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FactsAreUseless posted:The BL2 cast are a collection of amoral mercenaries who got caught up in something bigger than themselves and wanted to avenge a betrayal an attempt on their own lives. The BL1 cast are a collection of amoral mercenaries who got caught up in something bigger than themselves and (in BL2) wanted to avenge a betrayal and an attempt on their own lives.
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CJacobs posted:A mad race for incredibly disappointing wet loot farts that the gods of their universe somehow have decided qualify as "explosions".
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Oct 23, 2014 03:31
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CJacobs posted:A mad race for incredibly disappointing wet loot farts that the gods of their universe somehow have decided qualify as "explosions". The final bosses in Borderlands 2 and this have great loot-splosions. As does Iwajira.
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Oct 23, 2014 03:34
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I never got a single orange in Borderlands that was worth equipping. Not one. Every single one was outclassed by all four weapons I had equipped, including the greens. And by "every single one" I mean all three.
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Oct 23, 2014 03:36
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WickedHate posted:Do you mean Ellie? I forgot about the Zaffords. No I mean the one that kills herself after we bring her Scooter's poem.
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Oct 23, 2014 03:39
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Genocyber posted:The final bosses in Borderlands 2 and this have great loot-splosions. As does Iwajira. Pretty sure he was talking about the final reward for the Torgue DLC, which I have to agree was pretty disappointing. It'd be nice if more bosses were like the end-of-act bosses in Diablo 3, where you would pretty much be guaranteed a legendary or two and a ton of rares.
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Oct 23, 2014 03:41
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WickedHate posted:When have Roland or Lilith killed completely innocent people, though? That's the big issue here. It doesn't make their gently caress up any less of a gently caress up, but they had justified reasoning Lilith has no problem trying to blow up the pre-sequel vault hunters alongside Jack, and ordering Athena's execution despite the pleas of Brick/Mordecai
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Oct 23, 2014 03:50
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Vargs posted:Lilith has no problem trying to blow up the pre-sequel vault hunters alongside Jack, and ordering Athena's execution despite the pleas of Brick/Mordecai I wouldn't really call any of them innocent, except Athena. That the pre-sequel vault hunters were Jack's minions anyway, so taking them out with him isn't that big of a stretch. and the execution thing was extreme emotional duress, which ended up not happening anyway.
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Oct 23, 2014 04:17
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There's a lot of evidence for my "Lilith is more autistic than Tannis" theory: look at how she's unable to read Roland in the ECHO recordings in a BL2 sidequest, or how she completely doesn't understand Tina in the Tiny Tina DLC.
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Oct 23, 2014 04:35
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i got an incredible oz kit called arctic oxidizer with the red text "kill it with fire" Its amazing because it adds freeze to all my guns and it adds +60% ignite chance. At least i think it causes my weapons to freeze. im playing nisha and none of my weapons have that element Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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Oct 23, 2014 04:40
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Do you have the talent that adds a massive burn dot on a critical hit? That one might add the burning thing.
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Oct 23, 2014 04:48
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Fauxtool posted:i got an incredible oz kit called arctic oxidizer with the red text "kill it with fire" I don't think it should be adding freeze to your weapons... The "kill it with fire" text makes explosions happen whenever you light someone on fire, and the usual Oxidizer stats are +regen in vacuum, and +ignite chance & damage. The Arctic one should just be doing arctic damage on buttslams. WickedHate posted:I wouldn't really call any of them innocent, except Athena. That the pre-sequel vault hunters were Jack's minions anyway, so taking them out with him isn't that big of a stretch. and the execution thing was extreme emotional duress, which ended up not happening anyway. They are as innocent as any other Vault Hunter at that point. They have been doing the same sorts of quests, and haven't killed anyone 'innocent'.
