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Kylver posted:In case anyone was wondering. What? So what happens when you try trading over a new megastone. We know the new legendaries are already in the game, as are Mega Lati@s, but none of the others are.
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Kurieg posted:What? So what happens when you try trading over a new megastone. We know the new legendaries are already in the game, as are Mega Lati@s, but none of the others are. It'll likely block you entirely from trading them, like GSC did with RBGY. The main question is whether this means they'll be blocked from fighting with XY, which would be kind of a big deal. Sometimes I have to seriously wonder what Gamefreak's thinking about, between the incredible awfulness of event-only Pokemon, constantly cutting features from sequels, and this...
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Oct 14, 2014 21:37
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Blaze Dragon posted:It'll likely block you entirely from trading them, like GSC did with RBGY. How did Gen 5 handle it? BW2 had forms you couldn't access on BW right?
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Oct 14, 2014 21:38
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Blaze Dragon posted:It'll likely block you entirely from trading them, like GSC did with RBGY. 
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Oct 14, 2014 21:46
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Electric Phantasm posted:How did Gen 5 handle it? BW2 had forms you couldn't access on BW right? The DNA Splicers were a key item so they couldn't be traded. Don't know about the forces of nature trio though
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Oct 14, 2014 21:47
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Txn posted:It's a deliberate throwback to Gen 4 where you can't trade the Griseous Orb, nor the Rotom formes. I don't wanna think about the fact that eventually there is going to be be demand for a Gen 4 remake. I mean yeah making the Sinnoh experience a faster and more enjoyable one is something that would be nice but, it'd just be surreal as hell to me that we'd actually be moving onto remaking the DS era games.
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Oct 14, 2014 21:50
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You couldn't trade B/W Kyurem at all, it wasn't even given as an option because of the way that it stored the fused Zekrom/Reshiram in memory. Therian forms also couldn't be traded, you couldn't offer them up until you reverted them.
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Oct 14, 2014 21:53
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Viewtiful Jew posted:I don't wanna think about the fact that eventually there is going to be be demand for a Gen 4 remake. If they follow established precedent, they won't be doing any more remakes until the successor to the 3DS.
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Oct 14, 2014 21:54
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I'm happy to be wrong about Ice Body Glalie, Refrigerate is much, much better. Not happy about no clothing, it's a cop out, another adding and removal of features because GF is GF. Oh well, I probably won't miss it playing the game.
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Oct 14, 2014 22:08
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Blaze Dragon posted:It'll likely block you entirely from trading them, like GSC did with RBGY. I remember someone once asked for my Yellow copy so he could trade RBY-exclusives to his Crystal copy. When he returned it to me, he said he accidentally tried trading a Pokemon with a GSC-only move to RBY, and then I saw that my save file had been erased 
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Oct 14, 2014 22:17
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He mostly likely nicked all your cool Pokemon, then "accidentally" wiped the save to cover his tracks. If you tried anything like that, the woman wouldn't even let you into the machine. There is a way around it via glitches, of course, by hiding new moves underneath glitched ones, but this is the first time I've heard it wipe saves and is something you have to know about to really pull off. It's okay, I've had an older sister declare I'm too old for this game (at 12) and delete everything I had. Maybe one day I'll forgive her for such a thoughtless genocide.
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Oct 14, 2014 22:22
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Kurieg posted:What? So what happens when you try trading over a new megastone. We know the new legendaries are already in the game, as are Mega Lati@s, but none of the others are. Blaze Dragon posted:The main question is whether this means they'll be blocked from fighting with XY, which would be kind of a big deal. Sometimes I have to seriously wonder what Gamefreak's thinking about, between the incredible awfulness of event-only Pokemon, constantly cutting features from sequels, and this...
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Oct 14, 2014 22:25
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Blaziken386 posted:My bet is that there will be a patch either in the E-shop, or when X & Y try to interact with ORAS, the game itself will send the patch over. Nintendo/Gamefreak can be pretty stupid, but I highly doubt they'll be stupid enough to prevent the games from interacting with one another when they've already demonstrated the ability to patch in new data. All of this discussion came out of a confirmation that this is not the case. quote:Edit @ 20:00: It has also been confirmed in an interview with NTower that, although X & Y are compatible with Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire, X & Y will not receive a patch to include the new Mega Evolutions and Primal Reversions.
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Oct 14, 2014 22:27
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Blaze Dragon posted:All of this discussion came out of a confirmation that this is not the case. 
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Oct 14, 2014 22:30
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I wish Gamestop/Nintendo would go back to the giveaways via wireless for Pokemon. I just stood behind 2 neckbeards talking to the only employee at Gamestop for 20 minutes about fake Wii games and return policies waiting for a shiny Gengar.
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Oct 14, 2014 22:30
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We'll just have to buy Pokémon Z if we want to see Mega Altaria and Mega Steelix in Kalos
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Oct 14, 2014 22:30
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I wish that they couldn't get away with not patching X and Y. But they can, and everyone will buy the new games for the new exclusive content that has no business being exclusive. gently caress, my money. E: at least pokebank softens the blow a little.
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Oct 14, 2014 22:34
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Come on Gamefreak, you're so close, just give me my Mega Flygon and you can have all my money.
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Oct 14, 2014 23:02
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Is there a place I can see what kinds of promotional things are going on? Like I guess this thing about gamestop people keep talking about
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Oct 14, 2014 23:12
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This is bullshit.
