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Can someone explain to me why a lot of red aggro decks are including 'Eidolon of the Great Revel'? It would seem to hurt the red player more than anything else.
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Xeom posted:Can someone explain to me why a lot of red aggro decks are including 'Eidolon of the Great Revel'? It would seem to hurt the red player more than anything else. It's two mana and it deals an almost guaranteed two damage to your opponent, and often deals much more. Aggressive red decks win by killing their opponent before their own gameplan really comes online, so it really doesn't matter how much damage you take.
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Oct 19, 2014 04:00
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Xeom posted:Can someone explain to me why a lot of red aggro decks are including 'Eidolon of the Great Revel'? It would seem to hurt the red player more than anything else. Play it at the proper time and a lot of decks can't do one goddamn thing to it without shocking themselves. You're the guy on the offensive so taking 2 damage to drop a rabblemaster isn't nearly as big of a deal as the person getting punched repeatedly.
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Oct 19, 2014 04:02
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Post your list? I like to compare mine vs others. Currently my mainboard is creature-less and heavy on walkers. I got to playtest against jeskai tempo this week and also found that matchup to be fairly comfortable. This list: http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=8278&d=247579&f=ST + confluence -Urborg (lots of junk decks that also run their own Urborg) -3 Sarkhan +3 wing mate roc - thoughtseize +despise -empty the pits + soul of Innistrad. It's ok but i just didn't like 2 pits in there. Might try Sarkhan in that slot but I actually don't like him right now. He doesn't kill rhinos and trading him for a courser is disgusting. Played Jeskai twice, mono red twice, Mardu "aggro" (blood champ engine and ash cloud which is really bad in the mirror), and junk 3 times. Lost to junk once due to the siege train rolling in. The only real problem this deck has is that stupid death dealer. It's usually a 2-1 unless you have an utter end.
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Oct 19, 2014 04:02
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Chill la Chill posted:This list: http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=8278&d=247579&f=ST Ah ok thats way different than the walker control I'm running. Do you like mardu charm? I'm not sold on it. I can't imagine wanting it over a downfall or crackling doom very often, but I guess the tokens are good with butcher?
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Oct 19, 2014 04:09
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Posting to say 5-color in draft is extremely fun / not out of the question to even force. Tried it for the first time today where I just kept taking lands and powerful cards, and ended up with a sweet deck with a lot of play to it that wasn't boring (like the clan decks can be, I've found). Maybe not the best strategy for an 8-4, but for swiss where you just want to have fun interactive games with a gorgeous mana base it's a sweet deck to draft. The life-gain on the lands + ability to cast morphs in a pinch makes it much more consistent/less painful than you'd think.
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Oct 19, 2014 04:20
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Ah ok thats way different than the walker control I'm running. Yeah. They're mostly there against RDW (huge 2-turn blow out) and the more planes walker heavy junk decks. Usually it's turn 1/2 thoughtseize into sign in blood or read the bones and then charm away a walker - or vice versa on the draw. Post board it's not as necessary but there's only one utter end main. You are probably right since charm isn't as good vs. death dealer and rhino but I just really love that instant duress effect.
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Oct 19, 2014 04:20
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Sultai going 8-0 warms my heart.
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Oct 19, 2014 04:21
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Posting to say 5-color in draft is extremely fun / not out of the question to even force. Tried it for the first time today where I just kept taking lands and powerful cards, and ended up with a sweet deck with a lot of play to it that wasn't boring (like the clan decks can be, I've found). Maybe not the best strategy for an 8-4, but for swiss where you just want to have fun interactive games with a gorgeous mana base it's a sweet deck to draft. The life-gain on the lands + ability to cast morphs in a pinch makes it much more consistent/less painful than you'd think. Am I being a bit weird for being annoyed at that? It probably didn't matter, and I didn't feel comfortable telling him not to watch... but he did have information that I didn't have.
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Oct 19, 2014 04:40
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Daily reminder that people who play with their lands in front of their creatures are literally monsters.
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Oct 19, 2014 04:41
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Pinwiz11 posted:Sultai going 8-0 warms my heart. Eh? Where is this? Been trying to come up with a good Sultai deck. 
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Oct 19, 2014 04:55
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So I Jeskai Won Gameday today. I got very lucky in that I didn't see the mirror match all day in the swiss or the top 8. My sick tech(tm) was 4 Glare of Heresy in the SB and it was an all star vs Abzan as well as Mardu (I also boarded 3 Brimaz to bring in vs the mirror and i didn't get to play them all day.) I must have killed Sorin with it at least 4-5 times, Butcher of the Horde too. Apparently there are people who play Abzan without Siege Rhino which led me to shake their hand after winning easily and thank them for not playing Siege Rhino.
