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Chromius posted:My vote is for another run of Tokimemo 2 because the game's characters just seem more interesting and a little less archetypal than the guys in the Girl's Side games. Chromius posted:the game's characters just seem more interesting and a little less archetypal than the guys in the Girl's Side games. Chromius posted:less archetypal  e: I love the TM2 cast but they're just two anime archetypes shoved together most of the time. Even Mei, my favorite, is just "rich girl" archetype and "science girl" archetype.
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Dating games pretty much function on archtypes. I'd be more surprised to find a game where each pursuable character isn't an anime shorthand for "smart person" "cool person" etc.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Well, everyone's entitled to their opinion, I guess I honestly don't care about whether someone is an archetype or not. Archetypes are fine fictional tools. However, most of the cast in Tokimemo 2 are actually having fun, which makes the game more fun around them since the cast is the only reason people play these games in the first place. The Girl's Side cast has been pretty one-note in contrast, and in most cases that single note is really dull. Kei spends most of his time mumbling monosyllables and somehow being Mr. Perfect without ever actually smiling. Shiki and Mizuki are hilariously full of themselves but Mizuki dresses better. Icehouse 01 is pretty good at his job but has shown zero signs of personality otherwise. Wataru and Kazuma are two sides of the same sports coin, one of them the me-first star athlete (who isn't so bad once you get to know him) and the other the hard-working underdog (who is basically a puppy who can form words). The two of them having on-the-field/court and off-the-field/court personalities is pretty much what makes the two of them my favorites. Sramaker posted:
Yes. I have the video ready for the end, so the cast can flesh out a bit. There are only really 3 characters left, though. e: NullBlack posted:Remember though, we can't consider GS1 done until we've talked all possible characters into jumping off the cliff. This is incredibly tempting. Pictured: 8 seconds that actually got me to admit that Shiki can be fun. 
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Yeah, archetypes allow for some assumptions to make the players' analysis of the characters faster. Sure, its lazy, but writing a nuanced characters (much less 5+ likable ones) may be time consuming enough that it could be cost prohibitive. There is also the fact that events are limited and the memory space may be an issue. I don't think media can ever come close to portraying a fleshed out cast of personalities because that would require a massive game/movie. That said, if your characters are basically cardboard cutouts, then you're not trying hard enough. Its not that hard to give characters slightly interesting motivations; a small conflict in their lives would do just fine.
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I can't think of a single dating sim/VN that I couldn't describe the vast majority of characters in one or two words. The real determiner of character quality is if those two words describe everything about them, or if they act like actual people.
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I think we can agree that despite how they written the characters the ones in Girls Side except Stranger Danger are better written than the Tokimeki Memorial 3 (except Serika and Emi).
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vibratingsheep posted:Pictured: 8 seconds that actually got me to admit that Shiki can be fun. I have no idea what this is. But I like it.
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Spiritus Nox posted:I have no idea what this is. 三！ 二！ 一！ バンジー！
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Tokimemo Girl's Side, Chapter 11: I Won't Say (I'm In Love) 7/1: We're still allowed to be friends with Tamami  Tamami: Midterms are coming up really soon. Tamami: How're your studies going? Goonko: They're going, I guess.  Tamami: Yeah, same with me. But... Tamami: I really wish it was over. I want to go back to basketball. Goonko: (I need to study harder!)  Goonko wasn't lying. She really needs to study harder. Her Academics stat has hit a new low at 22, and even hanging out with Shiho to copy her notes isn't enough to get her to 30. It's not the greatest situation. But at least she's good at basketball. 7/7-7/11: Midterms, and a brush with Shiho  Yep, that about sums it up.  Goonko: (I hung around chatting with the other girls after class, and now it's really late.) Goonko: (Hmm? Is that Arisawa-san?)  Goonko: Arisawa-san? Shiho: Fudou-san. Goonko: You're not usually around this late. Shiho: I was asking Himuro-sensei about some math problems and-- Shiho: Oh no, what time is it? Goonko: Right now? It's...  Shiho: I'm gonna be late to prep school! Goonko: Arisawa-san? Shiho: Sorry, I have to run! Shiho: Bye! Shiho: You should probably go home and study too! 7/12: Test results  7th: Arisawa Shiho 86th: Hazuki Kei 94th: Mihara Shiki 137th: Konno Tamami 147th: Sudou Mizuki 180th: Fudou Kimiko 245th: Suzuka Kazuma Sadly, Kei falling asleep during a test overrides any other event discussing grades, so all we get after this is the usual "What happened?" "Slept." bit of scintillating dialogue. 