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Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Drifter posted:

I was expecting at best to have about four in game and the rest would be separate DLC purchases.

Fingers crossed for a day one Squig mount mod.

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Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Jimbot posted:

Oh and over twitter I asked @dragonage why the women walk like fashion models and the men like professional soldiers. And why the women don't walk like the men. I'll post a response, if I get one.

hashtag biowalk

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Afraid of Audio posted:

It looks excellent, Bioware is back baby!

That remains to be seen. Bioware's never had a problem making their games look good before release.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Geostomp posted:

So far, but we're all a little wary by this point. Bioware's burned us before.



I'm sure as hell not buying anything until I hear it's great. That said, I would love to be wrong like with mordor.

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe

Drifter posted:

Can somebody tweet Bioware or whatever and ask them what the heck kind of posable mannequin they were masturbating to when they made those walk/run animations?

I just want to know why they're so bad.

Haha wow I thought people were exaggerating but after watching that twitch stream, holy poo poo! Those are loving godawful, not even just the walk, the whole thing model looks like it was knocked together for a porno game. The part where they're standing next to Cassandra who seems to be animated in the exact same way was pretty amusing too, shades of DA2.

comatose
Nov 23, 2005

Lipstick Apathy

Afraid of Audio posted:

It looks excellent, Bioware is back baby!

Alternatively:

It looks poo poo, Bioware haven't changed!

Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx
Bioware is set to take the world by storm, mark my words.

comatose
Nov 23, 2005

Lipstick Apathy

Afraid of Audio posted:

Bioware is set to take the world by storm, mark my words.

I'm wiggling my hips in anticipation of RPG of the Decade Part 2.

Mymla
Aug 12, 2010
#walkgate

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Is waiting for a mod that swaps the female walk animation for the male version plausible with this game engine?

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


Cythereal posted:

Is waiting for a mod that swaps the female walk animation for the male version plausible with this game engine?

From what I've heard about Frostbite, no, it's not mod-friendly in the least. You'll be stuck with the catwalk animation.

Robzilla
Jul 28, 2003

READ IT AND WEEP JEWBOY!
Fun Shoe
Game Playing Talk:
I've been making my through a slow replay of DAO, I finished DAO a couple of days ago and just finished Awakening today. Gonna do Witch Hunt and then move to DA2. (God help me)
If I time it right, I'll finish DA2 by the 18th, ot I might go bang my head against a wall for five weeks, haven't decided yet.

Decus
Feb 24, 2013

Cythereal posted:

Is waiting for a mod that swaps the female walk animation for the male version plausible with this game engine?

No, textures and animations are the least likely to be modded/moddable things. Frostbite is all about high fidelity at high speeds, so things like that are cleverly compressed and managed by the engine. In order to support adding your own textures or animation in after the fact, a portion of the engine would need to be 'open' and EA/DICE don't want that yet.

edit: Please complain to bioware for real if you want change here as you will not be getting it through mods this time around

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Decus posted:

edit: Please complain to bioware for real if you want change here.

Bioware, change their habit of occasionally being very weird and creepy about women? Sisyphus isn't that stupid.

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich
I'm really hoping down the line they'll get some mod tools out. If not, I hope someone in the community can figure it out.

Bored
Jul 26, 2007

Dude, ix-nay on the oice-vay.

drat. I was hoping we'd get to actually play a game of Ferelden Chess.

Penakoto
Aug 21, 2013

I thought they said there'd be no mod support, unlike the previous games.

EDIT: Yeah, doing a quick search, no toolset release planned + frostbite engine being hard or impossible to mod, seems to be the current case.

Penakoto fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Oct 21, 2014

Robzilla
Jul 28, 2003

READ IT AND WEEP JEWBOY!
Fun Shoe

Penakoto posted:

I thought they said there'd be no mod support, unlike the previous games.

EDIT: Yeah, doing a quick search, no toolset release planned + frostbite engine being hard or impossible to mod, seems to be the current case.

Mods?! Where we're playing, we don't need...mods.

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich

Penakoto posted:

I thought they said there'd be no mod support, unlike the previous games.

EDIT: Yeah, doing a quick search, no toolset release planned + frostbite engine being hard or impossible to mod, seems to be the current case.

"Planned" is the key word. You never really know if that means never or months down the line.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Cythereal posted:

That remains to be seen. Bioware's never had a problem making their games look good before release.

Someone forgot about poo poo Mountain.

Decus
Feb 24, 2013

Cythereal posted:

Bioware, change their habit of occasionally being very weird and creepy about women? Sisyphus isn't that stupid.

Hey, it's still the path of least resistance as on the other hand you're up against EA/DICE and/or hoping for the community to somehow figure out what it has been unable to do over the last year of trying/giving up on trying with frostbite 3.

Battlefield 4 players are to the point where they've settled for 'pretending' the textures are different to match whatever their custom server rules are. It's the best they can do.

A. Beaverhausen posted:

"Planned" is the key word. You never really know if that means never or months down the line.

Whichever bioware dev (Laidlaw?) chimed in on not having anything 'planned' was being a weasel by not explaining the actual situation, which is to say they were never in a position to plan anything anyway. This isn't like DA:O or DA2, which used bioware engines they could choose to release a kit for themselves. DA:I uses an EA/DICE (EA) owned engine that DICE (EA) has specifically said they will not be opening up with a toolkit.

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe

A. Beaverhausen posted:

"Planned" is the key word. You never really know if that means never or months down the line.

It is not going to happen, they're using Frostbite and the creators (Dice) won't even ship an SDK for their flagship title Battlefield anymore. Ignore the PR speak and just forget about it, EA doesn't want anyone making mods for their games, they want people buying DLC they create. I think it's a shame though, lots of great mods for the first few games.

