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Canuckistan posted:I'm not sure if it's an urban legend or not, but according to my brother there was a Hells Angels clubhouse in his neighborhood and local crime increased after it was raided and closed down. Apparently the club didn't like a police presence in their neighborhood and encouraged people to behave. My parents own a commercial block with a bike gang "crash" property nearby (not a clubhouse). Dad says there is never any problems with breakins in the area.
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Oct 15, 2014 04:54
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Not that Juice will tell the real story, but Juice should tell the real story. Jax will never believe it anyways. Him being mad at his mom was for hiding Juice. gently caress you, you bad show.
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Oct 15, 2014 05:12
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Juice betrayed Jax by revealing to Nero that Jax ordered Juice to kill the mom of the school shooter kid, right? Nero doesn't seem too worked up about it any more, and Nero has more right than anyone to be sour at Jax.
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Oct 15, 2014 05:25
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Oct 15, 2014 05:37
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WTF! When those two cars full of black gang members saw a crowd of bikes coming at them, why didn't they just step on the gas and run over half the MC? THIS SHOW! aaahhh!
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Oct 15, 2014 05:53
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Good thing the black guys didn't duck, the sons would have wiped themselves out.
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You gotta hand it to Sutter, he really knows how to draw 20 minutes of story out into an interminable slog.
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Oct 15, 2014 07:53
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Oct 15, 2014 07:59
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What the hell happened to this thread? It's like it everyone stopped watching halfway through this episode. Also, holy poo poo no montage? Somebody check to see if Sutter's okay.
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The show isn't even interesting for a hatewatch anymore. That's what happened. There's no consequence to anything any more, much less any story. For gently caress's sake the supposed cliff hanger from last week didn't even have an on screen resolution. I'm frequently embarrassed to even mention I'm finishing this bullshit out. Still, the drinking game I devised with my brother as standard protocol... Well it helps.
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Next week on Sons of Anarchy: Juice reveals all at the Diosa Karaoke night through a clumsy rendition of "I shot the Sheriff, but I did not stab Tara in the back of the neck with a barbeque fork like Gemma did"
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Midnight City posted:
isnt the walking dead still a huge ratings hit?
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spronk posted:Good thing the black guys didn't duck, the sons would have wiped themselves out. Oh my god I didn't even think about this
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I've never seen tension so thoroughly drained from a show, especially a show that's constantly trying to be dark and disturbing. These episodes are full of scenes that would have been absolute nail-biters 3 or 4 seasons ago, but at this point we're given no reason to give a poo poo about any character, and the outcomes are so predictable its just impossible to care on any level. Its hilarious that FX gave Sutter these 90 minute episodes. I was changing the channel last night for extended periods to watch the ALCS and at no point did I feel like I missed anything.
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Basebf555 posted:I've never seen tension so thoroughly drained from a show, especially a show that's constantly trying to be dark and disturbing. These episodes are full of scenes that would have been absolute nail-biters 3 or 4 seasons ago, but at this point we're given no reason to give a poo poo about any character, and the outcomes are so predictable its just impossible to care on any level. Why is it hilarious? A shitload of people watch Sons of Anarchy and longer episodes mean more ads to sell. Network execs don't give a flying gently caress about the quality of a show if it brings in money hand over fist.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Why is it hilarious? A shitload of people watch Sons of Anarchy and longer episodes mean more ads to sell. I didn't say it was surprising, just that its hilarious. Its hilarious because these episodes have about 10 minutes of actual content in them.
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I think the show's popularity tells us more about the loving idiots who like this show. This show is absolute garbage, the action scenes aren't fun (like in the beginning seasons), the plot lines are thin or nonexistent, the characters are all flat now (how the gently caress does that happen? the duality of the club is completely gone and there are no more characters to root for, aside from theo huxtable), and the direction is terrible. That chase scene last night was filmed horrendously, not unlike that jax gif when he's chasing the ice cream girl down and he runs half way into the street while taking a corner. I watch this show for how bad it is, and to root against sutter. I have to realize that I'm in the minority because...loving idiots. This show is poo poo and I told my wife I will swear off tv for a few months if it wins ANY awards. Nobody slightly educated in television/film/literature should appreciate this show. Only loving morons. My real nitpick here was the 15 minutes wasted on gemma in the diner with gertie. Characters that seem to be bonding a scene ago, Sutter could have explored this. Instead gertie is a throwaway character and the interaction is meaningless. We know gemma is crazy and talking to dead people. We get that. It shows us Sutter is filling time in these commercial heavy episodes. loving gemma didn't even give the girl a fist bump on the way out. Just, "the old man will pay." Kurt Sutter can eat a dick and I will not watch any more of his shows. Ever again. Kill them all, save them all, I don't care. And anybody that does care is a loving dipshit with time enough to waste on this garbage.
