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suddenlyissoon
Feb 17, 2002

Don't be sad that I am gone.
Has anyone seen a release date for Best Buy, Target, etc?

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oblomov
Jun 20, 2002

Meh... #overrated

suddenlyissoon posted:

Has anyone seen a release date for Best Buy, Target, etc?

I would think next week. Don't they normally release (well, Best Buy) same day as Apple does? Especially if it's a Best Buy with an Apple mini-store inside.

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Edited out

Shammypants fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Oct 17, 2014

Tacier
Jul 22, 2003

I hardly hear anyone talking about the speakers on the iPad, but it's my primary music and Netflix machine and I never use headphones with it. From what I've read the Air speakers sound more tinny than the iPad 2. Have you guys found the difference to be very dramatic? I may actually be a reluctant candidate for a Nexus 9 due to its fancy front facing speakers.

Bryne
Feb 13, 2008

The Treachery of Forums

Tacier posted:

I hardly hear anyone talking about the speakers on the iPad, but it's my primary music and Netflix machine and I never use headphones with it. From what I've read the Air speakers sound more tinny than the iPad 2. Have you guys found the difference to be very dramatic? I may actually be a reluctant candidate for a Nexus 9 due to its fancy front facing speakers.

Music storage, player, great, but if any tablet is the primary way you *play music into your ears* you may want to evaluate how your life ended up this way.

Get some headphones or at least a bluetooth or dock speaker. You're asking people to describe the difference between two terrible options.

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Well I was totally wrong. Bestbuy mass email just sent out says preorder in store or online on October 17th.

The Illusive Man
Mar 27, 2008

~savior of yoomanity~
Have to say I'm pretty pleased with the updates to the Air 2, the A7 powering the original Air was a little disappointing but the A8X looks like a proper upgrade for the full-size model, especially coming from the A5X in my iPad 3. Hoping the 2GB rumors are true, but I'll take it either way.

I will say I'm blown away that the original mini is still for sale. I guess someone out there must be buying them, but the notion that the A5 is going to be supported another year is crazy.

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Well the same sources that scooped 1GB in the iPhone 6 scooped the 2GB rumor in the Air, so there's that.

Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme

oblomov posted:

It is very tempting actually. . However. I think if new Air has 2gb RAM then read plus faster cpu/graphics and larger screen will win out for me. Now, if I could get the 128gb model for 399 then I don't know.

Definitely the better choice. My iPad 4 with 1 GB RAM annoys the hell out of me with it's constant reloads (still decided to go with the Nexus 9 this year, iPad Air 3 next year). If the iPad Air 2 has 2 GB RAM it's worth the 250 dollar in my opinion, as 1 GB RAM will only feel worse as time moves on. Using an iPad Air in 3 years will probably be not very pleasant, while a 2 GB RAM iPad Air 2 will probably be something you think about using another year, as it still does what it should.

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!
The Air 2 looks quite nice, and in a weird way this is good news for Retina Mini owners (well, me). No pressing need to upgrade at all, unless you have a super hard-on for touch-id.

POCKET CHOMP
Jul 20, 2003

me irl.
Yep, it's kinda weird that I saw it as "good" too. I was forced into buying a Retina mini (i.e. I needed a new tablet to replace my gone iPad 2) mid-cycle, which I've never done with an iOS device before. Pretty cool that I don't have an outdated device at all compared to the current offerings other than that it doesn't have a touch ID. Frankly, I set the passcode lock time on my iPad to be an hour, with my iPhone I'm much stricter since I could lose my phone while out and about but my iPad mostly stays at home anyway. No big deal to not have a fingerprint sensor. :shobon:

suddenlyissoon
Feb 17, 2002

Don't be sad that I am gone.
That has been the weirdest release. No actual release date, no pre-order times, no mention of other stores. I guess the supply is really limited.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

suddenlyissoon posted:

That has been the weirdest release. No actual release date, no pre-order times, no mention of other stores. I guess the supply is really limited.

Yeah, tablets aren't a big thing anymore with the size of phones and all.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Space Racist posted:

I will say I'm blown away that the original mini is still for sale. I guess someone out there must be buying them, but the notion that the A5 is going to be supported another year is crazy.

