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What would happen if they put JtMS in the Blue Commander 2014 deck?
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Oct 13, 2014 17:19
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A lot of people would buy that deck, probably
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Oct 13, 2014 17:22
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mcmagic posted:Jace wasn't 75 bucks when it was in standard. It absolutely was. I remember it being so, and just checked on MTG Goldfish, where if you expand the graph as far back as it can go you can see Jace sitting at $100 when cawblade was at its height. 
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Oct 13, 2014 17:23
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Yea, Jace was, in fact, that high while he was in standard. I don't think any cards from khans can reach that point though, Jace's price was as driven by eternal demand that just doesn't exist for Sorin, etc.
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Oct 13, 2014 17:24
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frameset posted:It absolutely was. I remember it being so, and just checked on MTG Goldfish, where if you expand the graph as far back as it can go you can see Jace sitting at $100 when cawblade was at its height. I remember buying them for 50-60 at the height. It could've been 75+ at like SCG or CFB though.
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Oct 13, 2014 17:26
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mcmagic posted:There are no 30 dollar non-mythic rares and no 75 dollar cards in Standard. Mutavault was 100% over $30 for a time in Standard.
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Oct 13, 2014 17:28
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mcmagic posted:I remember buying them for 50-60 at the height. It could've been 75+ at like SCG or CFB though. That graph probably shows the Mid price so you may have bought yours from a Low seller.
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Oct 13, 2014 17:31
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Sorin and Siege Rhino aren't going to be multiformat all-stars in the way that Snapcaster and JTMS are, because they cost 4 and aren't blue. They'll probably see some eternal play but something with as specific of a mana cost as Siege Rhino ain't going to find enough homes to spike. Solemn Visitor has to compete with Lord of Innistrad for the 4 drop Sorin occasionally played in Stoneblade decks slot.
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Oct 13, 2014 17:34
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You wanna hear some stupid poo poo regarding Rhino? I watched on camera at WA States (Shotgun Lotus did the coverage) where there was a 4c Esper control. The splash? Rhino. Esper Rhino is what they called it. WHAT And it was at like 4-1-1 or 5-0-1 or something crazy when I was watching.
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Oct 13, 2014 17:42
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En Fuego posted:You wanna hear some stupid poo poo regarding Rhino? I watched on camera at WA States (Shotgun Lotus did the coverage) where there was a 4c Esper control. The splash? Rhino. The life gain seems pretty relevant for control decks post-rev.
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Oct 13, 2014 17:47
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En Fuego posted:Esper Rhino  That name is fantastic, all I'm thinking about is psychic rhinos now. Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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Oct 13, 2014 17:47
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En Fuego posted:You wanna hear some stupid poo poo regarding Rhino? I watched on camera at WA States (Shotgun Lotus did the coverage) where there was a 4c Esper control. The splash? Rhino. Junk Reanimator 2: Electric Boogaloo fake edit: wizards please give us a functional Resto Angel reprint
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Oct 13, 2014 17:52
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AgentSythe posted:Junk Reanimator 2: Electric Boogaloo A friend of mine ran a B/G Reanimator deck at a Starcity IQ my stores went to two weeks ago. He blew his opponent out with a turn 6 "Satyr Wayfinder, pitching Ashen Rider, 2 land, take third land. End of your turn Rescue from the Underworld Satyr Wayfinder, targeting Ashen Rider." Next turn he gets back both, pitches ANOTHER Ashen Rider with Wayfinder and plays the other Rescue at the end of his opponent's turn. "What, you weren't expecting Ashen Rider in my Green Black Deck?" He didn't tell anybody he added those. Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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Oct 13, 2014 18:01
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AgentSythe posted:Junk Reanimator 2: Electric Boogaloo They did. It's called Quickling. And it's a fixed version.
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Oct 13, 2014 18:03
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Count Bleck posted:A friend of mine ran a B/G Reanimator deck at a Starcity IQ my stores went to two weeks ago. I've played a couple of those decks and cackled madly at using Burn Away.
