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Mu Zeta posted:Could they find an actor with less charisma? Nope.
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Mu Zeta posted:Tea Leoni is Secretary of State but with an edge. I think it's on ABC. It sucks. I dont know, but I enjoy her performance, but taste's differ and if you dont like her performance you won't like the show. The combo of The Good Wife and Madame Secretary is pretty good and you should watch them both if you liked The West Wing.
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Madam Secretary thread is up! http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3670184
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This has probably come up before, but I decided to put on some old episodes while I edited today and guess who shows up during "The Crackpots and These Women" (the first block of cheese day episode): Kind of fitting that he was advocating a wolves-only highway E: True  \/\/
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Oct 7, 2014 20:29
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But also ironic that he was advocating for the government to pay for it.
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What am I missing here?
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The Lord Bude posted:What am I missing here? That's Nick Offerman, best known now for his role as Ron Swanson, a Libertarian who manages a government office, on Parks & Rec.
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Joementum posted:That's Nick Offerman, best known now for his role as Ron Swanson, a Libertarian who manages a government office, on Parks & Rec. Ah. I've never seen Parks & Rec.
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Maybe you should. It's the second best political television show besides The West Wing in my opinion. Certainly closest when it comes to optimism and government.
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Superrodan posted:Maybe you should. It's the second best political television show besides The West Wing in my opinion. Certainly closest when it comes to optimism and government. I'll wait till off season when I'm not inundated in a million quality shows, then buy the whole thing on DVD and binge it.
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It's all on Netflix too.
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Sam Seaborn and Josh Lyman are also in it.
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Asiina posted:It's all on Netflix too. I live in a backwards country without such luxuries as 'netflix'
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Just started watching this and I'm about 3/4 of the way through the first season. I love this show so much already. It probably helps that I just finished Dexter but still, I think it's pretty great. I love all of the characters so far. I'm not hating the relationship "drama" that's going on, which I usually do. I'm actually enjoying it. The only thing that bugs me, and it's not even really a storytelling or show issue, is Joey Lucas' interpreter. I get from a show standpoint why he's there. Marlee Matlin can read lips and speak well enough, but they have the guy there so people can clearly understand what she's saying. Why's it gotta be a guy? Now whenever there's a scene with her, I imagine her having a guy's voice. It's a dumb thing and not even worth thinking about long but it's really the only thing that stands out to me. Also Charlie is pretty great. I was a big fan of Psych so seeing Dule Hill was a little of a surprise. (I'd never seen WW or heard anything about it. A friend told me I should watch it after watching Dexter and being so disappointed by it)
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MindlessHavok posted:The only thing that bugs me, and it's not even really a storytelling or show issue, is Joey Lucas' interpreter. I get from a show standpoint why he's there. Marlee Matlin can read lips and speak well enough, but they have the guy there so people can clearly understand what she's saying. Why's it gotta be a guy? Now whenever there's a scene with her, I imagine her having a guy's voice. It's a dumb thing and not even worth thinking about long but it's really the only thing that stands out to me. Her IRL interpreter is male.
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MindlessHavok posted:The only thing that bugs me, and it's not even really a storytelling or show issue, is Joey Lucas' interpreter. I get from a show standpoint why he's there. Marlee Matlin can read lips and speak well enough, but they have the guy there so people can clearly understand what she's saying. The interpreter is there because a deaf person with a job like that would have an interpreter, mostly for their own benefit. Lip reading isn't an exact science by any means, even experienced lipreaders only pick up about 30-40% of what's said.
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I always really liked Kenny. He has a soft voice so it never really bothered me. I always attributed it to her.
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Aside from her IRL interpreter being male, I already knew and understood the other stuff. My only gripe was with my association of her having a male voice. I know it's dumb and not even worth worrying about, but it was a conversation that the friend that recommended this to me and I were having, that's why I added it here. It doesn't take away from the show at all.
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Flirting through a male interpreter is funny. "Joshua Lyman, you have the cutest little butt in professional politics".
