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OkieMurse posted:Has anyone gotten into modding CK2 or EU4? I wonder how hard it would be to make a map that has nothing but borders and very clear symbols for terrain like the trees you describe. It would make it a lot easier for me to plan my troop movements. I think they're making a basic terrain map for eu4 now that provinces are always the same terrain.
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Knuc U Kinte posted:I think they're making a basic terrain map for eu4 now that provinces are always the same terrain. It sounded like the eu2 terrain map from the dev diary.  which was actually the default map and you couldn't really play in political mode (couldn't select, see, or move units)
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Oct 17, 2014 13:39
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There's a new dev diary now. Also lmfao at giving nat ideas to all these poo poo ocuntries that get annexed within 5 years of a normal game.
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Oct 17, 2014 13:42
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Knuc U Kinte posted:There's a new dev diary now. Also lmfao at giving nat ideas to all these poo poo ocuntries that get annexed within 5 years of a normal game. I need more national ideas so I feel like playing countries
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Oct 17, 2014 13:43
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DICKHEAD posted:I need more national ideas so I feel like playing countries Same.
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Oct 17, 2014 13:44
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DICKHEAD posted:I need more national ideas so I feel like playing countries I just htink it's a waste of time to make them for Tver and whoever else, when you could make them for italian minors and irish opms or whatever, who can survive.
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Oct 17, 2014 13:45
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What if you want to try to survive as Tver.
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Oct 17, 2014 13:45
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Oh sick. Arabia formation. And Ruthenia I guess. But unless they get ideas it'll just be like forming Romania: something I won't do.
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Oct 17, 2014 13:50
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Everyone getting the same Revolutionary Flag looks goofy, but whatever.
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Oct 17, 2014 13:51
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This is all the Wiz's fault. Why can;t his employers see the AIDS that he suffers from.
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Oct 17, 2014 13:53
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Le Troll Wiz: Hey guys, formable Ruthenia with generic national ideas...and unique ideas for Ryazan. 
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Oct 17, 2014 13:54
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Apparently there will be new Ruthenian states so maybe they all got cool ideas too
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Oct 17, 2014 14:00
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Ukrainian Ideas would be a Godsend.
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Oct 17, 2014 14:01
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Wormskull posted:Ukrainian Ideas would be a Godsend. there aren't? gross
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Oct 17, 2014 14:15
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I think Ukrainians get Russian Ideas.
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Oct 17, 2014 14:16
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Or Steppe Nomad ideas like Crimea does but I haven't released Ukraine in a long time.
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Oct 17, 2014 14:16
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Formable tags are super cool but the lack of unique ideas for doing so is sad. Like why bother forming Ireland when you already have the ideas. Just move to the New World and make Ireland in Canada.
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Oct 17, 2014 14:27
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Larry Parrish posted:Formable tags are super cool but the lack of unique ideas for doing so is sad. Like why bother forming Ireland when you already have the ideas. Just move to the New World and make Ireland in Canada. giant epic map letters
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Oct 17, 2014 14:28
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DICKHEAD posted:Oh yeah what's everyone's Europe look like with Charlemagne? Mine looks like the same as the start except advanced 2 years because I played as the Khanty suomi tribe and then lost a battle because my event troops deserted and hit alt F4.
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Oct 17, 2014 15:17
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why are they called ideas
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Oct 17, 2014 17:03
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Parallax Scroll posted:why are they called ideas Because what else do you call them. Their cultural ideas.
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Oct 17, 2014 17:57
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lotsa ppl in games thread really upset that it's harder to mindlessly blob across the map
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Oct 17, 2014 19:34
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My wife was plotting to kill me, so I imprisoned her for two years. Now she's loyal.
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Oct 17, 2014 19:55
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StashAugustine posted:lotsa ppl in games thread really upset that it's harder to mindlessly blob across the map straight up the biggest thing that makes me want to get this expansion the worst part of ck2 was always how there was this very narrow range between "one-province count of bumfuck, sit around on 5x for years" and "god-emperor of europe, imperturbable & invincible"; a duke or minor king as whom you could actually have fun. get too big and the fun stops, so you have to do 'make your own fun' poo poo like intentionally giving kingdoms away to relatives or w/e. if charlemagne actually fixes that, so that large empires can actually collapse in the hands of the AI or a competent player, I will pick this expansion up right now.