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Why is Juice's crime so huge that the club must kill him? Didn't Tig cause about 100x as much damage multiple times? Jax isn't mad at Nero, and Nero isn't mad at Jax. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?
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Last Buffalo posted:Why is Juice's crime so huge that the club must kill him? Well now I guess we can at least say that Juice has gone to another MC and tried to make a deal for intel on the Sons. I suppose that is unforgivable. Before that though no, none of it made any sense whatsoever.
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2 things to consider for this season... How incompetent is FX that it blew the chance to further cash in on a weekly AMC-esque post-SONS talk show? You'd think they'd have ridden that cash cow AMC has really mastered. How ironic is it that the club is on the verge of killing Juice and just NOW does Jax float the idea of patching over The Grim Bastards? If Jax doesn't lose his poo poo & kill Juice on the spot when he hears about Gemma's involvement in ending Tara, he should make his last words to Juice, "Oh by the way, after we bury your body we're having a patch-over party for The Bastards. Sorry about your luck."
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Dead Snoopy posted:...patching over The Grim Bastards... I hope that ends with a double cross.
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Last Buffalo posted:Why is Juice's crime so huge that the club must kill him? Juice's spilling the beans to Nero didn't even mildly inconvenience SAMCRO. I guess you can argue that it was the straw that broke the camel's back but it still feels a bit much. On another note I'm still in shock that Sutter cast Lea Michelle and didn't have her play a porn star or get gang raped.
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Juice telling Nero as a reason to kill him is just about on par with Juice thinking the club would kill him for being half-black in terms of seriousness.
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Juice is so gonna die
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That was at least the best episode so far this season. Sons of Anarchy is actually half decent when they do club related poo poo and not just focus on Gemma. Take note Sutter!!!
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The worst stuff for me was that a) I can't loving keep track of who's running what at this point in terms of the other gangs/MCs because it's so convoluted and b) how many times does Jax have to gently caress stuff up before rival gangs/MCs stop immediately taking his plans at face value
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Who's the burly dude with long hair that's now in SAMCRO? Like, does he do anything, or does he just say oneliners and kill people when they ask. Happy seems to have disappeared, but where did this dude come from? He has less characterization than Tigg's smoldering daughter.
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Last Buffalo posted:Who's the burly dude with long hair that's now in SAMCRO? Like, does he do anything, or does he just say oneliners and kill people when they ask. Happy seems to have disappeared, but where did this dude come from? He has less characterization than Tigg's smoldering daughter. He was one of the nomad dudes Bobby brought in IIRC
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And is played by Rusty Coones, who is also a real Hells Angels.
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Wow, what an honor to play a character that says nothing and gets addressed with "Drive my mom home, go pick up beer."
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I'm calling it now. Gertie is JT's secret daughter.
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Oh jeez, 60 minutes without commercials today. Y'know, with the season premiere of the Walking Dead there were several points where I found myself nervous for the characters. Their situation was bleak, but they had a fierce determination and a plan. Sure, they were going to pull through, but there was a very real possibility that some of them weren't going to make it. I mention this because last week on SoA we were left with the cliffhanger of an unhinged, murderous Juice holding a sobbing Gemma at gunpoint after realizing that she was going to kill him. This week we immediately open with the cliffhanger being resolved off-screen with Gemma walking along the side of the road towards a gas station.  "They better have cigarettes." Because this is Sons of Anarchy, my friends, and we all know that nothing is going to loving happen. Anyway, we have Bobby out talking to Wendy about Jax. Rather, Bobby speaking as though he were the Jax Whisperer telling us all of Jax's deepest thoughts and feelings. Wendy: "So what's going to happen now, Bobby? What's going to come from all this?" Bobby: "I dunno." Wendy: "Does Jax know?" Bobby: "Doesn't matter, we're with him." Bobby: "It's his heart that drives him. He wants the best for both his families, though." This all rings hollow coming from the guy who cut off his VP patch and left the club in protest of Jax's actions (before Sutter retconned that). This season has been nothing but Jax blindly pursuing his revenge at the expense of everyone and everything around him. And Wendy still loves him. Loves the guy who's been treating her like poo poo since season 1. Hell, episode 1. The same guy that came in the dead of night, forced his way into her home, pinned