7/13: Summer shopping  I actually had to reload because I scheduled a date with Kazuma and didn't have anything other than a PE swimsuit. Outside of a school setting, wearing a school swimsuit is a double whammy: it means one or both of "I can't afford anything other than my school-assigned uniform" and "I am here to fuel your fetishes".  Much better. Now we'll have something sporty that Kazuma will like.  Goonko: Okay, time to head home. (THUMP) Goonko: Ack!  Goonko: Hey... ???: ... Goonko: Ow ow ow... ??: ...  Goonko: What was that? Goonko: Would it hurt so much just to say "Sorry"? Goonko: Whatever.  And on coming home, there's a new e-mail from our pen pal Chiharu! Let's see if his written Japanese is better than his English.  Nope. Just like his English, his Japanese is a bit halting and awkward. He uses commas instead of particles, which really kills the flow of his sentences. I'll try and preserve some of that in translation. It kind of turns into found poetry with how he breaks up each line. Kimiko. Sorry for bothering you. My parents, they're in America. I wanted, to send my mail to them. Your e-mail address, it's one letter different from theirs. I, sent it to you by mistake. Sorry. But your mail to me, it made me happy. You, wrote a very polite message. I, very moved. I, living alone in Japan. I, hardly speak Japanese. I, very nervous every day. Japanese people nice. But I, can't communication. And so, it makes wall. How can I break this wall? I, again wrote a weird mail. Sorry. Chiharu (ちはる)  Goonko: Ummmm... Goonko: I'm pretty sure this means he's having trouble living in Japan, right? Option 1: If there's anything I can do for you, I'll help. Option 2: I can't help you, but I wish you luck.  If there's anything I can do for you, I'll help. Goonko: This must be fate. Goonko: I'll help him out! Goonko: I'll start by introducing myself. Goonko: "I'm a high school student--" Based on romance logic, the blue-haired mute that we met earlier pretty much has to be Chiharu. Poor guy. 8/5: Flowers for Kazuma  Kazuma: Yo, Fudou! I dropped by to see how you're doing. Goonko: Hey, Suzuka-kun. What're you doing here? Kazuma: Flowers are really pretty, aren't they? Kazuma: I never paid attention to them before. Kazuma: Anyway, I'll catch you later. Good luck! 8/10: Kazuma and the beach  There we go. A sporty swimsuit for a sporty girl and her sporty guy.  And, at this point, I finally gave in to silliness after 2 weeks of teasing the stream viewers by equipping the Wave Motion Sword. What I think Goonko looks like right now, part 20:   Kazuma: Alright! Time to swim! Kazuma: See you in a bit. Goonko: Okay, I'll go change really quickly.  Kazuma: Whoa, that looks like it'll be really fast. Goonko: Y, you think so? Kazuma: Yeah, it's made really well to minimize resistance when you're swimming. Kazuma: That's how every swimsuit should me, you know? Goonko: (I'm so glad I chose this one.) Average teenage boy: Yes show me that skin Kazuma, anime athlete: Let's race vroom vroom  Kazuma: Alright! Let's swim all day! Option 1: Yeah, I wanna swim all day. Option 2: I wanna relax on the shore. Option 3: I'm hungry, let's go find something to eat.  Goonko: Yeah, I wanna swim all day. Kazuma: Yeah! Let's get in the water. Goonko: (Yay! A perfect impression!)  Kazuma: Today was way too short. It feels like we haven't done enough, you know? Kazuma: Let's do this again some time. Kazuma: I'll walk you home. Kazuma: It's a guy's duty, or something like that.  Goonko: Thanks for walking me home! Kazuma: Nah, don't worry about-- (ring tone) Goonko: Oh, sorry, someone's calling me. Goonko: Hello? Kei: It's Hazuki. Kei: Can we talk? Goonko: Uh... I'll call you back later! Sorry! (click) Kazuma: What's going on? Goonko: That was, uh, just a friend calling. Kazuma: Huh. Anyway, I'm gonna head home. Later. Goonko: Okay, bye!  Goonko: (That was pretty rude to Hazuki-kun.) Goonko: (I should probably call him back.) And that is how Tokimemo Girl's Side warns you about bombs. Good to know! 8/11-8/16: Basketball camp  Kazuma: Yo, Fudou. We've been waiting so long, and camp is finally here. Goonko: Oh, hi Suzuka-kun.  Kazuma: We can play all the basketball we want! Isn't that exciting? Goonko: (Time to play hard!)  Tamami: Kimiko-chan! Today's the first day of summer camp. Goonko: Yeah! Tamami: Uh, umm... it's really hot, so don't wear yourself out, okay? Goonko: I'll be fine. If I start feeling bad, I'll be sure to let you know, Tamami-chan! Tamami: Okay! 8/14: Goonko's turn to cook  Goonko: What should I prepare tonight? Option 1: Curry from a retort pouch Option 2: Deluxe curry rice Option 3: Mutton saag As we learned last year, these are listed in order of difficulty, and Goonko's Social score determines her ability to cook since it also controls her Home Ec test score. Goonko is somehow an amazing cook who just can't make chocolate, so we'll make up for it by feeding Kazuma some lamb.  Kazuma: Whoa! This looks awesome! Kazuma: Do you always cook stuff like this? Goonko: Eat up! In my imagination, Mizuki has rubbed off on Goonko and Goonko replies with something like "Kimiko always has wonderful meals like this at home!"  Kazuma: That's the first time I've ever had mutton. Kazuma: You are an unbelievably good chef - can you make this again some time?  Tamami: Umm, dinner was amazing. Tamami: I can't believe we'd have something this good at camp. Goonko: (I'm glad they liked it!) 8/16: Summer camp ends  Kazuma: Yo, Fudou! You kept up with us really well. Kazuma: Great job! Goonko: (It feels like I've gotten better too.)  