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Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


So when JC says that "Denton" is an old code name from his UNATCO days... how long has it actually been? And did he have UNATCO days? Was he there for more than 24 hours?

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Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib
He was in the academy before that, the game just starts in his first 24 hours as an active duty agent.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

I appreciate that the default real name you can enter at the start of the game is also JC Denton. He is not a great agent.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

FactsAreUseless posted:

I appreciate that the default real name you can enter at the start of the game is also JC Denton. He is not a great agent.

UNATCO's new agent has been given the codename JC Denton. Coincidentally, this also happens to be his real name.

UNATCO, ladies and gentlemen.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

It's the last thing they'll suspect. besides, JC seems to be a very lonely person. Reyes and his brother seem to be the only people he has a pre-game connection with that JC acknowledges. He doesn't have anyone in New York he knows, or anywhere that he tries to connect to. It's all business to him.


pun pundit
Nov 11, 2008

I feel the same way about the company bearing the same name.

To be fair, though, he's not exactly got a lot of free time. It's mission->mission->mission->plot twist->mission->mission->plot twist the whole way through. He may be making calls to old buddies during those helicopter rides for all we know.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

FactsAreUseless posted:

I appreciate that the default real name you can enter at the start of the game is also JC Denton. He is not a great agent.

Does that dialogue change if you leave your real name as the default?

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Dabir posted:

Does that dialogue change if you leave your real name as the default?
No. I've never touched it, and Paul always says "Might as well start using your codename."

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Well obviously he says that out in public, never know who could be listening.

FinalGamer
Aug 30, 2012

So the mystic script says.

RZApublican posted:

UNATCO's new agent has been given the codename JC Denton. Coincidentally, this also happens to be his real name.

UNATCO, ladies and gentlemen.
This is like the James Bond rule isn't it?

I mean seriously what kind of secret agent uses his own name?

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

FinalGamer posted:

This is like the James Bond rule isn't it?

I mean seriously what kind of secret agent uses his own name?

Hiding in plain sight, just like when you set your password to "password".

Mico
Jan 29, 2011

A billion dollars.

RZApublican posted:

Hiding in plain sight, just like when you set your password to "password".

UNATCO...hacked

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Mico posted:

UNATCO...hacked

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

Which mod is this?

Doctor_Blueninja
Oct 23, 2012

Just some guy with a college doctorate and a passing knowledge of what it means to be a ninja.

OAquinas posted:

Which mod is this?

One that gets its user forcibly escorted off of the premises, I'm sure.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

Doctor_Blueninja posted:

One that gets its user forcibly escorted off of the premises, I'm sure.

The guy with the camera is most likely the one getting the escort, the other guy is just "testing the computers" after all.

Dawncloack
Nov 26, 2007
ECKS DEE!
Nap Ghost
I am kind of surprised, Bobbin, that you didn't mention the acidification of the oceans, directly I mean. Essentially, because there's more CO2 in the atmosphere, it ends up, through osmosis, in the oceans.

And I'd say that oceans are a tiny bit important for us humans.

(We are SO screwed)

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

If you hearken back to the Conspiracy Corner on drugs and crack, you may recall how I mentioned that there was a movie coming out soon about the man who exposed the CIA's complicity in Nicaraguan drug smuggling. Well, I just thought I'd mention that soon has come to pass. The film won't be fully released until October 24th, but hey, it might be out where you live.

J.theYellow
May 7, 2003
Slippery Tilde
Gary Webb is one of the worst sad-sack stories in modern journalism. To be fair, the Iran-Contra-CIA-cocaine connection had already been established by previous reporting, but Webb went and wrote about what happened to the cocaine once it traveled into America -- hustlers like Freeway Ricky Ross turned it into crack and created an epidemic. And his fellow journalists loving hated him for it, driving him into professional ruin, depression and suicide.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Today's episode gets pretty deep.



Handouts:

Last Will
Lab Email: Malfunctioning Turret
Lab Email: Illumination Is At Hand
Fires everywhere
It's all Ridley's fault
Lab Email: Where are you?
Universal Constructor: Theory, Principles, and Practice
Thursday: Sanity
APR: US Situation Worsens
Hurry.
CYA Login
Lab Email: destroy EVERYTHING
UC Component

Known misses: The Tiffany reward exploit has a second, more powerful form.

Bobbin Threadbare fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Oct 13, 2014

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous
Atlantis sunk because Arkantos kicked Poseidon's rear end. :colbert:

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God
Early on you mention the water pressure being dangerous, but it shouldn't be. Water pressure alone wont kill you; what kills you is the difference between the water pressure and the pressure of the air in your lungs, and since the ocean base is open to the water the air pressure must be the same as the water pressure. On the other hand, the water would probably be cold enough to kill a normal person within a few minutes.

Mikser
Nov 25, 2007
A fun thing to try with Walton Simons: you can lure him out the hatch (this works more easily if he switches to a Dragon's Tooth sword to chase you) and go for a swim with you. Needless to say, if you have a rebreather or two, you'll outlast him...

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
The worst thing about that Simons fight is the plasma white-out. It's like he's shooting burning flashbangs at you.

