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I remember hearing somewhere that the studio handed out pamphlets before the early screenings that explained the setting and the background of Dune because they were so worried that people would get confused by it all, which is even worse than a prologue.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I remember hearing somewhere that the studio handed out pamphlets before the early screenings that explained the setting and the background of Dune because they were so worried that people would get confused by it all, which is even worse than a prologue. Or how about the ending of the movie that goes against some very important parts about the mythology of Dune?
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Oct 16, 2014 18:57
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I remember hearing somewhere that the studio handed out pamphlets before the early screenings that explained the setting and the background of Dune because they were so worried that people would get confused by it all, which is even worse than a prologue. At least Star Wars' pamphlet was in the movie.
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Oct 16, 2014 20:34
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I remember hearing somewhere that the studio handed out pamphlets before the early screenings that explained the setting and the background of Dune because they were so worried that people would get confused by it all, which is even worse than a prologue. My local theater handed out a glossary of terms used in the movie. Unfortunately, it was a b&w copy of a color original and it was hard enough to read in the light much less a dark theater.
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Oct 16, 2014 22:46
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Not the same thing, but Touch of Evil is infinitely better with the opening scene without the credits and music score.
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Oct 16, 2014 23:14
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Mister Kingdom posted:My local theater handed out a glossary of terms used in the movie. Unfortunately, it was a b&w copy of a color original and it was hard enough to read in the light much less a dark theater. To be fair, I'm pretty sure I was given something similar to that when I saw waynes world in the cinema.
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Oct 17, 2014 00:09
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The Doom movie originally took place on a planet called Olduvai instead of Mars like in the games, but after backlash from the fans of the games they added opening narration whose only purpose was to pacify them by explaining that Olduvai was just the name of the research facility and the planet was Mars. Even though nobody actually calls it Mars outside of that opening narration and it has zero actual effect on the movie.
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Oct 17, 2014 00:29
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bobkatt013 posted:Or how about the ending of the movie that goes against some very important parts about the mythology of Dune? Eh, that's a "they changed things from the book" problem, not an actual cinematic problem.
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Oct 17, 2014 01:06
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Despite being a mess of a movie, I absolutely love Dune. Really nailed the atmosphere and the performances are top-notch.
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Oct 17, 2014 03:14
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And what a pug!
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Maxwell Lord posted:Eh, that's a "they changed things from the book" problem, not an actual cinematic problem. Then all the whispering that was done to explain character motivations. It was all telling not showing. That movie had so many problems, yet I will still watch it since its in interesting experiment in adaptations and its Lynch.
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Oct 17, 2014 06:09
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bobkatt013 posted:Then all the whispering that was done to explain character motivations. It was all telling not showing. That movie had so many problems, yet I will still watch it since its in interesting experiment in adaptations and its Lynch. Lynch and Giger. Awful app almost had me saying 'lunch and guger.' Probably should have gone with that.
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Oct 17, 2014 06:27
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So I've been rewatching the Alien series and I watched Alien3 (Directors cut) last night. Is there a book or something that goes over everything that was hosed with and what Fincher wanted that he wasn't able to get? Also, what was with Bishop II? He's a robot, right? I mean, he has red blood, but his hosed up ear leads me to believe he was just a robot they sent to try to convince Ripley to give up her alien baby.
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Oct 17, 2014 15:55
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bobkatt013 posted:Then all the whispering that was done to explain character motivations. It was all telling not showing. That movie had so many problems, yet I will still watch it since its in interesting experiment in adaptations and its Lynch. "He knows the weirding way. Could he be the one? .......why am I whispering in my own head?"
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Oct 17, 2014 16:06
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Biff Rockgroin posted:So I've been rewatching the Alien series and I watched Alien3 (Directors cut) last night. The documentary about the movie is pretty good, and goes into detail. It's not a Director's Cut though, it's a cut assembled from the workprint. The idea was to make it closer to what Fincher wanted, but I believe he's said that even that is a fallacy because so much changed from start to finish that it still doesn't really resemble what he had in mind. He doesn't have a lot more to say on the subject except that it taught him to take the risks he wanted because whatever happens, as a Director you're always going to be the person who gets the blame. I don't think he's ever actually seen the movie.
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Oct 17, 2014 16:29
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I'm not quite sure where to ask this, but this seemed like the thread to try. Can public domain films be rebroadcast legally on something like public access tv or a PEG tv station?
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Oct 17, 2014 18:29
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Annoying Reveler posted:I'm not quite sure where to ask this, but this seemed like the thread to try. Can public domain films be rebroadcast legally on something like public access tv or a PEG tv station? Depends if they are public domain in the true sense (out of copyright) or licensed for free public use, in which case the license might prohibit certain uses like broadcast.
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Oct 17, 2014 19:19
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Annoying Reveler posted:I'm not quite sure where to ask this, but this seemed like the thread to try. Can public domain films be rebroadcast legally on something like public access tv or a PEG tv station? Some you can, but you gotta check the copyright on them and verify the rights with the station. There's a public access show in my area that airs nothing but old edutainment shorts from the 40s and 50s.
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Oct 17, 2014 19:39
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Ahhhh, thanks! Our PEG station wants to run Night of the Living Dead on Halloween, but I haven't been able to find any clear guidelines that say if we can or can't.
