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JoshTheStampede posted:I also find the BoW videos super condescending because Killian just repeats and restates everything Carlos says and it really comes off as translating for a dude who is already speaking English. Restating what you think you just heard is pretty common, especially in technical communication. It lets Carlos know what Killian thinks he said, and Carlos can jump in and correct him on any points that has wrong. It works for the audience in that they hear the same thing twice, but stated differently, and if they don't think the statements match it means they are misunderstanding something. Shotguns are now as good or better than HMGs or spitfires in a number of situations.
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Mostly finished painting an Anathematic today. Pretty happy with how it turned out, especially considering that it's the model that sold me on the game and my faction of choice. May go back and add a few scratches and such, but maybe not.  
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This is marginally on-topic, but are there any decent fantasy skirmish games at around the same scale/number of minis as Infinity? e: ^^ yeah holy poo poo that's gorgeous dude
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S.J. posted:This is marginally on-topic, but are there any decent fantasy skirmish games at around the same scale/number of minis as Infinity? Malifaux, perhaps? (You should play Malifaux.)
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I really want that anathematic, but its so expensive pts wise and most people claim it isn't worth its pts.
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The Anathematic is my favorite model in the while Infinity range, bar none. Someday I'll get one just to have it painted and feel good about myself. On the table, he's the kind of model that is so dangerous that people will start making counter-lists, at which point his cost will quickly become not as tolerable. But let's wait and see what N3 brings....
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So I JUST recently started playing Infinity and I am seriously digging it. I went with the Morat Aggression starter because I think the models are glorious. My question for you vets may be difficult to answer really, but here goes. I love the new morat models, and I think a lot of the old ones really suck in comparison. I'm expanding my collection via the new line of morats first, but there are a lot of units I'd like that aren't redone yet. Based on your experience, would you say any of the older models are going to be redone in the near future? I guess what I'm trying to decide is whether to A - wait it out a few months since some people seem to assume they're all getting redone B - just buy all the old models now because it's going to be a really long time before they get new minis C - shut up and start collecting vanilla CA or some other faction
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brother-joseph posted:So I JUST recently started playing Infinity and I am seriously digging it. I went with the Morat Aggression starter because I think the models are glorious. Proxy until the new models drop. If you wait you could be waiting months.
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brother-joseph posted:C - shut up and start collecting vanilla CA or some other faction Pretty good chance they're all being redone in the excellent new style, but who knows when that'll happen. Good time to splash in some of the other sweet CA minis (like that dope rear end Anathematic).
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brother-joseph posted:Based on your experience, would you say any of the older models are going to be redone in the near future? I guess what I'm trying to decide is whether to 2. Possible resculpts soon-ish: Yaogats (Bostria(?) remarked that the new armor for Rodok would be used for Yaogat resculpts, so they are coming, but no date, probably months away) 3. Buy because who the gently caress knows: Everything else. Also, digging into vanilla CA is good. Morat firepower, Shasvastii infiltrators, EI command. CB releases stuff regularly but it will be at least 2 years until the whole Morat range gets redone. (and they still haven't released the combi Aswang despite it being the default absolute best Shasvastii LT. No I'm not bitter why do you ask) Pierzak fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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I started shasvastii and moved to combined while I came to grips with the game. Playing the full combined gives you a lot of appreciation and feel for how the sectorals behave. Plus EI and exrah stuff is really fun to play with.
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Thanks for all the comments, guys, that's super helpful. CA looks like they have a lot of options that seem really fun to play with. The other races' models ARE actually really cool and I'm warming up to them. I think I will buy some things that look cool and go from there.
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brother-joseph posted:Thanks for all the comments, guys, that's super helpful. CA looks like they have a lot of options that seem really fun to play with. The other races' models ARE actually really cool and I'm warming up to them. I think I will buy some things that look cool and go from there. One of us! One of us! (I haven't played a single game with my CA yet)
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This is the place I'd post a detailed writeup of good & best CA units, but gently caress it, I've done it several times already so just filter my posts in this and the previous thread to find some 
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Paper Kaiju posted:Malifaux, perhaps? The mechanics of that game are the only thing that even remotely interests me. I guess there are one or two factions that look cool though, but I was thinking more traditional fantasy than that.