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Oct 13, 2014 18:13
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Sorin is up to $39 tcg mid I would guess between 2 and 3 weeks... http://www.mtgstocks.com/cards/21415 Boxman posted:Reminder: They sorta can't. If EV stays too high, retailers will crack boxes themselves and immediately put the singles on sale, increasing supply and (hypothetically) dropping prices. This is exactly what is going to happen. I know a relatively small store that is planning to crack between 6 and 18 cases depending on the demand this week. GP LA is this weekend but there is no standard GP stateside after that until the end of November which puts peak demand / lowest supply basically right this moment. These prices will begin to drop after this weekend. A large farva fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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Oct 13, 2014 18:16
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I wonder how long this value bubble can last.
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Sotar posted:I just might shy away from STandard then and play limited/modern if these prices sustain (likely they won't) Reminder: They sorta can't. If EV stays too high, retailers will crack boxes themselves and immediately put the singles on sale, increasing supply and (hypothetically) dropping prices.
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Oct 13, 2014 18:18
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Prices are pretty absurd right now. I've been saving my Standard trade stuff for after the Pro Tour, and I think it's a good time to cash out. There's always this psychological value inflation on cards after they top 8 a Pro Tour where people treat the cards like gold. Hoping to turn like $1500 worth of Standard cards into Eternal staples tonight. And maybe pick up the foil Dig Through Times I missed out on.
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Oct 13, 2014 18:28
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AgentSythe posted:Junk Reanimator 2: Electric Boogaloo You joke, but this is actually a playable deck I've been running since GP Orlando: http://deckbox.org/sets/799748
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Oct 13, 2014 18:55
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BaronVonVaderham posted:You joke, but this is actually a playable deck I've been running since GP Orlando: http://deckbox.org/sets/799748 neetengie fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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Oct 13, 2014 19:08
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BaronVonVaderham posted:You joke, but this is actually a playable deck I've been running since GP Orlando: http://deckbox.org/sets/799748 This deck seemed so super duper slow and durdley to me when I tested it...
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Oct 13, 2014 19:14
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neetengie posted:I forgot to ask this in the deckbuilding thread, but in general how do you sideboard? I am very bad at sideboards.
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Oct 13, 2014 19:15
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so I take it I'm the only one in this thread who's working on the jeskai combo deck? bummer. it's pretty tricky to find other pilots to bounce ideas off of.
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Oct 13, 2014 19:42
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A big flaming stink posted:so I take it I'm the only one in this thread who's working on the jeskai combo deck? bummer. There was a pretty big discussion on the proper finishers on twitter last night from the CFB crew if you're really curious about it. I have the version LSV piloted sleeved up and if I get a chance I am taking it to FNM this week but I haven't goldfished it or anything.
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Oct 13, 2014 19:59
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It always drove me crazy seeing 1 ofs and 2 ofs in sideboards in winning/pro decks. I always thought you picked the top 3-4 archetypes and picked a sliver bullet for each then ran 4 of a bullet for the top 3 and 3 of the last bullet for the last one. Until I played with 1 ofs and 2 ofs. You still get silver bullets but now they are spread among 2-3 different cards, so you end up bringing 4-8 bullets in vs. just 4 with my previous thinking.
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Oct 13, 2014 20:00
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A big flaming stink posted:so I take it I'm the only one in this thread who's working on the jeskai combo deck? bummer. Modern or Standard?
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Oct 13, 2014 20:06
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Where's the lsv list?
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Oct 13, 2014 20:17
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The only list I'm interested in seeing is Tom Ross's Rabblemaster-less sligh deck, and exactly what he went up against.
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Oct 13, 2014 20:23
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Snacksmaniac posted:Where's the lsv list? https://twitter.com/lsv/status/521209372416823296
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Oct 13, 2014 20:29
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Emerson Cod posted:Modern or Standard? standard. I took Mattignon and Tian's list and kinda jammed them together. I'm in on the aura combo, but I'm down to two zero mana artifacts and just one twinflame as a kill, and up to 4 DTT and 2 Cruises main. Tian's sideboard kind of blew my mind. Going nuts thinking about creatures to bring in (Sagu Mauler against Abzan? Prognostic Sphinx against tempo?)