Tamami: Umm... good job. You worked really hard. Tamami: I definitely think you improved. Goonko: (A little bit, I guess.)  Goonko: Time to head home! Goonko: Hmm? What's this box? Goonko: W, wow! Fudou Kimiko gained the basketball heirloom, "Steel courage"! This time, the bonus item is worth +10 Fitness, so it's a much more noticeable boost than last year's +5. 8/28: Kazuma also received some courage  Goonko: (Hmm? Who could be calling?) Goonko: Hello, this is Fudou Kimiko. Kazuma: Uh, umm, this is Suzuka. Goonko: Ooh, Suzuka-kun. Yeees? Kazuma: Uh, say... you, uh, you doing anything on Sunday? Goonko: Nothing in particular. Kazuma: So, uh, in that case, wanna g, go bowling? Goonko: Uh-huh! Kazuma: R, really? Alright, it's on! Goonko: So is it okay if I wait for you at the station tomorrow? Kazuma: Y, yeah! Sunday. Don't forget! Kazuma has stuttered more in the last 15 seconds than he's stuttered in the previous year and a half. It only gets dorkier from here, which is pretty hard to believe. 8/24: Bowling!  Since Kazuma didn't comment on Goonko wearing a sword to their last date, it's going to stay on until further notice. Can't hurt, might help, right?  Goonko: Hey, sorry to keep you waiting! Kazuma: Y, yo. I started wondering if you were coming at all. Goonko: It took longer than I thought to get ready. Kazuma: Yeah? I guess you're a girl after all. Goonko: That's so mean! Kazuma: Hey, I appreciate it, okay? This is an all-new conversation with Kazuma, with a lot more stuttering and flushing than before. It's all smooth sailing from here, girls!  Kazuma: What do you want to do today? Goonko: Let's shoot some pool. Kazuma: Pool, huh? Might as well give it a shot. Option 1: It'd be great if you could teach me. Option 2: Let's see who's better! Option 3: It's just a game, so we should take it easy. Aaaand time to put this boy right back in his comfort zone.  Goonko: Let's see who's better! Kazuma: Alright! I don't really know the rules, but I accept your challenge! Goonko: (Mm-hmm, that went pretty well.)  Kazuma: So, uh, thanks for coming. Goonko: Huh? Something wrong? Your face is all red.  Kazuma: Wh, what?! It's not what you think! Kazuma: I, I'm just worked up because I had so much fun!  Kazuma: Hey, you still have some time? Kazuma: Can we spend some more time together? Goonko: Yeah, that's fine. Kazuma: Cool, let's take a little detour on the way home.  Mechanically, this event is the same as the after-school chat, so it's a nice little way to learn more about the characters. Goonko: Say, Suzuka-kun, what kind of food do you like? Kazuma: Huh? Hmm, well, I eat a lot of fish. Goonko: I heard the bones are really good for you. Kazuma: I guess. I drink a lot of milk too, so I guess I'm a big lump of calcium. How... attractive. 8/30: Get a status update, reload, and call Kei  Hello, giant pulsing bomb. Time to reload and defuse you before Kei self-destructs.  Goonko: Wanna go shopping with me on the 7th? Kei: ... Kei: No. Goonko: Oh, okay. Kei: (click) Goonko: (Well, that was disappointing.) Purely from a mechanical standpoint, the act of calling the boy is enough to defuse the bomb. That means that it's actually a great idea to suggest awful dates in order to defuse the bomb without having to waste two days, which is fine by me! 9/3-9/4: Wataru's birthday  Option 1: Current hit CD Option 2: Combining Robot Volbabin Option 3: Beginner's Guide to Habataki City I went with the most neutral-seeming option, the pop CD.  Goonko: Hey, Hibiya-kun! Wataru: Oh, hi senpai. What's up? Goonko: Today's your birthday, right? I got you a present! Wataru: Oh, you remembered my birthday? Thank you! Wataru: I wonder what it is? Dude, can I open it? Goonko: Of course you can!  Wataru: Dude, you have good taste, senpai! Wataru: I'll start using this today, man. Goonko: (Hmm, he seemed pretty happy about it.) 9/5: Kazuma strikes again  Kazuma: H, hey, Kimiko. Goonko: Oh, hi Suzuka-kun. Yeeees? Kazuma: So, you busy this Sunday? Goonko: Not really. Kazuma: So, uh, you wanna go catch a movie? Goonko: Yup! Kazuma: R, really? Alright, it's on! 9/7: Action!  Kazuma: Where should we sit? Kazuma: There are some empty seats over there.  The Girl's Side movies don't come with synopses by the main character, so I had to look up what this movie is. It's called "SPINNING" and I have no idea what that's supposed to be based on. Looks pretty badass, though.  Goonko: That movie was great! Kazuma: Well, it wasn't bad. Kazuma: I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Goonko: (Mm-hmm, that went pretty well.) Fast-forward, and we get to:  Goonko: Say, Suzuka-kun. What do you watch on TV? Kazuma: Me? I watch a lot of sports, I guess. Goonko: Hahaha, that's exactly what I thought you'd say. Kazuma: Really? But, umm, I watch movies on TV too.  Goonko: But I bet they're all superhero flicks. Kazuma: Well, yeah. I enjoy all sorts of action, like kung fu movies and stuff. Goonko: And let me guess, you're one of the guys who walks out of the theater and mimics all the hero's moves? Kazuma: drat straight!  Kazuma: I, I mean, no! I've never done that before, it's stupid! 9/15: The class trip (and all its permutations)  Goonko's Academics are at an all-time low at 18. But hey, who cares? It's time for class trip shenanigans! It's time for the generic trip to Kyoto/Nara and its historic sites.  