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The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

theadder posted:

how much privacy robbery does google do with chrome

all of it

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Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
i just loaded up gmail in firefox and ie and Inbox worked fine in both

did the more browers really come so soon?

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

Sham bam bamina! posted:

i just loaded up gmail in firefox and ie and Inbox worked fine in both

did the more browers really come so soon?

they figured out how to steal all your data while doing no evil to google with alternate browsers so now you're enabled fast as gently caress

theadder
Dec 30, 2011



does it irl send a lot of stuff back to google or is it more collaborating against u??

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


the big one would be everything entered into the address bar because of auto suggestions being turned on by default. much more if you log in to google to sync your bookmarks and whatnot.

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

theadder posted:

does it irl send a lot of stuff back to google or is it more collaborating against u??

basically everything you type into the omnibox gets sent to google (or sometimes your configured search engine), as is your history/cookies/bookmarks/etc. (but you can optionally encrypt those with a key google can't access)

pseudorandom name fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Oct 23, 2014

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy

theadder posted:

does it irl send a lot of stuff back to google or is it more collaborating against u??

why don't you read the TOS and report back

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

maniacdevnull posted:

yeah i agree they'll never be good at chess either

what i'm more interested in is what happens when one of the critical data sources suddenly disappears -- eg. a plastic bag blows around and gets stuck on the lidar unit, rendering the vehicle blind in rush hour traffic. neither continuing forwards, stopping dead, or gently slowing down is going to solve every possible situation, and i doubt you could get a zoned out/texting/sleeping occupant woken up and controlling the car in manual mode fast enough. (note that google's current prototype, the one that looks like :downs:, actually has no manual controls at all)

the lidar also costs $70,000 iirc so these cars aren't quite mass market ready yet.

also unfortunately, process airbag.exe has stopped, etc.

Shifty Pony posted:

out vision is also the product of millions of years of strong evolutionary pressure resulting in a pretty finely honed ability to pick out motion or "strange" shapes/patterns because any of our ancestors that were bad at that got eaten.

i'd like to see an fmri or pet study done on someone driving down the highway past a speed trap. i bet that someone seeing the characteristic features of a crown vic in the distance generates exactly the same activation pattern in the exact same brain areas as an ancient hunter gatherer spotting a tiger in the grass

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


Fuzzy Mammal posted:

why don't you read the TOS and report back

i cant read op

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

pseudorandom name posted:

basically everything you type into the omnibox gets sent to google (or sometimes your configured search engine), as is your history/cookies/bookmarks/etc. (but you can optionally encrypt those with a key google can't access)

ok i'll use safari instead

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Sagebrush posted:

i bet that someone seeing the characteristic features of a crown vic in the distance generates exactly the same activation pattern in the exact same brain areas as an ancient hunter gatherer spotting a tiger in the grass

karms
Jan 22, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yam Slacker

slogsdon posted:

i'm the f.lux

PleasureKevin
Jan 2, 2011

you can't screen cap flux though

Catalyst-proof
May 11, 2011

better waste some time with you

Shifty Pony posted:

been loving around with this. actually is pretty effective at collecting all the bullshit email you get and filing them away in categories. the "snooze" reminders to re-check messages later is p. nice and easy to use.

i give it two months before they forget it ever existed.

yeah, it's so original and not late to the party at all

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

maniacdevnull posted:

yeah i agree they'll never be good at chess either

this is a completely different problem set and you know it

cremnob
Jun 30, 2010

:xd:

Exclusive: Google CEO Larry Page Reorgs Staff, Anoints Sundar Pichai as New Product Czar

In a significant reorganization of Google management, CEO Larry Page is transferring leadership of core Google products to Sundar Pichai, according to sources close to the situation.

Google has sent a memo to staff about the move this afternoon, explaining the changes.

It’s a very big portfolio for one of Page’s senior product lieutenant and a fast-rising company executive. The highly respected Pichai will now have purview over research, search, maps, Google+, commerce and ads and infrastructure. And he will over continue to keep his existing responsibility for Android, Chrome and Google Apps. The six executives in charge of newly added product areas, all of whom previously reported directly to Page, will now report to Pichai.

The move seems borne of Page’s concern — which is not new — that Google will become less innovative as it ages. In a memo to staff, he noted that the changes will create less of a bottleneck and also help him focus his attention on existing and also new products. That said, he’ll continue to directly manage business and operations, as wells access and energy (a new unit run by Craig Barratt), Nest, Calico, Google X, corporate development, legal, finance and business (including ad sales).

Sources said Page has said in meetings with staff about the changes that he wants to focus on the “bigger picture” and is unable to do that with so many reports and a myriad of duties related to each product unit.

