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Parmesan Basil posted:Joe Buck called the "NotYourShield" hashtag a "disgusting act" Funny how Roger Goodell just dropped off the map when #GamerGate took off. No public comment on the state of his beloved hobby, dodging the tough questions on when he will stomp out SJW and feminist influence in games
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commy gun posted:Deeming a player not productive after 6 weeks is dumb and the Seahawks aren't dumb. They gave up a lot to get him and gave him an extension so they'd be inclined to give it time. They didn't. commy gun posted:I also don't buy that they'd trade him because the coach looks silly. They let Pete Carroll start Russell Wilson over a free agent QB, and it was much of an eye raiser as I can remember. They don't cave to media scrutiny. A rookie QB? That isn't silly, and it hasn't been silly in years. Its much rarer to see the rookies sit, if you have any hope for them at least.
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russell wilson wasn't a first rounder and it was a big head scratcher when matt flynn was mysteriously benched. of course now we know that wilson is good and flynn is terrible, but at the time flynn was some hot poo poo.
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He outplayed him training camp, its not weird or that silly. Though I should mention I don't say they traded him to avoid looking silly, I said that was probably the motive for the leaks.
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CharlestheHammer posted:He outplayed him training camp, its not weird or that silly. actually matt flynn was "injured" for almost all of preseason and training camp. there wasn't actually a real competition. again, likely because carroll realized what a turd he was.
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Oct 19, 2014 02:06
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players who are legit locker room cancers or bad team players almost always have stuff come out about them while they're on the team(s) that trade them, not in the week before/after the trade. they also usually make a rear end out of themselves in the media at some point. I don't recall anything like that happening with Harvin, and I doubt two organizations could/would organize that kind of media blackout. like, even the Desean Jackson comparison doesn't make sense cause he'd been called out in the media before for being selfish, being a bad teammate, associating with "thugs" (whether it was true or overblown or not). Yes it got ratcheted waaaay up last offseason, but it didn't come out of nowhere.
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Oct 19, 2014 02:22
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Parmesan Basil posted:I have to give props to Carlos Dunlap, who said this about Harvin and the hashtag: "I don't like it. I want women in video games and I don't want them harrassed. This guy thinks because he's got a ring, he can pretend that Bayonetta 2 doesn't have problematic material." 
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Oct 19, 2014 02:37
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It's already been said, but this is likely a cap move being spun as Harvin being a cancer in order for the front office to save face. They don't value him enough to justify the price-tag, and it's unfortunate that they aren't coming out and admitting that. If there really were any locker room cancer issues going on it's likely more along the lines of friction between Harvin and the coaching staff.
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Oct 19, 2014 03:55
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I think the rumors about him messing with coaches and plays recently is the more likely culprit. Especially since he does have a history of fighting coaches, albeit deserved or not.
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Brannock posted:Clearly there've been instances before where teams have leaked false stories about a departing player or coach, but I'm curious if there's been incidents where people within the organization have come out and said "Nah, that's all bullshit". I can't think of any off the top of my head but I'm sure it's happened. For some reason I find it shocking that Golden Tate hasn't said anything about accusations of him being body slammed. Or just have some reporter say to Richard Sherman "Percy Harvin said you were a terrible cornerback. Your response?"
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indigi posted:players who are legit locker room cancers or bad team players almost always have stuff come out about them while they're on the team(s) that trade them, not in the week before/after the trade. they also usually make a rear end out of themselves in the media at some point. I don't recall anything like that happening with Harvin, and I doubt two organizations could/would organize that kind of media blackout. Harvin absolutely had stories written about him being a pain in the Vikings locker room well ahead of his being traded. No one here faulted him for it, though, because the other side of the argument were Brad Childress, Rock Spielman and Leslie Frazier.
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Having the team effectively justify this trade because of some supposed locker room "mutiny" against Wilson is stultifying considering the possible ramifications for the esprit de corps of the team to say nothing of the possibility of inviting unwanted media narratives. The front office deserves to have an actual players' mutiny in response but unfortunately the Seahawks are good enough and seemingly cohesive enough as a team to avoid a proper meltdown.
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DangerKat posted:Harvin absolutely had stories written about him being a pain in the Vikings locker room well ahead of his being traded. No one here faulted him for it, though, because the other side of the argument were Brad Childress, Rock Spielman and Leslie Frazier. Oh word, maybe I forgot about it then. Hmm. It still seems like both teams that have traded him had compelling financial reasons.
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King Hong Kong posted:Having the team effectively justify this trade because of some supposed locker room "mutiny" against Wilson is stultifying considering the possible ramifications for the esprit de corps of the team to say nothing of the possibility of inviting unwanted media narratives. The front office deserves to have an actual players' mutiny in response but unfortunately the Seahawks are good enough and seemingly cohesive enough as a team to avoid a proper meltdown. To be fair there has been a notable lack of chemistry on the offensive side of the ball this year. Whether/How much of that pertains to Harvin is anybodies guess, but something is up with the offense this year and that's not counting the lovely O-line play.
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http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/10/18/7000379/percy-harvin-golden-tate-fight-seahawks-trade-jets-nfl lol WHAT quote:According to Florio, Harvin reportedly "body slammed" Tate at the team hotel, and that the other players "initially feared Harvin broke Tate's neck." The report also goes on to say that Harvin might have been in danger of "being on the wrong end of a Code Red from teammates who had enough of his angry, moody, erratic ways."
