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Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Iron Crowned posted:

I've heard sound bytes of conservatives claiming that Ebola in the USA is some kind of political correctness conspiracy (I can't remember the exact wording, but political correctness was part of it). I still can't wrap my head around that one :psyduck:

I just saw a random conservative website claiming that liberals were blaming the NRA on ebola due to this article:

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-because-of-the-nra-20141012-column.html

In reality, the article is stating that we do not have a Surgeon General due to the NRA which is 100% true.

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parasyte
Aug 13, 2003

Nobody wants to die except the suicides. They're no fun.

Iron Crowned posted:

I've heard sound bytes of conservatives claiming that Ebola in the USA is some kind of political correctness conspiracy (I can't remember the exact wording, but political correctness was part of it). I still can't wrap my head around that one :psyduck:

At this point everything is some kind of evil liberal conspiracy.

The one I remember seeing here was Rush, and his assertion was that because liberals want to appear politically correct, they are keeping the conservatives from disallowing all flights to the USA from nations with ebola cases. Because by doing so we'd be racist (which is true), but it'd keep ebola from reaching us (which isn't).

E:
Here he is quoted saying Ebola in Europe is a socialist conspiracy to control people: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3512233&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=729#post435951101

And here's part of his political correctness bit, where he says both that acknowledging Ebola jeopardizes amnesty so libs won't do it, and that we are advertising open borders so Ebola patients can try to come here and get care:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3512233&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=724#post435732696

parasyte fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Oct 13, 2014

Tercio
Jan 30, 2003

This is pitch-perfect talk radio. Fear driven message, call to righteous anger, instructions for how you can stem the tide (by buying the host's product!):

https://soundcloud.com/rightwingwatch/savage-obama-bringing-ebola-to-america-committing-treason

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.

Iron Crowned posted:

I've heard sound bytes of conservatives claiming that Ebola in the USA is some kind of political correctness conspiracy (I can't remember the exact wording, but political correctness was part of it). I still can't wrap my head around that one :psyduck:

At this point everything is some kind of evil liberal conspiracy.
The backstory on that one is that Jesse Jackson went down to Texas to speak to the family of Duncan. From there the usual bigots went to town on trying to tie the visit in with political correctness, bemoaning how this will paint them as bigots and racists when in fact they went on to say a bunch of bigoted poo poo about Texas' Liberian immigrant population.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

parasyte posted:

The one I remember seeing here was Rush, and his assertion was that because liberals want to appear politically correct, they are keeping the conservatives from disallowing all flights to the USA from nations with ebola cases. Because by doing so we'd be racist (which is true), but it'd keep ebola from reaching us (which isn't).

There are relatively few direct flights from the USA to West Africa. The Dallas case arrived via a stopover in Brussels, and not everyone arriving from there is going to have originated in countries with an ebola outbreak either. Stupid.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Iron Crowned posted:

I've heard sound bytes of conservatives claiming that Ebola in the USA is some kind of political correctness conspiracy (I can't remember the exact wording, but political correctness was part of it). I still can't wrap my head around that one :psyduck:

At this point everything is some kind of evil liberal conspiracy.

I can explain this. Their solution to Ebola would have been to murder everyone whose skin is darker than lily white, and probably everyone who is trying to enter the country from the entire continent of Africa. That way, Ebola can't spread to the US. The only reason this wasn't done is, clearly, political correctness.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Orange Devil posted:

I can explain this. Their solution to Ebola would have been to murder everyone whose skin is darker than lily white, and probably everyone who is trying to enter the country from the entire continent of Africa. That way, Ebola can't spread to the US. The only reason this wasn't done is, clearly, political correctness.

Hey now, let's not exaggerate. There's probably a lot of lily white people that they want to kill as well. Just to be safe, mind.

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
:siren: My dad :siren: is bitching about how the president is picking and choosing which laws he decides to enforce and which he doesn't. Does anyone have a concise link to a rundown on how the Republicans can sue the President if they actually cared about the issues besides rabble-rousing?

Alternatively: A gigantic list of all the laws that every president has chosen to ignore since forever

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I think this one sums things up pretty well as long as we're posting cartoons.



Necc0 posted:

:siren: My dad :siren: is bitching about how the president is picking and choosing which laws he decides to enforce and which he doesn't. Does anyone have a concise link to a rundown on how the Republicans can sue the President if they actually cared about the issues besides rabble-rousing?