Goonko: We have a group tour today. We're checking out a bunch of the tourist spots that are scattered around. 9/16: Free time, part 1  Kazuma: H, hey, Kimiko. Goonko: Hey Suzuka-kun. What's up? Kazuma: Say, about today's free time. Have you made any plans with anyone? Kazuma: And if you haven't, wanna go sightseeing with me? Goonko: Sure, that's fine. Kazuma: Really? Kazuma: There's one place I really wanna check out. C'mon!  Kazuma: That's Kinkaku-ji, right? Kazuma: You don't even have to check the guidebook to know that.  Kazuma: It's pretty gaudy. It's almost like it came from heaven or something. Goonko: Ahaha, you're right, it's so shiny that it feels like Buddha just might step out of it. Kazuma: But man, I don't understand how rich and powerful people think at all. Kazuma: How can you live in a place like that? Goonko: From what I know, you wake up to the smell of croissants every day, and there's a string quartet playing in the salon, and... Kazuma: I just, you know, I would prefer something more normal-looking. Kazuma: Anyway, let's head to the next spot.  Kazuma: Oh, we're already back at the hotel. Kazuma: Hey, thanks for... you know, coming with me today. Goonko: No, I should thank you. It was really fun. Kazuma: Really? 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Press Circle to pick a pillow up off the ground, or time it to catch one being thrown at you. Once you catch a pillow, you can either throw it to the other team's side of the room, or hold X to charge up a super throw that changes properties depending on your club of choice. The game ends either when one side is completely free of pillows, or when Icehouse 01 shows up to yell at everyone.   Getting hit by a pillow stuns you, and if you're unlucky/greedy enough to get both characters stunned, then it's a quick ticket to a loss. But since this mini-game replaces the RPG mini-game for club-unique supers, it's definitely worth reloading just to see what the supers look like.  Step 1: disable Mizuki and Shiki to buy some time and get a lead.  Step 2: Knock Shiki out of the Art Club super, Pigment Split - splitting into RGB lets him triple his attacks.   Step 3: CHAOS DUNK! Kazuma and Goonko, as members of the basketball club, both have Niagara Dunk as their super. Tamami does not, because she's just the manager and cannot dunk.  Step 4: Victory!  Reiichi: Be quiet! It's long past lights out! Boy: Crap! Everyone hide! Goonko: (I need to find a hiding spot!) Option 1: Hide in the closet Option 2: Hide in a futon Option 3: Hide under the table It's an old cliche in high school stories that the hiding place will be shared by exactly two people, who can barely fit inside and very quickly become uncomfortably hot and steamy. Let's try to hit Kazuma in the lottery, though I'll accept Mizuki too because I imagine that her reaction will be hilarious.  Hide in a closet Goonko: (What?! Someone hid here first!) Goonko: (Ahh, our bodies are pressed up against each other. But I can't say anything or we'll be caught.) Goonko: (My heart's racing so fast, I hope he can't hear it!) Reiichi: Don't you students understand your responsibilities? Reiichi: Get ready for tomorrow and go to sleep. Boy: ...I think he's gone. Boy: You can come out now!  Goonko: Mihara-kun?! Shiki: Fudou-kun. You're so bold... Shiki: Don't worry about it. I don't mind. What I think Goonko looks like right now, part 21:  Next time: Every possible permutation of this event, for hilarity's sake.  Tamami's super stuns both boys for 5 seconds. Which would be great if she hadn't stolen our man! vibratingsheep fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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quote:Option 2: Combining Robot Volbabin I don't suppose you can ever find out what this looks like?
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I guess we're never gonna meet smart dude and Shiho's love interest.
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In the interest of full disclosure, I think everyone should know that Sheep has a Dropbox folder dedicated to like a hundred of these.
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vibratingsheep posted:
I adore how the pillow throwing mini-game has supers that look like you're awakening to your Persona. this game is just too silly and adorable
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vibratingsheep posted:
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:I adore how the pillow throwing mini-game has supers that look like you're awakening to your Persona. I just like how everyone else gets their standard, detailed close up but Goonko has her bland, black-eyed simple cut-in.
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Section Z posted:I don't suppose you can ever find out what this looks like? Not in the game. Even if you buy it for him, there's no picture. I have no idea of the supplementary materials show any of these things as an icon. Tired Moritz posted:I guess we're never gonna meet smart dude and Shiho's love interest. "Smart dude" and "Shiho's love interest" are the same person, and Goonko's far too dumb at this point to meet him. I have video of what the meeting is like and will post it as supplemental material at the end of this playthrough. SuccinctAndPunchy posted:I adore how the pillow throwing mini-game has supers that look like you're awakening to your Persona. Spoiler for next post: this is Mizuki's super, Fireball Smash de Paris.  Did you remember that she's in the tennis club? I totally forgot.
