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beep boop what is this "empathy" of which you speak
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Oct 15, 2014 01:11
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Fister Roboto posted:If you're actually feeling rage building up over a fictional event then you really need to go talk to someone. I've played video games with fuckup characters in them and have found myself going 'Goddammit [name]' when they mess things up YET AGAIN. For example: Ben of the Walking Dead.
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Oct 15, 2014 01:35
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:So you've never read a book where a character did something so bad you were genuinely pissed? Genuinely pissed? As in, feeling exactly the same as if that had happened in real life? No, I've never felt that way while reading a fictional book.
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Oct 15, 2014 02:14
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Fister Roboto posted:Genuinely pissed? As in, feeling exactly the same as if that had happened in real life? No, I've never felt that way while reading a fictional book. Beep boop all feelings must meet predesignated levels
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Oct 15, 2014 03:43
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Fister Roboto posted:Genuinely pissed? As in, feeling exactly the same as if that had happened in real life? No, I've never felt that way while reading a fictional book. What is your favorite fictional book? I like Jacob's Shadow, although The Necronomicon comes pretty close.
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Oct 15, 2014 03:51
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Gotta be "History of the Land Called Uqbar" by Silas Haslem.
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Oct 15, 2014 04:33
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The Drago didn't eat Fassad and that is an incredible disappointment. However, it seems we're finally gonna see Lucas actually fight, which it's about time. Smash Bros. tells me he's the important one here.
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Oct 15, 2014 04:53
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Fister Roboto posted:If you're actually feeling rage building up over a fictional event then you really need to go talk to someone. *BEEP BOOP WHAT IS THE POINT OF ART OR LITERATURE OR MUSIC* No seriously man, the entire point of any work of fiction or art is to make you feel a thing.
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Oct 15, 2014 05:04
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Fister Roboto posted:Genuinely pissed? As in, feeling exactly the same as if that had happened in real life? No, I've never felt that way while reading a fictional book. Do you remember where you were when you lost your soul? Maybe you should check the lost and found there.
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Oct 15, 2014 05:11
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:*BEEP BOOP WHAT IS THE POINT OF ART OR LITERATURE OR MUSIC* I agree, but I also think that it's weird to get genuinely, literally angry at people who don't exist. Now can we please stop with the ridiculous hyperbole?
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Oct 15, 2014 05:14
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Fister Roboto posted:I agree, but I also think that it's weird to get genuinely, literally angry at people who don't exist. Now can we please stop with the ridiculous hyperbole? People are making fun of you on Something Awful, get over it and stop responding if you don't want people to keep talking about it. I'd never seen the mayor's dialogue about wanting to talk to Fassad about money before. Unfortunately I can't say much more until the next update. But boy, we're about to get into it now. From this point on, I'd really recommend people who have been skipping over the town dialogue to start reading it in future updates. The things the townsfolk have to say regarding the things that are happening to the village really help to convey one of the themes of the game.
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Oct 15, 2014 06:36
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I like the ending of the Salsa sequence. It feels a lot like the ending of a kids' show. The friendly Drago showed up and roared, and all the bad men ran away.
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Oct 15, 2014 08:03
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I like to think that it's the same baby Drago, and since the robo-Drago was the Momma Drago the big Drago that kicks Fassad's rear end is the Drago Family's Daddy Drago. Drago.
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Oct 15, 2014 10:00
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JT Jag posted:I like to think that it's the same baby Drago, and since the robo-Drago was the Momma Drago the big Drago that kicks Fassad's rear end is the Drago Family's Daddy Drago. I'm almost certain that's the implication, but I can't say for sure.
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Oct 15, 2014 13:09
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JT Jag posted:I like to think that it's the same baby Drago, and since the robo-Drago was the Momma Drago the big Drago that kicks Fassad's rear end is the Drago Family's Daddy Drago. You thought Flint had it bad but he didn't have to see Hinawa come back as a crazed half robot killing machine.... Poor Drago family. But at least now they're working together to save those they still have.