Alternatively: A gigantic list of all the laws that every president has chosen to ignore since forever

Every President does this.

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted
Presuming your dad didn't side with the South, Abraham Lincoln's a pretty good example to provide.

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

Megaschmoo posted:

Do conservatives believe that the entire judicial system is part of some liberal conspiracy just like they believe all scientists are part of a climate change conspiracy?

This is flat earth forums type logic, how do they not realize how batshit insane they sound?

Yes, they think the judiciary is filled with liberals in key places, and the recent change to the filibuster rules is so that Obama can fill the open slots with radical marxists. "Liberal" in this case is defined as any judge who makes a decision they don't like even if that judge was appointed by Saint Reagan, pbuh.

MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

Notorious QIG posted:

It's in the OP of the political cartoons thread.



And with gas back under $3 a gallon....



THANKS OBAMA!!!

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


ErIog posted:

Yes, they think the judiciary is filled with liberals in key places, and the recent change to the filibuster rules is so that Obama can fill the open slots with radical marxists. "Liberal" in this case is defined as any judge who makes a decision they don't like even if that judge was appointed by Saint Reagan, pbuh.

"Liberal" means anyone to the left of George Wallace, and in that sense they are 100% correct that the judiciary is filled with liberals in key places. Hopefully it stays that way

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005

sweart gliwere posted:

The "veteran visits closed war memorial" stories got way more traction than deserved. I had to remind coworkers that for all the solemn elderly patriots going to DC for the first time, conveniently choosing the worst possible time in more than five years, there's going to be a few guys taking a leak or littering or dropping cigarettes. Maybe even graffiti. Not to mention basic public safety - was DC metro supposed to assign police officers to patrol every monument? Who's liable when somebody gets robbed or stabbed or raped at an unguarded memorial Republicans chose to close?

And right after that, contrast news coverage of "shutdown cost" with "Obamacare website cost" - we all know the shutdown cost an order of magnitude more, but of course the centrist insurance website catches more flack than the blatantly partisan shutdown.

Sorry, no, closing down open air monuments was dumb as hell. I can understand no permitting people entry into museums, but the Vietnam Memorial is a wall and a side walk. Why exactly did it need to be fenced off?

As far as who is liable if someone is assaulted, that would be the person who is doing the assaulting. The police are not responsible for ensuring the safety of any one person, and they're not held liable if a crime is committed in their jurisdiction.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Crowder being Crowder



Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!

It's not like gold grows out of the ground!

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


Ralepozozaxe posted:

It's not like gold grows out of the ground!

Everybody who's ever played any video game ever knows that gold just drops out of nowhere when you kill somebody.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003




The glorious start of the Mayan civilization.

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

TEAM NVIDIA:
FORUM POLICE

Notorious QIG posted:

Everybody who's ever played any video game ever knows that gold just drops out of nowhere when you kill somebody.

Through systematic testing and observation, I've noted that sometimes they also yell "BARF!".

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Armyman25 posted:

Sorry, no, closing down open air monuments was dumb as hell. I can understand no permitting people entry into museums, but the Vietnam Memorial is a wall and a side walk. Why exactly did it need to be fenced off?

As far as who is liable if someone is assaulted, that would be the person who is doing the assaulting. The police are not responsible for ensuring the safety of any one person, and they're not held liable if a crime is committed in their jurisdiction.

Shutting down the government is dumb as hell. Why do you give a gently caress about whether people can walk around some statues or not for a few days when we're shutting down actual important poo poo like women's shelters, scientific research, immigration paperwork, and child care?

It takes fewer people to man a barricade than it does to pick up trash, police, and maintain the monuments. If you think the shitfit was bad when some people couldn't go see free statues, just imagine how crazy people would have gone if we'd just said "gently caress it" and let our national monuments be trashed and vandalized.

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug
e:beat while alt+tabbed in msreader

Armyman25 posted:

Sorry, no, closing down open air monuments was dumb as hell. I can understand no permitting people entry into museums, but the Vietnam Memorial is a wall and a side walk. Why exactly did it need to be fenced off?

I mean the increase in blind-spot zones isn't a good thing, and sure person-to-person assaults weren't a good example. But I don't have a problem with the fencing. The government shut down, there were no staff available.