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Oct 23, 2014 05:15
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BombiTheZombie posted:Do you have the talent that adds a massive burn dot on a critical hit? That one might add the burning thing. the + ignite chance is clearly spelled out on the oz kit and i have the talent. they definitely stack, but im trying to figure out where the freeze is coming from. I think ill chalk it up to being a bug
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Oct 23, 2014 05:16
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I like how Krieg ends up being the least evil vault hunter in the franchise 
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Oct 23, 2014 05:24
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Dr.Smasher posted:So... the fight with Zorpedon. Zarpedon. whatever. After you blow up her armored suit. Here's what I did: After killing the suit and losing all my cash from respawning to her bullshit OHKO attack wave, I went back to the lunar launch module map (the one right before her arena where the fast travel station is.) I was level 22 at the time so I spent a few hours grinding cash and XP till level 24. I stopped when I found a good purple Torgue Shotgun that can one-shot almost everything at close range. Surprisingly, I took her down in 3 rounds. There are 6 chests to farm on this map. First go to the big room opposite Jack's cabin and take the stairs either left or right. Head down into the purple levels and back to where you knocked out the power cells for the mission to lower the shield. One one side, there is a storage room with a Hyperion gun closet chest in the purple room before the coolant corridor. In each coolant corridor there are 2 Dahl chests: 1 small and 1 large. Go all the way up and go out side. You should be in the outdoor area where the gate to the Zarpedon arena is. Go down the stairs and you will find another Hyperion gun closet chest and an ammo and health vendor to sell off the crap. If you run out of room, just remember to go right after coming back out to go back into the complex and go to the other side.
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Oct 23, 2014 05:26
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mastersord posted:Here's what I did: This is the only bit that probably mattered. I'm getting bored of people saying "X fight is too hard!" and then revealing they are 2 or 3 levels under the boss. The scaling isn't as severe as BL2 but you still really need to be no more than a level below boss fights or you'll be badly outclassed. The level scaling of the main quest seems to take into account you hoovering most if not all of the side quests up. Some side quests give ludicrous XP too. For instance that race quest in triton flats. If you complete it in TVHM it'll give you 10k XP, but if you beat it first time and keep the optional objective checked you get 30k XP. Optional objectives do sometimes affect quest rewards now, heads up. That race quest is a dick though because the route markers are terrible and you'll get lost first time.
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Oct 23, 2014 07:30
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Are the weapon slot upgrades missable in this one or something? I'm apparently halfway through the story (getting the robot AI) and I've still only got two weapon slots.  EDIT: Apparently they just give them out way later for some stupid reason! I'm getting really really tired of having to open my inventory in the middle of a fight to switch elemental damage.
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Oct 23, 2014 07:36
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Sindai posted:Are the weapon slot upgrades missable in this one or something? I'm apparently halfway through the story (getting the robot AI) and I've still only got two weapon slots. they are coming up soon. both are from main quest stuff. just save edit if its really bothering out
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Oct 23, 2014 07:37
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I beat the raid boss at 4 levels beneath their level without going down a single time so v v
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Oct 23, 2014 07:37
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CJacobs posted:I beat the raid boss at 4 levels beneath their level without going down a single time so v To be fair, the raid boss is pretty forgiving. Plenty of adds to resurrect from and it's attacks are all very dodgeable.
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Oct 23, 2014 07:42
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Have anyone here tried to run the game in Nvidia surround?. Is it hard to drive/looks good with the menus?
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Oct 23, 2014 10:10
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Is it me or is the music in this game completely negligible? Like, I cannot think of a single piece of music in this entire game that stands out to me or that I know the melody of. edit: I take it back, I know the dubstep/dance music that the mini claptrap does by heart because I have heard it hundreds of times in the past 20 hours. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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Oct 23, 2014 11:28
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CJacobs posted:Is it me or is the music in this game completely negligible? Like, I cannot think of a single piece of music in this entire game that stands out to me or that I know the melody of. I like the music in the laser part of helios and the one in tychos ribs.
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Oct 23, 2014 11:33
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In other news, holy poo poo the Tannis riding a fish easter egg is back again and it's even activated the same way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ahx2gy_Kdw At least some things never change.
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Oct 23, 2014 11:41
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CJacobs posted:Is it me or is the music in this game completely negligible? Like, I cannot think of a single piece of music in this entire game that stands out to me or that I know the melody of. A lot of the moon ambient music reminded me oddly of Star Control 2.