Interestingly, YouTube is being left out of the centralization effort, with CEO Susan Wojcicki reporting to Page from the largely independent video unit. Wojcicki, of course, is one of Google’s top veteran managers, with the company having been started in her garage. Until recently, she was a top ad products exec.

This is yet another promotion for Pichai, who has been adding key Google businesses to his orbit for years. While sources said that the move is not designed to make him heir apparent to Page, it is still a major milestone for the company’s management, which has long been run by a larger group of execs.

From his beginnings managing Chrome — the browser and then the OS and line of netbooks — Pichai picked up his first additional unit in March 2012, when Google Apps head Dave Girouard left to do a startup. Then, when Andy Rubin stepped down as the long-time leader of Android in March 2013, that high-profile and growing business found its way under Pichai too.

Although Android and Chrome are distinct operating systems, it made sense because Pichai was in charge of the Google units that had developer ecosystems, and the well-liked exec is seen as an ambassador and partnership maker.

And along the way, Pichai has also become more widely recognized outside of Google. Twitter tried to recruit him several years ago for a key product role, and his name was prominently raised in the search for a new CEO of Microsoft.

Pichai was born in 1972 in Chennai, India. Before he arrived at Google in 2004, he worked at Applied Materials and also at McKinsey & Co. and attended the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania, Stanford University and the Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur.

Now, he’s reached his highest spot as yet, effectively becoming SVP of all Google products. But sources said he’s not getting a title change for now.

Does this mean a flight risk for the executives that formerly reported to Page and are now being layered under Pichai?

Probably not. Most are long-time Google loyalists, including: Alan Eustace in research (who was literally on top of the world this very morning breaking the high-altitude parachuting record); Amit Singhal in search; Dave Besbris in social; Jen Fitzpatrick in maps (this was a recent promotion, but she’s been at the company since 1999); Sridhar Ramaswamy on ads and commerce; and Urs Holze on technical infrastructure.

What’s remarkable is almost everyone in that group has been at Google more than a decade. Besbris is the newest recruit — he joined Google in 2008.

Page has a predilection for rewarding long-time loyalists. Just last week, it was announced that Omid Kordestani — who led Google’s business from 1999 to 2009 — would become the permanent chief business officer. He’d been the interim replacement for Nikesh Arora, who left for SoftBank this summer. Instead of promoting from within or recruiting from outside, Page brought one of the key members of the old guard back. Kordestani, though, will be reporting to Page.

It’s been interesting to watch Page, one of the most prominent founder-CEOs in tech, as he evolved his leadership configuration, which has done a few times since taking over more than three years ago. And despite this change, he still remains Google’s top product guru — and, of course, Pichai reports to Page.

cremnob
Jun 30, 2010

larry page will focus on empire building and spending money on dumb things

pram
Jun 10, 2001

cremnob posted:

:xd:

Exclusive: Google CEO Larry Page Reorgs Staff, Anoints Sundar Pichai as New Product Czar

In a significant reorganization of Google management, CEO Larry Page is transferring leadership of core Google products to Sundar Pichai, according to sources close to the situation.

Google has sent a memo to staff about the move this afternoon, explaining the changes.

It’s a very big portfolio for one of Page’s senior product lieutenant and a fast-rising company executive. The highly respected Pichai will now have purview over research, search, maps, Google+, commerce and ads and infrastructure. And he will over continue to keep his existing responsibility for Android, Chrome and Google Apps. The six executives in charge of newly added product areas, all of whom previously reported directly to Page, will now report to Pichai.

The move seems borne of Page’s concern — which is not new — that Google will become less innovative as it ages. In a memo to staff, he noted that the changes will create less of a bottleneck and also help him focus his attention on existing and also new products. That said, he’ll continue to directly manage business and operations, as wells access and energy (a new unit run by Craig Barratt), Nest, Calico, Google X, corporate development, legal, finance and business (including ad sales).

Sources said Page has said in meetings with staff about the changes that he wants to focus on the “bigger picture” and is unable to do that with so many reports and a myriad of duties related to each product unit.

Interestingly, YouTube is being left out of the centralization effort, with CEO Susan Wojcicki reporting to Page from the largely independent video unit. Wojcicki, of course, is one of Google’s top veteran managers, with the company having been started in her garage. Until recently, she was a top ad products exec.

This is yet another promotion for Pichai, who has been adding key Google businesses to his orbit for years. While sources said that the move is not designed to make him heir apparent to Page, it is still a major milestone for the company’s management, which has long been run by a larger group of execs.

From his beginnings managing Chrome — the browser and then the OS and line of netbooks — Pichai picked up his first additional unit in March 2012, when Google Apps head Dave Girouard left to do a startup. Then, when Andy Rubin stepped down as the long-time leader of Android in March 2013, that high-profile and growing business found its way under Pichai too.