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Mister Fister posted:http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/10/18/7000379/percy-harvin-golden-tate-fight-seahawks-trade-jets-nfl Sounds like Ol' Maple Bars was dipping into Percy's stash. Purely wild speculation on my part, obviously.
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hawks embracing the post-superbowl heel turn
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Mister Fister posted:http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/10/18/7000379/percy-harvin-golden-tate-fight-seahawks-trade-jets-nfl I find Code Red to be the most divisive Mountain Dew flavor
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Mister Fister posted:http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/10/18/7000379/percy-harvin-golden-tate-fight-seahawks-trade-jets-nfl Yeah makes sense that this would only come out now. Love that it's evolved from Harvin giving Tate the Steve Smith Experience to a tombstone piledriver.
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Oct 19, 2014 05:39
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Can someone explain code red to me like I'm a fogie, they were just gonna beat the poo poo out of him?
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percy harvin killed tate?? smdh genius of seattle's from office to fleece the jets then
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Dirt Worshipper posted:Can someone explain code red to me like I'm a fogie, they were just gonna beat the poo poo out of him? Pretty much. I don't know if it's a legit term, but that's what it meant in A Few Good Men
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Dirt Worshipper posted:Can someone explain code red to me like I'm a fogie, they were just gonna beat the poo poo out of him? Essentially. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FnO3igOkOk
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Aaron Sorkin's influence knows no bounds
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wheez the roux posted:hawks embracing the post-superbowl heel turn That happened pre super bowl
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Dirt Worshipper posted:Can someone explain code red to me like I'm a fogie, they were just gonna beat the poo poo out of him? Basically. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jWwh58oNbE&t=38s I wanna see Pete Carrol in this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg
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HappyHelmet posted:To be fair there has been a notable lack of chemistry on the offensive side of the ball this year. Whether/How much of that pertains to Harvin is anybodies guess, but something is up with the offense this year and that's not counting the lovely O-line play. It is entirely possible - even if the stories seem exaggerated in this case - that something is wrong in the locker room. That would also obviously be a reasonable reason to trade a player away or to release that player. However, leaking information about a lack of chemistry within the team does not redound to the front office's credit and should be a red flag to anyone potentially signing a deal with the team.
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Parmesan Basil posted:Joe Buck called the "NotYourShield" hashtag a "disgusting act" To be fair it is pretty stupid
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Apparently the Seahawks tried to get Julius Thomas (and his expiring deal) for Harvin? Denver probably got a laugh out of that one.
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King Hong Kong posted:It is entirely possible - even if the stories seem exaggerated in this case - that something is wrong in the locker room. That would also obviously be a reasonable reason to trade a player away or to release that player. However, leaking information about a lack of chemistry within the team does not redound to the front office's credit and should be a red flag to anyone potentially signing a deal with the team. Definitely, but considering the Hawks are on the hook for all the guaranteed money and the Jets are only losing a 4th (max). "Locker room caner" or no, the Jets are walking away with a really good deal here.
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This doesn't seem all that concerning to me. @KMart_LI Michael Robinson, who was one of the SEA players who broke up Percy/Golden fight, said Harvin is "a very private guy, a no-nonsense guy." Robinson on Percy: "He’s a guy u like on ur team. He doesn’t play around much. He can be difficult at times to get along with." Robinson never had a problem w/ Percy, but said Harvin fit in "a lil bit" in SEA + realized he wasn’t going to be “the main show” on offense Robinson said fights b/t teammates happen all the time. "The concerning part is, this actually got out. ...it’s disheartening," he said. @RapSheet Percy Harvin talks to @MikeVick once a week, considers him a mentor. The hope is that the #Jets QB will ease Harvin’s transition to NY.
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Michael Robsinson posted:"We kind of talked about it afterwards," he said. "I talked to Percy and Golden and they ironed their situation out. But again, you've been in locker rooms, these type of things happen all the time. Families fight. That is what is so disturbing. Again, this type of information usually doesn't get out of that locker room. Why it comes out now, almost a year after the Super Bowl is mind-boggling. " Hmmmm I wonder how it came out
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Seattle tried to trade Harvin for Jordan Cameron. I can't imagine what else they were offering in the pot if they eventually settled for a single mid-round pick.
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Now there are reports that the Seahawks would have cut Harvin if they couldn't trade him, which seems ridiculous.
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Dirt Worshipper posted:Can someone explain code red to me like I'm a fogie, they were just gonna beat the poo poo out of him? Dude, how havent you seen that movie
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Oct 19, 2014 16:17
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I love Parm's shift into a funny poster now that he is restricted on what he posts about
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MonsterWalk posted:Seattle tried to trade Harvin for Jordan Cameron. I can't imagine what else they were offering in the pot if they eventually settled for a single mid-round pick. John Idzik/Rex Ryan must be master negotiators
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Pron on VHS posted:I love Parm's shift into a funny poster now that he is restricted on what he posts about Same
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Harvin would throw fits and take himself out of the game if he wasn't getting the ball enough, even in a preseason game because he didn't get to return punts. Lol enjoy New York you bitchmade pussy.
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Afraid Aids Cum with a fresh take But whys your sig turned off bro
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