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The only way this game can grab me is if Fortress Crab is a figurine. 
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Count Bleck posted:The only way this game can grab me is if Fortress Crab is a figurine. Hedron Crab figurine 
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Oct 16, 2014 17:04
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Kraken Hatchling. 
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Oct 16, 2014 17:10
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It really irks me that the cards' abilities are similar to, but not quite the same as their Magic equivalent. Titanic Growth giving +2/+0? Also drat you Wizards, bring back Dreamblade.
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Oct 16, 2014 18:12
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Amen to that. Dreamblade looked awesome. Everything was so weird and cool.
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Oct 16, 2014 18:25
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Also what is up with that weaksauce frame? I guess it's just a placeholder.
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Oct 16, 2014 18:36
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Those are all just placeholder playtesting cards, right?
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Oct 16, 2014 19:03
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Yeah those look like paper to me, I doubt those are the final cards.
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Oct 16, 2014 19:18
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The game doesn't come out until Fall of next year, so I'm sure everything is pretty temporary.
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Oct 16, 2014 19:20
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Veyrall posted:Amen to that. Dreamblade looked awesome. Everything was so weird and cool. Dreamblade was fun the few times I played it but it never really hooked me.
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Oct 16, 2014 20:36
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Kind of an out of date question, but how does Champion work if you Champion a Champion? Will it return the first card, or will it get "buried"? I want to say it goes... play an elf Champion an Elf (elf is exiled) Champion a creature (Champ. Elf is exiled, elf returns) Champ.Champ dies, Champ. Elf returns and requires you to exile elf. Champ. Elf dies and elf comes back?
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Oct 16, 2014 20:54
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Gensuki posted:Kind of an out of date question, but how does Champion work if you Champion a Champion? Will it return the first card, or will it get "buried"? Champ2 comes in, you exile Champ1. Champ1 is exiled, Guy comes back into play. If Champ2 leaves play, Champ1 will come back into play. You will have to exile something else or sac Champ1.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:03
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Gensuki posted:Kind of an out of date question, but how does Champion work if you Champion a Champion? Will it return the first card, or will it get "buried"? You have three dudes, A, B and C. B and C have "Champion a guy". A is in B comes in, exiles A C comes in, exiles B B's "leaves the battlefield" trigger happens, puts A back in
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Oct 16, 2014 21:07
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If you have Leyline of Singularity out and you play 2 Mistbind Cliques, can you champion a Mistbind Clique with a Mistbind Clique or do you sacrifice it first? For some reason I can't remember if the Champion a Faerie goes on the stack or not.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:11
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Why the gently caress are standard decks costing 500-800 dollars to build? I already have all the cards but that is insane.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:11
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Angry Grimace posted:If you have Leyline of Singularity out and you play 2 Mistbind Cliques, can you champion a Mistbind Clique with a Mistbind Clique or do you sacrifice it first? You sac first, it's a state-based action, whereas the champion one is a triggered ability. Also, if you sacrifice the one that's already in play when the second one comes in, you still need to exile something or sac the second one as well.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:13
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Tonetta posted:Why the gently caress are standard decks costing 500-800 dollars to build? I already have all the cards but that is insane. What Standard deck costs 500-800 dollars?
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Oct 16, 2014 21:13
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Tonetta posted:Why the gently caress are standard decks costing 500-800 dollars to build? I already have all the cards but that is insane. No one wants the value of the set to decrease yet so all the prices are stupid.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:14
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Tonetta posted:Why the gently caress are standard decks costing 500-800 dollars to build? I already have all the cards but that is insane. Landsbases are absurd and mythics aplenty.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:15
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Angry Grimace posted:If you have Leyline of Singularity out and you play 2 Mistbind Cliques, can you champion a Mistbind Clique with a Mistbind Clique or do you sacrifice it first? For some reason I can't remember if the Champion a Faerie goes on the stack or not. You would have to sacrifice one of the Cliques as a state based action.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:15
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Angry Grimace posted:What Standard deck costs 500-800 dollars? I really want to empty quote this because I'm curious how we've reached legacy prices.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:32
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Angry Grimace posted:What Standard deck costs 500-800 dollars? http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1217978 Abzan midrange.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:34
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Count Bleck posted:I really want to empty quote this because I'm curious how we've reached legacy prices. I thought legacy was like 5k?
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Oct 16, 2014 21:34
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Angry Grimace posted:What Standard deck costs 500-800 dollars? http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1218101 this, for starters
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Oct 16, 2014 21:37
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Sickening posted:I thought legacy was like 5k? There are a couple legacy decks on the cheaper side. Like Burn. Burn's only like 400. Or was, and then Onslaught fetches got reprinted. Bugsy posted:http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1217978 TheKingofSprings posted:http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1218101 this, for starters Looked back at Theros Block's ridiculous white colored cards I vowed to avoid white for two years. Unless it was Weenies.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:37
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Bugsy posted:http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1217978 This is the PT winning deck 1 week after the PT of course it will be expensive. It is at its total peak. But, all the theros cards in that deck were 20-50% cheaper not 5 weeks ago. Also all the ktk cards in that set will be 20-50% cheaper by new years. $800 is not a really accurate figure.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:38
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Sickening posted:I thought legacy was like 5k? 2k tops maybe, for shardless BUG, which was the most expensive deck around the time TNN was released, using TCG medium - wastes, forces, fetches, and duals were all upwards of $100, as well as cradle, but a good chunk of any legacy deck also barely goes over $10. Fetches have gone down a bit by now. Vintage can hit the 5K range but I'm not sure about that either. Also of course alpha duals and poo poo like that is $1k+ but thats kind of ridiculous.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:38
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Sickening posted:I thought legacy was like 5k?