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Oct 23, 2014 12:11
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xiw posted:Pretty sure Zarpedon was just heavily warped by the Eridian vault - similar to all the lost legion Ascended dudes you meet in the last area. She had the same visual eye effect that Jack does while using the Eridian throne just before being facepunched. Lilith, Maya, Angel, the Atlas woman from BL1 are 4. I think Jack says something about knowing 3-4 of the 6 sirens in BL2.
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CJacobs posted:Is it me or is the music in this game completely negligible? Like, I cannot think of a single piece of music in this entire game that stands out to me or that I know the melody of. The only one that stood out to me was the music from the stalker habitat on Helios. It's probably the biggest step down from BL2.
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Dyz posted:Lilith, Maya, Angel, the Atlas woman from BL1 are 4. Commendant Steele is never confirmed to be a siren and she's dead anyway so it doesn't matter. From last page. CJacobs posted:Speaking of things that happened before the sequel existed, it will always bother me that now instead of Angel lying to the vault hunters about the vault in BL1 to save the universe (revealed at the end of BL1), she lied about the vault so that Jack could come into power (revealed in the middle of BL2).
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AirRaid posted:This is the only bit that probably mattered. Being 2 levels under the boss is what the game expects; pretty much every boss is 2 levels above the recommended level of the quest itself. Also doesn't matter to Nisha I'll say; I was ~5 levels under Zarpdeon and I wrecked her. Nisha OP as gently caress quote:The level scaling of the main quest seems to take into account you hoovering most if not all of the side quests up. Some side quests give ludicrous XP too. For instance that race quest in triton flats. If you complete it in TVHM it'll give you 10k XP, but if you beat it first time and keep the optional objective checked you get 30k XP. Optional objectives do sometimes affect quest rewards now, heads up. This is one thing about the game I really like. Much better than BL2 where even doing a few sidequests would make you massively overleveled for the story content. quote:That race quest is a dick though because the route markers are terrible and you'll get lost first time.
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Alteisen posted:The funny thing about this is they could have easily set it up within the game world. In Borderlands 2, there's cut dialogue from Angel, explaining that she's hacked the New-U machines so they'll respawn you and that Jack can't shut you out. Also, originally the New-U dialogue was going to consist of taunts from Jack himself, but it was changed over to the the generic female Hyperion announcer instead. Of interest to Wilhelm players is also the cut dialogue that Wilhelm was poisoned by Jack before the fight in Borderlands 2, to ensure the vault hunters steal the power core. I always found it disappointing that he was built up as a boss that could take on the original vault hunters at their prime and turns out to be an easily beaten chump, myself. Skandranon posted:It wasn't exactly no reason, it was just a poor reason. I also don't buy Lilith's 'horrified' reaction, considering everything they've done and for what reasons (money/loot). And they could have just punched him to death while they were alone in his office. Not really, since they needed Jack's help to shut down the cannon. Once the cannon and Zarpedon were dealt with, then they could take care of Jack. Zarpedon was the more immediate threat to deal with. Granted, she probably had smarter opportunities to take care of Jack, but there you have it.