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Oct 15, 2014 16:30
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evilspacehopper posted:You thought Flint had it bad but he didn't have to see Hinawa come back as a crazed half robot killing machine.... Poor Drago family. And it basically the first major victory for the good guys. Fassad will not get the princess or the monkey. And it looks like the egg is out of his reach as well. There is hope in what has been a pretty bleak story so far.
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Oct 15, 2014 17:02
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Salsa's girlfriend's not going to fare well over that. ):
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Oct 15, 2014 18:27
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Glazius posted:I like the ending of the Salsa sequence. It feels a lot like the ending of a kids' show. The friendly Drago showed up and roared, and all the bad men ran away. Well the Drago also tail whipped several dudes, threw one away by his *head*, and shoulder checked Fassad a pretty hefty distance.
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Oct 15, 2014 19:28
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Fister Roboto posted:If you're actually feeling rage building up over a fictional event then you really need to go talk to someone.
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Oct 15, 2014 20:58
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Y-Hat posted:Hey did anyone post "beep boop" in responding to this post? Because I'm going to post "beep boop" so as to highlight the absurdity over not showing emotions. I certainly hope nobody else has beaten me to using "beep boop." No I think you are the first one. Good job man, that is a pretty snazzy rebuttal.
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Oct 15, 2014 21:08
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evilspacehopper posted:Hinawa come back as a crazed half robot killing machine.... Man, what a completely different game this would have been...  And after they inevitably save her from the brain-washing, she's just Robo-Mom, which is like Robo-Cop, but way cheesier and she makes snacks even when you didn't know you were hungry, but now that she's made them for you, you're totally starving.
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Oct 15, 2014 22:37
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DjinnAndTonic posted:Man, what a completely different game this would have been...
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Oct 15, 2014 22:44
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Mega64 posted:
Me, when I reached this point in the game posted:STOP SHOCKING ME YOU loving rear end in a top hat! Seriously, Fassad is one of the most loathsome characters I've ever seen in any work of fiction.
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Oct 16, 2014 00:16
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He gets worse. Oh boy does he get worse.
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Oct 16, 2014 02:40
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Uhh.. .Yeah. Worse.
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Oct 16, 2014 02:44
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I think the worst part of him isn't that he is just a bad dude. He is knowingly being a bad dude with no remorse. He knows what the happy boxes will do to the town, he does other bad things later, how he can't even give the slightest of shits about Salsa, everything just screams bad dude. It isn't even doing a bad thing because you think it is good and are just incorrect. He is just bad.
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Oct 16, 2014 03:19
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KKKLIP ART posted:I think the worst part of him isn't that he is just a bad dude. He is knowingly being a bad dude with no remorse. He knows what the happy boxes will do to the town, he does other bad things later, how he can't even give the slightest of shits about Salsa, everything just screams bad dude. It isn't even doing a bad thing because you think it is good and are just incorrect. He is just bad. I dunno, the part with Hinawa got pretty dark, but Fassad just seems to be a Saturday morning cartoon villain. He even has his cartoonish "nweeehehe" laugh. The shock collar stuff is basically Looney-Toons-style physical slapstick, like Daffy Duck getting shot in the face with a shotgun. So saying that Fassad is bad with no remorse is like saying Skeletor has no compassion for He-Man.
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Oct 16, 2014 03:27
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Schwartzcough posted:I dunno, the part with Hinawa got pretty dark, but Fassad just seems to be a Saturday morning cartoon villain. He even has his cartoonish "nweeehehe" laugh. The shock collar stuff is basically Looney-Toons-style physical slapstick, like Daffy Duck getting shot in the face with a shotgun. So saying that Fassad is bad with no remorse is like saying Skeletor has no compassion for He-Man. Guy is nowhere near as cool as skeletor though.