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Or the inner circle meetings in the basementBartlet posted:Before we begin [the secret meeting], does anyone here know Kenny's last name? Slashrat fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Victor Vermis posted:Flirting through a male interpreter is funny. Kenny, I swear to God that had better be Joey talking.
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Slashrat posted:Or the inner circle meetings in the basement quote:Before we begin [the secret meeting], does anyone here know Kenny's last name? Thurmon  He was introduced to Bartlet, so I don't buy he didn't remember.
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He probably did remember, and was just testing the other staff members whether they'd actually thought about his presence at the secret meeting, or had just allowed him inside because they'd gotten used to him always being with Joey (which turned out to be the case).
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Except there's a running joke through the whole series about him not remembering people's names (which is true of Martin Sheen also).
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Asiina posted:Except there's a running joke through the whole series about him not remembering people's names (which is true of Martin Sheen also). Is there? Apart from In the Shadow of Two Gunmen, does Bartlet ever display a problem remembering names? I genuinely don't remember. I guess this means it's time for another rewatch.
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JohnSherman posted:Is there? Apart from In the Shadow of Two Gunmen, does Bartlet ever display a problem remembering names? I genuinely don't remember. Yeah, in the campaign he had that problem. I don't know if it's a running joke, though. Guess I'll rewatch it too!
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He remembered the name of every staffer and assistant, including Ed and Larry, in the west wing just fine on his last day in office, even though in E&L's case he'd gotten them mixed up before.
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Slashrat posted:He remembered the name of every staffer and assistant, including Ed and Larry, in the west wing just fine on his last day in office, even though in E&L's case he'd gotten them mixed up before. President Josiah Bartlet: Listen, have I gotten any of the names right so far? Charlie Young: No sir, but you came drat close on a couple of them.
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Slashrat posted:He remembered the name of every staffer and assistant, including Ed and Larry, in the west wing just fine on his last day in office, even though in E&L's case he'd gotten them mixed up before.
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Hoops posted:I don't know if this was your point, but that was supposed to be a very sentimental, symbolic scene exactly because of the running joke about Bartlett always forgetting names. I know. That doesn't preclude it from also indicating that Bartlet is a lot better at remembering names than he has been letting on. Doesn't mean he always remembers names, but neither that he is as bad at it as the running joke tries to make him look.
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I don't remember Bartlett being bad at names as a running joke. It would be a weird problem for a politician to have. Ed and Larry are a special case where no one being able to remember which is which is a running joke. withak fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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He either forgets names or says that he can't remember names all the time. There's the scene in season 1 where he gets all the names of staffers wrong. When he's interviewing secretaries he says that he can't remember names and dates very well. In the open mic episode he can't remember the reporter's name. When he's trying to get a bible for inauguration, he gets the historical society guy's name wrong. When Will first joins he says "I can't remember your name, but are you asking me out on a date." He gets Ed and Larry mixed up (but that's everyone). Those are just off the top of my head.
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There's a fine line between "running joke" and Sorkin plagiarizing himself.
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Joementum posted:There's a fine line between "running joke" and Sorkin plagiarizing himself. I don't think that repeated examples of a character trait can be counted as plagiarizing himself.
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When he's interviewing secretaries he's screening for someone that can help him work around his MS.
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BARTLET There's a tremendous amount of information you need to keep track of: dates, names, number, things I'm not good with. MRS. HARRISON That's unusual, isn't it? BARTLET What's that? MRS. HARRISON A man of your intellect not being good with names and numbers. Especially an economist of your stature. BARTLET It's not intellect, it's memory. It's a different gift. A wonderful one. I've never had it. MRS. HARRISON There are excersises you can do. BARTLET Well... okay, I'll try and find that time
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Ed and Larry are pretty much the Rosencrantz and Guildenstern of West Wing and it makes me sad that we never got an episode about them with poo poo going down around them.
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"He said: 'What's next?'" drat this show.
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MindlessHavok posted:Why's it gotta be a guy? It doesn't and that's the point.
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