her to a wall and injected her with a speedball about a month ago. But it's all water under the bridge because Jax Whisperer Bobby says that Jax still loves her. Why couldn't this scene have been with Jax? This all would've meant more coming from him. Reconciling his feelings, opening up to his first (well, technically second but you know what I mean) love about the things that weigh on his mind. But it wasn't, because Jax doesn't care about Wendy. This is pointless. Back at the bullet-ridden Diosa, a visibly shaken Nero is trying to make sense of everything. If this seems familiar it's because that's how we opened last week's episode. Anyway, Jax, who's turned deceiving Nero into a pastime, assures that they have his back and jokes that maybe he'll be calling him step dad soon. I'm done with Nero. Jimmy Smits is an incredible actor, and he's the only reason why I've tolerated the Nero character as long as I have. The Teller's have cost him everything but his son (and nearly him as well) yet he keeps crawling back to them. At this point, Nero deserves everything he gets. Huh, we find ourselves at a liquor store where Juice buys some blowpops before braining the guy behind the counter with a pistol whip and raiding the register. Also, Juice returns to Charming, because even the OnStar in Gemma's car wants him dead. We now live in a world where  and  share credits on an episode. That's kinda cool. Over at Teller-Marrow, the Sons are meeting with Tyler of the Niner's along with the Grim Bastards. Seems that Lin and Marks are in cahoots and are preparing for war with the Sons in what has been a spectacular backfire of Jax's plans. Tyler: "Do you have a plan?" Jax: "A lot of men and a lot of guns." Tyler: "Sounds like a plan."  Jax Teller: Strategist I have a hard time buying Tyler as a leader of a street gang with his perpetual expression of someone wondering if he left his iron on. He'd be a better fit as a designated driver, sitting in a nightclub with a glass of milk as he kept an eye on his friends' coats.  "poo poo" count: 1.At the end of the meeting, Jax, apparently realizing that the token slot is open with Juice out of the picture, offers membership to T. Don't do it, T! You've seen the hail of poo poo that surrounds the Sons! You'll just be another bullet sponge to protect the lesser members.  Seems to me that offering to patch in someone who's already the leader of their own, admittedly fledgling, club could be construed as an insult. I'm bummed. These guys are totally going to die. Does anybody say 'no' to Jax? I wonder if Jax will be as stupid as he was last season and take the Grim Bastards along with them to meet with the white supremacists.Jax spots Unser hopping into his truck to fetch Gemma - except that he was supposed to already be with Gemma. Unser stumbles through the conversation like a student caught without a hall pass. Oh, and he has to get Wendy, too. Because...  "Uh...feminine products."   "Sorry I asked." Jax buys it because he's an idiot. By the way, when does Unser sleep? A terminally-ill retiree scrubbed down a hotel room that looked like the aftermath of 3-liter bottle carbonated blood and a pack of Mentos, removed and disposed of a corpse of a man larger than him, and still managed to clean himself and his truck without getting caught. Between this and Piney, I think Unser has a promising second career ahead of him.  Chibs has a clandestine meet with Althea in their parking garage of love. Skeletons loving in a tin coffin slamming against a flimsy aluminum shack in a thunderstorm would make less of a racket than these choppers in a parking garage. Anyway, Chibs is surprised to hear that news of their raid and takedown of the Triad in broad daylight has gotten out. With word being that the Sons worked with the police to make it happen. "poo poo" count: 2.Chibs can't have people thinking that they helped the police, otherwise things could really get bad for them. I struggle to see how this could be possible, seeing as they've already betrayed all of their partners on several occasions. Before he leaves, Chibs pauses and thanks her for yesterday.  : "For the heads up or the sex?" "For the heads up. You should be thanking me for the sex." Hahaha, twenty innocent people are dead.  So Gemma's talking to Jax invites T and Theo Huxtable along with them to meet with the neo-Nazi's. Goddammit Jax, I was joking! Jax: "You'll have to ride in the back of the bus."  Certainly this won't come back and bite them on the rear end like it did last time. No way it could happen twice. Back at the bordello of blood, Alvarez and the Mayans confront Nero. Seems that Nero's role in the takedown of Lin and the Triad is construed as betrayal to the Mayans. As they cart Nero off, it looks as though his association with the Sons will finally cost him everything. Ghostpilot posted:Jax, who's turned deceiving Nero into a pastime, assures that they have his back... "Jesus Christ" count: 1.In what already smells like season 6, Jax tells the Grim Bastards to park in the middle of nowhere as the Sons meet with the Nazis. And, just like last season, the Bastards are immediately spotted and poo poo hits the fan. The Sons have a old-school rumble with the Nazi's worthy of the Outsiders. WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS?  At the truck stop, America's Friendliest Waitress wakes up the strange, dirty, schizophrenic Gemma passed out at her table and asks her to come along on her cigarette break. There they have a deep conversation in which Gemma alludes that she killed Tara. Instead of making some excuse to get away from what's apparently an escaped mental patient, AFW tells Gemma where she hides the spare key to her car and asks her if she'd like to go for a nap in the backseat. In no reality would this happen.  