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Oct 16, 2014 21:38
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Vital Signs posted:Three color legacy decks are 2-3k. There are plenty of decks that can be competitive for around 1k, but stuff that plays 12 blue dual lands, fetches, and so on goes over 2k. I'm not sure any deck is 5k... maybe lands? Miracles before the fetch reprint, and Lands I think, yeah.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:41
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Count Bleck posted:Miracles before the fetch reprint, and Lands I think, yeah. http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/legacy-type-1-5/178371-tier-legacy-decks-lists-prices-etc-update-july Going off TCG mid BUG delver can hit 4.5k while everything else barely reaches over 3.5k. This is from july, so it's before fetches. Miracles is actually pretty low since it's not running Trops or U. Seas.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:46
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Zoness posted:http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/legacy-type-1-5/178371-tier-legacy-decks-lists-prices-etc-update-july Fair enough.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:48
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:This is the PT winning deck 1 week after the PT of course it will be expensive. It is at its total peak. This is really disingenuous. The notion proposed was that standard decks are worth $800 right now, and the fact that they were not $800 a month ago or will not be $800 in a few months doesn't keep that notion from being true. Like you don't look at the retail price of a game and say "well that price is inflated, when it goes on sale you can buy it for less so the retail price isn't the REAL price of it."
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Oct 16, 2014 21:52
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Angry Grimace posted:What Standard deck costs 500-800 dollars? This is my standard gr monsters deck. Its cost is right at $500. It should have 2 sarkhans so it is probably closer to $550-575 but I refuse to get a $40 standard planeswalker that doesn't look to be playable in other constructed formats. 9 Forest 6 Mountain 1 Rugged Highlands 4 Temple of Abandon 4 Wooded Foothills 3 Crater's Claws 4 Elvish Mystic 4 Genesis Hydra 4 Sylvan Caryatid 4 Courser of Kruphix 4 Goblin Rabblemaster 1 Chandra, Pyromaster 1 Nylea, God of the Hunt 4 Polukranos, World Eater 3 Xenagos, the Reveler 4 Stormbreath Dragon Sideboard: 1 Crater's Claws 2 Destructive Revelry 1 Setessan Tactics 3 Arc Lightning 1 Bow of Nylea 1 Chandra, Pyromaster 3 Nylea's Disciple 2 Arbor Colossus 1 Hornet Queen
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Oct 16, 2014 22:02
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:This is the PT winning deck 1 week after the PT of course it will be expensive. It is at its total peak. Cool, 20% cheaper by new years, when some of those cards will be replaced by insanely overpriced cards from the next set.
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Oct 16, 2014 22:03
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Tonetta posted:Why the gently caress are standard decks costing 500-800 dollars to build? I already have all the cards but that is insane. This started at least 2 years ago with the reprinting of shocklands. Thragtusk Jund, various Naya, Junk Reanimator, etc. all were priced in this range if you didn't buy cards when they were cheap. In other words, it's usually the manabase's fault. Notable exception to prove the rule: JtMS Standard. Prices are soaring in anticipation for Game Day and GP Los Angeles, but something is going to give sooner or later.
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Oct 16, 2014 22:27
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Tonetta posted:Why the gently caress are standard decks costing 500-800 dollars to build? I already have all the cards but that is insane. Agreed, it's ridiculous but realistically what is the answer?
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Oct 16, 2014 22:29
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I wouldn't mind a card like Hero's Downfall being uncommon (maybe w/ a bit of life loss to compensate), for one.
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Oct 16, 2014 22:32
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Alris posted:Agreed, it's ridiculous but realistically what is the answer? Make mythics more splashy and ridiculous and less 4 of constructed staples.
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Oct 16, 2014 22:37
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Make mythics more splashy and ridiculous and less 4 of constructed staples. Wizards is in the business of selling booster packs.
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Sickening posted:Wizards is in the business of selling booster packs. No poo poo. They also reprinted a bunch of stuff to make modern more accessible and standard is now hitting modern prices. Something will have to give eventually. E: I think they've gotten too good at making playable planeswalkers. It used to be like one of per deck except for superfriends type control decks and now just regular midrange decks run 2-3 walkers. Or it could be that wedge decks are being pushed right now. Weren't devotion decks fairly cheap? The more colors you play the more good cards you have access to and the more expensive the manabase is. Also Abzan is basically all rares or mythics. It has no good common or uncommon utility cards really. mr. mephistopheles fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Oct 16, 2014 |
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