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Gimnbo posted:Gamers want the "art" label applied because they think it lends some indiscernible credibility to the medium. It's something that some of them can use to deflect criticism when someone points out that their tastes are kind of base and unsophisticated. They want the illusion of being high culture. It's the same reason you see so many fedoras, really. This is a good point.
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Edit: Nevermind, I've decided not to argue about video games.
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Oct 14, 2014 16:18
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Video games are both sports and art, and some article somewhere said video games make you smarter, so I don't even know why we are even bothering with school anymore!
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There is art in Batman punching a criminal so hard the man clips through geometry and vanishes from the universe itself.
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Militree posted:This whole GamerGate fiasco makes me want to look back at the Jack Thompson thing and see if maybe the gaming side was acting just as childish and petulant. I remember my friend, who isn't a gamer, saying she saw him speak and he was reasonably level headed. To be fair he was permanently disbarred, so there's clearly some problems on his side. SybilVimes posted:I was just glad that Ebert could use the same introspection on his medium of choice, and didn't just hand wave away his 'games aren't art' routine when things like Transformers comes along. The important thing to know about Ebert's reviews was that he judged movies based on what category they fit into. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to rank a superhero movie at the same artistic level as, say, Schindler's List, since they're both trying to accomplish completely different things. So a four-star review from him didn't mean "the greatest of films, exceptional high art", but rather that it excelled at what it set out to do. And the first Transformers movie is a reasonably fun popcorn movie, even though the sequels were utter garbage.
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I posted that Ebola bleach thing to my Facebook with a "Thanks Barack Hussein Ebola" and at least three people still fell for it.
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Oct 14, 2014 18:01
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Obsolete posted:I posted that Ebola bleach thing to my Facebook with a "Thanks Barack Hussein Ebola" and at least three people still fell for it. So you killed 3 people?
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Oct 14, 2014 18:03
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Crain posted:So you killed 3 people? Call the police.
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Crain posted:So you killed 3 people? Let's hope Edit: (fell for it by which I mean a known racist and conspiracy theorist I never talk to liked it, then the other two wrote in with "drink bleach? Really?") Obsolete has a new favorite as of 18:11 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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Oct 14, 2014 18:07
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extended family member shared this.
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Oct 14, 2014 20:40
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They literally think that [anything pig] is to Muslims as garlic and being invited in is to Vampires don't they?
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Thank you. I love you.
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Crain posted:They literally think that [anything pig] is to Muslims as garlic and being invited in is to Vampires don't they? There's a reason the Political Cartoon Thread's title for a while was "Ham Stoker's Dracallah"
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Oct 14, 2014 20:53
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Personally I'm more concerned that a person thinks haphazardly spraying ebola on people we don't like is a good idea.
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Oct 14, 2014 20:55
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Bioshock: Infinite is gaming's Citizen Kane.
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Oct 14, 2014 21:04
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The Godfather: The Game is gaming's The Godfather
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Oct 14, 2014 21:06
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Gimnbo posted:Personally I'm more concerned that a person thinks haphazardly spraying ebola on people we don't like is a good idea. It's ok because it's brown people dying. Also because they are foreign.
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Oct 14, 2014 21:09
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Why do games want to be art? It would just invite the "actual" art crowd to look at games and go " yeah about 98% of this doesn't really have any artistic value outside of being something that humans created" Then the internet would explode about what is considered "actual art" and what the definition of artistic value is.
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Why do games want to be art? It would just invite the "actual" art crowd to look at games and go " yeah about 98% of this doesn't really have any artistic value outside of being something that humans created" The whole point of art is to debate its value.
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B.B. Rodriguez posted:It's ok because it's brown people dying. Also because they are foreign. The thing is you actually think that brown people and foreigners are actually, well, people. I'm sure a lot of these white middle class sorts don't see anyone who isn't white as an actual person. HOOLY BOOLY posted:Why do games want to be art? It would just invite the "actual" art crowd to look at games and go " yeah about 98% of this doesn't really have any artistic value outside of being something that humans created" I don't think gamers even want games to be criticized as art. A lot can't even handle someone saying "You know, it's a bit of a boys club still and theres a bit of sexism out there." Imagine the meltdown if they were genuinely told that Dark Souls or Mario Brothers may fail on many merits of being art or whatever. Edit: Hell, look at the loving meltdowns people have over someone maybe saying that Spec Ops isn't exactly the Apocalypse Now of video games 
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Oct 14, 2014 21:41
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Why do games want to be art? It would just invite the "actual" art crowd to look at games and go " yeah about 98% of this doesn't really have any artistic value outside of being something that humans created" Because it'll make them feel like all the time wasted playing a video game was worth it. That they were doing something worthwhile. When the reality is that its a stupid time waster. Dont get me wrong, playing games is awesome but just  at any dumb gently caress who calls themselves a gamer.