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Oct 13, 2014 20:30
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That fnm change got me thinking, what about "pick your own standard era", so player 1 could pick rav/time spiral and play UB pickles, someone else could do alara/scars and play caw blade, etc., maybe whatever era you pick you automatically are at the day before rotation of the oldest block, so stuff would be banned that was banned in that standard era (so no clamp/artifact lands for the mirrodin/champs player). Maybe everyone picks onslaught/mirrodin I dunno, sounds like it could be fun, but deck legality would be a nightmare. edit: or the store could pick an era an everyone builds to that. Scars/innistrad one month, lorwyn/alara the next. Molybdenum fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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Oct 13, 2014 20:35
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InterrupterJones posted:The only list I'm interested in seeing is Tom Ross's Rabblemaster-less sligh deck, and exactly what he went up against.
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Oct 13, 2014 20:39
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The Lord of Hats posted:What's the EV of a Khans pack right now, anyways? Still negative, but it's got to be a crazily close margin. http://www.mtgstocks.com/sets/239 TCG mid a booster is worth $5. Boxes are $180. I think the reason this is happening is this set hasn't been very liquid. People are opening but not trading/selling as much. People are stuck on not trading lands, so people who want lands have little/nothing to offer for non-land cards.
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Oct 13, 2014 20:40
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jassi007 posted:http://www.mtgstocks.com/sets/239 yeesh that's nuts. I've been trading every fetch i get my hands on the moment i open it. Getting two shocks for one fetch is a pretty good feeling right now.
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Oct 13, 2014 20:47
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Molybdenum posted:That fnm change got me thinking, what about "pick your own standard era", so player 1 could pick rav/time spiral and play UB pickles, someone else could do alara/scars and play caw blade, etc., maybe whatever era you pick you automatically are at the day before rotation of the oldest block, so stuff would be banned that was banned in that standard era (so no clamp/artifact lands for the mirrodin/champs player). I think it would be more like the thread we have floating around where they're building custom Standards (well Super Standards) and using those for the construction limitations. So the store would do a vote, or otherwise come to a decision, ahead of time on what sets would be legal (probably banning any Block Constructed Banned cards), post it up and/or make an announcement and then everyone has time to build. I'd probably announce what sets are legal and any specific banned cards several weeks, or maybe a month, in advance if I was organizing something like this for a local shop.
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Oct 13, 2014 20:47
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Thank you. Going to try it for FNM. Jet Ski Ascendancy in All (two) Formats this week!
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Oct 13, 2014 20:51
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Oh SCG has some of the States lists up, turns out Tom Ross got 7th in Mississippi on Saturday and 1st in Louisiana on Sunday. With two completely different decks. W/U Heroic and Hordeling Boss Sligh. Also the person that won the WA States was running mono red and the guy that won in New Jersey was on a 17 Mountain list with all one drops and only 2 Rabblemasters and a Mountain in the sideboard. Even though it was not really at the Pro Tour at all, this is still a deck to play and win with on Game Day.
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Oct 13, 2014 21:00
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Molybdenum posted:That fnm change got me thinking, what about "pick your own standard era", so player 1 could pick rav/time spiral and play UB pickles, someone else could do alara/scars and play caw blade, etc., maybe whatever era you pick you automatically are at the day before rotation of the oldest block, so stuff would be banned that was banned in that standard era (so no clamp/artifact lands for the mirrodin/champs player). Urza's/Masques, anyone? I am also willing to settle for Rath/Urza
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Oct 13, 2014 21:02
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I want to play 2004 era Extended.
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Oct 13, 2014 21:34
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jassi007 posted:http://www.mtgstocks.com/sets/239 It's because retailer allocation wasn't high enough compared to demand, which is massive for this set. More boxes would be getting cracked for singles if there were more boxes to crack.
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Oct 13, 2014 21:48
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