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S.J. posted:The mechanics of that game are the only thing that even remotely interests me. I guess there are one or two factions that look cool though, but I was thinking more traditional fantasy than that. Weirdly enough there isn't really a traditional fantasy skirmish game in the 10-model per side range that Infinity and Malifaux live in.
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How about <30 models? As long as it's good and has pretty minis.
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JoshTheStampede posted:Weirdly enough there isn't really a traditional fantasy skirmish game in the 10-model per side range that Infinity and Malifaux live in. Yeah, the only thing that seems close is Mordheim, and, well, I like Mordheim but it's not the best. JoshTheStampede posted:Weirdly enough there isn't really a traditional fantasy skirmish game in the 10-model per side range that Infinity and Malifaux live in. Yeah, that's what I've found, so I figured I'd ask here. Does anyone else think that's weird? Because I think that's kind of weird.
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Pierzak posted:How about <30 models? As long as it's good and has pretty minis. I don't know how much it has changed and I'll probably cop a lot of abuse for it but the GW Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game can be played skirmish size and surprisingly mostly has really solid rules. Minis are pretty but as far along the generic fantasy scale as you can get. Otherwise look at SAGA maybe.
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The LotR skirmish game just uses the same basic rules as GWs other skirmish games like Mordheim, etc. It's not a bad game system but it's not super well made.
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Actually it doesn't. Mordheim is based on Warhammer Fantasy 6e rules while LOTR is an evolved version of their historical Wild West game or something. Completely different stats and combat resolution.
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dishwasherlove posted:Actually it doesn't. Mordheim is based on Warhammer Fantasy 6e rules while LOTR is an evolved version of their historical Wild West game or something. Completely different stats and combat resolution. Other than the fate/might/will thing being the big difference, what else is different? I honestly don't remember the fundamentals being different at all. e: I might be thinking of Gorkamorka rather than Mordheim actually ee: Yeah I'm thinking of Gorkamorka rather than Mordheim The stat names are pretty superficially different, it's actually the wounding chart that's the big difference in the LotR game from what I remember since equal values require 5+ instead of 4+, and LotR added in a push mechanic for winning fights and stuff S.J. fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Would Saga fit the bill? It's not really fantasy, but the "powers" that the battle boards give you aren't really historical either. Anglo Saxons Vikings Irish Battle Report I have a set of Normans and Vikings that my group scaled down to 6mm for cost savings and transportability. You can go 6mm, 10mm or the standard 28mm. 28mm isn't bad as you can get lots of plastic historical kits for cheap and your army will typically top out at 25-35 minis for 4 point games and 30-45 minis for 6 point games. Some pics of my 6mm Normans (which I have since completed).  10 Crossbowmen 10 Spearmen 10 Archers 11 Cavalry 1 Long house 4 Pit houses I have scaled the system from inches to centimeters for sake of expediency. The typical playing area is 48"x36" which for me would be 48cmX36cm.   I opted to go for a slightly larger board because I could. To measure distance for movement and shooting I made this  Very short=2cm Short=4cm Medium=6cm Long=12cm Foot troops move medium  So they can't reach these mounted troops Cavalry move Long  So they can easily reach the spearmen. Dirt Worshipper has a Viking force at 28mm.  Just a suggestion.
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Pierzak posted:How about <30 models? As long as it's good and has pretty minis. Ill probably get flogged because animu, but Anima Tactics is actually a lot of fun and all of the characters are very different. the TnA isn't too bad either for you boob haters out there. Back to Infinity, I sure hope they dont spend time re-sculpting everything, I have a retardedly huge collection, I dont need any reasons to rebuy something I already have.
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LumberingTroll posted:Ill probably get flogged because animu, but Anima Tactics is actually a lot of fun and all of the characters are very different. the TnA isn't too bad either for you boob haters out there. I honestly never looked at the Anima Tactics miniature game because the RPG is so loving bad.
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There are a lot of low model fantasy skirmish games, it's just no one plays them. Bushido, Brushfire, Hell Dorado, Freebooter's Fate, Alkemy, Carnevale etc Hell Dorado, Alkemy or Bushido are probably the closest in scale and style to Infinity/Malifaux. Edit: Wrath of Kings if you want something new and shiny and less, uh, "European" feeling. El Estrago Bonito fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Pretty sure Corvus Belli need to get on their own anime fantasy skirmish game styled of Beserk or something. Infinity is clearly the best skirmish game for scratching that scifi itch.