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich

The Gunslinger posted:

It is not going to happen, they're using Frostbite and the creators (Dice) won't even ship an SDK for their flagship title Battlefield anymore. Ignore the PR speak and just forget about it, EA doesn't want anyone making mods for their games, they want people buying DLC they create. I think it's a shame though, lots of great mods for the first few games.

Ok, the sitch is bleak, but nothings impossible to break and the people trying to with battlefield vs inquisition aren't necessarily the same people.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Yeah it's pretty crap. Hell, Bethesda has managed enormous success thanks in no small part to the fact that you can do whatever the poo poo you want to their games (on PC) and they give out the tools for free. Literally anybody who wants them can have them.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

A. Beaverhausen posted:

Ok, the sitch is bleak, but nothings impossible to break and the people trying to with battlefield vs inquisition aren't necessarily the same people.

The people who would mod for inquisition don't have enough hacking chops. Just being able to animate a my little pony mount or retexture a chair into a dildo throne are not skills that translate into breaking DICE's engine.

Penakoto
Aug 21, 2013

A. Beaverhausen posted:

"Planned" is the key word. You never really know if that means never or months down the line.

I would be surprised if they didn't have all the DLC and even a few ideas for the sequel at this point.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Penakoto posted:

I would be surprised if they didn't have all the DLC and even a few ideas for the sequel at this point.

He was referring to mod support.

But yeah, a company can't survive if they're not constantly planning and working on followup materials, at least one that large. Those writers and designers and whatnot have to be doing something while the programmers and animators and junk get their crack at the game.

Penakoto
Aug 21, 2013

Drifter posted:

He was referring to mod support.

I know, I'm saying I doubt if something isn't planned at this point, it probably isn't happening.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
Was there cat support for the mounts? Will I get a tiger or something furry with whiskers, claws, and a tail?

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich
Holy poo poo riding a tiger would be so metal.

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

Doesn't Tevinter have giant scorpion mounts?

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


SgtSteel91 posted:

Doesn't Tevinter have giant scorpion mounts?

I hope so, that would be badass. A Qunari mage with his mouth sewn shut and giant, gold-ring-pierced horns adorning his mutilated head, hurling lightning bolts and death clouds from the back of something out of Clash of the Titans is so loving metal.

Leelee
Jul 31, 2012

Syntax Error

SgtSteel91 posted:

Doesn't Tevinter have giant scorpion mounts?

you have to max out your klaxxi rep for one.

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich
Woot, closed beta invite!

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Leelee posted:

you have to max out your klaxxi rep for one.

By buying EA bux. 650 bux, you can only buy it in 500 bux increments.

No.44
Dec 14, 2012


Vivienne: Kirkwall is a lovecratian shithole and the Circle are a bunch of moody teenagers proving all the mage-racists right.

Character of the Year

Opposing Farce
Apr 1, 2010

Ever since our drop-off service, I never read a book.
There's always something else around, plus I owe the library nineteen bucks.

Shugojin posted:

Yeah it's pretty crap. Hell, Bethesda has managed enormous success thanks in no small part to the fact that you can do whatever the poo poo you want to their games (on PC) and they give out the tools for free. Literally anybody who wants them can have them.

It may be the case that Bethesda got where they are because of the modding tools in their older games, but considering the success TES and Fallout have had on the consoles I don't think it's a driving factor anymore financially speaking.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.

Shugojin posted:

Yeah it's pretty crap. Hell, Bethesda has managed enormous success thanks in no small part to the fact that you can do whatever the poo poo you want to their games (on PC) and they give out the tools for free. Literally anybody who wants them can have them.

Yeah, I don't get how the entire rest of the industry doesn't immediately see what a tremendous value add a fully featured mod kit would be for basically every open world game and follow suit. I get that it's time consuming and expensive, but in return you get to say that your game isn't just a game anymore, but a fully realized sandbox universe you can do anything in and completely make your own. You know, that one thing that ultimately separates video games from every other entertainment medium.

I mean I personally wouldn't even think twice about Elder Scrolls games if you couldn't mod them to the brim and back.

Opposing Farce posted:

It may be the case that Bethesda got where they are because of the modding tools in their older games, but considering the success TES and Fallout have had on the consoles I don't think it's a driving factor anymore financially speaking.

It's probably impossible to say for sure, but how many people who bought Skyrim for the PC do you really think had absolutely zero interest in installing mods? I also think that people associate Elder Scrolls and modding extremely closely. I cannot imagine the reaction Bethesda would get from the PC crowd if they were to announce that TES 6 will not include modding capabilities.

GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Oct 21, 2014

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

GreatGreen posted:

Yeah, I don't get how the entire rest of the industry doesn't immediately see what a tremendous value add a fully featured mod kit would be for basically every open world game and follow suit. I get that it's time consuming and expensive, but in return you get to say that your game isn't just a game anymore, but a fully realized sandbox universe you can do anything in and completely make your own. You know, that one thing that ultimately separates video games from every other entertainment medium.

I can't help but think that there's a growing strain of game developer that's absolutely horrified at this concept, of players taking their vision and all their hard work and turning it into whatever the players please - which we all know drat well includes porn, ponies, pedophilia, and often all of the above at the same time.

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Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Cythereal posted:

I can't help but think that there's a growing strain of game developer that's absolutely horrified at this concept, of players taking their vision and all their hard work and turning it into whatever the players please - which we all know drat well includes porn, ponies, pedophilia, and often all of the above at the same time.

Or worse. Warning: that video isn't for the feint of heart and should be view by nobody.

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