Yeah, I often befriend crazy people and invite them out back for a smoke away from any witnesses with the hope that they'll kill me. I have a knife, gloves and some Wet-Naps in my purse. Really, I don't mind. I was born in California in '93 yet my parents named me Gertrude. I'm a single mother working in a truck stop diner in the middle of nowhere. Have you seen the Men's bathrooms here? Honestly, you'd be doing me a favor. The trunk's cleared out, too. Just dump me wherever. Back at the Mayan's hideout, Nero gets shoved into a supply closet. We've got you, bro!  Juice shows up and wants passage to Mexico in exchange for rolling over on the club and Gemma's car. Meanwhile, Unser and Wendy meet Gemma at the truck stop. "Jesus Christ" count: 2.Gemma feeds a bullshit story about what happened. Wendy goes to the bathroom and while she's gone, Unser immediately calls Gemma on her bullshit. Gemma responds accordingly.  Shut your goddamned mouth, Wayne! Now pay for my pie!  And don't you dare sniff the seat when I'm gone. Gemma storms out. In an example of true monstrosity, not only does Gemma not tip America's Friendliest Waitress, she doesn't even pay for the meal. Back at the Mayan's hideout, the Sons show up and find out that Juice is inside. Juice shits bricks. Jax sets up a deal with Alvarez for the Irish guns and to take down Marks. I don't get it. Jax hasn't met a person he hasn't betrayed, everyone knows this, yet everyone lines up to get hosed over by him. You want a summary of seven seasons of gunrunning plot? Here it is:  It's this. Forever. So they yank the kutte off Juice and throw him into the storage closet with Nero.   : "Oh poo poo."Juice nearly tells Nero that Gemma killed Tara. But doesn't, because Jax and Gemma meet up in Teller-Marrow. Jax wants Gemma to tell the police all she knows about the Triad and Tara's murder to put up a stonewall on Lin's ability to cut a deal. Gemma reluctantly does so and kicks Unser and his trailer off their property.  *Cursssssse your consssssssscience. Hisssssssssss* The Grim Bastards do a drive-by on a Niner house. The Niners break out with guns blazing and give chase to  rap. They chase them down to an abandoned industrial district where they are ambushed by the Sons and Mayans. Remember the deal with the baby blue impala? Yeah, me neither. (Off-screen, the owner ran a Grim Bastard off the road earlier in the season). After T puts one into the owner's head, Jax engages in his smuggest browalk of the season: As the rest play "catch the bullet" with the Niners.  Whew, good job, boys! They would've killed each other if not for us! In an inexplicable day-for-night shot worthy Mystery Science Theater 3000, the Sons meet the Nazi's again and placate them with a van full of Niner corpses.  Aww, guys - for me? How did you know?  Satisfied with the Sons' hate crime achievement unlock, the Nazi's accept the heroin and depart. Tig lets Jax know that their usual dumping ground is full.  Don't look at me. Did you see a sign? Instead, they dump them at Marks' construction site.  As good a place as any, really. Not like anybody's going to notice. Back at Teller-Marrow, Nero returns to confront Gemma over Juice. He knows something is up, but doesn't know what. Gemma asks where Juice is and finds out that Jax has him. With the writing on the wall, she has a complete breakdown and collapses into Nero's arms. Don't know why she's so concerned, she can just do what she's done all along and say that she didn't do it. "Christ" count: 3.And finally, we end with Juice being carted off into the night by the Sons. As we wrap up here, I wanted to point something out. Crime rate data is calculated by the number of occurrences per 100,000 people. So if a city has 200,000 and a murder rate of 9, that means that 18 people were murdered that year. Now even if you figured that half of the murders this season took place outside of Charming city limits, it would still leave 2007 New Orleans in the dust.  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Schiavona posted:I dunno how the show (I assume) makes a ton of money and yet they're so cheap the CGI is crap and unless I'm mistaken, the day-to-night transition was a simple lens filter. the video was just darkened in post, everything in the background is still casting a shadow
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Schiavona posted:I dunno how the show (I assume) makes a ton of money and yet they're so cheap the CGI is crap and unless I'm mistaken, the day-to-night transition was a simple lens filter. At this point, I'm just doing stuff on my phone while watching this show and when my phone's battery gets low, the screen goes darker to save power. I looked up at the tv during that scene, and it looked exactly like that. Since I was tired, I was confused for a few seconds about the (non-existent) link between my phone's battery life and this train wreck of a show. And Ghostpilot, thanks again. You sir, are a national treasure.
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Ghostpilot posted:Crime rate data is calculated by the number of occurrences per 100,000 people. So if a city has 200,000 and a murder rate of 9, that means that 18 people were murdered that year. Charming would be at 408.75 hahahahaha.... For comparison, Oakland was at 127 per 100,000, as of 2012.
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