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Oct 17, 2014 19:50
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Biff Rockgroin posted:Also, what was with Bishop II? He's a robot, right? I mean, he has red blood, but his hosed up ear leads me to believe he was just a robot they sent to try to convince Ripley to give up her alien baby.
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Oct 17, 2014 21:18
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Even though nobody actually calls it Mars outside of that opening narration and it has zero actual effect on the movie. In fairness, does being on Mars have any actual effect on the game?
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Oct 21, 2014 23:53
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xcore posted:In fairness, does being on Mars have any actual effect on the game? So what your saying is that a Space Invaders movie could take place under water instead of in space because being in space has no effect on the game? edit: Just remembered that neither Tomb Raider movie had anything to do with tombs...
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Oct 22, 2014 00:33
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Snak posted:So what your saying is that a Space Invaders movie could take place under water instead of in space because being in space has no effect on the game? Space Invaders takes place in space? I assumed that because there were bases you could hide under and that since it was 2D, it was taking place on the surface on a planet.
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Hey I posted a few months / a year back in this thread about some movies I've watched. I started to deconstruct books and thinking about media more critically, and I'd like to give them a second chance. Especially Aliens, because I recently found out I watched a completely different movie apparently. What are the good versions of the Alien films, and which ones of them are worth watching?
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Oct 22, 2014 03:13
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How did you accidentally watch a completely different movie
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Oct 22, 2014 03:16
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Hat Thoughts posted:How did you accidentally watch a completely different movie I was 12.
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Turtlicious posted:Hey I posted a few months / a year back in this thread about some movies I've watched. I started to deconstruct books and thinking about media more critically, and I'd like to give them a second chance. Especially Aliens, because I recently found out I watched a completely different movie apparently. Alien : Just watch theatrical Aliens: Just watch theatrical Alien 3: Don't watch Alien 4: Don't watch
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Turtlicious posted:Hey I posted a few months / a year back in this thread about some movies I've watched. I started to deconstruct books and thinking about media more critically, and I'd like to give them a second chance. Especially Aliens, because I recently found out I watched a completely different movie apparently. For Alien and Aliens, watch the theatrical cuts. Don't watch any version of Alien 3 or Alien: Resurrection, because they aren't very good (Alien 3 is okay, but the first 2 are some of the best movies ever made, so it really pales in comparison). Prometheus is dope as hell too. e:f;b
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Am I wrong for liking the directors cut of Aliens? I liked how it showed Ripley's loss of her daughter and taking Newt on as a surrogate. edit: I liked the 4th one too, not because of the story, but because the casting was awesome. Skunkduster fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Oct 22, 2014 |
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Oct 22, 2014 04:09
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Turtlicious posted:I was 12. What movie did you watch instead?
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SkunkDuster posted:Am I wrong for liking the directors cut of Aliens? I liked how it showed Ripley's loss of her daughter and taking Newt on as a surrogate. It's worth watching on a second view, but it does mess with the pacing on a first watch.
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Oct 22, 2014 04:37
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Hat Thoughts posted:What movie did you watch instead? An episode of Veggie Tales I think.
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SkunkDuster posted:Am I wrong for liking the directors cut of Aliens? I liked how it showed Ripley's loss of her daughter and taking Newt on as a surrogate. I had my wife watch the extended cut of Aliens as her first viewing of the film. In retrospect, I think this was a mistake. Most of the added scenes take place early on and it really takes some dedication to sit through the extra setup to get to what many think of as the meat of the story. The extended cut is a good addition if you are already a fan of Aliens but the theatrical cut works out a bit smoother.
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Oct 22, 2014 06:48
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Turtlicious posted:An episode of Veggie Tales I think. I am so glad I followed this line of questioning
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SkunkDuster posted:Am I wrong for liking the directors cut of Aliens? I liked how it showed Ripley's loss of her daughter and taking Newt on as a surrogate. The casting was great for Alien 4, the problem was the dialogue, story, plot and basic blocking.
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SkunkDuster posted:Am I wrong for liking the directors cut of Aliens? I liked how it showed Ripley's loss of her daughter and taking Newt on as a surrogate. I'm not going to say that you're wrong, but that's why I really disliked the directors cut. In the cinematic cut, Ripley and the Marines going after and taking care of Newt was the human thing to do, contrasted with the corporate thing to do personified by Burke. Ripley didn't need the motivation of a dead child. It was patronising and cheap.
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Oct 22, 2014 14:18
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Hat Thoughts posted:I am so glad I followed this line of questioning It definitely made my morning.
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Here's a question that's been bugging me ever since I saw Star Trek Into Darkness: What's the correct pronunciation of Orci?
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Cavenagh posted:I'm not going to say that you're wrong, but that's why I really disliked the directors cut. In the cinematic cut, Ripley and the Marines going after and taking care of Newt was the human thing to do, contrasted with the corporate thing to do personified by Burke. Ripley didn't need the motivation of a dead child. It was patronising and cheap. I also saw it as showing how disconnected she is with society in general. That she has lost not only her job, but also connection with people in general.
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bobkatt013 posted:I also saw it as showing how disconnected she is with society in general. That she has lost not only her job, but also connection with people in general. It also makes the showdown with the queen more explicitly between two mothers.
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