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Oct 17, 2014 21:16
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"In the new 'The Art of War' Feature Presentation the Sub-Saharan techgroup only had a 60% malus on techs." and from The Wiz "Sub-Saharan is only West Africa in AoW, East Africa is Muslim/Indian tech (with African units)."
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Oct 17, 2014 21:41
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I'm gonna do an Ethiopia game since they're Muslim tech now
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Oct 17, 2014 21:43
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Did someone in the Games forum make a list of the stuff in the stream so I don't have to watch it? I'm just looking through paradox forum and finding bombshells like this "a) Historically 'personal unions' were almost exclusive to European continent thus now they will be available only for Christians b) However other religion groups will have enabled Royal Marriages between each other (such as Sunni - Sikh) as - opposite to PU - it has been not - so - rare outside of Europe."
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Oct 17, 2014 21:48
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PleasingFungus posted:straight up the biggest thing that makes me want to get this expansion From everything I've seen, it should significantly hamper the blob but we'll see how it works over time. Haven't gotten into blobbyness myself yet, I have yet to unite Ireland (been waiting 15 years for a drat CB)
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Oct 17, 2014 21:49
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DICKHEAD posted:I'm gonna do an Ethiopia game since they're Muslim tech now Oh snap, add that to the list of games to do then. I love doing those types of games, and I like the Muslim mechanics.
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Oct 17, 2014 21:50
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OkieMurse posted:From everything I've seen, it should significantly hamper the blob but we'll see how it works over time. Haven't gotten into blobbyness myself yet, I have yet to unite Ireland (been waiting 15 years for a drat CB) the muslims are annoyingly stable but they were apparently bugged, see how it shakes out
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Oct 17, 2014 21:52
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StashAugustine posted:the muslims are annoyingly stable but they were apparently bugged, see how it shakes out This also applies IRL
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Oct 17, 2014 22:23
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the muslim empires were huge and massive for most of human history between the romans and like 1800 so its not all that surprising tbh. it sure as gently caress makes playing in spain/north africa/persia a loving DRAG though.
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Oct 17, 2014 22:30
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DICKHEAD posted:Did someone in the Games forum make a list of the stuff in the stream so I don't have to watch it? I'm just looking through paradox forum and finding bombshells like this The PU thing is good because Crimea ALWAYS gets PU'd by the OE.
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Oct 17, 2014 22:36
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This is just one of a million faggy whiny posts about paradox making the game too hard: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3551718&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=742#post436417996
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Oct 17, 2014 23:51
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Also LOL at that dude that wants to take the history out of Paradox games.
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Oct 18, 2014 00:00
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OkieMurse posted:Also LOL at that dude that wants to take the history out of Paradox games. I eye rolled at that post so hard.
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Oct 18, 2014 00:04
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At first I was really mad they took my beloved Assassination button away but now that I've played a while (and still had a guy assassinated anyways) I see why they did it and I really like it.
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That's part of the problem, though. The Paradox forum is a place filled with history buffs. History buffs are the worst kind of grognard; they're knowledgeable about history without understanding the underlying concepts of historiography and historical determinism. So, we end up with a lot of threads about how this one province should be this culture or how this duchy could never have formed without realizing that historical outcomes only seem predetermined in hindsight. A game like CKII or EUIV should be plausible, but allow the player to completely wreck history as we know it. As soon as you unpause the game at the start, history as we know it goes out the window. I'm sick of the historical railroading that Paradox has increasingly shoved into EUIV. CK2 seems to be doing this less, but it's still creeping in there as well. The game should be based around plausible mechanics that work on a macro scale and not working off triggered events. EUIV has been completely wrecked by this kind of poo poo. The new expansion with the specific Thirty Years War mechanics are a prime example.
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Oct 18, 2014 00:04
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Uhh, histiography and historical determinism...btw historical events ruined the eU franchise.
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i want more flavor, always more flavor
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