How about basic slip-and-fall legal problems, and the sort of ordinary issues that don't arise when you have staff walking around and handling problems? ADA noncompliance due to debris or disfigurement, some doofus greasing the path or leaving out shattered glass, vandals with graffiti or sledgehammers, whatever. You can't think of any problems involved with accepting "Hey, we're open but not patrolled anymore!" for what amount to street corners with fancy sculpture?

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

TEAM NVIDIA:
FORUM POLICE

sweart gliwere posted:

I mean the increase in blind-spot zones isn't a good thing, and sure person-to-person assaults weren't a good example. But I don't have a problem with the fencing. The government shut down, there were no staff available.

How about basic slip-and-fall legal problems, and the sort of ordinary issues that don't arise when you have staff walking around and handling problems? ADA noncompliance due to debris or disfigurement, some doofus greasing the path or leaving out shattered glass, vandals with graffiti or sledgehammers, whatever. You can't think of any problems involved with accepting "Hey, we're open but not patrolled anymore!" for what amount to street corners with fancy sculpture?

Yup, someone will take advantage of unattended areas to do risky things that will result in injuries and then negligence suits, or someone will go breaking poo poo up.

Even if something looks "unattended" normally, there's probably park people keeping half an eye on things for vandalism and safety, even if their job description is "mow the lawn" or "pick up trash".

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Crowder being Crowder





Crowder is aggressively stupid.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Crowder being Crowder




Then the guys with red beards killed and raped the other half too. :rip:

quote:



Genocide is cool :thumbsup:

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

I just saw a random conservative website claiming that liberals were blaming the NRA on ebola due to this article:

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-because-of-the-nra-20141012-column.html

In reality, the article is stating that we do not have a Surgeon General due to the NRA which is 100% true.
Thanks so much for this. I got a text message from the same idiot co-worker laughing at MSNBC for "blaming the NRA for Ebola." I knew it was something incredibly stupid, but now I can just send him the article and tell him, again, how CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING.

He'll play it off somehow, though. One thing they never do is admit being wrong about anything, ever.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

MariusLecter posted:

Genocide is cool :thumbsup:

The only moral genocide is my genocide.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

Dr. Faustus posted:

Thanks so much for this. I got a text message from the same idiot co-worker laughing at MSNBC for "blaming the NRA for Ebola." I knew it was something incredibly stupid, but now I can just send him the article and tell him, again, how CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING.

He'll play it off somehow, though. One thing they never do is admit being wrong about anything, ever.

He'll most likely see your effort to reply as "desperation" and won't even read the article.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

beatlegs posted:

He'll most likely see your effort to reply as "desperation" and won't even read the article.
Actually, you're half right. He won't read the article because he's loving lazy.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Crowder being Crowder





Man, where's a union thug when you need one?

Preferably a Native American one.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Oh look he explained his poo poo for brains

quote:

Happy Columbus Day! Today’s the day where progressives will indoctrinate your children into believing Columbus to be satan’s incarnate, and the USA to be his evil spawn. In order for progressives to support this idea, here are a few key facts that must be ignored.

– Native Americans were fighting and conquering each other since the beginning of their tribal existence. When the Europeans showed up, half of the Native Americans were upset, but the half that had been conquered, killed, tortured and watched their women get mutilated, enslaved and raped said “Thank God the pale, funny-hat wearing men with the beards showed up!”
– As an example: Mayans and Incans had gold. Lots of it. Like, copious amounts. The kind of bling that would make Flava Flav’ blush. How do you think they procured said gold? It was a simple process. They enslaved people and gave them two options: 1.) We kill you. 2.) Get us more gold. Far from the romanticized civilization of “peace” that you’d hear about in today’s revisionist media, which brings me to my next point…
– This peaceful, serene horseback culture we see depicted in the films couldn’t be less accurate. Native Americans hadn’t domesticated horses, and they didn’t even use the wheel. America was a brutal, primitive place.
– Finally, once contact has been made between a technologically advanced culture and a primitive one… conflict HAS to take place. Let’s say for a second that we never took this land and created what we now know as modern America. Let’s assume that it was still ruled by tribal warfare. Next thing you know, a plane shoots across the sky overhead.

… Contact has been made. There is no going back. What was that screeching iron eagle in the sky? Was it witchcraft? A group-hallucination induced by poisonous berries? Perhaps a life-form from another planet? Either way, the world has been changed forever.

