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projecthalaxy posted:So is the Undertaker with his three separate major, protected submission finishes (Hell's Gates, the Triangle Choke, and Taking Care of Business which was his dumb ABA dragon sleeper) have the most submission finishers of anyone? I was thinking about this and as far as I can remember, all of the Submission Guys (Angle, Joe, Flair, Benoit) have just one move they specialize in their whole career (Ankle Lock, RNC, Figure 4, Crossface). Now for Angle you could argue that late in his career they got the grapevine ankle lock over as a different, better technique he had picked up while still sometimes using the standing ankle lock for low-threat situations. But still, that's just two. Benoit would pull out a win with a sharpshooter every now and then.
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projecthalaxy posted:So is the Undertaker with his three separate major, protected submission finishes (Hell's Gates, the Triangle Choke, and Taking Care of Business which was his dumb ABA dragon sleeper) have the most submission finishers of anyone? I was thinking about this and as far as I can remember, all of the Submission Guys (Angle, Joe, Flair, Benoit) have just one move they specialize in their whole career (Ankle Lock, RNC, Figure 4, Crossface). Now for Angle you could argue that late in his career they got the grapevine ankle lock over as a different, better technique he had picked up while still sometimes using the standing ankle lock for low-threat situations. But still, that's just two. Chris Jericho
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Web Jew.0 posted:That's my favorite. It's racist, misogynistic, inappropriate, and makes no loving sense as a wrestling move name. Like Christy Hemme's Flaming Firecrotch Guillotine?
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flatluigi posted:One of the threads in here linked this video recently, which is Steve Austin commenting over his match vs the rock at wrestlemania 17. I found it extremely entertaining and I'd love it if someone could point me towards other similar videos - i.e. wrestlers going over good matches of theirs with a particular spin on actually non-keyfabe performing the match ("here's where I drew the camera away so he could blade safely", "here's me positioning for a clothesline", etc) That video is awesome. WWE needs to pay Austin to just hang out and teach guys how to tell stories in the ring like that.
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projecthalaxy posted:So is the Undertaker with his three separate major, protected submission finishes (Hell's Gates, the Triangle Choke, and Taking Care of Business which was his dumb ABA dragon sleeper) have the most submission finishers of anyone? I was thinking about this and as far as I can remember, all of the Submission Guys (Angle, Joe, Flair, Benoit) have just one move they specialize in their whole career (Ankle Lock, RNC, Figure 4, Crossface). Now for Angle you could argue that late in his career they got the grapevine ankle lock over as a different, better technique he had picked up while still sometimes using the standing ankle lock for low-threat situations. But still, that's just two. actually Angle did the triangle choke for a period of time and that's the one time Taker tapped out. He also pinned Angle at the same time, however, so it was a draw
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ayn rand hand job posted:Chris Jericho I think he said that people actually tap to
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Jericho got Kofi to tap out in a leadup match to Bray Wyatt. And...that was it, no one's tapped to that thing in years.
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DeathChicken posted:Jericho got Kofi to tap out in a leadup match to Bray Wyatt. And...that was it, no one's tapped to that thing in years. Break the walls doowwwwwwnnnnn
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Neodoomium posted:That video is awesome. WWE needs to pay Austin to just hang out and teach guys how to tell stories in the ring like that.
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DeathChicken posted:Jericho got Kofi to tap out in a leadup match to Bray Wyatt. And...that was it, no one's tapped to that thing in years. If it had gone long enough Bray would have tapped in a match eventually and need Harper and Rowan to save him.
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Luigi Thirty posted:I think he said that people actually tap to Jericho knows like 400 versions of the armbar, ok.
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Writer Cath posted:Like Christy Hemme's Flaming Firecrotch Guillotine? Hey! That one's not racist. 
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DeathChicken posted:Jericho got Kofi to tap out in a leadup match to Bray Wyatt. And...that was it, no one's tapped to that thing in years. I think he got Ziggler with it a few returns ago too.
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Writer Cath posted:Like Christy Hemme's Flaming Firecrotch Guillotine? Gaz-L posted:Hey! That one's not racist. Also guillotines are dangerous, unlike happy endings.
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Wasn't the last time he busted out the full knee-on-your-neck, cranked-back Liontamer when he did it on the ramp during his Punk feud? That was pretty cool.
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oatgan posted:actually Angle did the triangle choke for a period of time and that's the one time Taker tapped out. He also pinned Angle at the same time, however, so it was a draw Other way around. Angle was in the Hell's Gate and tapped at 3.1. Incidentally that was actually the first great latter-day Undertaker match and doesn't really get talked about a lot.
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Lesnar has won matches with the bearhug, Brock Lock and Kimera.
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I remember he beat hogan with the bear hug on smacksown.
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ColeM posted:I remember he beat hogan with the bear hug on smacksown. The only time I've ever seen the arm drop 3 times, and it owned. gently caress Hogan.
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I think you'll find that Taker's previous submission hold was actually called "Taker Care of Business", because  DeathChicken posted:Jericho got Kofi to tap out in a leadup match to Bray Wyatt. And...that was it, no one's tapped to that thing in years. They were doing a thing for Jericho's last heel run for a while where nobody would tap to the Walls, but they'd tap to the Liontamer version. AkumaHokoru posted:The Axe Kick to the back of the head was called the ghetto blaster a few times. That was Bad News Brown's enziguri, so yeah, it's had a history of that.
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Nut Bunnies posted:Other way around. Angle was in the Hell's Gate and tapped at 3.1. nope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbs0OsZWEAc&t=66s
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Angle also used to Crossface Chickenwing for a brief period in early 2000. Pre-Ankle Lock of course.
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Yup. But actually you're both right because at No Way Out 2006 Undertaker had Angle in a triangle choke and Kurt turned it into a pin.
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Maybe I'm off my rocker, but didn't they refer to Undertaker's gogoplata as the Death Sentence a few times before they settled on Hell's Gate?
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They may have, and I swear I remember it being called the Devil's Triangle as well. Or maybe that was the triangle choke.
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TL posted:Maybe I'm off my rocker, but didn't they refer to Undertaker's gogoplata as the Death Sentence a few times before they settled on Hell's Gate? It went through a bunch of different names. It was originally the Devil's Triangle, then Devil's Gate, then Hell's Gate. Death Sentence might've been in there for a while too.
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Web Jew.0 posted:Also guillotines are dangerous, unlike happy endings. Also dangerous: Fire, some crotches.
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For a while, Taker's choke was simply "THAT MOVE!"
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oldpainless posted:For a while, Taker's choke was simply "THAT MOVE!" Did it ever get a genuine name? Or was it just changed a dozen times?
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Flameingblack posted:How long was Daniel Bryan's labeled "That's the move that beat John Cena!" what does WWE 2k14 call the move because I think I've heard commentary refer to it as "the flying goat" more than anything else
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oatgan posted:what does WWE 2k14 call the move because I think I've heard commentary refer to it as "the flying goat" more than anything else That's his suicide dive. I believe they've settled on either "The Knee that Beat <the last guy it beat>!!" (it was referred to as The Knee That Beat Triple H at Wrestlemania) or "The Flying Knee".
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It's really OK if they keep it at "the flying knee" because it looks like death and they try too hard on names anymore.
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FWIW, Daniel Bryan's Legendary card on WWE Supercard says it's called the "Knee Plus" but that's probably just someone at 2K just funnin' around.
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Demp posted:FWIW, Daniel Bryan's Legendary card on WWE Supercard says it's called the "Knee Plus" but that's probably just someone at 2K just funnin' around.
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epitasis posted:gonna need some evidence of that
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