | 26.239 | 7 | 45.125 | 5 | 71.364 | | 6 | 6 | TCU | 25.676 | 11 | 43.298 | 6 | 68.974 | | 7 | 7 | Oklahoma | 23.249 | 15 | 42.802 | 7 | 66.051 | | 8 | 8 | Oregon | 27.432 | 6 | 37.533 | 11 | 64.965 | | 9 | 9 | Kansas State | 25.869 | 10 | 37.024 | 13 | 62.893 | | 10 | 10 | Clemson | 26.089 | 9 | 36.626 | 14 | 62.715 | | 11 | 11 | Michigan State | 24.474 | 13 | 37.390 | 12 | 61.863 | | 12 | 12 | Baylor | 22.325 | 20 | 39.382 | 9 | 61.707 | | 13 | 13 | LSU | 22.257 | 21 | 38.955 | 10 | 61.212 | | 14 | 14 | Florida State | 28.372 | 5 | 32.839 | 21 | 61.211 | | 15 | 15 | Ohio State | 19.729 | 28 | 40.446 | 8 | 60.174 | | 16 | 16 | Notre Dame | 26.168 | 8 | 33.477 | 18 | 59.645 | | 17 | 17 | Nebraska | 22.385 | 19 | 35.891 | 16 | 58.277 | | 18 | 18 | UCLA | 24.294 | 14 | 32.333 | 22 | 56.628 | | 19 | 19 | West Virginia | 22.609 | 18 | 33.106 | 19 | 55.715 | | 20 | 20 | USC | 23.222 | 16 | 31.188 | 23 | 54.410 | | 21 | 21 | Arizona | 25.079 | 12 | 27.970 | 31 | 53.049 | | 22 | 22 | Texas A&M | 18.342 | 32 | 34.271 | 17 | 52.612 | | 23 | 23 | Arkansas | 15.179 | 41 | 36.185 | 15 | 51.364 | | 24 | 24 | Missouri | 21.376 | 22 | 29.809 | 26 | 51.185 | | 25 | 25 | Utah | 19.457 | 29 | 28.359 | 28 | 47.816 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | 26 | 26 | Tennessee | 14.778 | 44 | 32.871 | 20 | 47.649 | | 27 | 27 | Minnesota | 22.832 | 17 | 24.300 | 40 | 47.132 | | 28 | 28 | Louisville | 16.907 | 35 | 30.020 | 25 | 46.927 | | 29 | 29 | Maryland | 19.823 | 27 | 27.050 | 32 | 46.873 | | 30 | 30 | Marshall | 15.884 | 38 | 30.198 | 24 | 46.082 | | 31 | 31 | Oklahoma State | 20.430 | 26 | 25.248 | 35 | 45.678 | | 32 | 32 | Arizona State | 20.768 | 24 | 24.787 | 37 | 45.555 | | 33 | 33 | Wisconsin | 13.309 | 50 | 29.284 | 27 | 42.592 | | 34 | 34 | Florida | 13.512 | 49 | 28.324 | 29 | 41.836 | | 35 | 35 | Duke | 16.749 | 36 | 24.522 | 38 | 41.271 | | 36 | 36 | Kentucky | 18.464 | 31 | 22.763 | 45 | 41.227 | | 37 | 37 | South Carolina | 16.921 | 34 | 24.236 | 41 | 41.157 | | 38 | 38 | Virginia Tech | 13.638 | 48 | 26.110 | 33 | 39.747 | | 39 | 39 | East Carolina | 17.397 | 33 | 22.214 | 49 | 39.611 | | 40 | 40 | Boise State | 20.519 | 25 | 18.329 | 61 | 38.848 | | 41 | 41 | Colorado State | 20.881 | 23 | 17.836 | 63 | 38.716 | | 42 | 42 | Memphis | 10.386 | 64 | 28.246 | 30 | 38.631 | | 43 | 43 | BYU | 14.845 | 43 | 23.594 | 43 | 38.438 | | 44 | 44 | Stanford | 12.665 | 55 | 25.719 | 34 | 38.384 | | 45 | 45 | Virginia | 12.973 | 53 | 25.214 | 36 | 38.187 | | 46 | 46 | Iowa | 14.639 | 45 | 22.381 | 48 | 37.021 | | 47 | 47 | Boston College | 13.156 | 51 | 23.715 | 42 | 36.871 | | 48 | 48 | Washington | 15.928 | 37 | 20.909 | 50 | 36.837 | | 49 | 49 | Georgia Tech | 15.771 | 39 | 19.435 | 53 | 35.206 | | 50 | 50 | U. of Miami | 12.148 | 58 | 22.927 | 44 | 35.075 | | 51 | 51 | Louisiana Tech | 12.529 | 56 | 22.518 | 46 | 35.048 | | 52 | -- | North Dakota St. | 15.589 | 40 | 19.132 | 54 | 34.721 | | 53 | 52 | Pittsburgh | 9.812 | 68 | 24.410 | 39 | 34.222 | | 54 | 53 | Oregon State | 18.990 | 30 | 15.157 | 72 | 34.148 | | 55 | -- | Illinois State | 13.862 | 47 | 18.957 | 55 | 32.818 | | 56 | 54 | Utah State | 15.083 | 42 | 17.681 | 64 | 32.763 | | 57 | 55 | Texas | 10.020 | 66 | 22.455 | 47 | 32.475 | | 58 | 56 | Texas Tech | 12.987 | 52 | 18.380 | 60 | 31.366 | | 59 | 57 | Penn State | 12.474 | 57 | 18.419 | 59 | 30.892 | | 60 | 58 | Nevada | 14.127 | 46 | 16.285 | 68 | 30.412 | | 61 | 59 | Northwestern | 9.585 | 69 | 19.996 | 51 | 29.581 | | 62 | 60 | California | 10.704 | 63 | 18.738 | 57 | 29.442 | | 63 | 61 | UCF | 12.748 | 54 | 16.119 | 70 | 28.868 | | 64 | 62 | Syracuse | 9.515 | 70 | 18.931 | 56 | 28.446 | | 65 | 63 | Arkansas State | 9.348 | 71 | 18.716 | 58 | 28.064 | | 66 | 64 | NC State | 11.599 | 60 | 16.269 | 69 | 27.868 | | 67 | 65 | Houston | 7.309 | 82 | 19.457 | 52 | 26.766 | | 68 | 66 | North Carolina | 11.918 | 59 | 14.413 | 75 | 26.331 | | 69 | 67 | Iowa State | 8.170 | 76 | 17.672 | 65 | 25.841 | | 70 | 68 | Michigan | 7.828 | 78 | 16.826 | 66 | 24.654 | | 71 | 69 | Purdue | 8.280 | 75 | 15.889 | 71 | 24.169 | | 72 | 70 | Rutgers | 11.239 | 61 | 11.974 | 79 | 23.213 | | 73 | 71 | Ga. Southern | 4.382 | 99 | 18.106 | 62 | 22.489 | | 74 | 72 | Indiana | 8.974 | 73 | 13.506 | 77 | 22.480 | | 75 | -- | Villanova | 10.327 | 65 | 10.541 | 83 | 20.868 | | 76 | 73 | Washington St. | 3.251 | 109 | 16.474 | 67 | 19.725 | | 77 | 74 | Toledo | 6.638 | 85 | 13.079 | 78 | 19.717 | | 78 | 75 | Cincinnati | 5.245 | 95 | 14.310 | 76 | 19.555 | | 79 | 76 | Northern Ill. | 9.004 | 72 | 9.213 | 92 | 18.217 | | 80 | 77 | UAB | 3.240 | 110 | 14.710 | 73 | 17.950 | | 81 | 78 | Middle Tenn. | 5.984 | 92 | 11.438 | 81 | 17.422 | | 82 | 79 | Rice | 7.397 | 81 | 9.723 | 85 | 17.121 | | 83 | 80 | Temple | 2.157 | 114 | 14.673 | 74 | 16.830 | | 84 | 81 | Colorado | 6.868 | 83 | 9.294 | 91 | 16.162 | | 85 | 82 | South Alabama | 6.396 | 88 | 9.670 | 86 | 16.066 | | 86 | 83 | San Jose State | 8.304 | 74 | 7.729 | 97 | 16.033 | | 87 | 84 | Air Force | 9.917 | 67 | 5.862 | 102 | 15.779 | | 88 | 85 | Western Mich. | 5.514 | 94 | 9.594 | 88 | 15.109 | | 89 | 86 | Illinois | 5.140 | 96 | 9.435 | 89 | 14.575 | | 90 | 87 | Wyoming | 11.111 | 62 | 2.736 | 117 | 13.847 | | 91 | -- | Indiana State | 4.107 | 103 | 9.055 | 93 | 13.161 | | 92 | -- | New Hampshire | 7.799 | 79 | 4.989 | 107 | 12.788 | | 93 | 88 | Central Mich. | 4.315 | 100 | 8.395 | 95 | 12.710 | | 94 | 89 | San Diego State | 6.155 | 90 | 6.476 | 99 | 12.631 | | 95 | 90 | Western Ky. | 0.737 | 124 | 11.879 | 80 | 12.616 | | 96 | 91 | UTSA | 1.617 | 117 | 10.945 | 82 | 12.563 | | 97 | 92 | Akron | 2.621 | 112 | 9.625 | 87 | 12.246 | | 98 | -- | Southeastern La. | 4.037 | 104 | 7.967 | 96 | 12.004 | | 99 | 93 | UL Lafayette | 6.551 | 86 | 5.075 | 105 | 11.626 | | 100 | 94 | Fresno State | 6.706 | 84 | 4.671 | 108 | 11.377 | | 101 | 95 | FAU | 5.610 | 93 | 5.525 | 104 | 11.135 | | 102 | -- | Coastal Caro. | 7.923 | 77 | 2.081 | 119 | 10.004 | | 103 | 96 | Kansas | 3.365 | 108 | 6.544 | 98 | 9.909 | | 104 | -- | Missouri State | 4.503 | 98 | 5.057 | 106 | 9.559 | | 105 | -- | South Dakota St. | 6.281 | 89 | 3.273 | 115 | 9.554 | | 106 | 97 | Navy | -0.621 | 131 | 10.170 | 84 | 9.549 | | 107 | 98 | Southern Miss | 6.014 | 91 | 3.354 | 113 | 9.368 | | 108 | 99 | UTEP | 6.515 | 87 | 2.091 | 118 | 8.607 | | 109 | 100 | FIU | -0.484 | 130 | 8.969 | 94 | 8.484 | | 110 | -- | Southern Ill. | 2.042 | 115 | 6.139 | 101 | 8.181 | | 111 | 101 | Vanderbilt | 3.447 | 107 | 3.727 | 111 | 7.174 | | 112 | -- | Eastern Wash. | 7.528 | 80 | -0.366 | 133 | 7.162 | | 113 | -- | Youngstown St. | 3.602 | 106 | 3.460 | 112 | 7.062 | | 114 | -- | Chattanooga | 1.098 | 122 | 5.813 | 103 | 6.911 | | 115 | 102 | South Florida | 3.650 | 105 | 3.197 | 116 | 6.847 | | 116 | 103 | Hawaii | 0.454 | 125 | 6.379 | 100 | 6.833 | | 117 | 104 | Bowling Green | 4.509 | 97 | 0.994 | 125 | 5.503 | | 118 | 105 | Ohio | 2.572 | 113 | 1.904 | 120 | 4.476 | | 119 | -- | UNI | -4.950 | 152 | 9.357 | 90 | 4.407 | | 120 | 106 | ULM | 4.143 | 102 | 0.054 | 128 | 4.197 | | 121 | -- | Northwestern St. | 4.308 | 101 | -1.274 | 135 | 3.034 | | 122 | 107 | Tulane | 1.054 | 123 | 1.615 | 122 | 2.668 | | 123 | -- | Eastern Ill. | -3.036 | 142 | 3.927 | 109 | 0.891 | | 124 | -- | Fordham | -0.990 | 133 | 1.860 | 121 | 0.871 | | 125 | -- | Montana State | 1.245 | 121 | -1.158 | 134 | 0.087 | | 126 | 108 | Wake Forest | -0.425 | 129 | 0.196 | 127 | -0.229 | | 127 | -- | Jacksonville St. | 2.694 | 111 | -3.460 | 141 | -0.766 | | 128 | -- | McNeese State | -4.166 | 147 | 3.295 | 114 | -0.871 | | 129 | 109 | New Mexico | -0.830 | 132 | -0.071 | 131 | -0.901 | | 130 | 110 | Ball State | -5.956 | 158 | 3.786 | 110 | -2.170 | | 131 | -- | Western Ill. | -4.170 | 148 | 1.124 | 124 | -3.046 | | 132 | 111 | Old Dominion | -0.202 | 128 | -3.137 | 139 | -3.339 | | 133 | -- | Montana | 1.584 | 118 | -5.265 | 146 | -3.681 | | 134 | -- | Richmond | -2.526 | 138 | -1.440 | 136 | -3.966 | | 135 | -- | James Madison | 1.324 | 120 | -6.216 | 150 | -4.893 | | 136 | 112 | Appalachian St. | -6.224 | 162 | 1.313 | 123 | -4.911 | | 137 | -- | Alcorn State | -3.619 | 145 | -2.119 | 138 | -5.739 | | 138 | 113 | North Texas | -6.669 | 166 | 0.862 | 126 | -5.807 | | 139 | -- | Central Ark. | -6.125 | 160 | -0.021 | 129 | -6.146 | | 140 | 114 | Massachusetts | -8.062 | 180 | -0.027 | 130 | -8.089 | | 141 | -- | Eastern Ky. | -3.566 | 144 | -4.815 | 143 | -8.381 | | 142 | -- | Idaho State | -2.647 | 139 | -6.308 | 152 | -8.954 | | 143 | 115 | Texas State | -8.821 | 183 | -0.264 | 132 | -9.084 | | 144 | -- | Harvard | -2.108 | 136 | -7.485 | 156 | -9.593 | | 145 | -- | Liberty | -2.353 | 137 | -7.446 | 155 | -9.800 | | 146 | -- | Samford | -6.821 | 170 | -3.166 | 140 | -9.987 | | 147 | -- | Bryant | 1.701 | 116 | -11.776 | 170 | -10.075 | | 148 | -- | William & Mary | -4.117 | 146 | -6.744 | 153 | -10.861 | | 149 | -- | Southeast Mo. | -5.235 | 153 | -6.298 | 151 | -11.533 | | 150 | 116 | Tulsa | -7.060 | 171 | -4.659 | 142 | -11.720 | | 151 | 117 | Buffalo | -5.989 | 159 | -5.807 | 148 | -11.796 | | 152 | -- | Bethune-Cookman | -0.007 | 127 | -12.177 | 172 | -12.183 | | 153 | 118 | Connecticut | -7.227 | 173 | -5.056 | 145 | -12.283 | | 154 | 119 | Army | -6.392 | 164 | -6.003 | 149 | -12.396 | | 155 | -- | Yale | -4.847 | 151 | -7.700 | 157 | -12.548 | | 156 | -- | Dartmouth | 1.422 | 119 | -14.611 | 183 | -13.189 | | 157 | 120 | Kent State | -8.712 | 182 | -4.940 | 144 | -13.652 | | 158 | 121 | Miami U. | -11.710 | 195 | -2.060 | 137 | -13.769 | | 159 | -- | Presbyterian | 0.437 | 126 | -14.212 | 181 | -13.775 | | 160 | -- | Sam Houston St. | -4.828 | 150 | -9.091 | 160 | -13.919 | | 161 | -- | Western Caro. | -2.850 | 141 | -11.720 | 169 | -14.570 | | 162 | -- | NC A&T | -5.858 | 157 | -9.181 | 161 | -15.039 | | 163 | 122 | UNLV | -4.389 | 149 | -10.869 | 164 | -15.258 | | 164 | -- | Sacred Heart | -2.085 | 135 | -13.782 | 178 | -15.867 | | 165 | -- | Lamar | -5.509 | 154 | -11.097 | 167 | -16.606 | | 166 | -- | Stephen F. Austin | -6.162 | 161 | -10.924 | 165 | -17.086 | | 167 | -- | SC State | -3.329 | 143 | -13.997 | 179 | -17.326 | | 168 | -- | Cal Poly | -7.453 | 175 | -10.289 | 162 | -17.742 | | 169 | 123 | Georgia State | -10.749 | 189 | -7.076 | 154 | -17.825 | | 170 | -- | Bucknell | -2.820 | 140 | -15.179 | 188 | -17.999 | | 171 | -- | Albany | -6.417 | 165 | -11.833 | 171 | -18.250 | | 172 | 124 | Idaho | -13.468 | 202 | -5.729 | 147 | -19.197 | | 173 | 125 | New Mexico St. | -11.261 | 191 | -8.166 | 158 | -19.428 | | 174 | -- | Monmouth | -6.792 | 169 | -12.937 | 174 | -19.729 | | 175 | -- | Citadel | -11.416 | 194 | -8.876 | 159 | -20.292 | | 176 | -- | Furman | -6.259 | 163 | -14.257 | 182 | -20.516 | | 177 | -- | Charleston So. | -7.533 | 176 | -13.031 | 176 | -20.564 | | 178 | -- | Duquesne | -7.828 | 179 | -12.945 | 175 | -20.773 | | 179 | 126 | SMU | -5.721 | 156 | -15.777 | 189 | -21.498 | | 180 | -- | Wofford | -7.811 | 177 | -14.651 | 184 | -22.463 | | 181 | -- | Stony Brook | -7.828 | 178 | -14.744 | 186 | -22.571 | | 182 | 127 | Troy | -11.319 | 192 | -11.577 | 168 | -22.897 | | 183 | -- | South Dakota | -9.311 | 185 | -14.081 | 180 | -23.392 | | 184 | -- | Grambling State | -5.642 | 155 | -18.507 | 198 | -24.150 | | 185 | -- | UT Martin | -11.369 | 193 | -12.859 | 173 | -24.228 | | 186 | -- | Jacksonville | -1.208 | 134 | -23.190 | 215 | -24.398 | | 187 | -- | Sacramento St. | -10.079 | 187 | -14.807 | 187 | -24.886 | | 188 | -- | Charlotte | -11.917 | 197 | -13.034 | 177 | -24.951 | | 189 | 128 | Eastern Mich. | -6.764 | 168 | -18.368 | 197 | -25.132 | | 190 | -- | Tennessee State | -14.177 | 209 | -11.091 | 166 | -25.267 | | 191 | -- | Abilene Christian | -14.920 | 213 | -10.600 | 163 | -25.519 | | 192 | -- | Northern Ariz. | -9.203 | 184 | -16.347 | 192 | -25.550 | | 193 | -- | North Dakota | -7.107 | 172 | -19.206 | 203 | -26.314 | | 194 | -- | Delaware | -7.298 | 174 | -19.145 | 201 | -26.443 | | 195 | -- | Alabama State | -10.510 | 188 | -16.107 | 190 | -26.617 | | 196 | -- | Maine | -10.888 | 190 | -18.297 | 196 | -29.185 | | 197 | -- | Lafayette | -13.543 | 203 | -16.142 | 191 | -29.686 | | 198 | -- | Colgate | -12.189 | 198 | -17.998 | 195 | -30.187 | | 199 | -- | Southern Utah | -13.429 | 201 | -16.939 | 193 | -30.368 | | 200 | -- | Gardner-Webb | -12.280 | 200 | -19.149 | 202 | -31.428 | | 201 | -- | Mercer | -11.758 | 196 | -20.036 | 206 | -31.794 | | 202 | -- | Murray State | -13.920 | 207 | -18.970 | 200 | -32.890 | | 203 | -- | Southern | -8.531 | 181 | -24.691 | 218 | -33.222 | | 204 | -- | Saint Francis | -15.404 | 215 | -17.948 | 194 | -33.352 | | 205 | -- | Weber State | -19.372 | 228 | -14.743 | 185 | -34.114 | | 206 | -- | Prairie View | -14.839 | 211 | -19.654 | 204 | -34.492 | | 207 | -- | Texas Southern | -9.746 | 186 | -24.979 | 219 | -34.724 | | 208 | -- | Tennessee Tech | -15.860 | 219 | -18.909 | 199 | -34.769 | | 209 | -- | Elon | -13.947 | 208 | -21.502 | 210 | -35.449 | | 210 | -- | NC Central | -13.786 | 206 | -21.894 | 212 | -35.680 | | 211 | -- | Northern Colo. | -15.522 | 217 | -20.599 | 208 | -36.122 | | 212 | -- | UC Davis | -13.730 | 205 | -22.795 | 213 | -36.525 | | 213 | -- | Towson | -12.211 | 199 | -24.330 | 217 | -36.541 | | 214 | -- | Princeton | -17.227 | 221 | -20.588 | 207 | -37.815 | | 215 | -- | Portland State | -14.548 | 210 | -23.292 | 216 | -37.840 | | 216 | -- | Wagner | -18.059 | 224 | -19.882 | 205 | -37.942 | | 217 | -- | Morgan State | -15.380 | 214 | -22.941 | 214 | -38.321 | | 218 | -- | Holy Cross | -17.487 | 223 | -21.100 | 209 | -38.588 | | 219 | -- | Dayton | -13.553 | 204 | -25.661 | 220 | -39.215 | | 220 | -- | Lehigh | -18.436 | 225 | -21.848 | 211 | -40.284 | | 221 | -- | San Diego | -6.757 | 167 | -33.951 | 234 | -40.708 | | 222 | -- | Penn | -15.520 | 216 | -28.396 | 226 | -43.916 | | 223 | -- | Norfolk State | -16.625 | 220 | -27.649 | 223 | -44.275 | | 224 | -- | CCSU | -21.155 | 231 | -25.849 | 221 | -47.004 | | 225 | -- | Alabama A&M | -19.271 | 226 | -29.947 | 230 | -49.218 | | 226 | -- | VMI | -19.866 | 229 | -29.378 | 229 | -49.244 | | 227 | -- | Austin Peay | -14.876 | 212 | -34.697 | 236 | -49.574 | | 228 | -- | Howard | -23.361 | 237 | -28.130 | 224 | -51.491 | | 229 | -- | Brown | -24.761 | 244 | -26.944 | 222 | -51.705 | | 230 | -- | Hampton | -22.589 | 236 | -29.313 | 228 | -51.902 | | 231 | -- | Florida A&M | -20.812 | 230 | -31.407 | 232 | -52.219 | | 232 | -- | Georgetown | -24.430 | 243 | -28.195 | 225 | -52.624 | | 233 | -- | Jackson State | -24.059 | 242 | -28.645 | 227 | -52.704 | | 234 | -- | Rhode Island | -23.674 | 240 | -31.352 | 231 | -55.027 | | 235 | -- | Campbell | -15.634 | 218 | -39.743 | 242 | -55.377 | | 236 | -- | Delaware State | -21.787 | 233 | -33.599 | 233 | -55.386 | | 237 | -- | Butler | -17.387 | 222 | -39.642 | 241 | -57.030 | | 238 | -- | Drake | -21.985 | 234 | -35.981 | 237 | -57.966 | | 239 | -- | Incarnate Word | -19.322 | 227 | -39.058 | 240 | -58.380 | | 240 | -- | Miss. Valley St. | -21.776 | 232 | -38.942 | 239 | -60.718 | | 241 | -- | Cornell | -27.520 | 245 | -34.042 | 235 | -61.562 | | 242 | -- | Robert Morris | -23.572 | 239 | -39.770 | 243 | -63.342 | | 243 | -- | UAPB | -24.024 | 241 | -40.876 | 244 | -64.900 | | 244 | -- | Marist | -28.473 | 247 | -37.249 | 238 | -65.723 | | 245 | -- | Nicholls State | -23.415 | 238 | -43.735 | 246 | -67.150 | | 246 | -- | Morehead State | -22.301 | 235 | -45.337 | 248 | -67.639 | | 247 | -- | Houston Baptist | -30.825 | 251 | -42.898 | 245 | -73.723 | | 248 | -- | Valparaiso | -30.482 | 250 | -43.996 | 247 | -74.478 | | 249 | -- | Columbia | -28.829 | 248 | -47.579 | 250 | -76.408 | | 250 | -- | Stetson | -25.746 | 244 | -50.992 | 252 | -76.738 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | -- | -- | Non-Division I | -28.263 | -- | -49.041 | -- | -77.304 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | 251 | -- | Savannah State | -30.459 | 249 | -48.047 | 251 | -78.505 | | 252 | -- | Davidson | -33.037 | 252 | -47.471 | 249 | -80.508 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+
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Basil Hayden posted:Hayden Matrix Rankings, Week Eight The computers presumably don't know that conferences are a thing (mine doesn't), so the SEC's dominance of our polls in what is notionally a down year is pretty impressive. Below, both #1-4 and 9 of the top 25 are SEC. Florida State is a not-terribly-impressive #8 due to its relatively close wins for a team with their record and slate of opponents. #6 Marshall is still a bit of an odd quirk, but they're undefeated and blowing out their cupcakes by margins that you'd expect a good team to do. code:
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Captain von Trapp posted:The computers presumably don't know that conferences are a thing (mine doesn't), so the SEC's dominance of our polls in what is notionally a down year is pretty impressive. (Also, "notionally a down year"?)