Although Android and Chrome are distinct operating systems, it made sense because Pichai was in charge of the Google units that had developer ecosystems, and the well-liked exec is seen as an ambassador and partnership maker.

And along the way, Pichai has also become more widely recognized outside of Google. Twitter tried to recruit him several years ago for a key product role, and his name was prominently raised in the search for a new CEO of Microsoft.

Pichai was born in 1972 in Chennai, India. Before he arrived at Google in 2004, he worked at Applied Materials and also at McKinsey & Co. and attended the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania, Stanford University and the Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur.

Now, he’s reached his highest spot as yet, effectively becoming SVP of all Google products. But sources said he’s not getting a title change for now.

Does this mean a flight risk for the executives that formerly reported to Page and are now being layered under Pichai?

Probably not. Most are long-time Google loyalists, including: Alan Eustace in research (who was literally on top of the world this very morning breaking the high-altitude parachuting record); Amit Singhal in search; Dave Besbris in social; Jen Fitzpatrick in maps (this was a recent promotion, but she’s been at the company since 1999); Sridhar Ramaswamy on ads and commerce; and Urs Holze on technical infrastructure.

What’s remarkable is almost everyone in that group has been at Google more than a decade. Besbris is the newest recruit — he joined Google in 2008.

Page has a predilection for rewarding long-time loyalists. Just last week, it was announced that Omid Kordestani — who led Google’s business from 1999 to 2009 — would become the permanent chief business officer. He’d been the interim replacement for Nikesh Arora, who left for SoftBank this summer. Instead of promoting from within or recruiting from outside, Page brought one of the key members of the old guard back. Kordestani, though, will be reporting to Page.

It’s been interesting to watch Page, one of the most prominent founder-CEOs in tech, as he evolved his leadership configuration, which has done a few times since taking over more than three years ago. And despite this change, he still remains Google’s top product guru — and, of course, Pichai reports to Page.

Didn't read

Linguica
Jul 13, 2000
You're already dead

At least Googlers are good at orchestrating a freefall

cremnob
Jun 30, 2010

microsoft pr chief

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

cremnob posted:

microsoft pr chief



same but posts

:george:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



pram posted:

Didn't read

same, also that smiley w the hands

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Sagebrush posted:

same but posts

:george:

do a thing with instead of gaben its whoever that guy is and instead of hl3 its that thing or whatever

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake

cremnob posted:

Sources said Page has said in meetings with staff about the changes that he wants to focus on the “bigger picture” and is unable to do that with so many reports and a myriad of duties related to each product unit.

lmbo

yeah, larry. that's exactly the problem. you did it.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

well someone just pointed out a couple days ago that google has a serious problem with division of labor and duplication of work. like 6 different units that all do their own version of "android for thing" for instance. that's a real issue

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Sagebrush posted:

well someone just pointed out a couple days ago that google has a serious problem with division of labor and duplication of work. like 6 different units that all do their own version of "android for thing" for instance. that's a real issue

how is even two groups working independently on the same thing even a realistic problem if the management have any idea what is going on?

cremnob
Jun 30, 2010

larry page will step down as ceo within 3 years and sundar will replace him. until then larry will focus on the "big picture" stuff and invest or acquire random startups in the hopes of hitting it big. sundar will then be left to manage the new bloated microsoft

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



itd be pretty funny if a google expat bought some other sports team to fight ballmer

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

Snapchat A Titty posted:

itd be pretty funny if a google expat bought some other sports team to fight ballmer

which NBA franchise would be the googliest purchase?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



im a true nerd idk sports

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



bayern münchen?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Sagebrush posted:

well someone just pointed out a couple days ago that google has a serious problem with division of labor and duplication of work. like 6 different units that all do their own version of "android for thing" for instance. that's a real issue

well when you decide to acquihire 5000 startups you got to find something to do with them

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Nintendo Kid posted:

well when you decide to acquihire 5000 startups you got to find something to do with them

               /

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

cremnob posted:

larry page will focus on empire building and spending money on dumb things

his office tag reads

larry paige
dept of dumb poo poo
dont bother knocking my time is worthles!!!

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



poty posted:

his office tag reads

larry paige
dept of dumb poo poo
dont bother knocking my time is worthles!!!

rofl irl

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Snapchat A Titty posted:

               /


it's more like having 6000 nerds and tell them they're going to make some sweet wax wings and then one department actually makes a 737

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



hhaah goddamn gently caress

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YEdHjGMeho

this is how google hardware designers eat food

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
Larry doesn't have a loving clue what he's doing. he's just high all of the time and loving interns. whatever happened to Sergei?

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flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

The Management posted:

Larry doesn't have a loving clue what he's doing. he's just high all of the time and loving interns.

not everyone's goals extend to corporate success

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