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FactsAreUseless posted:The BL2 cast are a collection of amoral mercenaries who got caught up in something bigger than themselves and wanted to avenge a betrayal an attempt on their own lives. The BL1 cast are a collection of amoral mercenaries who got caught up in something bigger than themselves and (in BL2) wanted to avenge a betrayal and an attempt on their own lives. It kinda sounds like you're taking this out of context, the BL games have their own flavor to them and "killing = fun" is a big part of that. The protagonists are always on the more "decent" side of the wheel though, even if you look at Brick's story in BL2 where he's genuinely the leader of a group that makes new members kill existing ones (again this falls in the context of BL though since they needed to make a mission to create context for metting Brick and since all BL missions involve killing things that's what they did) and is generally a blood thirsty maniac he's still seen as that "friendly Hulk like guy who just loses control but is on the right side". That said you can assert that some characters are "morally" better than others, for example Maya is a "better" person compared to say Zero since she was innocent to begin with (i.e. she was manipulated by a monastic order to scare the population of a planet and when she discovers this she kills the main perpetrator and escapes to find out more about sirens) compared to someone who kills people looking for a challenge. Or Salvador being the killing maniac in a similar fashion to Brick but who generally kills when threatened (i.e. killing the people who tried to hurt his grandmother, killing Hyperion guys who attacked his village DESPITE his village wanting to execute Salvador, etc) compared to Axton who was just a military guy obsessed with glory and who ignored the costs of his decisions. It's all flavor though, BL games are p much hacknslash with guns so as killing is basically the only thing you do throughout the whole game it's bound for stuff to be built around it. FactsAreUseless posted:There's a lot of evidence for my "Lilith is more autistic than Tannis" theory: look at how she's unable to read Roland in the ECHO recordings in a BL2 sidequest, or how she completely doesn't understand Tina in the Tiny Tina DLC. They made her more emotionally retarded on purpose to make the whole Lilith-Roland romance thing more amusing, again that was just a flavor thing. Sure Lilith cared generally less about life than Roland (see how excited she was the first time she melted someone) but that didn't prevent her from making you stop that cult that was about to kill innocent people in her sake did it D: Idk it seems kinda dumb to talk about story-line poo poo with BL games because that's not what they're about and everything is again done in the devs' dark'ish humour since the game is about killing poo poo non-stop and you don't want to read TOO much into it. I mean i genuinely enjoyed some of the plot quirks and how well Jack and the poo poo he did was done in BL2 and a few other things but it's not like story and character development are BL's strong points. uaciaut fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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There's a 20 page thread on exactly the stuff you guys are talking about on the Borderlands forum. The posts aren't as bad as the usual game forum affair (at least they're only as bad as anything anyone is posting here).
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Supradog posted:Have anyone here tried to run the game in Nvidia surround?. Is it hard to drive/looks good with the menus? Some of the main menus don't work properly (the Borderlands logo menu screen before the main menu too) such as the Shift rewards screen. The game itself is absolutely fine at 5760x1080 though.
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Pi Mu Rho posted:Some of the main menus don't work properly (the Borderlands logo menu screen before the main menu too) such as the Shift rewards screen. The game itself is absolutely fine at 5760x1080 though. I can't wait to see someone try to run it at 5120x2880 on the new iMac. Even in bootcamp that's going to be a mess.
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CJacobs posted:In other news, holy poo poo the Tannis riding a fish easter egg is back again and it's even activated the same way I watched a Twitch stream a couple days back where a fellow spotted the area and just knew what was there, but he wasn't able to figure out the right combination to trigger it. If I happen into his stream again, I'll tell him the correct order.
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Since people here are spergin' out over canon minutiae, I guess it bears mentioning that Gearbox released an official timeline that, in classic Gearbox fashion, is vague and poorly formatted. Of note is this entry: quote:Claptrap helps the vault hunters avoid death at the hands of Jack, while Wilhelm realizes he may have gone too far in turning himself into a cyborg. Which kinda furthers my suspicions that Krieg is either Wilhelm, or at least has his conscience.
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Father Wendigo posted:Which kinda furthers my suspicions that Krieg is either Wilhelm, or at least has his conscience. Krieg is Tina's father. That was probably just a joke about how unrecognizable Wilhelm is between games.
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Krieg being Wilhelm doesn't make any sense, and Krieg being Tina's father was never officially confirmed by Gearbox. The credits at the end of TPS show Wilhelm going full bald-guy cyborg and fighting alongside Jack looking just like he did in BL2.
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Father Wendigo posted:- which is plotted as having happened around the time Roland was killed. Sounds more like a retcon to have him show up in future games.
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Father Wendigo posted:Since people here are spergin' out over canon minutiae, I guess it bears mentioning that Gearbox released an official timeline that, in classic Gearbox fashion, is vague and poorly formatted. Wow, yeah, that's really badly done. It doesn't explain much of anything, just throws out random factoids, particularly if they're about Claptrap or Jack. Is that the true struggle for Pandora? Claptrap vs. Jack? 
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