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Basil Hayden posted:Computer ranking systems generally don't know what conferences are, but they do know who played who (usually, I don't remember how you said yours works), which tends to have a similar result. Right, it knows who played who, so underlying graph structures will tend to have an effect. That's probably why Marshall's doing so well in mine - it's king of its local subgraph which happens to be full of terrible teams and only loosely coupled to better subgraphs. After the NCG last year and the collapse of the East early this season there was a fair bit of chatter that the SEC was finally reverting to something less dominant. But at this point we're probably back to the status quo.
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I'm on vacation so likely no poll this week.
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I lied. Thoughts - 1. Ole Miss lapping the field is part having played more games and part that #1 scoring defense. 2. My poll had a crush on Stanford and now it's over. 3. The Temple/ECU situation has finally fixed itself. And look at Georgia Southern lurking just below the top 25. 4. SMU doesn't sink to the bottom due to their #2 strength of schedule, while their peers sit in the 90s. Auburn is #1. pre:LW Rank Team Name Record Score 1 1 Ole Miss 7-0 2.8217 1. SEC 2 2 Mississippi State 6-0 2.2341 2. Pac 12 6 3 Alabama 6-1 2.2335 3. Big 10 3 4 Auburn 5-1 1.9017 4. ACC 4 5 Georgia 6-1 1.7807 5. Big 12 15 6 Ohio State 5-1 1.7246 6. MWC 13 7 Oregon 6-1 1.7120 7. Conf USA 12 8 TCU 5-1 1.6976 8. American 8 9 Marshall 7-0 1.6856 9. MAC 10 10 Florida State 7-0 1.6235 10. Sun Belt 9 11 Michigan State 6-1 1.6150 14 12 LSU 6-2 1.5672 Floaters - 5 13 Notre Dame 6-1 1.4797 1. +22 - Texas Tech 7 14 Baylor 6-1 1.4090 2. +20 - FL Atlantic, Houston, Maryland 19 15 Nebraska 6-1 1.3531 3. +19 - LA-Lafayette, Missouri 21 16 Clemson 5-2 1.2863 4. +18 - South Carolina, W. Virginia 17 17 Duke 6-1 1.2732 16 18 Arizona 5-1 1.2508 Sinkers - 25 19 USC 5-2 1.2257 4. -17 - Oklahoma State 20 20 Louisville 6-2 1.1913 3. -18 - Stanford, Arkansas 11 21 Oklahoma 5-2 1.1696 2. -19 - Florida International, Texas A&M NR 22 Kansas State 5-1 1.1262 1. -23 - Florida, Tennessee NR 23 Minnesota 6-1 1.0082 NR 24 Utah 5-1 0.9838 NR 25 East Carolina 5-1 0.9711 pre:Rank Team Record Score 26 Arizona State 5-1 0.9702 27 Georgia Southern 5-2 0.8971 28 Colorado State 6-1 0.8956 29 Boise State 5-2 0.8855 30 UCLA 5-2 0.8684 31 Wisconsin 4-2 0.8340 32 West Virginia 5-2 0.8187 33 Kentucky 5-2 0.8123 34 Missouri 5-2 0.8120 35 Georgia Tech 5-2 0.7296 36 Penn State 4-2 0.6890 37 Washington 5-2 0.6681 38 Temple 4-2 0.6676 39 Virginia 4-3 0.6332 40 Texas A&M 5-3 0.6296 41 Maryland 5-2 0.6062 42 Boston College 4-3 0.5928 43 Virginia Tech 4-3 0.5902 44 Air Force 5-2 0.5829 45 Iowa 5-2 0.5806 46 Memphis 3-3 0.5686 47 Houston 4-3 0.5477 48 South Alabama 4-2 0.5436 49 Pittsburgh 4-3 0.5417 50 Northern Illinois 5-2 0.5282 51 Oregon State 4-2 0.5270 52 Oklahoma State 5-2 0.5038 53 Arkansas State 4-2 0.4900 54 Miami (FL) 4-3 0.4844 55 Middle Tennessee 5-3 0.4670 56 Utah State 4-3 0.4543 57 Akron 4-3 0.4253 58 Rutgers 5-2 0.4152 59 UCF 4-2 0.3694 60 BYU 4-3 0.3575 61 South Carolina 4-3 0.3521 62 Nevada 4-3 0.3157 63 Louisiana Tech 4-3 0.2892 64 Western Michigan 4-3 0.2842 65 San Diego State 4-3 0.2708 66 UAB 4-3 0.2624 67 Stanford 4-3 0.2410 68 Florida 3-3 0.2199 69 Bowling Green 5-3 0.1784 70 California 4-3 0.1653 71 Toledo 4-3 0.1630 72 Rice 3-3 0.0960 73 Arkansas 3-4 0.0950 74 Texas State 3-3 0.0944 75 NC State 4-4 0.0641 76 Northwestern 3-4 0.0400 77 San Jose State 3-3 0.0361 78 Syracuse 3-4 0.0325 79 Cincinnati 3-3 0.0215 80 Central Michigan 4-4 0.0086 81 UTEP 3-3 -0.0190 82 Tennessee 3-4 -0.0224 83 Louisiana-Monroe 3-3 -0.0348 84 Texas 3-4 -0.0394 85 Texas Tech 3-4 -0.0629 86 Navy 3-4 -0.0848 87 Louisiana-Lafayette 3-3 -0.0929 88 North Carolina 3-4 -0.0949 89 Indiana 3-4 -0.0960 90 Buffalo 3-4 -0.1059 91 Florida Atlantic 3-4 -0.1171 92 Ohio U 4-4 -0.1187 93 Michigan 3-4 -0.1401 94 Western Kentucky 2-4 -0.1411 95 Old Dominion 3-4 -0.1559 96 Southern Miss 3-4 -0.2069 97 Wyoming 3-4 -0.2156 98 South Florida 3-4 -0.2231 99 Florida International 3-5 -0.2284 100 Purdue 3-5 -0.2505 101 Illinois 3-4 -0.2655 102 Colorado 2-5 -0.2776 103 Washington State 2-5 -0.2841 104 Fresno State 3-5 -0.3094 105 UTSA 2-5 -0.3239 106 Appalachian State 2-5 -0.3575 107 Tulane 2-5 -0.3975 108 New Mexico 2-5 -0.4165 109 Kansas 2-5 -0.4170 110 Vanderbilt 2-5 -0.4253 111 Iowa State 2-5 -0.4299 112 Hawaii 2-5 -0.4496 113 North Texas 2-5 -0.4811 114 Ball State 2-5 -0.4881 115 Wake Forest 2-5 -0.5395 116 UNLV 2-5 -0.5921 117 Idaho 1-6 -0.5995 pre:"Rank" "Team" Bad Record Score 118 Tulsa 1-6 -0.6044 119 Kent State 1-6 -0.6285 120 Army 2-5 -0.6343 121 Massachusetts 2-6 -0.6867 122 SMU 0-6 -0.7824 124 Eastern Michigan 2-5 -0.8189 125 Troy 1-6 -0.8269 126 New Mexico State 2-6 -0.8281 127 Georgia State 1-6 -0.8489 128 Miami (OH) 1-7 -0.8964
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Hayden Matrix Rankings, Week Nine The SEC continues to monopolize the top of the poll, and Auburn continues to be ranked #1 over Mississippi State somehow. Florida State remains stuck in hell, and is actually behind Notre Dame now (?!). God I really hope the SEC West sorts itself out soon and these rankings stop looking quite so silly. pre:+------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | Rank | FBS | Team | Wins | Rk | Pts | Rk | Rating | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | 1 | 1 | Auburn | 33.129 | 2 | 49.318 | 2 | 82.448 | | 2 | 2 | Mississippi St. | 34.556 | 1 | 45.944 | 5 | 80.501 | | 3 | 3 | Alabama | 29.876 | 4 | 50.556 | 1 | 80.432 | | 4 | 4 | Ole Miss | 30.880 | 3 | 49.296 | 3 | 80.176 | | 5 | 5 | TCU | 25.681 | 10 | 47.684 | 4 | 73.365 | | 6 | 6 | Georgia | 25.659 | 11 | 45.413 | 6 | 71.072 | | 7 | 7 | LSU | 25.514 | 12 | 41.392 | 8 | 66.906 | | 8 | 8 | Oklahoma | 23.401 | 17 | 43.220 | 7 | 66.621 | | 9 | 9 | Kansas State | 27.021 | 6 | 38.588 | 10 | 65.609 | | 10 | 10 | Oregon | 26.908 | 7 | 36.876 | 12 | 63.784 | | 11 | 11 | Michigan State | 24.590 | 13 | 38.535 | 11 | 63.125 | | 12 | 12 | Clemson | 26.549 | 8 | 35.513 | 17 | 62.063 | | 13 | 13 | Baylor | 21.406 | 23 | 39.656 | 9 | 61.061 | | 14 | 14 | Notre Dame | 26.535 | 9 | 34.197 | 19 | 60.732 | | 15 | 15 | Nebraska | 24.425 | 14 | 35.994 | 14 | 60.419 | | 16 | 16 | Florida State | 27.276 | 5 | 32.215 | 22 | 59.491 | | 17 | 17 | West Virginia | 23.619 | 16 | 33.601 | 20 | 57.219 | | 18 | 18 | Ohio State | 18.335 | 26 | 36.358 | 13 | 54.693 | | 19 | 19 | Wisconsin | 17.657 | 29 | 35.669 | 16 | 53.326 | | 20 | 20 | Arizona | 23.931 | 15 | 28.573 | 29 | 52.504 | | 21 | 21 | Texas A&M | 17.657 | 30 | 34.569 | 18 | 52.226 | | 22 | 22 | USC | 20.984 | 25 | 30.961 | 23 | 51.945 | | 23 | 23 | Arkansas | 15.747 | 40 | 35.936 | 15 | 51.683 | | 24 | 24 | UCLA | 21.997 | 21 | 29.139 | 26 | 51.136 | | 25 | 25 | Utah | 21.990 | 22 | 28.955 | 27 | 50.945 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | 26 | 26 | Missouri | 21.243 | 24 | 28.477 | 30 | 49.720 | | 27 | 27 | Arizona State | 22.603 | 18 | 26.127 | 35 | 48.730 | | 28 | 28 | Louisville | 16.383 | 34 | 30.303 | 24 | 46.686 | | 29 | 29 | Tennessee | 13.359 | 52 | 32.554 | 21 | 45.913 | | 30 | 30 | Marshall | 15.963 | 38 | 28.895 | 28 | 44.859 | | 31 | 31 | Boise State | 22.197 | 19 | 22.465 | 42 | 44.663 | | 32 | 32 | Stanford | 15.499 | 41 | 27.413 | 31 | 42.912 | | 33 | 33 | Florida | 13.466 | 51 | 29.165 | 25 | 42.631 | | 34 | 34 | Kentucky | 17.678 | 28 | 24.859 | 37 | 42.537 | | 35 | 35 | South Carolina | 15.769 | 39 | 26.271 | 34 | 42.040 | | 36 | 36 | Duke | 16.347 | 35 | 25.280 | 36 | 41.627 | | 37 | 37 | Georgia Tech | 17.514 | 32 | 23.902 | 38 | 41.416 | | 38 | 38 | Minnesota | 18.251 | 27 | 22.861 | 39 | 41.112 | | 39 | 39 | U. of Miami | 14.756 | 43 | 26.282 | 33 | 41.038 | | 40 | 40 | Oklahoma State | 17.630 | 31 | 22.487 | 41 | 40.117 | | 41 | 41 | Colorado State | 22.045 | 20 | 17.825 | 61 | 39.870 | | 42 | 42 | Maryland | 16.744 | 33 | 21.539 | 44 | 38.283 | | 43 | 43 | Memphis | 9.985 | 64 | 26.769 | 32 | 36.754 | | 44 | 44 | East Carolina | 16.141 | 37 | 20.093 | 52 | 36.235 | | 45 | 45 | Iowa | 14.715 | 45 | 20.926 | 47 | 35.641 | | 46 | 46 | Louisiana Tech | 13.842 | 50 | 21.346 | 45 | 35.188 | | 47 | 47 | Washington | 14.776 | 42 | 20.078 | 53 | 34.853 | | 48 | 48 | Virginia Tech | 11.636 | 59 | 22.504 | 40 | 34.139 | | 49 | 49 | Boston College | 13.212 | 53 | 20.783 | 49 | 33.995 | | 50 | 50 | Penn State | 12.662 | 56 | 21.309 | 46 | 33.972 | | 51 | -- | North Dakota St. | 14.296 | 47 | 19.647 | 55 | 33.943 | | 52 | -- | Illinois State | 14.720 | 44 | 19.144 | 56 | 33.865 | | 53 | 51 | BYU | 12.536 | 57 | 19.654 | 54 | 32.190 | | 54 | 52 | Virginia | 9.391 | 69 | 22.220 | 43 | 31.611 | | 55 | 53 | UCF | 12.853 | 55 | 17.817 | 62 | 30.670 | | 56 | 54 | Northwestern | 9.734 | 66 | 20.894 | 48 | 30.628 | | 57 | 55 | Nevada | 14.427 | 46 | 16.129 | 67 | 30.556 | | 58 | 56 | Oregon State | 16.188 | 36 | 14.137 | 74 | 30.326 | | 59 | 57 | North Carolina | 14.251 | 48 | 15.781 | 70 | 30.032 | | 60 | 58 | Utah State | 14.109 | 49 | 15.401 | 71 | 29.510 | | 61 | 59 | Texas Tech | 13.014 | 54 | 16.236 | 65 | 29.250 | | 62 | 60 | Texas | 8.862 | 72 | 20.341 | 51 | 29.203 | | 63 | 61 | California | 10.156 | 63 | 18.788 | 58 | 28.944 | | 64 | 62 | Syracuse | 8.621 | 75 | 18.878 | 57 | 27.499 | | 65 | 63 | NC State | 11.313 | 60 | 16.172 | 66 | 27.486 | | 66 | 64 | Ga. Southern | 5.099 | 96 | 20.433 | 50 | 25.532 | | 67 | 65 | Pittsburgh | 6.674 | 88 | 18.649 | 59 | 25.324 | | 68 | 66 | Purdue | 8.969 | 71 | 16.116 | 68 | 25.085 | | 69 | 67 | Iowa State | 7.830 | 82 | 17.000 | 64 | 24.831 | | 70 | 68 | Michigan | 7.517 | 84 | 17.090 | 63 | 24.607 | | 71 | 69 | Illinois | 11.665 | 58 | 12.754 | 76 | 24.419 | | 72 | 70 | Houston | 6.365 | 90 | 17.856 | 60 | 24.221 | | 73 | 71 | Rutgers | 10.768 | 61 | 12.680 | 77 | 23.447 | | 74 | 72 | Cincinnati | 8.207 | 80 | 14.828 | 73 | 23.035 | | 75 | 73 | Indiana | 9.006 | 70 | 12.603 | 78 | 21.609 | | 76 | 74 | Arkansas State | 6.019 | 92 | 15.101 | 72 | 21.121 | | 77 | 75 | Toledo | 8.591 | 76 | 12.357 | 80 | 20.948 | | 78 | 76 | Colorado | 8.372 | 77 | 12.039 | 82 | 20.411 | | 79 | 77 | Washington St. | 4.320 | 100 | 15.871 | 69 | 20.192 | | 80 | 78 | Western Mich. | 8.226 | 78 | 11.542 | 84 | 19.768 | | 81 | 79 | UL Lafayette | 10.318 | 62 | 9.380 | 89 | 19.697 | | 82 | 80 | Rice | 7.429 | 85 | 11.887 | 83 | 19.316 | | 83 | -- | Villanova | 9.563 | 67 | 8.664 | 91 | 18.227 | | 84 | -- | Indiana State | 7.260 | 86 | 10.792 | 86 | 18.052 | | 85 | 81 | Western Ky. | 4.506 | 99 | 12.409 | 79 | 16.914 | | 86 | 82 | Northern Ill. | 9.482 | 68 | 7.315 | 93 | 16.797 | | 87 | 83 | UTEP | 8.744 | 73 | 7.683 | 92 | 16.427 | | 88 | 84 | UAB | 2.825 | 107 | 13.527 | 75 | 16.352 | | 89 | 85 | Middle Tenn. | 5.282 | 95 | 11.066 | 85 | 16.347 | | 90 | 86 | Air Force | 9.979 | 65 | 5.774 | 101 | 15.753 | | 91 | 87 | South Alabama | 6.177 | 91 | 8.741 | 90 | 14.918 | | 92 | 88 | San Diego State | 6.802 | 87 | 7.209 | 94 | 14.011 | | 93 | 89 | Navy | 3.265 | 105 | 10.244 | 87 | 13.509 | | 94 | 90 | Fresno State | 7.603 | 83 | 5.665 | 104 | 13.268 | | 95 | 91 | Temple | 0.904 | 116 | 12.224 | 81 | 13.129 | | 96 | 92 | Central Mich. | 5.762 | 93 | 7.123 | 95 | 12.885 | | 97 | 93 | Wyoming | 8.691 | 74 | 2.289 | 119 | 10.980 | | 98 | -- | New Hampshire | 8.218 | 79 | 2.573 | 117 | 10.791 | | 99 | -- | Youngstown St. | 6.476 | 89 | 3.955 | 113 | 10.431 | | 100 | -- | Coastal Caro. | 8.061 | 81 | 2.122 | 122 | 10.183 | | 101 | 94 | FAU | 4.603 | 98 | 5.122 | 107 | 9.726 | | 102 | 95 | San Jose State | 3.275 | 104 | 5.751 | 102 | 9.026 | | 103 | 96 | Southern Miss | 4.262 | 101 | 4.203 | 112 | 8.465 | | 104 | -- | South Dakota St. | 4.938 | 97 | 3.502 | 114 | 8.440 | | 105 | 97 | Vanderbilt | 2.718 | 108 | 5.684 | 103 | 8.402 | | 106 | 98 | Kansas | 2.902 | 106 | 5.402 | 105 | 8.304 | | 107 | -- | UNI | -2.148 | 142 | 9.550 | 88 | 7.401 | | 108 | 99 | Bowling Green | 5.455 | 94 | 1.883 | 124 | 7.338 | | 109 | -- | Missouri State | 2.687 | 109 | 4.384 | 110 | 7.071 | | 110 | -- | Southeastern La. | 0.900 | 117 | 6.138 | 99 | 7.038 | | 111 | 100 | Hawaii | -0.301 | 125 | 7.040 | 96 | 6.739 | | 112 | -- | Chattanooga | 1.936 | 111 | 4.279 | 111 | 6.215 | | 113 | 101 | Akron | -0.822 | 130 | 7.034 | 98 | 6.212 | | 114 | 102 | FIU | -1.437 | 134 | 7.037 | 97 | 5.600 | | 115 | -- | Southern Ill. | 0.477 | 120 | 4.993 | 108 | 5.470 | | 116 | 103 | South Florida | 2.039 | 110 | 2.897 | 115 | 4.936 | | 117 | 104 | UTSA | -0.441 | 126 | 5.372 | 106 | 4.931 | | 118 | -- | Jacksonville St. | 3.430 | 103 | 1.160 | 129 | 4.590 | | 119 | 105 | Ball State | -1.776 | 138 | 6.021 | 100 | 4.245 | | 120 | 106 | Tulane | 0.924 | 115 | 2.749 | 116 | 3.674 | | 121 | -- | Eastern Wash. | 4.157 | 102 | -1.965 | 140 | 2.192 | | 122 | -- | Eastern Ill. | -3.063 | 147 | 4.535 | 109 | 1.473 | | 123 | 107 | Ohio | 0.625 | 118 | 0.387 | 130 | 1.013 | | 124 | -- | Fordham | -0.467 | 127 | 1.411 | 126 | 0.943 | | 125 | 108 | ULM | 0.242 | 122 | 0.349 | 131 | 0.591 | | 126 | 109 | Texas State | -1.736 | 137 | 1.949 | 123 | 0.213 | | 127 | 110 | New Mexico | -0.262 | 124 | -0.126 | 133 | -0.387 | | 128 | -- | Central Ark. | -2.879 | 146 | 2.323 | 118 | -0.556 | | 129 | 111 | Wake Forest | -2.137 | 141 | 1.471 | 125 | -0.666 | | 130 | -- | Montana State | 0.306 | 121 | -1.846 | 138 | -1.540 | | 131 | -- | Samford | -3.927 | 153 | 2.231 | 120 | -1.697 | | 132 | -- | Richmond | -1.179 | 132 | -1.448 | 136 | -2.627 | | 133 | -- | Northwestern St. | 0.578 | 119 | -3.482 | 143 | -2.904 | | 134 | 112 | Old Dominion | -1.555 | 135 | -1.736 | 137 | -3.291 | | 135 | -- | McNeese State | -3.735 | 150 | 0.017 | 132 | -3.718 | | 136 | -- | Western Ill. | -5.258 | 161 | 1.321 | 127 | -3.937 | | 137 | -- | Harvard | -1.249 | 133 | -2.701 | 141 | -3.950 | | 138 | 113 | Appalachian St. | -6.883 | 170 | 2.146 | 121 | -4.737 | | 139 | -- | Liberty | -0.558 | 129 | -4.389 | 146 | -4.947 | | 140 | -- | Eastern Ky. | -1.091 | 131 | -3.881 | 144 | -4.972 | | 141 | -- | Alcorn State | -3.810 | 152 | -1.388 | 135 | -5.198 | | 142 | -- | Idaho State | -1.622 | 136 | -4.180 | 145 | -5.802 | | 143 | -- | James Madison | 1.487 | 113 | -7.619 | 157 | -6.133 | | 144 | 114 | Massachusetts | -8.222 | 177 | 1.294 | 128 | -6.928 | | 145 | 115 | North Texas | -7.726 | 175 | -0.930 | 134 | -8.656 | | 146 | -- | Stephen F. Austin | -2.015 | 140 | -6.681 | 154 | -8.696 | | 147 | -- | Cal Poly | -3.096 | 148 | -6.429 | 152 | -9.525 | | 148 | -- | Bryant | 1.433 | 114 | -11.187 | 166 | -9.754 | | 149 | 116 | Connecticut | -7.153 | 171 | -2.999 | 142 | -10.152 | | 150 | -- | William & Mary | -2.814 | 145 | -7.579 | 156 | -10.392 | | 151 | 117 | Tulsa | -6.286 | 166 | -4.573 | 147 | -10.859 | | 152 | -- | Montana | -2.335 | 143 | -8.611 | 161 | -10.946 | | 153 | 118 | Army | -6.104 | 164 | -5.136 | 150 | -11.239 | | 154 | 119 | Miami U. | -9.306 | 184 | -1.964 | 139 | -11.269 | | 155 | 120 | Buffalo | -6.724 | 169 | -4.649 | 148 | -11.374 | | 156 | -- | Western Caro. | -1.841 | 139 | -9.553 | 163 | -11.393 | | 157 | -- | Presbyterian | 1.505 | 112 | -14.030 | 177 | -12.525 | | 158 | -- | Sam Houston St. | -4.521 | 156 | -8.174 | 158 | -12.694 | | 159 | -- | Yale | -4.667 | 157 | -8.492 | 160 | -13.160 | | 160 | -- | SC State | -0.500 | 128 | -13.438 | 174 | -13.938 | | 161 | -- | NC A&T | -4.964 | 158 | -9.382 | 162 | -14.346 | | 162 | -- | Southeast Mo. | -7.214 | 172 | -7.253 | 155 | -14.466 | | 163 | 121 | UNLV | -5.016 | 159 | -9.989 | 164 | -15.005 | | 164 | 122 | New Mexico St. | -9.644 | 186 | -5.900 | 151 | -15.545 | | 165 | -- | Albany | -4.292 | 155 | -11.844 | 171 | -16.136 | | 166 | -- | Bethune-Cookman | -3.137 | 149 | -13.549 | 175 | -16.687 | | 167 | 123 | Idaho | -12.456 | 197 | -4.786 | 149 | -17.241 | | 168 | -- | Dartmouth | -0.203 | 123 | -17.057 | 191 | -17.261 | | 169 | -- | Lamar | -6.051 | 163 | -11.436 | 169 | -17.487 | | 170 | -- | Wofford | -6.519 | 168 | -11.460 | 170 | -17.979 | | 171 | -- | Northern Ariz. | -4.086 | 154 | -14.048 | 178 | -18.134 | | 172 | 124 | Kent State | -11.880 | 193 | -6.598 | 153 | -18.478 | | 173 | 125 | Georgia State | -10.953 | 189 | -8.411 | 159 | -19.364 | | 174 | -- | UT Martin | -9.172 | 183 | -11.323 | 168 | -20.495 | | 175 | -- | Bucknell | -3.783 | 151 | -17.155 | 192 | -20.938 | | 176 | 126 | SMU | -6.186 | 165 | -14.904 | 182 | -21.090 | | 177 | -- | Jacksonville | -2.339 | 144 | -19.391 | 201 | -21.730 | | 178 | -- | Sacred Heart | -6.352 | 167 | -15.866 | 190 | -22.217 | | 179 | 127 | Troy | -11.954 | 194 | -10.542 | 165 | -22.495 | | 180 | -- | Stony Brook | -8.632 | 179 | -14.074 | 179 | -22.706 | | 181 | -- | Charleston So. | -8.900 | 182 | -14.008 | 176 | -22.908 | | 182 | 128 | Eastern Mich. | -7.639 | 174 | -15.849 | 189 | -23.488 | | 183 | -- | Sacramento St. | -9.554 | 185 | -14.165 | 180 | -23.719 | | 184 | -- | Monmouth | -8.690 | 180 | -15.127 | 183 | -23.817 | | 185 | -- | South Dakota | -8.617 | 178 | -15.266 | 186 | -23.882 | | 186 | -- | Citadel | -12.994 | 200 | -11.214 | 167 | -24.208 | | 187 | -- | Grambling State | -5.503 | 162 | -18.853 | 199 | -24.356 | | 188 | -- | Duquesne | -8.752 | 181 | -15.657 | 188 | -24.409 | | 189 | -- | Furman | -8.073 | 176 | -17.245 | 193 | -25.318 | | 190 | -- | Southern Utah | -11.060 | 191 | -15.150 | 184 | -26.211 | | 191 | -- | Abilene Christian | -14.935 | 212 | -11.892 | 172 | -26.827 | | 192 | -- | Tennessee State | -15.148 | 213 | -12.073 | 173 | -27.221 | | 193 | -- | Murray State | -12.941 | 198 | -15.150 | 185 | -28.091 | | 194 | -- | Charlotte | -13.896 | 206 | -14.281 | 181 | -28.177 | | 195 | -- | Saint Francis | -11.016 | 190 | -17.395 | 194 | -28.411 | | 196 | -- | Mercer | -12.053 | 195 | -17.537 | 195 | -29.590 | | 197 | -- | Maine | -9.984 | 187 | -19.623 | 202 | -29.607 | | 198 | -- | Southern | -7.262 | 173 | -23.089 | 215 | -30.351 | | 199 | -- | Colgate | -13.362 | 201 | -18.470 | 198 | -31.832 | | 200 | -- | Alabama State | -13.905 | 207 | -18.109 | 197 | -32.014 | | 201 | -- | Delaware | -10.815 | 188 | -21.211 | 206 | -32.026 | | 202 | -- | Portland State | -12.173 | 196 | -20.441 | 204 | -32.614 | | 203 | -- | North Dakota | -11.349 | 192 | -21.593 | 208 | -32.942 | | 204 | -- | Holy Cross | -14.746 | 210 | -18.936 | 200 | -33.682 | | 205 | -- | Lafayette | -15.999 | 218 | -17.684 | 196 | -33.683 | | 206 | -- | Weber State | -19.323 | 226 | -15.617 | 187 | -34.940 | | 207 | -- | Morgan State | -14.380 | 208 | -20.753 | 205 | -35.132 | | 208 | -- | NC Central | -13.549 | 202 | -21.896 | 209 | -35.444 | | 209 | -- | Tennessee Tech | -14.413 | 209 | -21.230 | 207 | -35.643 | | 210 | -- | Wagner | -15.895 | 217 | -20.021 | 203 | -35.916 | | 211 | -- | Gardner-Webb | -13.889 | 205 | -22.028 | 211 | -35.917 | | 212 | -- | San Diego | -5.071 | 160 | -30.969 | 232 | -36.039 | | 213 | -- | UC Davis | -13.782 | 204 | -22.934 | 214 | -36.716 | | 214 | -- | Elon | -15.285 | 214 | -22.053 | 212 | -37.337 | | 215 | -- | Northern Colo. | -15.511 | 215 | -22.686 | 213 | -38.197 | | 216 | -- | Towson | -12.967 | 199 | -25.291 | 219 | -38.258 | | 217 | -- | Prairie View | -16.576 | 221 | -22.012 | 210 | -38.588 | | 218 | -- | Texas Southern | -13.620 | 203 | -27.174 | 223 | -40.794 | | 219 | -- | Princeton | -17.121 | 223 | -23.736 | 218 | -40.857 | | 220 | -- | Lehigh | -19.135 | 225 | -23.136 | 216 | -42.271 | | 221 | -- | Norfolk State | -16.144 | 219 | -27.251 | 224 | -43.395 | | 222 | -- | Dayton | -14.901 | 211 | -28.696 | 227 | -43.598 | | 223 | -- | Brown | -21.567 | 235 | -23.286 | 217 | -44.853 | | 224 | -- | Alabama A&M | -16.372 | 220 | -28.703 | 228 | -45.075 | | 225 | -- | Penn | -17.044 | 222 | -28.616 | 226 | -45.660 | | 226 | -- | Hampton | -19.570 | 229 | -27.151 | 222 | -46.721 | | 227 | -- | CCSU | -22.719 | 237 | -27.044 | 221 | -49.763 | | 228 | -- | Georgetown | -23.615 | 239 | -27.020 | 220 | -50.635 | | 229 | -- | Austin Peay | -15.887 | 216 | -34.895 | 234 | -50.782 | | 230 | -- | VMI | -19.911 | 231 | -31.190 | 233 | -51.101 | | 231 | -- | Florida A&M | -20.954 | 233 | -30.657 | 230 | -51.611 | | 232 | -- | Howard | -23.780 | 240 | -28.180 | 225 | -51.960 | | 233 | -- | Jackson State | -24.016 | 241 | -29.869 | 229 | -53.885 | | 234 | -- | Rhode Island | -23.571 | 238 | -30.784 | 231 | -54.356 | | 235 | -- | Drake | -19.348 | 227 | -35.715 | 235 | -55.063 | | 236 | -- | Incarnate Word | -19.553 | 228 | -36.437 | 236 | -55.990 | | 237 | -- | UAPB | -18.900 | 224 | -38.723 | 241 | -57.623 | | 238 | -- | Butler | -19.876 | 230 | -38.262 | 240 | -58.139 | | 239 | -- | Campbell | -20.249 | 232 | -40.515 | 243 | -60.764 | | 240 | -- | Delaware State | -24.669 | 244 | -36.460 | 237 | -61.129 | | 241 | -- | Miss. Valley St. | -22.289 | 236 | -39.628 | 242 | -61.917 | | 242 | -- | Marist | -25.218 | 246 | -37.148 | 239 | -62.366 | | 243 | -- | Robert Morris | -24.386 | 242 | -41.760 | 245 | -66.145 | | 244 | -- | Cornell | -29.863 | 250 | -36.540 | 238 | -66.403 | | 245 | -- | Morehead State | -21.472 | 234 | -45.157 | 247 | -66.628 | | 246 | -- | Houston Baptist | -26.540 | 247 | -41.081 | 244 | -67.621 | | 247 | -- | Nicholls State | -24.904 | 245 | -44.444 | 246 | -69.347 | | 248 | -- | Stetson | -24.431 | 243 | -48.634 | 250 | -73.064 | | 249 | -- | Columbia | -27.206 | 248 | -46.828 | 248 | -74.034 | | 250 | -- | Valparaiso | -31.482 | 251 | -44.245 | 245 | -75.727 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | -- | -- | Non-Division I | -27.788 | -- | -48.915 | -- | -76.703 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | 251 | -- | Savannah State | -31.219 | 251 | -48.404 | 249 | -79.622 | | 252 | -- | Davidson | -34.270 | 252 | -49.164 | 252 | -83.433 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+
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Interestingly, Ole Miss dropped only one spot, and that was more a function of Mississippi State gaining ground. LSU however, moved up quite a bit. Florida State's still unimpressive in both this poll and Hayden's, which is satisfying. At this point I'm going to quit apologizing on behalf of the poll for Marshall. They might actually be good. Maybe not #7 in the country good, but legit. code:
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This is the week my moon poll gets moony. 1. Ole Miss remains #1 since even with the loss they're still the #1 scoring defense and still feature a top 10 strength of schedule. A second loss might not even bump them off the top 5 due to the strength of Auburn. 2. Florida State loses ground to TCU and Michigan State. Not sure why MSU did so. 3. It is what it is with Marshall. 4. Is SMU the worst team in the country? Absolutely. Why is SMU not dead last? #1 strength of schedule. 5. Look who shows up at 25. pre:LW Rank Team Record Final Score 1 1 Ole Miss 7-1 2.6645 2 2 Mississippi State 7-0 2.3199 3 3 Alabama 7-1 2.0918 4 4 Auburn 6-1 1.9647 12 5 LSU 7-2 1.8629 7 6 Oregon 7-1 1.7997 9 7 Marshall 8-0 1.7436 11 8 Michigan State 7-1 1.7324 8 9 TCU 6-1 1.7151 5 10 Georgia 6-1 1.6891 6 11 Ohio State 6-1 1.5856 10 12 Florida State 7-0 1.5546 15 13 Nebraska 7-1 1.5210 13 14 Notre Dame 6-1 1.4960 16 15 Clemson 6-2 1.4410 14 16 Baylor 6-1 1.3750 17 17 Duke 6-1 1.2732 22 18 Kansas State 6-1 1.2611 18 19 Arizona 6-1 1.2464 NR 20 Arizona State 6-1 1.2030 20 21 Louisville 6-2 1.1827 NR 22 Wisconsin 5-2 1.1599 24 23 Utah 6-1 1.1563 21 24 Oklahoma 5-2 1.1462 NR 25 Boise State 6-2 1.1001 pre:Rank Team Record Final Score 26 Georgia Southern 6-2 1.0533 27 Colorado State 7-1 1.0456 28 Georgia Tech 6-2 1.0380 29 East Carolina 6-1 1.0316 30 UCLA 6-2 1.0191 31 USC 5-3 1.0059 32 Missouri 6-2 0.9788 33 West Virginia 6-2 0.9472 34 Memphis 4-3 0.8038 35 Miami (FL) 5-3 0.8011 36 Minnesota 6-2 0.7851 37 Stanford 5-3 0.7608 38 Kentucky 5-3 0.6710 39 UCF 5-2 0.6691 40 Boston College 5-3 0.6597 41 Northern Illinois 6-2 0.6410 42 Texas A&M 5-3 0.6232 43 Utah State 5-3 0.5934 44 Air Force 5-2 0.5829 45 South Alabama 5-2 0.5781 46 Iowa 5-2 0.5664 47 Houston 4-3 0.5275 48 Washington 5-3 0.5203 49 Nevada 5-3 0.4859 50 Middle Tennessee 5-3 0.4618 51 Louisiana Tech 5-3 0.4298 52 Western Michigan 5-3 0.4219 53 Penn State 4-3 0.4118 54 Temple 4-3 0.3504 55 Arkansas 4-4 0.3459 56 Virginia 4-4 0.3358 57 Oregon State 4-3 0.3216 58 Rice 4-3 0.2948 59 Maryland 5-3 0.2940 60 Toledo 5-3 0.2896 61 Oklahoma State 5-3 0.2748 62 Rutgers 5-3 0.2688 63 San Diego State 4-3 0.2680 64 Cincinnati 4-3 0.2651 65 Arkansas State 4-3 0.2501 66 Florida 3-3 0.2199 67 UTEP 4-3 0.2172 68 Texas State 4-3 0.2142 69 Virginia Tech 4-4 0.1933 70 Bowling Green 5-3 0.1775 71 Pittsburgh 4-4 0.1300 72 Central Michigan 5-4 0.1286 73 Akron 4-4 0.1168 74 South Carolina 4-4 0.0814 75 NC State 4-4 0.0641 76 Louisiana-Lafayette 4-3 0.0514 77 Northwestern 3-4 0.0397 78 Navy 4-4 0.0262 79 UAB 4-4 0.0137 80 BYU 4-4 0.0130 81 North Carolina 4-4 -0.0057 82 California 4-4 -0.0170 83 Western Kentucky 3-4 -0.0294 84 Indiana 3-4 -0.0954 85 Syracuse 3-5 -0.1051 86 Illinois 4-4 -0.1210 87 Tennessee 3-5 -0.1360 88 San Jose State 3-4 -0.1567 89 Louisiana-Monroe 3-4 -0.1823 90 Texas 3-5 -0.1883 91 Ball State 3-5 -0.2190 92 Florida International 3-5 -0.2407 93 Purdue 3-5 -0.2417 94 Ohio U 4-5 -0.2694 95 Old Dominion 3-5 -0.2775 96 Michigan 3-5 -0.2782 97 Buffalo 3-5 -0.2941 98 Florida Atlantic 3-5 -0.2972 99 Fresno State 3-5 -0.3020 100 Southern Miss 3-5 -0.3062 101 Wyoming 3-5 -0.3086 102 Texas Tech 3-5 -0.3605 103 Washington State 2-6 -0.3612 104 Tulane 2-5 -0.3881 105 Kansas 2-5 -0.3979 106 South Florida 3-5 -0.4055 107 New Mexico 2-5 -0.4120 108 Colorado 2-6 -0.4219 109 Iowa State 2-5 -0.4299 110 Appalachian State 2-5 -0.4572 111 UTSA 2-6 -0.5291 112 Vanderbilt 2-6 -0.5650 113 Idaho 1-6 -0.6031 114 Wake Forest 2-6 -0.6191 115 Hawaii 2-6 -0.6194 116 Army 2-5 -0.6396 117 Tulsa 1-6 -0.6694 118 UNLV 2-6 -0.6739 pre:Rank Basement Dweller Record Bad Score 119 North Texas 2-6 -0.7211 120 Kent State 1-7 -0.7396 121 New Mexico State 2-6 -0.8317 122 Connecticut 1-6 -0.8383 123 Miami (OH) 2-7 -0.8496 124 SMU 0-7 -0.8687 125 Massachusetts 2-7 -0.8760 126 Troy 1-7 -0.9015 127 Eastern Michigan 2-6 -0.9138 128 Georgia State 1-7 -0.9183
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Hayden Matrix Rankings, Week TenBasil Hayden posted:God I really hope the SEC West sorts itself out soon and these rankings stop looking quite so silly. So, yeah. Only change in the top five is that Alabama moved ahead of Mississippi State. Also, Auburn is now #1 in both metrics. ![]() pre:+------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | Rank | FBS | Team | Wins | Rk | Pts | Rk | Rating | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | 1 | 1 | Auburn | 36.626 | 1 | 50.998 | 1 | 87.624 | | 2 | 2 | Alabama | 30.564 | 4 | 50.953 | 2 | 81.517 | | 3 | 3 | Mississippi St. | 35.807 | 2 | 45.301 | 6 | 81.108 | | 4 | 4 | Ole Miss | 31.002 | 3 | 49.324 | 3 | 80.327 | | 5 | 5 | TCU | 28.058 | 8 | 46.466 | 5 | 74.524 | | 6 | 6 | Oklahoma | 25.523 | 14 | 47.226 | 4 | 72.749 | | 7 | 7 | Kansas State | 29.437 | 5 | 41.470 | 9 | 70.907 | | 8 | 8 | LSU | 27.314 | 9 | 43.112 | 7 | 70.426 | | 9 | 9 | Oregon | 29.237 | 6 | 39.322 | 12 | 68.559 | | 10 | 10 | Michigan State | 25.722 | 12 | 39.458 | 11 | 65.180 | | 11 | 11 | Georgia | 23.028 | 20 | 41.881 | 8 | 64.909 | | 12 | 12 | Baylor | 22.203 | 24 | 41.214 | 10 | 63.417 | | 13 | 13 | Florida State | 28.602 | 7 | 32.409 | 21 | 61.011 | | 14 | 14 | Clemson | 26.148 | 11 | 34.659 | 18 | 60.806 | | 15 | 15 | Nebraska | 25.231 | 15 | 35.139 | 17 | 60.370 | | 16 | 16 | Ohio State | 20.200 | 26 | 38.340 | 13 | 58.540 | | 17 | 17 | Notre Dame | 26.454 | 10 | 32.048 | 22 | 58.503 | | 18 | 18 | West Virginia | 22.500 | 23 | 35.185 | 15 | 57.686 | | 19 | 19 | Wisconsin | 19.511 | 27 | 36.362 | 14 | 55.873 | | 20 | 20 | UCLA | 25.542 | 13 | 30.018 | 25 | 55.560 | | 21 | 21 | Florida | 18.227 | 32 | 34.056 | 19 | 52.282 | | 22 | 22 | Missouri | 23.117 | 19 | 29.043 | 26 | 52.160 | | 23 | 23 | USC | 20.894 | 25 | 30.874 | 24 | 51.767 | | 24 | 24 | Arkansas | 15.744 | 41 | 35.158 | 16 | 50.901 | | 25 | 25 | Utah | 22.634 | 21 | 28.023 | 28 | 50.657 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | 26 | 26 | Arizona | 22.587 | 22 | 27.795 | 31 | 50.382 | | 27 | 27 | Texas A&M | 18.276 | 31 | 31.972 | 23 | 50.248 | | 28 | 28 | Arizona State | 23.378 | 17 | 25.730 | 35 | 49.108 | | 29 | 29 | Tennessee | 14.423 | 49 | 33.280 | 20 | 47.703 | | 30 | 30 | Boise State | 24.016 | 16 | 23.204 | 40 | 47.220 | | 31 | 31 | Georgia Tech | 18.584 | 29 | 26.192 | 34 | 44.776 | | 32 | 32 | U. of Miami | 16.525 | 36 | 27.953 | 29 | 44.479 | | 33 | 33 | Louisville | 15.320 | 45 | 28.647 | 27 | 43.967 | | 34 | 34 | Marshall | 15.435 | 43 | 27.852 | 30 | 43.286 | | 35 | 35 | Kentucky | 17.306 | 33 | 25.650 | 36 | 42.955 | | 36 | 36 | Louisiana Tech | 15.752 | 40 | 26.426 | 32 | 42.177 | | 37 | 37 | Colorado State | 23.230 | 18 | 18.324 | 58 | 41.554 | | 38 | 38 | South Carolina | 15.195 | 47 | 26.219 | 33 | 41.413 | | 39 | 39 | Minnesota | 18.800 | 28 | 21.722 | 45 | 40.522 | | 40 | 40 | Maryland | 18.580 | 30 | 21.898 | 44 | 40.478 | | 41 | 41 | Duke | 15.308 | 46 | 24.524 | 39 | 39.832 | | 42 | 42 | Iowa | 16.110 | 39 | 23.204 | 41 | 39.314 | | 43 | 43 | Stanford | 14.395 | 50 | 24.609 | 38 | 39.004 | | 44 | 44 | Oklahoma State | 16.607 | 35 | 20.476 | 49 | 37.083 | | 45 | 45 | Washington | 16.682 | 34 | 20.367 | 51 | 37.049 | | 46 | 46 | Memphis | 11.230 | 59 | 25.487 | 37 | 36.717 | | 47 | 47 | Boston College | 15.400 | 44 | 21.246 | 47 | 36.646 | | 48 | -- | North Dakota St. | 16.362 | 37 | 20.147 | 52 | 36.509 | | 49 | 48 | BYU | 15.167 | 48 | 21.321 | 46 | 36.488 | | 50 | 49 | Texas | 12.497 | 55 | 23.103 | 42 | 35.600 | | 51 | 50 | Utah State | 15.539 | 42 | 17.346 | 60 | 32.885 | | 52 | 51 | Nevada | 16.115 | 38 | 16.745 | 62 | 32.860 | | 53 | 52 | Virginia Tech | 9.557 | 70 | 22.542 | 43 | 32.099 | | 54 | 53 | California | 12.965 | 53 | 18.912 | 56 | 31.878 | | 55 | 54 | Penn State | 10.884 | 63 | 20.461 | 50 | 31.345 | | 56 | 55 | East Carolina | 12.285 | 56 | 18.134 | 59 | 30.419 | | 57 | 56 | NC State | 12.603 | 54 | 16.501 | 63 | 29.104 | | 58 | 57 | Michigan | 9.738 | 68 | 18.732 | 57 | 28.470 | | 59 | 58 | Virginia | 8.693 | 77 | 19.742 | 53 | 28.435 | | 60 | 59 | Houston | 8.882 | 74 | 19.493 | 54 | 28.376 | | 61 | 60 | Pittsburgh | 7.710 | 82 | 19.435 | 55 | 27.146 | | 62 | 61 | Ga. Southern | 5.701 | 92 | 21.133 | 48 | 26.834 | | 63 | 62 | Cincinnati | 10.181 | 66 | 16.230 | 64 | 26.410 | | 64 | -- | Illinois State | 10.350 | 65 | 15.729 | 67 | 26.079 | | 65 | 63 | Texas Tech | 10.911 | 62 | 14.939 | 72 | 25.850 | | 66 | 64 | North Carolina | 11.689 | 57 | 13.524 | 74 | 25.213 | | 67 | 65 | Oregon State | 13.016 | 52 | 12.128 | 78 | 25.143 | | 68 | 66 | UCF | 9.661 | 69 | 15.321 | 70 | 24.982 | | 69 | 67 | Iowa State | 8.621 | 78 | 16.226 | 65 | 24.848 | | 70 | 68 | Purdue | 8.818 | 76 | 15.910 | 66 | 24.729 | | 71 | 69 | UL Lafayette | 13.023 | 51 | 11.413 | 82 | 24.436 | | 72 | 70 | Northwestern | 8.433 | 79 | 15.557 | 69 | 23.990 | | 73 | 71 | Syracuse | 6.504 | 87 | 17.315 | 61 | 23.819 | | 74 | 72 | Toledo | 9.399 | 71 | 12.971 | 76 | 22.371 | | 75 | 73 | Arkansas State | 6.482 | 88 | 15.626 | 68 | 22.108 | | 76 | 74 | Western Mich. | 8.179 | 81 | 13.373 | 75 | 21.551 | | 77 | 75 | Illinois | 11.089 | 61 | 10.366 | 87 | 21.455 | | 78 | 76 | Rutgers | 10.079 | 67 | 11.281 | 83 | 21.360 | | 79 | 77 | UTEP | 10.754 | 64 | 10.423 | 86 | 21.177 | | 80 | 78 | Temple | 5.530 | 94 | 15.170 | 71 | 20.699 | | 81 | 79 | Rice | 8.281 | 80 | 11.675 | 81 | 19.956 | | 82 | -- | Indiana State | 9.020 | 73 | 10.128 | 88 | 19.147 | | 83 | 80 | Colorado | 7.493 | 84 | 11.044 | 84 | 18.538 | | 84 | 81 | Indiana | 7.604 | 83 | 10.808 | 85 | 18.412 | | 85 | 82 | Washington St. | 3.995 | 104 | 14.153 | 73 | 18.148 | | 86 | 83 | Air Force | 11.241 | 58 | 6.801 | 96 | 18.042 | | 87 | 84 | Wyoming | 11.182 | 60 | 6.189 | 101 | 17.371 | | 88 | 85 | Navy | 4.856 | 96 | 12.215 | 77 | 17.070 | | 89 | 86 | UAB | 4.715 | 97 | 11.961 | 80 | 16.676 | | 90 | 87 | Northern Ill. | 8.857 | 75 | 6.070 | 103 | 14.927 | | 91 | 88 | Central Mich. | 6.299 | 89 | 7.968 | 92 | 14.267 | | 92 | -- | UNI | 1.849 | 114 | 12.042 | 79 | 13.890 | | 93 | 89 | South Alabama | 4.912 | 95 | 8.286 | 91 | 13.197 | | 94 | -- | Villanova | 5.963 | 90 | 6.922 | 95 | 12.885 | | 95 | -- | New Hampshire | 9.031 | 72 | 3.737 | 114 | 12.768 | | 96 | -- | Chattanooga | 3.834 | 105 | 8.885 | 89 | 12.719 | | 97 | 90 | Middle Tenn. | 4.103 | 101 | 8.368 | 90 | 12.470 | | 98 | 91 | Vanderbilt | 4.588 | 100 | 6.501 | 98 | 11.089 | | 99 | 92 | San Jose State | 4.009 | 103 | 6.971 | 94 | 10.980 | | 100 | 93 | Western Ky. | 3.169 | 109 | 7.295 | 93 | 10.464 | | 101 | 94 | San Diego State | 4.666 | 98 | 5.366 | 108 | 10.032 | | 102 | -- | Youngstown St. | 6.877 | 86 | 2.685 | 120 | 9.562 | | 103 | -- | Coastal Caro. | 6.917 | 85 | 1.922 | 123 | 8.839 | | 104 | 95 | Fresno State | 5.768 | 91 | 2.135 | 122 | 7.903 | | 105 | 96 | FAU | 2.358 | 112 | 5.377 | 107 | 7.735 | | 106 | -- | Jacksonville St. | 3.381 | 107 | 4.091 | 113 | 7.472 | | 107 | 97 | Bowling Green | 5.681 | 93 | 1.739 | 126 | 7.420 | | 108 | -- | South Dakota St. | 4.092 | 102 | 2.979 | 119 | 7.071 | | 109 | 98 | Kansas | 2.414 | 110 | 4.246 | 112 | 6.660 | | 110 | 99 | Southern Miss | 3.229 | 108 | 3.274 | 118 | 6.503 | | 111 | -- | Southern Ill. | 0.857 | 119 | 4.913 | 109 | 5.770 | | 112 | 100 | Hawaii | -0.460 | 127 | 6.100 | 102 | 5.641 | | 113 | 101 | Akron | -0.977 | 133 | 6.607 | 97 | 5.630 | | 114 | -- | Eastern Wash. | 4.598 | 99 | 0.943 | 130 | 5.541 | | 115 | 102 | UTSA | -0.502 | 129 | 5.870 | 104 | 5.367 | | 116 | -- | Southeastern La. | -0.688 | 131 | 5.693 | 105 | 5.005 | | 117 | 103 | ULM | 0.330 | 121 | 4.581 | 110 | 4.911 | | 118 | 104 | Ball State | -1.592 | 135 | 6.244 | 100 | 4.652 | | 119 | 105 | Texas State | 0.307 | 122 | 3.473 | 116 | 3.780 | | 120 | 106 | South Florida | 1.053 | 118 | 2.358 | 121 | 3.411 | | 121 | -- | Missouri State | -0.368 | 125 | 3.474 | 115 | 3.106 | | 122 | 107 | FIU | -2.926 | 143 | 5.484 | 106 | 2.558 | | 123 | -- | Eastern Ill. | -3.015 | 144 | 4.407 | 111 | 1.392 | | 124 | 108 | Appalachian St. | -5.102 | 159 | 6.404 | 99 | 1.302 | | 125 | 109 | Tulane | -0.638 | 130 | 1.808 | 124 | 1.169 | | 126 | -- | Fordham | -0.245 | 123 | 1.397 | 127 | 1.151 | | 127 | 110 | Ohio | 0.413 | 120 | 0.691 | 131 | 1.103 | | 128 | -- | McNeese State | -0.257 | 124 | 1.214 | 128 | 0.956 | | 129 | -- | Richmond | 1.292 | 116 | -0.708 | 134 | 0.584 | | 130 | 111 | New Mexico | 1.134 | 117 | -1.516 | 138 | -0.382 | | 131 | 112 | Wake Forest | -2.261 | 139 | 1.781 | 125 | -0.481 | | 132 | -- | Liberty | 2.083 | 113 | -2.924 | 140 | -0.841 | | 133 | -- | Samford | -4.567 | 154 | 3.430 | 117 | -1.137 | | 134 | -- | Harvard | 2.410 | 111 | -3.711 | 147 | -1.301 | | 135 | 113 | Connecticut | -2.585 | 140 | 0.568 | 133 | -2.017 | | 136 | -- | James Madison | 3.475 | 106 | -6.949 | 155 | -3.473 | | 137 | -- | Idaho State | -0.426 | 126 | -3.581 | 144 | -4.007 | | 138 | -- | Eastern Ky. | -0.958 | 132 | -3.611 | 145 | -4.569 | | 139 | -- | Western Ill. | -5.309 | 160 | 0.585 | 132 | -4.724 | | 140 | -- | Northwestern St. | -1.877 | 138 | -2.934 | 141 | -4.811 | | 141 | -- | Alcorn State | -4.165 | 152 | -1.354 | 137 | -5.519 | | 142 | -- | Cal Poly | -1.099 | 134 | -5.183 | 151 | -6.282 | | 143 | 114 | Old Dominion | -3.413 | 147 | -3.091 | 142 | -6.503 | | 144 | -- | Montana State | -3.024 | 145 | -3.738 | 148 | -6.762 | | 145 | -- | Sam Houston St. | -1.844 | 137 | -5.277 | 152 | -7.121 | | 146 | -- | Montana | -0.466 | 128 | -6.785 | 154 | -7.251 | | 147 | 115 | Massachusetts | -8.434 | 177 | 0.949 | 129 | -7.485 | | 148 | -- | Bryant | 1.562 | 115 | -9.517 | 163 | -7.954 | | 149 | 116 | North Texas | -7.556 | 174 | -0.734 | 135 | -8.290 | | 150 | 117 | Tulsa | -6.270 | 166 | -2.347 | 139 | -8.617 | | 151 | -- | Central Ark. | -7.461 | 172 | -1.301 | 136 | -8.762 | | 152 | 118 | Buffalo | -7.076 | 170 | -5.119 | 150 | -12.196 | | 153 | -- | William & Mary | -4.768 | 156 | -8.316 | 159 | -13.084 | | 154 | 119 | Miami U. | -9.639 | 182 | -3.619 | 146 | -13.259 | | 155 | -- | Stephen F. Austin | -4.793 | 158 | -8.635 | 161 | -13.428 | | 156 | 120 | Army | -6.940 | 169 | -6.652 | 153 | -13.593 | | 157 | -- | Lamar | -5.754 | 161 | -8.000 | 158 | -13.754 | | 158 | 121 | New Mexico St. | -10.102 | 183 | -4.983 | 149 | -15.085 | | 159 | -- | NC A&T | -5.928 | 162 | -9.215 | 162 | -15.143 | | 160 | -- | SC State | -2.925 | 142 | -12.253 | 172 | -15.178 | | 161 | -- | Southeast Mo. | -7.844 | 175 | -7.440 | 157 | -15.283 | | 162 | -- | Northern Ariz. | -3.220 | 146 | -12.653 | 174 | -15.872 | | 163 | 122 | Idaho | -12.816 | 197 | -3.103 | 143 | -15.919 | | 164 | -- | Bethune-Cookman | -2.864 | 141 | -13.295 | 176 | -16.159 | | 165 | 123 | UNLV | -6.715 | 168 | -9.533 | 164 | -16.249 | | 166 | -- | Wofford | -6.253 | 164 | -10.930 | 168 | -17.183 | | 167 | -- | Presbyterian | -1.679 | 136 | -16.166 | 186 | -17.845 | | 168 | -- | Western Caro. | -4.337 | 153 | -13.616 | 178 | -17.953 | | 169 | -- | Albany | -4.788 | 157 | -13.190 | 175 | -17.978 | | 170 | -- | UT Martin | -8.822 | 181 | -9.657 | 165 | -18.479 | | 171 | -- | Yale | -6.548 | 167 | -11.934 | 171 | -18.482 | | 172 | -- | Charleston So. | -7.471 | 173 | -11.610 | 170 | -19.082 | | 173 | -- | Sacred Heart | -4.702 | 155 | -14.525 | 181 | -19.227 | | 174 | 124 | Kent State | -12.586 | 195 | -7.274 | 156 | -19.861 | | 175 | -- | Grambling State | -3.948 | 151 | -16.047 | 185 | -19.994 | | 176 | -- | Bucknell | -3.829 | 149 | -16.334 | 188 | -20.164 | | 177 | -- | Abilene Christian | -11.701 | 190 | -8.567 | 160 | -20.268 | | 178 | -- | Dartmouth | -3.625 | 148 | -17.445 | 194 | -21.070 | | 179 | 125 | SMU | -6.267 | 165 | -15.461 | 183 | -21.728 | | 180 | -- | South Dakota | -8.482 | 178 | -13.606 | 177 | -22.088 | | 181 | 126 | Troy | -12.384 | 194 | -9.864 | 166 | -22.248 | | 182 | -- | Citadel | -11.102 | 187 | -11.157 | 169 | -22.259 | | 183 | -- | Stony Brook | -8.585 | 179 | -13.771 | 179 | -22.356 | | 184 | 127 | Georgia State | -11.934 | 192 | -10.724 | 167 | -22.659 | | 185 | 128 | Eastern Mich. | -8.166 | 176 | -16.530 | 189 | -24.696 | | 