One tribe has modern technology, the other doesn’t. The ones who don’t have it will want it. Conflict will occur, regardless of skin color.

Violations of human rights have occurred on all sides of conflict throughout the entire history of the world. To use America’s mistakes as the brush with which to pain the entirety of it’s history is inaccurate at best, dishonest at worst.

The United States has done more good than any nation to have come before it and as a country, we’ve got a lot to be proud of. No matter who’s running it.



Happy Columbus Day.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Megaschmoo posted:

Do conservatives believe that the entire judicial system is part of some liberal conspiracy just like they believe all scientists are part of a climate change conspiracy?

This is flat earth forums type logic, how do they not realize how batshit insane they sound?

You'll find that the same people are said to control both these groups by totally not neo-nazi just asking questions people.

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Oh look he explained his poo poo for brains

I really enjoy the completely out-of-nowhere dig at Obama at the end there. It's fine though, I'm sure this post wasn't meant to be too "political" :thumbsup:

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Oh look he explained his poo poo for brains

Columbus did evil things but everybody does evil things.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
It's okay because he did it for the glory of a Christian God.

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Oh look he explained his poo poo for brains
So where does the massive death due to diseases brought by Europeans come in? (A lot of which wasn't even intentional, people just didn't know poo poo about bacteria/viruses back then, and the Natives had no immunity.)


:stare:
They're rough estimates, but still, holy poo poo. And that's mostly before you get to the part where they started killing the natives on purpose.:stare:

Seriously, I wonder just how different history would be if the Native Americans had had immunity to European diseases, or if even the reverse had happened; imagine Columbus bringing something back to Europe that had the killing power of a second black plague.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
Just a reminder when Columbus reached Hispaniola the native population was either worked to death under the direction of Columbus himself in the growing, harvesting, and processing of sugar or died of disease brought by the Spanish. Columbus was so cruel that Spanish royal officials were horrified by the treatment the natives suffered at the hands of Columbus and his men. Pretty much all of the Caribbean native population was wiped out. There are no native tribes of the Caribbean, they went extinct.

Darkman Fanpage fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Oct 14, 2014

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.

quote:

RUSH: Since when did we start blaming the victims when they come down with a disease? And that's exactly what we're doing in the case of the nurse.

The nurse was wearing the fully recommended protective gear, according to the hospital. But get this, healthcare workers "can get infected with just tiny slips, like if they brush against an infected surface or accidentally touch the wrong part of their hazmat suit, then take off their suit the wrong way." Wait a minute. I thought this was hard to get. Didn't Obama tell us this was hard to get? Didn't Dr. Anthony Fauci tell us it's hard to get and all these experts are saying it's not communicable in the way other diseases are? You are not going to get it in the air. But then they say, "Be careful if somebody sneezes around you or blows their nose."

Here's a nurse in full recommended protected gear, recommended by the CDC, and she still came down with this disease, following every instruction available. And now we're going to blame her? Yeah, they say a protocol breach. It was a protocol breach. That's the explanation for the new Texas Ebola case. A protocol breach, whose protocol? What protocol?
...
Infections only occur when there's a breach in protocol? What you're telling me is, Dr. Frieden, that you have guaranteed procedures under which people will never contract the disease. Is that what you're telling me here? That only will somebody get the disease when there's a breach in protocol? Who establishes protocol? Human beings.

So what human beings have talked to this virus and what's the virus told them about how it spreads so that the protocols could be established, these fail safe infallible protocols? Why are they fail safe and infallible? "Because we establish them. We are good people." Really? Well, the nurse followed every protocol. Well, no, she didn't, the doctor is saying. It was the nurse's fault because if you followed protocol you won't get the disease. I thought it was hard to get anyway. Now people are getting it and they can't tell us how or why.

She wasn't in a hazmat suit. I want to be very clear. When they say that the nurse was wearing protective gear according to protocol, it was a gown, gloves, mask and one of those shields like V. Siviano was wearing after she got caught with Donald Sterling. It's not a full hazmat suit where you have your own external air supply and all that. But it's a shield and it protects you from inhaling anything. The gloves protect you.

Now, there have been medical workers in hazmat gear in Africa who have contracted it. So what they're saying is that she violated protocol somehow by brushing up against somebody or a surface that had the virus on it and then took the gear that she was wearing off improperly and exposed herself to it. All of that versus it's really hard to get, they told us. It sounds like it's pretty easy to get. If you can follow full protocol in terms of protective gear that the CDC recommends that you do, and if you can still get it... That's why people are saying, "What are you blaming the victim for?"

