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Yeah, I'm kind of impressed with Cryptic there. It's still "rare" but hardly unattainable from either boxes or the exchange, and you get the full assortment of lockbox ship "stuff" except a console (which you'd never use) and the free T5u upgrade. Helps to pad out the anemic raider selection too, even if it's kind of a crappy one. 
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MikeJF posted:I'm amazed at the effort in this booby prize. Full ship model and bridge model. I guess they had the ship model ready from story elements and they knew that nobody would buy a drat Kazon ship. Kazon Ship - Just like Felix it is the ship that no one asked for or wanted.
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Oct 14, 2014 07:22
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Kazons are a race of people dressed like homeless guys and their hair the dude from Ancient Aliens I sure want to drive that guy's hemp-smelling 88 buick regal
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Oct 14, 2014 10:51
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Quick update on a blatant cashgrab PWE is doing with the T6 fleet ships.
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Oct 14, 2014 12:49
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Wow, they're charging that much dil for the Butts T6+ doff? loving outrageous!
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Oct 14, 2014 12:53
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Korgan posted:Quick update on a blatant cashgrab PWE is doing with the T6 fleet ships. This is really pathetically greedy.
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Oct 14, 2014 13:00
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I thought making spergs pay $500 for each new lockbox was enough, the whole T6 thing is just unbelievable greed.
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Oct 14, 2014 13:03
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As a guy who has spent a fair amount of cash on this game, this expansion is turning me off the whole thing. Every new detail is more greedy than the last.
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Oct 14, 2014 13:09
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A Fancy Bloke posted:As a guy who has spent a fair amount of cash on this game, this expansion is turning me off the whole thing. Every new detail is more greedy than the last. Likewise. I've switched to The Old Republic for my dumb space needs for a while. Might check back on STO early next year at this rate.
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Oct 14, 2014 13:16
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Eh, I dunno, it's pretty much in line with my idea that they're basically replacing ship-specific consoles (retrofit consoles) with Level 5 Ship Traits due to universal console overcrowding. It's the same as the current system in that respect.
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Oct 14, 2014 13:53
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MikeJF posted:Eh, I dunno, it's pretty much in line with my idea that they're basically replacing ship-specific consoles (retrofit consoles) with Level 5 Ship Traits due to console overcrowding. It's the same as the current system in that respect. That's a good idea actually. Except they still have the consoles.
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Oct 14, 2014 13:57
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wdarkk posted:That's a good idea actually. Except they still have the consoles. Oh, yes they do. Weeeeeeeeeeeell... yes.
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Oct 14, 2014 14:01
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Korgan posted:Quick update on a blatant cashgrab PWE is doing with the T6 fleet ships.
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Oct 14, 2014 14:45
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Oh, no, they were always going to delay the Fleet version release, just like they did with ships like the Ar'Kif. If you release the Fleet one right off the bat you lose a bunch of people buying the Zen versions.
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Oct 14, 2014 14:51
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Even if I didn't feel too sick to play, this is pretty depressing. I think it's off to better games sooner rather than later now.
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Oct 14, 2014 16:34
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I suppose it isn't necessarily too bad for people who want to buy the zen ship so they can use it on multiple characters anyway. In the long run buying the zen version followed by using 1 FSM and some FC its a little cheaper.
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Oct 14, 2014 16:45
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Y'all are acting like you're not going to just keep flying your level 40 ship...
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Oct 14, 2014 17:29
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Melchior posted:I suppose it isn't necessarily too bad for people who want to buy the zen ship so they can use it on multiple characters anyway. In the long run buying the zen version followed by using 1 FSM and some FC its a little cheaper. The problem I see is that the traits system doesn't mesh well with the new (expensive, grindy) upgrade system. The ship traits encourage flying lots of different ships to unlock various ship traits, which fits in with the way the game used to be played. But the new upgrade system makes it much harder to equip a bunch of different ships, encouraging you to pick one ship and slowly grind up nice equipment for it.
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Oct 14, 2014 17:38
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g0del posted:It's not that much worse than the old way of doing things. The biggest problem is that you'll have to fly the non-fleet ship for awhile just to unlock the trait. Oh if that's true that's dumb as hell. That can't be the case.
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Oct 14, 2014 17:42
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MikeJF posted:Oh if that's true that's dumb as hell. That can't be the case.