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Oct 19, 2014 05:00
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It's on the magic stream. http://www.twitch.tv/magic It's currently a 8-0 sultai deck vs. a 8-0 temur deck. So its basically win-win for cool decks.
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Oct 19, 2014 05:00
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Anyone got that UB list people were talking about earlier on? This standard looks amazing really, pretty tempted to buy into a paper format for the first time in a while!
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Oct 19, 2014 05:21
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Obscil posted:It's on the magic stream. http://www.twitch.tv/magic
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Obscil posted:It's on the magic stream. http://www.twitch.tv/magic Is there a RUG list anywhere?
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Oct 19, 2014 05:30
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I ended up placing first at my LGS's Game Day thing with a Mardu Warriors deck that I thought was awful. Ended up beating two Abzan Midrange decks, a Mardu Midrange deck, and a Jeskai Combo, only losing to Mono-Black Aggro in the final round (I was the only undefeated player by round five). It's a fun deck, but there were a few cards I didn't really see played much that I could probably take out and replace with something else. I'll throw up the deck in the deck-building thread thing. A+ set would pull fetch lands again
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Oct 19, 2014 05:42
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suicidesteve posted:Is there a RUG list anywhere?
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Oct 19, 2014 05:46
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suicidesteve posted:Is there a RUG list anywhere? It's looking like a super mild modification of the deck he ran at PTKTK (Pedro Carvalho ran something quite similar). Additions to the 75 look like at least Sarkhan and Disdainful Stroke. I was out most of the day and only saw the tail end of things. neetengie posted:gently caress yeah Temur monsters, knew that deck would show up eventually. It was there last weekend and Pedro scored 21 points with it. It just wasn't paid attention to, even though it was literally the only Temur deck that scored 21+.
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Oct 19, 2014 05:46
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ShaneB posted:It's looking like a super mild modification of the deck he ran at PTKTK (Pedro Carvalho ran something quite similar). Additions to the 75 look like at least Sarkhan and Disdainful Stroke. I was out most of the day and only saw the tail end of things.
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Oct 19, 2014 05:50
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Zorak posted:Siege Rhino doesn't care if you've got removal, even if you remove it you're basically not outracing the deck it's in. I'm not sure what kind of deck could be built to actually combat it at this point. I have a deck that beats this one a fairly high percent of the time. 4 mardu ascendancy 4 goblin rabblemaster 3 butcher of the horde 4 swiftspear Monestary 4 crackling doom 2 bloodsoaked champion 3 street denizen 3 magma jet 2 stoke the flames 4 Akroan Hoplite 3 Seeker of the Way 4 Mardu land 4 Bloodstained Mire 1 Plains 1 Swamp 4 Mountain 3 Battlefield Forge 3 w/b pain 3 mana confluence 1 urborg 4 Lightning Strike 1 Magma Jet 2 Stoke the Flames 2 Utter End 4 Thoughtseize 2 Ride Down
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Oct 19, 2014 06:29
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Xeom posted:Can someone explain to me why a lot of red aggro decks are including 'Eidolon of the Great Revel'? It would seem to hurt the red player more than anything else. It's really easy to fall into the trap of undervaluing effects because they cause you to lose life. Lots of players do it. Try thinking about life as a resource to be spent. The win condition is getting the other guy to zero life as fast as possible. If you're at two life and they're at zero, you win just as much as if you're at twenty and they're at zero. to phrase it another way, it's fine if your stuff hurts you as long as it kills them before it does you.
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Oct 19, 2014 06:43
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neetengie posted:He said Temur so yes there is, Kibler is running it, 9-0. That's why I asked for the list?
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Oct 19, 2014 07:13
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I'd love to see the 9-0 mardu list.
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Oct 19, 2014 07:30
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went 3-1-1 on gameday, lost first round of top 8, with minotaurs. Best thing is seeing the surprise on people faces when you drop kragma warcaller for 3 colorless on turn 4 and hit them for a million.
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Oct 19, 2014 10:30
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Pinwiz11 posted:Sultai going 8-0 warms my heart. As someone who got utterly destroyed playing sultai I'd also be very interested in seeing this deck
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Oct 19, 2014 12:20
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suicidesteve posted:That's why I asked for the list? I too would like the Temur list,
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Oct 19, 2014 13:33
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I head judged a PTQ yesterday at Brothers Grim in Long Island that went pretty well. We got 128 players on the dot. I don't know how many people know this, but 129 players is 8 rounds. We were one player short of having to be there an extra hour.