Original iPad mini looking real good as a kids tablet if you want to stay in the iOS ecosystem.

mAlfunkti0n
May 19, 2004
Fallen Rib

FCKGW posted:

Original iPad mini looking real good as a kids tablet if you want to stay in the iOS ecosystem.

Unless the discount is STEEP for the refurb, there is zero way I would buy the original Mini even for a kids tablet. You can get the 16GB mini 2 for $250 refurb, it will last quite a bit longer as far as updates, etc.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?
Pre-orders now open on apple.com. I'm torn between this and the new Nexus 9, but given Google haven't even announced a price in the Uk I might just grab an air 2.

mulls
Jul 30, 2013

Just a heads up: In-Store pickup is "coming soon" and Apple isn't promising delivery until 3 days after launch day.

I ordered online but may look into trying to get one in-store on launch day also.

ArcaneMan
Nov 2, 2004
uh oh
I know applecare is generally recommended for the iPhone, what's the situation like with the iPad?

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


mulls posted:

Just a heads up: In-Store pickup is "coming soon" and Apple isn't promising delivery until 3 days after launch day.

I ordered online but may look into trying to get one in-store on launch day also.

Yeah I was a bit bummed that there was no pick up option.

Oh well, still got the 128GB space grey model :chord:

mulls
Jul 30, 2013

What's odd is that this is the first Apple preorder I've ever seen where Apple doesn't promise to ship on [release date]. I get that release date is the following business day, which makes things tighter than usual, but my order was quoted delivery by Thursday.

I'm sure Apple is under-promising and over-delivering, but it seems like Apple is cutting inventory times even shorter than usual.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.
So do we have a date for when these actually show up in Apple Stores?

suddenlyissoon
Feb 17, 2002

Don't be sad that I am gone.

ArcaneMan posted:

I know applecare is generally recommended for the iPhone, what's the situation like with the iPad?

I always buy AppleCare on my iPhones, never thought twice about buying it for my iPad.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

ArcaneMan posted:

I know applecare is generally recommended for the iPhone, what's the situation like with the iPad?

Bought it for my 3rd gen iPad but I'd feel pretty safe about skipping it when I upgrade. My iPad is pretty much for around the house and I'm careful with my electronics. I'll still buy it for iPhones I carry with me everywhere.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
So... I was about to take my jailbroken iPad Air and go to most current OS and in Software Update it just spins and spins and spins "Checking for Updates".

I removed the jailbroken /Cydia stuff... not sure what gives here? (I rebooted, twice, even...)

[edit] Irrelevant, I suppose. I'm so used to using that Wireless Cloud Life that I forgot I could just plug it into iTunes.

Feenix fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Oct 17, 2014

ChadSexington
Aug 12, 2004
I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.

Lexicon posted:

So do we have a date for when these actually show up in Apple Stores?

According to the rumors on Trusted Reviews the WiFi models at the very least go on sale on Wednesday.

Not sure if "TrustedReviews.com" is actually...err...trustworthy though.

suddenlyissoon
Feb 17, 2002

Don't be sad that I am gone.

Lexicon posted:

So do we have a date for when these actually show up in Apple Stores?

My in-store pick up from best buy said Thursday.

mulls
Jul 30, 2013

I had read they would be available Monday, but in retrospect maybe only iOS 8.1 launches Monday and they aren't dropping simultaneously.

Branch Nvidian
Nov 29, 2012



Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Phil Schiller said they'd be released next Friday during the keynote. I pre-ordered on Verizon and they're showing a ship date of 10/31 though, so who knows.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

suddenlyissoon posted:

I always buy AppleCare on my iPhones, never thought twice about buying it for my iPad.

Not that I want to discourage anyone from getting AppleCare, but the $100 for the plan plus $50 per-incident for accidental damage is really, really close to the cost of just upgrading once per year if you sell your old device. I've owned every iPad except the 4th generation and no upgrade has ever cost me more than $200, except when I moved from a 32gb to a 64gb model. It might be worthwhile if accidental damage in the first year is your only concern, but I'm not sure the extended warranty alone really ends up being worth it.