Smart Car
Mar 31, 2011

Another fun bug similar to the infinite skill points from Gary Savage is talking with him while your inventory is full while one of the items in your inventory is an upgrade canister. If you do so you'll end up throwing an upgrade canister to the floor, and you can pick talk to Savage again to get another one much like the skill points bug. So if you really want to you can at this point max out all your skills and your augmentations.

GauRocks
Jun 2, 2008
The lack of transition between the last level and this one is especially jarring if you're the kind of clown who will open the sub door and then close it again.

You don't explode. In fact, you make it to the Ocean Lab just fine, and the door is still closed when you get back.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!
Regarding Simons, there's a bit of alternate dialogue he has. If somehow you manage to miss him talking about his augs at UNATCO, instead of saying "As you may recall from our chat" etc., he says "Because as I told you in Paris, this time you'll face someone with your own abilities" (or something close to that).

Also I had no idea you could leave him behind and run off like you did :lol:

Sir Juan
May 5, 2009
Maybe Tracer Tong has a quantum computer, those will pretty much trivialize prime number factorization based encryption.

Ometeotl
Feb 13, 2012



It's MISSEL! Or SISSLE!
I confused myself...



Sir Juan posted:

Maybe Tracer Tong has a quantum computer, those will pretty much trivialize prime number factorization based encryption.

If Tong has one, I can only imagine that Page would, or would at least acknowledge that possibility before bragging about how futile their cure was.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Ometeotl posted:

If Tong has one, I can only imagine that Page would, or would at least acknowledge that possibility before bragging about how futile their cure was.

Page is literally sitting on the most powerful computer in the world which has the ability to parse, censor, and redirect data from every corner of the internet simultaneously.

Besides, there are always more prime numbers.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Bremen posted:

Early on you mention the water pressure being dangerous, but it shouldn't be. Water pressure alone wont kill you; what kills you is the difference between the water pressure and the pressure of the air in your lungs, and since the ocean base is open to the water the air pressure must be the same as the water pressure. On the other hand, the water would probably be cold enough to kill a normal person within a few minutes.

You'd also have to keep a close eye on the gas mix. If it is any any great depths then they must be controlling the gas mix in the base pretty closely. You do get some very funky effects as you compress certain gases which are distinctly deleterious to health. Unless you take some precautions it can do unpleasant things to your interior chemistry.

Any divers here able to work out how long it should have taken JC to safely surface if the base was at a depth of 75 meters? Gotta go fast slow!

Just also had a glance at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_diving and 66 meters is where Oxygen toxicity starts becoming a serious concern. It doesn't mention Helium tremors which is another gas toxicity effect which occurs at deeper depths.

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Bobbin Threadbare posted:

Page is literally sitting on the most powerful computer in the world which has the ability to parse, censor, and redirect data from every corner of the internet simultaneously.

Besides, there are always more prime numbers.

Frankly at that point I'd just attack the substrate rather than the encryption...

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
I kinda wish that after Daedalus and Icarus merged, all the e-mail lines in the future levels changed from Daedalus:(whatever) to Helios:(whatever). It'd be a subtle nod towards the fact that someone new has control over all the data now.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

JT Jag posted:

I kinda wish that after Daedalus and Icarus merged, all the e-mail lines in the future levels changed from Daedalus:(whatever) to Helios:(whatever). It'd be a subtle nod towards the fact that someone new has control over all the data now.

Then again, having them stay the same could be considered a subtle nod to the unending horror that is firmware updates.

Shei-kun
Dec 2, 2011

Screw you, physics!
drat, that Conspiracy Corner really got deeper than I was prepared for :stare:

Gave me lots to think about. I really want to just shoot the breeze with you about science and philosophy sometime, Bobbin. I may not be able to contribute much, but drat if it won't be interesting and fun.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Mikl posted:

Also I had no idea you could leave him behind and run off like you did :lol:

It's what I did my first time through as well, mostly because the projectile intercept aug wasn't destroying plasma like I thought it would, so I decided to run for it. Though instead of leaving him in the dust he pursued me into that flooded room and it was entertaining to watch him swim after me in an attempt to finish the fight.

Pizuz
Sep 15, 2008
Actually, the entire Atlantis thing Smith is spinning has deep links to anthroposophical beliefs (Rudolf Steiner, of course):

https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/atlantis-and-aryans

And yes, it is weird. And apparently it is part of the history curriculum in Waldorf schools. Taught as history. Go figure.

By the way: Thanks for this highly informative and entertaining LP.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

And it was revived partly because they kept finding evidence that African folk were more advanced than they thought. "So we found rather elaborate cities and evidence they were way more savvy on science than folk thought before the age of Discoveries? Huuuuuh that was Atlanteans."

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Kunster posted:

And it was revived partly because they kept finding evidence that African folk were more advanced than they thought. "So we found rather elaborate cities and evidence they were way more savvy on science than folk thought before the age of Discoveries? Huuuuuh that was Atlanteans."

Racism in our conspiracy theories? Say it isn't so?!

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



I wonder if we would remember Mu / Lemuria right now if Lovecraft and other 20's pulp authors didn't pick up the slack.

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FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009

Good game!
I think I once filled the place where Walton Simons spawns with lams, and only heard a huge explosion/scream. It was totally worth it. I also remember a way to make him unconscious somehow so you can carry him around.

Wasnt there also a trick to duplicate augment canisters with the roof encounter?

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