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Oct 14, 2014 18:21
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Oct 14, 2014 19:12
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So I hit 50 last night and not quite sure how to progress to 60, only been playing a couple days and still have my level 40 ship (didn't buy a level 50 one) should I buy a level 50 one and grind it up or wait until 60 and try to do content up to 60 in my level 40?
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Oct 14, 2014 19:14
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I noticed yesterday that spiral wave disruptors are being sold in Dilithium store for DIL 38,750 under special items. Is this new?
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Oct 14, 2014 19:39
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MoraleHazard posted:I noticed yesterday that spiral wave disruptors are being sold in Dilithium store for DIL 38,750 under special items. Is this new? No, and you can only purchase them if you already own a galor on that character.
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Oct 14, 2014 19:54
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Korgan posted:Quick update on a blatant cashgrab PWE is doing with the T6 fleet ships. Well, that simplifies my decision regarding my next ship greatly!
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Oct 14, 2014 20:18
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So the upgrade tokens are 700 zen each or 4 for 2000. Nice of them to make you actually pay 10 if you just want one since they don't accept transactions less than $10 for zen on the website.
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Oct 14, 2014 20:40
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Why would you use the website. Use steam or something.
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Oct 14, 2014 20:42
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Steam doesn't work for me and a bunch of other people.
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Oct 14, 2014 20:44
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A Fancy Bloke posted:So the upgrade tokens are 700 zen each or 4 for 2000. I think you can buy 5$ through steam... not that this helps. God, everything regarding the cash shop in this patch is a player screwing disaster. Good work on loving the golden goose, PWE. Think of how much a new player would need to spend to be competitive now and you realize how badly they hosed over their one good selling point (being "the one good F2P game")
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Asimo posted:I think you can buy 5$ through steam... not that this helps. I know it's just more bitching and moaning, but yeah. I totally, unironically, 100% agree with Asimo.
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Oct 14, 2014 20:57
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A Fancy Bloke posted:So the upgrade tokens are 700 zen each or 4 for 2000. Are you ready for the dumbest workaround? Open your ARC account and go to the page where it tells you how much Zen you have. At the bottom, there should be a little box with "CHARGE YOUR ZEN" in it. Go there and then buy Zen through the pan-games ARC page - it has a $5 option. Then you have to tell it specifically to send that zen you just bought to the holodeck server for star trek online.
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Oct 14, 2014 21:09
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At work so can't play yet, but how are the new missions? Good/Bad?
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Oct 14, 2014 21:16
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Mormon Star Wars posted:Are you ready for the dumbest workaround? It's not really solving the issue though which is that it's not a round number. It's hot dogs and hot dog buns.
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Oct 14, 2014 21:25
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Burning_Monk posted:At work so can't play yet, but how are the new missions? Good/Bad?  A Fancy Bloke posted:It's not really solving the issue though which is that it's not a round number. It's hot dogs and hot dog buns.
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I haven't bothered to play for some months knowing this was coming, and as I wade through the predictable confusion I'm finding myself fairly unimpressed with the new doodads, especially with a thirty dollar price tag on them. And predictably they just ramped up the grind so you have to run on the treadmill for even longer to return to the relative power you had before, as all the old task forces got dialed up to 11, so all the new bells and whistles don't make you a space badass, they just unnerf you relative to the ramped up difficulty. I am disappoint.
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Dootman posted:No, and you can only purchase them if you already own a galor on that character. And here I was all pumped to grind dil for them without bothering with the ship. Oh well.
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MoraleHazard posted:And here I was all pumped to grind dil for them without bothering with the ship. Oh well. Since Cardassians are the master race and they made the Galor, there's only one logical choice.
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Valatar posted:I haven't bothered to play for some months knowing this was coming, and as I wade through the predictable confusion I'm finding myself fairly unimpressed with the new doodads, especially with a thirty dollar price tag on them. And predictably they just ramped up the grind so you have to run on the treadmill for even longer to return to the relative power you had before, as all the old task forces got dialed up to 11, so all the new bells and whistles don't make you a space badass, they just unnerf you relative to the ramped up difficulty. Significantly upping the difficulty of old content while decreasing the rewards is bullshit, though.
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So how much did the update break things? I don't mean a bullet point list but in general, a lot? A little? I saw the bit about Boffs. I guess it's time to make the call if I want to buy the big get everything pack, or finally call it quits on this game, most of the things I've heard about the expansion are leaving a bad taste. Looking here and at reddit there is a big lack of people "gee whizzing!" at the new poo poo and that's making me really wonder if it's time to get out.
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