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vibratingsheep posted:Spoiler for next post: this is Mizuki's super, Fireball Smash de Paris. Mizuki has obtained the facade to overcome life's hardships, the Persona "Giant Pillow On Fire". I am so very glad you're going over every permutation of this event.
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I love how Kei gets butthurt and bombs you but says no and hangs up when you call him for a date. Is it possible he just enjoys messing with Goonko? I'd really love to see all the possible pillow fight specials. The ones we've seen so far are awfully cute.  Kazuma is definitely the best choice!
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I must point out that Kazuma has switched from calling Goonko "Fudou" to "Kimiko". Progress! I say we should do the same. It is time for Mr. Hotblooded.
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Cheese Pain posted:Is it possible he just enjoys messing with Goonko? In the time between finishing the playthrough and finishing up the translation/posting, I'll probably dedicate my stream to a secondary TMGS run which is just about meeting the other boys up through the class trip. It shouldn't take too long, and will be a nice little extra that will turn into some animated gifs. Meanwhile, Kei's behavior is easy to explain: he's an antisocial buttmonkey.
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Haha, okay, I'm on board with Kazuma now.
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I am extremely bothered by the fact that Goonko and Kazuma's specials aren't completely in sync.
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It's like somebody just flipped a switch from friends to love interests.
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BlitzBlast posted:It's like somebody just flipped a switch from friends to love interests. Yeah, someone noted earlier in the thread that it seems to be this way for most of the GS characters. It's another sign of cut corners and/or lazy writing. I wonder if GS2 handles this better.
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BlitzBlast posted:It's like somebody just flipped a switch from friends to love interests. See, what you're missing here is that we're only getting one side of the story. If this were a shoujo manga, there'd be about 10 chapters in between the time of the end of summer camp and the following date, while Kazuma fights with his inner demons, recognizes he's a terrible team player, resolves to become a better basketballer and better person, and realizes he loves goonko. Of course, we only see the girl's side, which consists of sleeping for about a week.
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Triggerhappypilot posted:See, what you're missing here is that we're only getting one side of the story. If this were a shoujo manga, there'd be about 10 chapters in between the time of the end of summer camp and the following date, while Kazuma fights with his inner demons, recognizes he's a terrible team player, resolves to become a better basketballer and better person, and realizes he loves goonko. I figure that maybe one of the Kazuma's basketball buddies was like "Yo, bro. That chick's diggin' on you for real" and he's like "No way, man," but now the thought's been planted so he's lookin at Goonko now going "Wait, is she really into me?" and it gets him all flustered. Thank you for reading my headcanonlpfiction. 
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Ok, I've never cared for visual novels but I really like "girl side" games so I've just been reading the girl side stuff so what is this bombing thing? Is it so bad if a character you don't care about bombs?
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Oct 15, 2014 05:32
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Nyagato posted:Ok, I've never cared for visual novels but I really like "girl side" games so I've just been reading the girl side stuff so what is this bombing thing? Is it so bad if a character you don't care about bombs? It's a mechanic designed to prevent you from ignoring characters. Dredged up from the original Tokimemo portion of this LP: vibratingsheep posted:So, what is it about meeting girls that makes the game harder? Now we'll have to explain how the relationship chart works. Replace "girls" with "guys" and the exact same principles apply through every Tokimeki Memorial game.
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Oct 15, 2014 05:43
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vibratingsheep posted:It's a mechanic designed to prevent you from ignoring characters. Dredged up from the original Tokimemo portion of this LP: ...That is one of the stupidest mechanics I have ever seen. Harvest Moon: Friends of Mineral Town has a better system, and that's not even a dating sim.
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Oct 15, 2014 06:57
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Well, it's been adjusted a bit since then: At this point, from what I understand, it's now based on who cares about who, so it's kind of complicated and varies based on each character's own relationships, so some characters might not care if one person bombs, but be really upset if someone else bombs... And as a result, you can sometimes get bomb dominoes going, where someone bombs because a friend of theirs bombed, and prompting someone else to bomb as well. In other words, it's a lot simpler to just avoid all bombs in the first place. There are of course, a few characters that completely ignore bombs altogether! That's usually restricted to secret characters though. They just don't care for whatever reason.
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Oct 15, 2014 07:05
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Catalina posted:"That's a nice shirt, Goonko. I think my sexy grandma has one like it." She wears your grandma's clothes. She looks incredible. She's in this big old coat, from that thrift shop down the road. Seriously, though, the pillow fight supers are a pretty nice analogue, considering that BANCHO COMBAT wouldn't make a lot of sense.