186 | -- | Saint Francis | -8.744 | 180 | -16.178 | 187 | -24.922 | | 187 | -- | Sacramento St. | -10.298 | 185 | -15.172 | 182 | -25.470 | | 188 | -- | Southern Utah | -11.550 | 189 | -15.527 | 184 | -27.077 | | 189 | -- | Southern | -5.938 | 163 | -21.311 | 206 | -27.249 | | 190 | -- | Charlotte | -14.015 | 203 | -13.975 | 180 | -27.990 | | 191 | -- | Jacksonville | -7.160 | 171 | -21.196 | 204 | -28.356 | | 192 | -- | Duquesne | -11.242 | 188 | -17.334 | 193 | -28.577 | | 193 | -- | Tennessee State | -16.492 | 217 | -12.331 | 173 | -28.824 | | 194 | -- | Maine | -10.220 | 184 | -19.851 | 200 | -30.071 | | 195 | -- | Monmouth | -12.153 | 193 | -18.746 | 196 | -30.899 | | 196 | -- | Delaware | -10.355 | 186 | -20.623 | 202 | -30.978 | | 197 | -- | Mercer | -14.348 | 205 | -16.852 | 191 | -31.200 | | 198 | -- | Murray State | -15.382 | 213 | -17.021 | 192 | -32.403 | | 199 | -- | Lafayette | -14.674 | 207 | -18.057 | 195 | -32.732 | | 200 | -- | Furman | -12.899 | 198 | -20.490 | 201 | -33.389 | | 201 | -- | Colgate | -14.239 | 204 | -19.646 | 198 | -33.885 | | 202 | -- | Holy Cross | -14.491 | 206 | -19.795 | 199 | -34.286 | | 203 | -- | Alabama State | -15.412 | 214 | -19.027 | 197 | -34.439 | | 204 | -- | Northern Colo. | -13.129 | 199 | -21.462 | 207 | -34.591 | | 205 | -- | San Diego | -3.842 | 150 | -30.811 | 231 | -34.653 | | 206 | -- | Portland State | -13.992 | 202 | -21.188 | 203 | -35.180 | | 207 | -- | Gardner-Webb | -13.680 | 200 | -21.647 | 208 | -35.326 | | 208 | -- | Morgan State | -13.739 | 201 | -21.668 | 209 | -35.407 | | 209 | -- | Towson | -11.733 | 191 | -24.752 | 218 | -36.485 | | 210 | -- | Tennessee Tech | -15.344 | 212 | -21.283 | 205 | -36.627 | | 211 | -- | Weber State | -20.707 | 230 | -16.580 | 190 | -37.287 | | 212 | -- | North Dakota | -12.646 | 196 | -24.892 | 219 | -37.538 | | 213 | -- | NC Central | -15.061 | 209 | -22.844 | 213 | -37.905 | | 214 | -- | Prairie View | -16.944 | 219 | -21.861 | 210 | -38.805 | | 215 | -- | Wagner | -17.410 | 222 | -22.168 | 211 | -39.578 | | 216 | -- | Princeton | -15.542 | 215 | -24.138 | 217 | -39.680 | | 217 | -- | Elon | -17.401 | 221 | -22.318 | 212 | -39.719 | | 218 | -- | UC Davis | -16.956 | 220 | -23.487 | 215 | -40.443 | | 219 | -- | Lehigh | -18.029 | 225 | -23.326 | 214 | -41.355 | | 220 | -- | Brown | -18.544 | 227 | -23.764 | 216 | -42.307 | | 221 | -- | Dayton | -14.774 | 208 | -27.862 | 225 | -42.636 | | 222 | -- | Norfolk State | -15.221 | 211 | -27.741 | 224 | -42.962 | | 223 | -- | Alabama A&M | -15.673 | 216 | -27.734 | 223 | -43.406 | | 224 | -- | Texas Southern | -15.122 | 210 | -28.959 | 227 | -44.082 | | 225 | -- | VMI | -17.497 | 224 | -27.447 | 221 | -44.945 | | 226 | -- | Hampton | -22.103 | 232 | -26.902 | 220 | -49.005 | | 227 | -- | Howard | -22.857 | 235 | -28.679 | 226 | -51.536 | | 228 | -- | Georgetown | -24.389 | 240 | -27.655 | 222 | -52.044 | | 229 | -- | CCSU | -23.391 | 238 | -29.068 | 228 | -52.460 | | 230 | -- | Penn | -22.610 | 234 | -29.921 | 229 | -52.531 | | 231 | -- | Austin Peay | -16.919 | 218 | -36.727 | 238 | -53.646 | | 232 | -- | Florida A&M | -22.998 | 237 | -30.847 | 232 | -53.845 | | 233 | -- | Incarnate Word | -18.495 | 226 | -35.538 | 236 | -54.033 | | 234 | -- | UAPB | -17.442 | 223 | -37.359 | 240 | -54.801 | | 235 | -- | Drake | -20.119 | 229 | -35.433 | 235 | -55.552 | | 236 | -- | Jackson State | -25.823 | 244 | -30.349 | 230 | -56.172 | | 237 | -- | Marist | -21.454 | 231 | -35.026 | 234 | -56.480 | | 238 | -- | Rhode Island | -24.776 | 241 | -32.004 | 233 | -56.779 | | 239 | -- | Butler | -18.959 | 228 | -38.030 | 241 | -56.989 | | 240 | -- | Campbell | -22.372 | 233 | -40.678 | 242 | -63.050 | | 241 | -- | Delaware State | -26.764 | 245 | -36.529 | 237 | -63.293 | | 242 | -- | Miss. Valley St. | -25.300 | 243 | -41.057 | 243 | -66.356 | | 243 | -- | Robert Morris | -25.061 | 242 | -42.410 | 244 | -67.471 | | 244 | -- | Cornell | -30.409 | 249 | -37.122 | 239 | -67.531 | | 245 | -- | Morehead State | -24.239 | 239 | -45.434 | 248 | -69.673 | | 246 | -- | Stetson | -22.978 | 236 | -47.205 | 250 | -70.183 | | 247 | -- | Houston Baptist | -27.155 | 247 | -43.928 | 245 | -71.083 | | 248 | -- | Nicholls State | -27.091 | 246 | -45.656 | 249 | -72.747 | | 249 | -- | Columbia | -29.151 | 248 | -45.425 | 247 | -74.576 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | -- | -- | Non-Division I | -28.506 | -- | -48.597 | -- | -77.103 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+ | 250 | -- | Valparaiso | -32.527 | 251 | -44.738 | 246 | -77.265 | | 251 | -- | Savannah State | -31.407 | 250 | -50.512 | 252 | -81.919 | | 252 | -- | Davidson | -34.809 | 252 | -48.488 | 251 | -83.297 | +------+-----+-------------------+---------+-----+---------+-----+---------+
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I like to say my poll is based on a principle of "least internal inconsistency", but there's a lot of circles of suck this year so it ends up looking a little screwy. Ole Miss in particular just can't help sticking near the top despite two losses. Those losses were close, and were versus reasonably good teams, so apparently this particular math says they still make more sense at #3 than anyone else. A&M and South Carolina continue to crater, and in A&M's case a bad win dropped them. Florida State sucks. Interestingly, a lot of these idiosyncrasies (compared to the human polls) are also reflected in the Hayden poll. Of course, this means we're better than the voters. code:
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Captain von Trapp posted:I like to say my poll is based on a principle of "least internal inconsistency", but there's a lot of circles of suck this year so it ends up looking a little screwy. Ole Miss in particular just can't help sticking near the top despite two losses. Those losses were close, and were versus reasonably good teams, so apparently this particular math says they still make more sense at #3 than anyone else. A&M and South Carolina continue to crater, and in A&M's case a bad win dropped them. Florida State sucks. I suspect this is because you're both using just wins/score data (correct me if I'm wrong) which leads to some similar weirdness. I wish there were an easily accessible stats source because some of the previous years' polls based off of things like yardage and penalties were often entertaining. I thought about putting one together myself, but there just doesn't seem to be any way to get yardage stats for every game in an easily accessible format, let alone more esoteric stats.
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blackmongoose posted:I suspect this is because you're both using just wins/score data (correct me if I'm wrong) which leads to some similar weirdness. I wish there were an easily accessible stats source because some of the previous years' polls based off of things like yardage and penalties were often entertaining. I thought about putting one together myself, but there just doesn't seem to be any way to get yardage stats for every game in an easily accessible format, let alone more esoteric stats. Yeah. I considered going back to my older poll that just pulled one stat and I coudl do manually, but... you know what, if the NCAA doesn't want people playing with statistics, fine, whatever, saves me an hour a week I can watch cat videos on youtube with. ![]()
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Yeah, I'm just using scores, nothing special beyond that. You'd think the NCAA, being a "nonprofit" "academic" "student" organization wouldn't go out of its way to obfuscate data, but here we are.
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