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Oct 16, 2014 03:34
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He's a cartoon villain but he's also not outside of the realm of reality. There are people just like Fassad all over the world, in positions of power. Even in your very own town! Fassad is terrifying and elicits so much frustration and anger in part because he's so familiar. Everyone has seen reflections of Fassad's character in people they meet in their own lives.
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Oct 16, 2014 04:13
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W.T. Fits posted:Seriously, Fassad is one of the most loathsome characters I've ever seen in any work of fiction. He's so loving hateable. When the Drago turned its attention to him I felt such vindication.
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Oct 16, 2014 06:12
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Schwartzcough posted:The shock collar stuff is basically Looney-Toons-style physical slapstick, like Daffy Duck getting shot in the face with a shotgun. The key difference you're missing here is that Daffy gets shot in the face as a consequence of his own actions. Salsa gets shocked repeatedly for no reason other than Fassad's own sick amusement.
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Oct 16, 2014 15:50
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W.T. Fits posted:The key difference you're missing here is that Daffy gets shot in the face as a consequence of his own actions. Salsa gets shocked repeatedly for no reason other than Fassad's own sick amusement. I feel like it's more Tom and Jerry, except that Tom is winning right now.
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Oct 16, 2014 20:16
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Fister Roboto posted:I think it's a little weird if you're getting mad at a fictional character. Fister Roboto posted:If you're actually feeling rage building up over a fictional event then you really need to go talk to someone. You must have had a field day with some of the recent Game of Thrones episodes.
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Oct 16, 2014 20:21
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Raitzeno posted:I feel like it's more Tom and Jerry, except that Tom is winning right now.
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Oct 16, 2014 20:26
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JT Jag posted:Don't sympathize with Jerry. He's the dominant figure in a violent co-dependent relationship. Jerry's a dick. Tom only does the things that comes natural to him. Chasing Jerry is an instinct. But Jerry is a sociopath. He can escape Tom's clutches with ease, any time he wants, because he's smarter than Tom, but instead he decides to mess with Jerry. Hurt him, punish him for even trying. And the screwed up part is Tom keeps coming back. He needs the pain. He wants it. There was one cartoon where it was just Jerry and the baby mouse loving with Tom while he was sleeping. Tom had literally done nothing to antagonize them. They loving tried to SHOOT HIM. Tom won out in the end, though.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:18
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Yeah like Tom was just being a cool cat throughout the series and this mouse that kept stealing food and breaking poo poo and loving with the house and getting Tom blamed was the "good guy"
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Oct 16, 2014 21:22
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JT Jag posted:Don't sympathize with Jerry. He's the dominant figure in a violent co-dependent relationship. Jerry's a dick. Tom only does the things that comes natural to him. Chasing Jerry is an instinct. But Jerry is a sociopath. He can escape Tom's clutches with ease, any time he wants, because he's smarter than Tom, but instead he decides to mess with Jerry. Hurt him, punish him for even trying. And the screwed up part is Tom keeps coming back. He needs the pain. He wants it.
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Oct 17, 2014 00:57
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Under the vegetable posted:He's a cartoon villain but he's also not outside of the realm of reality. There are people just like Fassad all over the world, in positions of power. Even in your very own town! Fassad is terrifying and elicits so much frustration and anger in part because he's so familiar. Everyone has seen reflections of Fassad's character in people they meet in their own lives. Yeah exactly. Part of this is that he's so obsequious with the villagers but such a bully with Salsa. It's like he knows how to get along in a socially acceptable way but really he's just being however lovely he thinks can get away with; the moment he's with someone weak enough to prey on he turns vile. That is a little more realistic and nuanced than Skeletor I think.
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Oct 17, 2014 02:35
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W.T. Fits posted:Seriously, Fassad is one of the most loathsome characters I've ever seen in any work of fiction. He will NEVER get better. EVER.
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Oct 17, 2014 03:47
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Xander77 posted:It's called interdependency. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qltjIXLx5Cw Sup York.
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Oct 17, 2014 03:50
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