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Oct 19, 2014 15:16
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Heads up, MTGO appears to be having a meltdown again. The event I'm in has stalled and the tech support chatroom suggests that it's far from the only one.
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Oct 19, 2014 15:44
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Ended up taking 2nd at Game Day yesterday with Mardu Control. Got a playmat and my only loss was to a deck running Clever Impersonators and Scuttling Doom Engines which I just couldn't figure out how to deal with short of pulling them from his hands with Thoughtseize and Despise which I didn't see game 2 or 3. Deck List: Deck: Mardu Control    //Lands 2 Battlefield Forge 2 Caves of Koilos 3 Mountain 4 Nomad Outpost 2 Plains 2 Swamp 3 Temple of Malice 3 Temple of Silence 2 Temple of Triumph 1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth //Spells 1 Murderous Cut 4 Anger of the Gods 4 Crackling Doom 2 Despise 2 Elspeth, Sun's Champion 3 End Hostilities 4 Hero's Downfall 2 Utter End 1 Liliana Vess 3 Mardu Charm 3 Read the Bones 2 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker 2 Thoughtseize //Creatures 3 Stormbreath Dragon //Sideboard 3 Nyx-Fleece Ram 2 Thoughtseize 2 Despise 1 Mardu Charm 3 Drown in Sorrow 2 Hushwing Gryff 2 Resolute Archangel  Display deck statisticsEdit: changed the decklist style. Obsoletely Fabulous fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Oct 19, 2014 |
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Oct 19, 2014 15:52
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I wonder why Andre Basista didn't run a playset of Courser of Kruphix like every other green deck for Temur Midrange. Puzzling.
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Oct 19, 2014 17:00
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Count Bleck posted:I wonder why Andre Basista didn't run a playset of Courser of Kruphix like every other green deck for Temur Midrange.
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Oct 19, 2014 17:21
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Obsoletely Fabulous posted:Ended up taking 2nd at Game Day yesterday with Mardu Control. Got a playmat and my only loss was to a deck running Clever Impersonators and Scuttling Doom Engines which I just couldn't figure out how to deal with short of pulling them from his hands with Thoughtseize and Despise which I didn't see game 2 or 3. Whatever you are using to make this decklist, please don't. It absolutely trashes the mobile client.
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Oct 19, 2014 17:38
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Toshimo posted:Whatever you are using to make this decklist, please don't. It absolutely trashes the mobile client. Looks fine on Awful
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Oct 19, 2014 17:48
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I played against this UG morph deck on MTGO last night that seemed really complex and interesting, so I found a rough list for it (version I played against had Caryatids, although I don't know if they're worth running) and it's a ton of fun to play. It's also cheap as poo poo with the one mythic in it not even being $1. And who knows, maybe the next set will bring more morph enablers and it could become a legit archetype. Nobody packs enchantment removal and if you're able to get one Trail of Mystery and one Secret Plans down, every creature you have basically becomes value town. Here's the list. http://deckstats.net/decks/4727/135759-ug-morph/en
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Oct 19, 2014 17:50
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Wurzag posted:As someone who got utterly destroyed playing sultai I'd also be very interested in seeing this deck From what I could tell it was at least 4 Elvish Mystic 4 Caryatid 4 Courser 4 Nyx Weaver 4 Sidisi 4 Downfall 4 Murderous Cut 4 Satyr Wayfinder And at least 2 Whips and 2 Hornet Queens and 1 Soul of Innistrad. The only thing with Delve main deck was Murderous Cut, but there was an Empty the Pits in the sideboard. Sideboard also had 3 Bile Blights, 2 Silence the Believers, and 3 Negates. We'll probably find out the exact list at the end of the weekend. Fish Of Doom fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Oct 19, 2014 |
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Oct 19, 2014 17:50
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Fish Of Doom posted:From what I could tell it was at least Someone has brewed this on my LGS and it seemed awfully lackluster. There has to be some other tech to make this work.
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Oct 19, 2014 17:51
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Toshimo posted:Whatever you are using to make this decklist, please don't. It absolutely trashes the mobile client. That's deckstats.net's bbcode output, and it seems fine on awful for me.
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Oct 19, 2014 17:51
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ShaneB posted:Looks fine on Awful It's the mana icons. For some godawful reason, deckstats is still using .gifs for it so the android awful app does this:  Like, every other deckstats list I've seen has been fine, but they don't do the mana icons.
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Toshimo posted:It's the mana icons. For some godawful reason, deckstats is still using .gifs for it so the android awful app does this: Yeah, I've seen that a lot too, but forgot to mention it.
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