Well, these are liberals, folks. I know what some of you think, "Does everything, Mr. Limbaugh, come down to --" I'm sorry to say, if you want the honest answer, liberals are never to blame for anything. Somebody always has to be the scapegoat. Somebody's always going to take the hit. Not them. Not their plans. Not their ideology. Not their agenda. Not their policy. Somebody else is going to take the fall for everything they screw up, yes.

Do you feel this is true?
"Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health, said on Sunday the system put into place to slow the spread of Ebola transmission in the United States was working. 'The system worked,' Fauci said on ABC’s This Week."

That's what Janet Napolitano said about the underwear bomber. He was only prevented from blowing up a plane on Christmas Day by some passengers. This is another thing. When a terror plot is foiled the first people to come in and claim that their policies work are the Democrats. This was a bunch of passengers on a plane who discovered the underwear bomber.

Do you feel like the system's working? I mean, if you did, if you do, that means you're confident.
...
RUSH: Here's George in Charleston, South Carolina. Hello, George, welcome to the show.

CALLER: Thank you. This has been quite a while since I tried to call in here. After my lecture from Snerdley, I'll try to get to the point and cease the accolades. The point I'm trying to make, is that the liberal spin to this whole Ebola thing and this African man that came over, boarded the plane knowing that he probably had Ebola. Coming in and infecting a whole country possibly, should be treated like a man who had AIDS knowingly spreading it around. It's a crime. They're making him out to be sort of a, not a hero, but sort of a folk hero. This guy wasn't treated well because we have a negative predisposition toward African people --

RUSH: He's serving a precise purpose for the race industry. He's allowing them to say that he was not treated or given the same treatment as white people were or because he's from Africa. So he's really being painted as a giant victim. Who could blame him for wanting to come here. If you had it you'd do the same thing. He never had a chance because this is a racist country that once had slaves. That's basically the answer. But nobody's ever going to treat him as a criminal, no matter what.


BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Here's Dr. Frieden at the Centers for Disease Control, he's the director, at his press conference this afternoon in Atlanta. Here's the apology to the nurse for violating protocols.

FRIEDEN: I want to clarify something I said yesterday. I spoke about a breach in protocol and that’s what we speak about in public health when we’re talking about what needs to happen. And our focus is to say, "Would this protocol have prevented the infection?" And we believe it would have. But some interpreted that as finding fault with the hospital or the healthcare worker. And I’m sorry if that was the impression given. That was certainly not my intention.

RUSH: (imitating Frieden) "So I apologize if you thought I was blaming the nurse. I was, but you weren't supposed to get that. But if you did, I apologize." See, we're not capable of understanding the way these guys think and talk. They're superior to us. And he says, "I spoke about breach in protocol and that's what we speak about here in public health when we're talking about what needs to happen. And our focus is to say, 'Would this protocol have prevented the infection?' And we believe it would have."

Okay. You also believed it was violated. So the apology is, what? It's kind of moot, isn't it? He's standing by what he said. He's just apologizing if you understood what he was saying, essentially. I love these public apologies. "I'm sorry. That's not who I am." Don't you love that one? "That's not who I am. I do not abuse women. I do not rob convenience stores and I certainly don't point guns at people. That was not me and I apologize if anybody was offended."

So you never really apologized for what you did. You claim you didn't do it. And then you apologize for offending people if they got offended. But you never apologized for what you did. They have this down pat. I don't care who it is. There's a full-on apology think tank business here that teaches people how to do it.

You know, ladies and gentlemen, I spend a lot of time reading things written by leftists. I have for a long time, and this is how I know who they are. It's how I know what they believe, because they tell us. Now, oftentimes they camouflage it. But if you have a large enough base of knowledge about them you know when they're camouflaging and masking themselves. It's not hard. It's one of the things that's an ongoing frustration of mine. It's not hard to understand these people. It's not hard to find out who they are, what they really believe.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2...calls_him_on_it
Holy poo poo that's a lot to unpack. So Duncan should be treated like a criminal? I think the dude is dead, so good luck with that. And never ending :ironicat: to Limbaugh for ripping on someone for issuing a public non-apology for something.

quote:

RUSH: "Republican Cuts Kill."