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Darth Freddy posted:extended family member shared this. Knowing any kind of information about anything -> People like this V
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For content:quote:Like honestly, I could probably go screw a complete dead beat, get pregnant and go on Welfare and live better than I do now. Welfare cheque day in our city is like a Apocalypse of irresponsible spending. Jesus christ, wish I could find those posts with stories on people who were on welfare.
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Vintersorg posted:For content: Why does it have to be a deadbeat? Are the poors the only people capable of getting women pregnant? Some scientists should probably look into this 
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Nah rich or poor can have kids, but kids with parents that are below an imaginary of "x dollars per year" are simply inferior because their parents didn't pass on their bootstrapping genes meaning the kids are gonna end up taking "ALL ARE MONEY" just like their parents did to buy stakes and refrigerators
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Oct 14, 2014 22:09
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I really like folk/outsider art and am currently in negotiations to buy a piece by Leon Kennedy (from Leon Kennedy, which is so totally awesome!). There is a juvenile element to it, but that is also part of what creates its authenticity. My wife is really in love with the motif of people touching and I can't help but agree, it is beautiful. It isn't just the picture but the person and condition that created the art. We can treat video games as pop art. If we accept that, we can treat John Romero like George Lucas. They both totally revolutionized the medium, but their success was also clearly a collaborative process, given how their individual projects turned out. The juvenile elements of Leon Kennedy's art can be contrasted with the adolescent elements of John Romero's opus:  Clearly these are of equal value and ought be treated as such.
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Gimnbo posted:Personally I'm more concerned that a person thinks haphazardly spraying ebola on people we don't like is a good idea. Some one said something like this and got called out for having a American attitude. What the gently caress?
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If literally doing nothing counts as art, video games do too.
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Nikaer Drekin posted:The Godfather: The Game is gaming's The Godfather Just Cause 2 is gaming's Arnold Schwarzenegger in Commando. I'm not trying to be funny, this is not code language.
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everything is art that's sorta the point
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Fatkraken posted:everything is art if you call art art, then it's art
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:
In art school you'll see at minimum 2 guys in skirts/dresses a day. Not because they're in drag; it's something about "the man" or "society." Or just being a hipster. E- the arty video games we made in art school were usually really loving cool. The people who got good at programming made some crazy stuff and pushed everything to and beyond its limits. I made a strip club game  E2- and got a 15 minute lecture from some girl about being misogynistic simply because I had strippers. There are strippers in real life so  unfortunately I do not have her tumblr.
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I know I post about this at my own risk, but according to the trending articles on Facebook, Anita Sarkesian canceled a speech at a college campus in Arkansas because someone threatened a campus massacre if she was allowed to speak. Dude. WHAT THE gently caress IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE????? e: Utah, not Arkansas.
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JoeyJoJoJr Shabadoo posted:In art school you'll see at minimum 2 guys in skirts/dresses a day. Not because they're in drag; it's something about "the man" or "society." Or just being a hipster. What did you do in strip club game?
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Your fursonna is the Lizard 2.
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BgRdMchne posted:Your fursonna is moon moon. ftfy
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:I know I post about this at my own risk, but according to the trending articles on Facebook, Anita Sarkesian canceled a speech at a college campus in Arkansas because someone threatened a campus massacre if she was allowed to speak. Dude. Gamergaters are literally calling in bomb threats and mass murder threats to like every event she speaks at or panel she's a part of. Don't worry though:  Whew
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Macaluso posted:Gamergaters are literally calling in bomb threats and mass murder threats to like every event she speaks at or panel she's a part of. Don't worry though: People are coming back against this threat in a big way, expect poo poo to be going down.
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