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My group has speculated it could be pretty easily done with the core Infinity mechanics, bows and such at B2 with a low DAM and crossbows B1 with a higher DAM. Existing rules could work fine, and with lesser ranged weapons, CC might be viable.
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Mantic is supposed to be coming out with a fantasy version of Deadzone at some point.
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Swagger Dagger posted:Mantic is supposed to be coming out with a fantasy version of Deadzone at some point. That's something I'm on board with. I wish I could've gotten in on the Dwarf King's Quest kickstarter, that looked right up my alley 
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El Estrago Bonito posted:There are a lot of low model fantasy skirmish games, it's just no one plays them. Bushido, Brushfire, Hell Dorado, Freebooter's Fate, Alkemy, Carnevale etc Except for Wrath of Kings which I thought was army scale, the rest of those are pretty non traditional fantasy. It's samurai or pirates or steampunk, not like elves and dwarves and Knights which is what I assumed he was asking for.
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A Song of Blades and Heroes is dirt cheap and designed to be generic (so you can use WHFB, Lord of the Rings, whatever models you like). I've played it with ~10 models a side and it works pretty well, it has a push your luck mechanic for generating order pools (roll 1-3 d6, if you get too many failures your turn ends, each success is an order for the activating model.)
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Yep, traditional fantasy, warriors and wizards and monsters, preferably with actually balanced rules instead of "here's something that we thought looks cool, hope it works for you" (Infinity spoiled me ). LotR is out because gently caress GW, I'm not supporting that company. Saga is historical(-ish) and too big for my tastes. Besides, I already have a Viking warband Anima Tactics looked OK until I started reading about no support, also everthing being a special unique character doesn't grab me. Dark Age looks nice and with a neat fantasy-post-apoc twist, Godslayer seems fun, I'll also have to try some of the titles you mentioned like Brushfire or Alkemy. And I totally forgot about SoB&H 
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Bob Smith posted:A Song of Blades and Heroes is dirt cheap and designed to be generic (so you can use WHFB, Lord of the Rings, whatever models you like).
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There is also Freebooter's fate and Freeblades. Freebooters is fantasy, with a bit of pirate flavor.
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After watching the template video, it appears that template scatter might not be a thing in N3. Unless there is a big shakeup in the speculative fire rules, a model with grenades or a grenade launcher and orders to burn can pretty much takes out models with relative impunity. Move out and back in without provoking an ARO, then place a speculative template. Either they dodge it or they don't, but they can't shoot back. If you don't get them, then you don't have to worry about it getting caught in the wind and flying half way across the table and randomly killing your own guy. Edit: not that any of that seems like a bad thing. Killing bad guys 101: pin them and then have a dude walk over and toss grenades at them until they are dead. Cyclomatic fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Oct 16, 2014 |
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Pierzak posted:Yep, traditional fantasy, warriors and wizards and monsters, preferably with actually balanced rules instead of "here's something that we thought looks cool, hope it works for you" (Infinity spoiled me I have also been recently trying out Iron and Honor which is a generic fantasy skirmish system that is fairly modular and pretty balanced. Alkemy is a very cool game, it was basically made to pick up the fallen crown of Confrontation when that went under. It however is loving impossible to get support for in not-French which is annoying. The rulebook is free however so you can peruse it: http://pj.b5z.net/i/u/2042237/f/Alkemy_Genesis-THE_BOOK.pdf and this guy has the cards in English: http://alkemynicoleblond.free.fr/english-version/khaliman-uk.html Unfortunately I don't think the company really has any intent of making it available beyond France right now which is sad. Hell Dorado was in a similar place but then a new company picked it up so we can only hope the fan community keeps translating stuff.
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Cyclomatic posted:After watching the template video, it appears that template scatter might not be a thing in N3. Unless there is a big shakeup in the speculative fire rules, a model with grenades or a grenade launcher and orders to burn can pretty much takes out models with relative impunity. Move out and back in without provoking an ARO, then place a speculative template. Either they dodge it or they don't, but they can't shoot back. If you don't get them, then you don't have to worry about it getting caught in the wind and flying half way across the table and randomly killing your own guy. Wait, did they change speculative to not a full order now?
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