The Huffington Post picks it up. That first story was Mediaite. The Huffington Post: "Ebola Vaccine Would Likely Have Been Found By Now If Not For Budget Cuts," according to the NIH Director. So now the Drive-Bys and the rest of the Democrat Party are blaming Ebola on the cuts that took place in the sequester. The Democrats are even running a campaign ad that I mentioned called "Republican Cuts Kill." What good does it do to remind anybody the sequester was Obama's idea? What good does it do to remind anybody Obama demanded the sequester?

Obama thought that he was pigeonholing the Republicans. He thought by demanding the sequester, which meant in the Republican view defense department cuts, that they'd never go for it. It was Obama's idea to do the sequester and he thought he had a winning hand by agreeing that there would be Medicare, whatever, some social welfare cuts in exchange for Medicare cuts. Republicans will never go for cutting the defense budget. But they did it and so the sequester was Obama's idea. Obama refused to allow any changes to sequester cuts.


But the truth is the NIH director here is not even talking about sequester cuts. He's talking about a decrease in spending over the last 10 years, but there hasn't been. The truth of the matter, you want the numbers? The CDC actually had their budget triple from 2001 to 2010 and what did they do with the money? What do you think?

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Here's the ad. We've got the audio of the ad, it's The Agenda Project. We got it here off YouTube, but they're running the ad wherever they can. It's titled "Republican Cuts Kill" and it blames Republicans for the Ebola outbreak.
[the ad of a million cuts airs]
RUSH: Every voice that you heard using the word "cut" was a Republican. Now remember, this is a video commercial so the pictures of all those Republicans were on this ad and everybody objecting was, for example, Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health or any other number of official-looking Democrats, but it was all "cut, cut, cut."

Bobby Jindal has written a piece that's out just yesterday, "The Facts About Ebola Funding."

What difference does it make, though? The ad is out there. We can give you the truth of the matter like we've given you the truth of everything over 25 years and the low-information crowd is still going to believe what they see. The fact is it's all lies. There have not been any cuts.

"In recent years, the CDC has received significant amounts of funding." Everybody knows there isn't anything being cut in this government! "Unfortunately, however, many of those funds have been diverted away from programs that can fight infectious diseases, and toward programs far afield from the CDC’s original purpose. Consider the Prevention and Public Health Fund, a new series of annual mandatory appropriations created by Obamacare.

"Over the past five years, the CDC has received just under $3 billion in transfers from the fund. Yet only 6 percent -- $180 million -- of that $3 billion went toward building epidemiology and laboratory capacity. Especially given the agency’s postwar roots as the Communicable Disease Center, one would think that 'detecting and responding to infectious diseases and other public health threats' warrants a larger funding commitment. Instead, the Obama administration has focused the CDC on other priorities."

They're doing community outreach. They're doing voter registration and they're doing community organizing things with these budget increases that they're getting. They've been politicized.


BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: This nurse in Dallas, the second known Ebola patient or case in the United States, and I think the first case actually transmitted in the US, they're all panicking, "What happened? We're in charge now. This shouldn't happen." And ladies and gentlemen, please don't automatically reject that as exaggeration. I really have no desire for anybody to be confused here.

Sometimes I do parody and satire, but I'm really serious when I tell you that the mindset of many liberals is just their presence alone means the difference. Their presence alone, you don't have to do anything but show up, means change. Obama's presence was going to cause terrorists to not be mean and Obama's presence was going to make the world love us. Obama's presence was going to stop global warming and the way it happens is the inherent decency, the inherent goodness and the arrival on the scene of this person has so much influence over mere mortals that everybody begins to behave. The evil stop doing evil things. Bad people stop doing bad things, and we all start to get along. And soon we'll be in utopia.

That is not an exaggeration.
They never roll up and get down to the substance of things, because the substance of things, something they don't even squarely face, the substance, the bad things out there are all explained by the absence of liberals. Crime, that's because they're Republicans. Crime is because of capitalism. Crime is because of the gap between rich and poor. If you eliminate that, if you raise taxes and you take all the money away from the rich then the poor are going to be happy and the bad guys won't be upset about anything. They'll stop committing crime. There won't be any reason to because everybody will have more money because the Democrats are going to be redistribute. They think this way. They really do believe in the power of their own existence.