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Oct 14, 2014 23:19
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Stalgren posted:Is there a place I can see what kinds of promotional things are going on? Like I guess this thing about gamestop people keep talking about http://www.serebii.net/games/currentevents.shtml This seems to be a good reference.
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Oct 14, 2014 23:21
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I remember someone once asked for my Yellow copy so he could trade RBY-exclusives to his Crystal copy. 
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Oct 14, 2014 23:23
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I accidently saved over my sister's save of Final Fantasy 9 when she just hit the forth disc. This was a week after I saved over her game of Harvest Moon on the GBC 
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Oct 14, 2014 23:41
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xNarUtoRKOrton420x posted:I accidently saved over my sister's save of Final Fantasy 9 when she just hit the forth disc. How are you still alive?
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Oct 14, 2014 23:43
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Looks like Gamestops are trying that preorder bullshit when giving out Gengar codes. I tried to go to the better Gamestop in my area that I got the heracross/pinsir stones from but they either couldn't find them or ran out. Went to the store that gave me poo poo last time to find they are still giving me that same pitch. I wrote to Nintendo and Gamestop about this. I really hope we stop these stupid distributions from this lovely store.
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Crosspeice posted:He mostly likely nicked all your cool Pokemon, then "accidentally" wiped the save to cover his tracks. If you tried anything like that, the woman wouldn't even let you into the machine. There is a way around it via glitches, of course, by hiding new moves underneath glitched ones, but this is the first time I've heard it wipe saves and is something you have to know about to really pull off. Ahahaha loving hell, really? I got suckered real good, then 
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Oct 14, 2014 23:46
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God dammit GF, how hard can it be to patch in the new megas? I guess that also means that there won't be any balance fixes between the two games.
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Oct 15, 2014 00:05
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horriblePencilist posted:God dammit GF, how hard can it be to patch in the new megas?
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Blaze Dragon posted:All of this discussion came out of a confirmation that this is not the case. Skymin worked with DPPt because the DP player saw Skymin as normal hedgehog Shaymin with a Grass/Flying type, Serene Grace, and Skymin's stats. There was no new held item, so the game was able to work just fine, albeit seeing normal hedgehog Shaymin outspeed a base 120 mon and slowly flinch you to death with STAB Air Slash is a rather odd experience. Giratina had a new, exclusive item, and thus couldn't be traded/battle with DP, which is essentially the same as the new mega stones. So how exactly will they be compatible? fade5 fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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fade5 posted:Wait, how does that work? Presumably the same way Skymin was - they will mega evolve on the ORAS end, but the XY player would see the old model with the new stats/ability. Things are fuzzier with the new moves/abilities, however. Imagine the nerdrage if they release an X/Y patch to support those moves/abilities, but still leave out the megas. 
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Oct 15, 2014 00:18
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Zonekeeper posted:Presumably the same way Skymin was - they will mega evolve on the ORAS end, but the XY player would see the old model with the new stats/ability. Things are fuzzier with the new moves/abilities, however.
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Oct 15, 2014 00:21
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Blaze Dragon posted:All of this discussion came out of a confirmation that this is not the case. Err..this says that they can interact with each other though? Like, you won't be able to trade any of the new mega stones or Cosplay Pikachu to X & Y, but otherwise the two games can trade and battle just fine.
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Oct 15, 2014 00:23
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Blaziken386 posted:It's probably really easy, they just don't want to. It encourages (read: forces) people to buy the new games. I dunno, new models are probably harder to patch in than you might think.
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Oct 15, 2014 00:26
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Blaziken386 posted:What he's saying is that since the Mega Forms rely on the Mega stone item to evolve, like how Giratina needed its orb, they will likely not work. Maybe there's a sanity check in the game's code that checks for unrecognized mega stones and displays a generic name in its place? (or that could be patched in with the new move info?) It's not like they can be interacted with in battle (with knock-off/thief) so they may as well show no item. If it wasn't for the massive internet tournaments they've been running, I would agree that they would just disallow the new stuff in X/Y battles; since those exist, I highly doubt they will disallow the new megas in future tournaments, nor would they bar their X/Y install base from participating. Besides, putting X/Y players at a competitive disadvantage in those tournaments in order to move more copies of ORAS is exactly the kind of poo poo they would pull.
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Improbable Lobster posted:I dunno, new models are probably harder to patch in than you might think. People stream Brawl mods from their SD cards which weigh very lightly from a data standpoint.
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Oct 15, 2014 00:37
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Viewtiful Jew posted:I don't wanna think about the fact that eventually there is going to be be demand for a Gen 4 remake. I dunno why this is odd to you, we won't even see those remakes until whatever handheld replaces the 3DS is released.
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Oct 15, 2014 00:38
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If you actually thought trainer customization, the france fashion gimmick, was coming back, I don't know what to tell you. Also im pissed as hell I don't remember my login information for the dumb Pokemon account and I probably wouldnt get a demo code anyway
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Oct 15, 2014 00:41
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You do realize that you can ask for both a password reset and for it to send you an email containing your login name? If you want into your account it's not too hard to do so. You could also just make a new one.
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Oct 15, 2014 00:43
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I never got an emailed code from the Pinsirite thing and I doubt I'll get one for the demo. Does anyone know if you can only get the demo stuff from playing the demo or if it will be in the regular game? Because if it's in the regular game I sort of don't care about the demo.
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Manatee Cannon posted:You do realize that you can ask for both a password reset and for it to send you an email containing your login name? If you want into your account it's not too hard to do so. You could also just make a new one. I thought it was a one time thing like the Smash Bros demo codes, where if you didn't already have the option clicked then you'd never get it.
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