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Oct 15, 2014 08:27
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Glazius posted:She wears your grandma's clothes. That reminds me, we need to go back and date part-time bancho
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Oct 15, 2014 08:55
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Tokimemo Girl's Side, chapter 12: I See the Light Alternate ways that the school trip can go:  Goonko: (The boys' room is making a lot of noise.) Tamami: Ummm, Kimiko-chan? Goonko: Hey, Tamami-chan. What's up? Tamami: It seems like there's a big party in the boys' room. Want to check it out? Goonko: Yeah, I'll go! The way the pillow toss event works, it brings in a random female friend, plus that friend's love interest. The fourth slot is filled either by the character with the highest affection for the main character, or if that character is already present, the second-highest boy on the list. Chiharu is disqualified because he doesn't get to go on the class trip as a freshman, so the slot defaults to Shiki after Tamami forces Kazuma to appear.  Tamami: You coming along helps a lot, I didn't want to go alone. Tamami causes Shiki and Kazuma to switch places, so Shiki gets an extra line if Tamami comes along:  Shiki: It's a shame that you came all the way out here for this. Shiki: As you can see, it's turned into a pillow fight.  While everyone else shouts "<XXX club> secret technique" before their pillow supers, Tamami squeaks out "Girls' secret technique. Sensei! The boys are--" and proceeds to tell on them. This causes both boys to freeze and panic for a few seconds, turning the game into a 1 on 1. I assume that this is what Goonko's super would be if she didn't have a club or was the manager of the baseball team.  Every hiding place gets the same description from Goonko, so the closet/futon/table choice is a pure shell game. If you hide with Tamami:  Goonko: Tamami-chan! Tamami: Kimiko-chan! Tamami: Oh no, I'm so sorry. Geez... I must have freaked you out. Goonko: (So it was Tamami-chan in there.) If you say "nah, I won't go to the boys' room" to Tamami, this dialogue occurs:  Goonko: Nah, I'll pass. Tamami: Y, yeah, that's a good idea. Goonko: Why don't you go, Tamami-chan? Tamami: No, I'll pass too. Good night! Goonko: Huh?  Reiichi: Fudou. Reiichi: Isn't it past time for lights out? Goonko: Himuro-sensei?! Goonko: Uh, the boys' room was-- Reiichi: Don't worry about other people. Reiichi: Go back to your own room and go to sleep. Goonko: Y, yes sir. Goonko: (Tamami-chan totally ditched me.) It took a few more hard resets to change the RNG seed and get back on track, but it was worth it. Mizuki's super, the Fireball Smash de Paris, makes me laugh because she sounds so much like Chopper when she delivers the line. It's also absurdly hard to dodge.  Hiding with Mizuki leads to this line, which is the most annoyed and disappointed Mizuki's gotten since... well, since we forced her to ride the merry-go-round with us on the double date.  Goonko: Oh! Sudou-san! Mizuki: Oh boooo, why did it have to be you and not him? Goonko: (So that was Sudou-san in there.) And, finally, hiding with Kazuma (the canon ending to Goonko's class trip):  Goonko: Suzuka-kun! Kazuma: H, hey, what're you trying to pull? Goonko: (Then that was--) In none of my reloads did Shiho show up for this event - it's most likely because I haven't met Academics Boy yet, so he can't appear to pair up with her in the pillow fight. That's unfortunate. And as a final note, I checked my .gif recordings for Irisize's sake. Goonko's and Kazuma's supers don't sync perfectly because his cut-in takes about 20 frames longer than hers. This happens because Kazuma gets to scream out his attack name, while Goonko's just flashes by without any dramatic pausing. The "Niagara dunk!" shout is actually pretty understated by Hiyama Nobuyuki's lofty standards. 9/19: The last day of the trip  Goonko: (Is Suzuka-kun down here yet? Oh, there he is.) Kazuma: Y, yo. Morning, Kimiko. Goonko: Good morning. You're up early. Kazuma: Yeah, I just couldn't wait to get out of bed today. Y'know?  Kazuma: Oh yeah, I have to pick up souvenirs. Kazuma: Can we stop by this gift shop for a sec? Goonko: I don't mind. Kazuma: Sorry 'bout this! Kazuma: But you're gonna buy something too, right? Kazuma: I'll see you outside. Goonko: (I wonder what kind of souvenirs Suzuka-kun will buy?)  Kazuma: You finished shopping, Kimiko? Kazuma: I'm done. Goonko: Yeah, I am too. Wait, what the?! Goonko: That's a huge bag. What did you buy? Kazuma: Huh? Yeah, just some souvenirs for the freshmen on the basketball team. Not pictured: the huge gift bag that is apparently just below the frame in Kazuma's right hand.  Kazuma: They put me in charge of picking up all this stuff. Kazuma: It's a pain in the rear end, though, so I just bought everyone the same thing. Goonko: What? You mean all of that...? Goonko: (Suzuka-kun...)  Goonko: Sigh... Kazuma: What's wrong, Kimiko? Are you tired? Goonko: No, that's not it. Goonko: It's just been so fun that when I think about how it's all over tomorrow...  Kazuma: You're still a kid in a lot of ways, aren't you. Kazuma: But... we sure saw a lot together, didn't we? Goonko: Yeah.  