Obama believes the world is governed by the aggressive use of speeches and words. And of course the world doesn't function that way at all. So you've got people in positions of power and authority who really don't know what they're doing. This guy at the Centers for Disease Control, Dr. Thomas Frieden, for those of you who haven't heard, he was Mayor Bloomberg's health police force essentially. He's the guy that ran the anti-trans fats program. He's the guy that ran the no soft drink can be bigger than 16 ounces. He's the guy that banned smoking everywhere in New York. Nowhere, no how. A genuine fanatic not at all rooted in reality.

Now this guy's running the CDC. And as Bobby Jindal's op-ed points out, the CDC got plenty of money. They got budget increases, significant budget increases, $3 million increases. What's the actual number? The CDC received significant amounts of funding increases. The vast majority of the new money the CDC got, and it predates Frieden getting there, but nevertheless, the vast majority of the money the CDC got didn't go to build up the preventive disease program or the communicable disease center. No, just like when it came time to set up the health exchanges in the states, the vast majority of the money went to unions and other groups to do voter registration rather than actually set up healthcare exchanges.

These are just a bunch of people snatching money from the Federal Treasury, money that really isn't there, by the way, because of our debt, but they're snatching money. Just like the stimulus was under the guise of shovel ready jobs rebuilding roads and bridges. But where did it end up going? The vast majority, over 75 percent, went to unions, teachers in the states to make sure they didn't lose their jobs in the recession. There weren't any shovel ready jobs that were funded. There weren't any school or road repairs that went on.

It's all a big joke. All the increased funding the CDC got, something like 6 percent of it went to dealing with things like Ebola. The rest went to community outreach and so forth. Every federal agency has been turned into community organizing. Registering of Democrat voters, passing out money to disadvantaged people to buy votes. That's what it's all been turned into. So now when a genuine crisis erupts, there's no infrastructure in place to deal with it at the CDC. They've diverted the money to other things.


So it's time to trot out old reliable: Republicans are to blame. Yessirree Bob, Republican budget cuts, because Republicans don't care about other people. The Republicans don't care about sick people. So we'll blame them. Why not? Everybody will believe us, the media will report it. We'll do a couple of ads and everybody will think the Republicans are responsible for this.

Where do these vaccines come from, by the way? Where does the research and development on vaccines, cures, you name it, treatment, where does it all happen? It doesn't happen at the CDC, does it? It doesn't happen at the Institutes for Health. No it happens in the private sector. I'm sorry, it happens where private enterprise takes place. It happens where there are scientific research and development companies who earn a profit.

Now, I wonder what kind of regulations have been imposed on them by agencies like the Food and Drug Administration. I have no idea, but I would venture to say here that a lot of innovation, ingenuity and creativity is being stifled in the name of big government by overregulation. Why do we have a shortage of this serum? I know it only comes from one tobacco plant in Kentucky, why is there a shortage?


In the United States of America, this doesn't happen. Shortages of this kind of thing happen in lesser developed countries. Why is this happening here? Why all of a sudden are we inept? Why all of a sudden are we not competent to deal with this? Why all of a sudden are we not the place to turn to when outbreaks like this happen?
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Every gubmint agency is just a front for registering Democrats to vote, who are in fact not real people anyway and something something rampant voter fraud stealing elections!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bahgawd:

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RUSH: Here's Bill on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Great to have you. Thank you for your patience.

CALLER: Rush, hi. This is a distinct honor and privilege. I've listened to you a long time and this is my first call. I just want to say this is the ultra-liberal Upper West Side and it's the epicenter of chutzpah.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: I thought that the Democrat ad you opened your show with -- the one that blames Republican budget cuts for the Ebola crisis --

RUSH: Right.

CALLER: -- was uber-chutzpah on the part of these people who are running the ad. And I quickly worked up a list of about a half-dozen health issues that I believe Republicans and conservatives ought to blame Democrats for. Let me just give you some of them. You might find them interesting.

RUSH: All right.

CALLER: I think there's an epidemic of eye strain and bad eyesight that we can lay at the feet of these high-efficiency light bulbs that we're being forced to use in place of the wonderfully warm incandescent bulbs that we can no longer buy in the store.


RUSH: (chuckling) Yes.

CALLER: So that would be one issue. I think that the Affordable Care Act, which threw the health care system into total chaos, is going to be responsible for doctors seeing disease at a more severe level than they might have otherwise because people are going to doctors later. They've lost their old doctors that they liked. They don't know who is in the network. They can't find new doctors. This is a Democrat health issue, and I think we have to start talking about it.