Dr. Video Games 0050
Nov 28, 2007

Paradoxish posted:

Not that I want to discourage anyone from getting AppleCare, but the $100 for the plan plus $50 per-incident for accidental damage is really, really close to the cost of just upgrading once per year if you sell your old device. I've owned every iPad except the 4th generation and no upgrade has ever cost me more than $200, except when I moved from a 32gb to a 64gb model. It might be worthwhile if accidental damage in the first year is your only concern, but I'm not sure the extended warranty alone really ends up being worth it.

It's so if you break it you don't pay hundreds of dollars. Unless you plan on not breaking it until you upgrade

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:

It's so if you break it you don't pay hundreds of dollars. Unless you plan on not breaking it until you upgrade

Yeah I'm really curious as to what Paradoxish is thinking the Applecare is used for.

MrEnigma
Aug 30, 2004

Moo!

Kaizoku posted:

Yeah I'm really curious as to what Paradoxish is thinking the Applecare is used for.

To be fair there is AppleCare which comes by default for a year. And then there is AppleCare+ which is the supplemental one, which gives you an extra year (or maybe 2?) of AppleCare and also gives you replacement for cheaper if you accidentally bust it. Standard AppleCare is just the warranty.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

MrEnigma posted:

To be fair there is AppleCare which comes by default for a year. And then there is AppleCare+ which is the supplemental one, which gives you an extra year (or maybe 2?) of AppleCare and also gives you replacement for cheaper if you accidentally bust it. Standard AppleCare is just the warranty.

Okay, I'm a bit thick, and the reason the extended warranty is a no go is because in that situation you're not going to have the ipad longer than the built-in warranty, so as long as you aren't the type who runs into accidental damage causing situations you might as well spend that money on next years model. I always see the extended warranty as the bonus, and the accidental damage as the selling point, but I've never even scratched an ipad yet...

Dr. Video Games 0050
Nov 28, 2007
At least in the store, I know you can't get standard AppleCare. Its just AppleCare plus. I don't understand people saying not to bother scratching your iPad because that's the whole point, you don't know if you're going to damage your iPad and instead of paying hundreds of dollars you simply pay less than a hundred.

Loomer
Dec 19, 2007

A Very Special Hell
I pick it up myself because I actually take my tablet places and, yes, sometimes it gets dropped. Switch easy cases are pretty tough but they aren't invulnerable.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005
Note that you only get an extra year with AppleCare on iPad, so if you plan to hold on to it for a long time you'll need something else for coverage later on, but hell if I know how other stuff compares.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

japtor posted:

Note that you only get an extra year with AppleCare on iPad, so if you plan to hold on to it for a long time you'll need something else for coverage later on, but hell if I know how other stuff compares.

Buy with most rewards card and it extends the warranty of apple care (not sure on damage) a 3rd year. At the very least covers defects or the battery for the third year.

THE BIG DOG DADDY
Oct 16, 2013

Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.


No one talks about this.

Duckman2008 posted:

Buy with most rewards card and it extends the warranty of apple care (not sure on damage) a 3rd year. At the very least covers defects or the battery for the third year.

You'll be hard pressed to find a consumer electronics company that supports warranties beyond two years ( except in the cases of "lifetime" warranties on headphones and cables)

Dr. Video Games 0050
Nov 28, 2007

Santas Ainol Elf posted:

You'll be hard pressed to find a consumer electronics company that supports warranties beyond two years ( except in the cases of "lifetime" warranties on headphones and cables)

Unless I'm missing your point Applecare is three years on computers

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tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Santas Ainol Elf posted:

You'll be hard pressed to find a consumer electronics company that supports warranties beyond two years ( except in the cases of "lifetime" warranties on headphones and cables)

It's not the company's warranty, it's a credit card service.

Basically, they match the benefits of whatever manufacturer warranty for a year past that warranty's expiration, but it's usually done via reimbursement. So you pay for the replacement and then the cc company refunds you the cost minus whatever the terms of the warranty require you to pay (say 109 or whatever for accidental damage).

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