Goonko: We're back in Habataki City! Goonko: The class trip is over! 9/21: Back to normal life  Ciao! Is everyone in love? Mmmmm, baked sweet potatoes are so~ delicious. Everything is delicious! It's true that fall is the season of appetites. It's our greatest enemy. Don't give in, girls~ Protect your figures with your lives! The current craze is bermuda pants! If you wear that to a date, your man will melt in your hands~! Next up, the fashionable color is orange! Work that into your wardrobe! And on top of that, it might be nice to wear a bracelet as an accent. Your trump card is just being yourself! Have some confidence! ★Goro's sexy calisthenics★  Transform yourself into a beauty! After checking on fall fashion trends, it's time for a basketball game.   Goonko: That was pretty easy! 9/23: Curtains for Tamami  Goonko: Tamami-chan! Want to stop by a cafe on the way home? Tamami: Oh, I'm so sorry. I have a really busy schedule today. After this point, Tamami doesn't accept any invitations anymore - so she's pretty much dead to us for the rest of this playthrough. Unfortunate, but inevitable. 9/29-10/3: Kazuma's full court press  This week easily showcases why Tamami doesn't want anything to do with Goonko anymore. It starts with Kazuma invitng Goonko out to the arcade, and of course Goonko says yes.  This is followed immediately by Goonko starting to call Kazuma by the more familiar "Kazuma-kun", which will change to just the intimate "Kazuma" soon enough. Goonko: Hey, Kazuma-kun, let's stop by a cafe on the way home.  Kazuma: W, well, if you insist, I guess I can go with you.  This is quite possibly the worst pose and perspective I have seen in the entire Tokimemo series. He looks like he's pushing himself into the table and his monkey arms are dangling all the way to Goonko's end. Goonko: Say, Kazuma-kun, what kind of music do you listen to?  Kazuma: Hmm. Well, I listen to a lot of hip-hop before games. Goonko: Why before games?  Kazuma: It really helps me focus. Kazuma: My body starts moving to the rhythm, and once I'm in rhythm I feel like I can't lose.  And, to add insult to injury, Goonko has a perfect week of studying, which Kazuma notices. Kazuma: Kimiko, you've been hitting the books pretty hard lately. Kazuma: Traitor. He says that last word with a smile, so it's more of an affectionate tease than any kind of insult or insinuation of betrayal. 10/5: The dangers of waiting in a busy area  Man: I won't take any of your time at all, miss, my shop is right here. Man: I just want to talk to you for a second, okay? Goonko: Oh, no, I'm not-- Goonko: I mean, umm... Man: It's really close by, I swear. My shop's on the second floor, see it?  Kazuma: That's enough! Goonko: Oh, Kazuma-kun! Man: What? Oh, geez, you were waiting for someone? Man: I guess that means you're too busy. Goonko: (He gave up and left. Thank goodness.) Girls: have you ever just been standing around when someone tries to drag you into their shop? Is this a thing? I've seen some hard sells in my life, but this is borderline illegal.  Kazuma: You know, when this kind of thing happens, you've gotta come out and say no up front. Kazuma: Otherwise you'll just get dragged around. Goonko: I'll be more careful next time. Thanks. Kazuma: No, don't thank me. It's my fault for being late anyway. Goonko: (Kazuma-kun is pretty dependable at times like these.)  Kazuma: So, what do you wanna do? Goonko: Play video games, of course. Kazuma: Awesome! Time to show off my skills.  Kazuma: So, where should we start? Option 1: There's this stuffed animal I really want to win. Option 2: Let's play some fighting games! Option 3: Let's go to the fortune teller and check our compatibility. Let's see, on October 5, 2003, Samurai Spirits Zero was a few days from coming out, but SvC Chaos was still new... Ah, who'm I kidding, Kazuma would only ever play Soul Calibur II or KoF 2002.  Goonko: Let's play some fighting games! Kazuma: Alright, you're on! Kazuma: I'm just warning you, I'm pretty good. Goonko: (Mm-hmm, that went pretty well.) Liar. Joe was bottom tier in KoF '02 - amusingly, Whip is voiced by Miharu of Tokimemo 1 and was oppressively good in that game. Link (Melee) and Nightmare (Soul Calibur II) were solid mid-tiers, so I guess you have those going for you, Kazuma. Enough fighting game mumbling. On to the after-date conversation!  Goonko: Say, Kazuma-kun. Do you have any hobbies? Kazuma: Hobbies? Hmm. Basketball doesn't count as a hobby, so... Kazuma: Oh, hey, I almost forgot about that! Goonko: Hehe, what do you mean by "that"?  Kazuma: Fishing! I wanna go bass fishing again some time. Kazuma: It's a huge rush when it comes down to a 1 on 1 showdown between me and the fish. Goonko: Really? That sounds fun!  And then, another Kei bomb warning happened. What a killjoy. 10/6: Speaking of killjoy...  There's another Habataki News feature on Kei. Can anyone tell me what's going on with his shoulder and arm in this picture? I kind of feel like this pose is impossible without a broken humerus, but that's because the curve of his back and the angle of his arm are kind of awkward. 10/7: Working with Shiho  Goonko: I'm really sorry. Goonko: I screwed up pretty badly back there. Shiho: It's fine, it's fine. Shiho: The customer calmed down eventually.  Goonko: ... Shiho: Don't make the same mistake twice and you'll be fine. Shiho: Be careful, okay? Goonko: Thanks. 10/13: Bomb defusal at the aquarium with Kei  Since I don't get to use this outfit very often, I took the opportunity to drag it out of the closet. The sword came too, of course.  Kei: Were you waiting? Goonko: Nope! I just got here too. Kei: Good. Kei: Your clothes... Goonko: Huh? Kei: They look good on you. I like it.  Kei: I haven't been to the aquarium in forever. Kei: It's nice. Option 1: It's like aquatic artwork. Option 2: You think these fish are edible? Option 3: Ooh, that fish is pretty.  