A third one would be there are higher death rates in certain automobile collisions and that is because politicians -- Democrat politicians -- are forcing ever-higher MPG requirements on new cars, and the only way that automobile engineers can respond to that is by building cars that are lighter and lighter in weight. Beside the airbags and seatbelts, those cars are unsafe because they're so lightweight.

RUSH: Let me stop you here, and let's talk theoretically here for just a second. What we have as your starting point is the Democrats get away with blaming Republicans for, in this case, this threat of Ebola. They got away with blaming Republicans for starving kids in 1995. Now, you may not... Not you Bill, but some of you in the audience who weren't alive or paying attention, you might laugh at that.

But there were people believe it, just like the War on Women. There are people that actually think the Republicans hate women, don't want them to ever have sex, don't want them to ever have an abortion, don't want them to have birth control pills, don't want them to ever do anything but stay barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen and never leave.

There are people that think of that of the Republicans. Now they come and blame the Republicans with the spread of Ebola. Do you think...? Bill, seriously now, because I know you're trying to be humorous. Do you think the Republicans trying the same tact, whatever the subject matter, i.e., blaming Democrats for this ill or that failure or whatever, would work?

CALLER: Well, I think it's always risky when anybody plays the blame game. So this has to be done in kind of a light-handed manner. But there were just so many things. I'm thinking, for example, about Bill Clinton and his Lewinsky. We know that there's a bona fide epidemic of what is sexually transmitted diseases in the country, particularly diseases that are transmitted through what doctors call "oral mucosa," and for your Rio Linda audience, oral mucosa just means into the mouth and throat where the germs go.

RUSH: They know.

CALLER: Oh, they do?

RUSH: Yeah. They know what that is.

CALLER: Okay. Good. I'm thinking of this Human Papillomavirus that is actually causing an upswing in throat cancers. I mean, this is Bill Clinton and his Lewinsky. He gave people license, because that's not really sex what happened there.

RUSH: Here's my thinking on this. I'm trying to think of the effectiveness of this, because this has been my quest has been how to sway people of the truth of the results of life if the Democrat Party wins; the truth of the impact on your life if liberals end up controlling it. Sometimes, I question whether doing that works. Not all the time obviously because I know it does on occasion.

But look at right now. We are in one of the biggest economic declines since the Great Depression. One party is responsible for it, primarily. Now, the Republicans, you could make a case that they engaged in some of the big spending and so forth that got us in trouble and the bailouts. Yeah, yeah. But this economic model we're living under is right out of the Democrat Party -- and the worst victims of it are African-Americans.

African-Americans have been hurt more by the Obama presidency than any other group, and they love him more than ever. My point here is: If you can't even convince people that their economic... Like millennials coming out of college with no jobs, nothing but mounting student loan debit.

If you can't convince them that all of this is primarily resulting from Democrat Party policy, then how are you going to end up succeeding in blaming them for some of the things on your list? I think it goes deeper than the blame. I think for the Democrat blame to work -- either War on Women or School Lunch Cuts -- there has to have been, first, a successful attack on the Republican brand. Without that, none of this would work.

And one of the reasons why that successful attack on the Republican brand has been made is because the Republicans don't push back. One thing you're right about, Republicans have given up defining who Democrats are. They don't do it anymore. They don't try to define Democrats. They don't call them liberals. They don't explain what that means. And, as such, the Democrat brand is rock solid.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/10/13/upper_west_side_caller_says_democrats_blaming_republicans_for_ebola_is_uber_chutzpah

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Let's not forget taking child sex slaves and cutting people's hands off worn around their neck

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Just a reminder when Columbus reached Hispaniola the native population was either worked to death under the direction of Columbus himself in the growing, harvesting, and processing of sugar or died of disease brought by the Spanish. Columbus was so cruel that Spanish royal officials were horrified by the treatment the natives suffered at the hands of Columbus and his men. Pretty much all of the Caribbean native population was wiped out. There are no native tribes of the Caribbean, they went extinct.

It was pretty much the same kinds of stuff that Leopold did in the Congo. Workers were told to gather a certain quota of gold and in exchange were given copper medallions. If they were caught without the medallion they'd get their hands cut off.

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beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

Columbus was a sick, sociopathic, racist gently caress. That conservatives are defending him is completely unsurprising at this point, even expected.

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