Goonko: Ooh, that fish is pretty. Kei: It's a nice pattern. Kei: I never get tired of it. Goonko: (Uhh, I guess that's okay.)  Kei: Thanks. Kei: Bye. What an interesting and well-spoken young man. I feel more attracted to him already. His eloquence and open personality have won me over. 10/15-10/16: Kei's birthday  Goonko: What should I buy him? Option 1: Sports towel Option 2: Pillow with kitty ears Option 3: Radish juice I have no idea what to make of this set of choices. I really don't. I ended up going with the present that involved cats.  Goonko: Hazuki-kun! Kei: Fudou. Goonko: Here, I got you a present! Kei: Why? Goonko: What do you mean, "why"? Today's your birthday, isn't it? Kei: Yeah. Goonko: Open it!  Kei: Thank you. You know what I like. Goonko: (Yay! He was really happy about it!) "Hazuki-kun, why won't you smile?" "I am smiling. I'll kill you." 10/19: Friendship. Hard work. Victory!  Goonko: (The boys' game is still going. I wonder if Kazuma-kun's doing alright?) Goonko: (Whoa, everyone on the other team is swarming him. He can barely move.)  Player A: Kazuma! You're trapped! Throw it here! Kazuma: Ugh! Kazuma: It's all yours! Kazuma: You better make this! Player A: I got this! (Swish!)  Kazuma: Yo! I didn't know you were watching. Goonko: Yay! You won!  Kazuma: Well, I wasn't the one who made the winning shot. Goonko: But your pass is what made that basket happen!  Kazuma: Yeah. Kazuma: We're a team, after all. Goonko: (Kazuma-kun's face is priceless right now.) What I think Kazuma looks like right now, part "This is my excuse to post the legendary two-page spread from Slam Dunk": Voice actor trivia: Rukawa Kaede, the player pictured on the left, was one of the roles that vaulted Midorikawa Hikaru to stardom. He's much more interesting than Kei is. 10/25: School festival prep, year 2  Class rep: The votes are in, and this year, we're going to be holding a bazaar. Class rep: Let's all work hard over the next two weeks. From context, the bazaar is basically a classwide yard sale. Everyone in the class brings some interesting items they don't mind selling, and tries to sell it to the rest of the school. 10/26: Goonko's birthday  (ding-dong) Goonko: Who is it~? Goonko: Oh, hi Kazuma-kun. What're you doing here? Kazuma: W, well, you know, it's your birthday and all. Goonko: No way! You remembered it, Kazuma-kun?  Kazuma: It, it's not that big a deal. Kazuma: Anyway, here's your present! Goonko: Wow, thanks! Kazuma: I don't really know what girls like, so I have no idea if you'll like this at all. Kazuma: Anyway, just take it. Later. Goonko: (Ya~y! I got a present from Kazuma-kun!  )Goonko: (I wonder what it is?) Goonko: (Oh, a wristband!) Goonko: (Wow, this is really cool! Just what I'd expect him to get.) Kazuma's wristband cannot be equipped as an accessory, and is instead a stat item like Mizuki's lip mirror or the basketball team's Iron Courage. It's worth +5 Fitness and +5 Charm, so it's nothing to scoff at, either. 11/8: The school festival  Goonko: Is this the item you wanted? Goonko: Here you go! Thank you very much! Kazuma: Y, yo, Kimiko. You seem really busy.  Goonko: Hey, Kazuma-kun! Thanks for stopping by. Kazuma: Ha, yeah. I figured I'd browse a little bit. Goonko: Don't just window shop, you should buy something! You might never see these again. Kazuma: Okay, okay. Kazuma: Whoa! You guys have a superhero bag! I loved this show when I was a kid. Goonko: I brought that in, you know. I forgot to mention this the last time Kazuma brought up superheroes, but to a Japanese teenager, "superhero" means Super Sentai or Kamen Rider, not Batman or Spider-Man. These days, that association is reinforced by the Sentai/Rider time slot, named Super Hero Time.  Kazuma: R, really? Then I'll take it. Kazuma: It's just the right size for my basketball shoes. Goonko: Thank you very much! Let me go wrap it up for you.  Goonko: Here you go! Kazuma: Huh. You're really good at that. It looks more like a present than a purchase. Goonko: You think so? Kazuma: Yeah. Feels like I'm the one making a profit off of this. Thanks, Kimiko. Goonko: (Kazuma-kun seems happy.)  Goonko: That's how this year's school festival ended. Goonko: The bazaar was super busy, and it was a lot of fun! Next time: Goro is only the second-weirdest character in this scene. 
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Oct 15, 2014 09:35
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vibratingsheep posted:Girls: have you ever just been standing around when someone tries to drag you into their shop? Is this a thing? I've seen some hard sells in my life, but this is borderline illegal. Never in the US but yeah they'll try and pull you into shops in Roppongi and Harajuku. Not as bad as it used to be but it still happens. quote:Next time: Goro is only the second-weirdest character in this scene. um
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Oct 15, 2014 10:08
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Reverend Cheddar posted:Never in the US but yeah they'll try and pull you into shops in Roppongi and Harajuku. Not as bad as it used to be but it still happens. quote:
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Oct 15, 2014 13:41
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vibratingsheep posted:It took a few more hard resets to change the RNG seed and get back on track, but it was worth it.
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Oct 15, 2014 13:49
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