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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I hope he has Wolverine on display. And uses the frozen open mouth as a beer opener.
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PelvicNerve posted:The Reed/Susan bits made me happy as honestly, Susan's behavior was the part that hit the hardest for me so far. I found the initial reaction of the previous issues with Sue to be more believable honestly. Reed is always pulling this poo poo and she's been rightly seemingly justified in wanting to find him and bring him in. If it gets hand waved with an unseen panel or two of Reed telling Sue everything that was happening during the initial NA run then I feel like it's a cop out. And it also feels more and more like its sticking Steve in that super stubborn role he gets chucked into for events like these. More so now because he's a kinda jacked old man.
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Oct 23, 2014 00:19
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I believe Sue would go just as far as Reed to protect their children.
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Oct 23, 2014 00:22
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Senor Candle posted:I believe Sue would go just as far as Reed to protect their children. Yeah this kinda threat is the poo poo Susan and the F4/FF deal with every other month. She has told mad celestials to go to hell and protected Reed. I imagine she was mad realizing she was out of the loop again but like she said, that's basically what Reed always does.
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Oct 23, 2014 00:24
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Jiro posted:I found the initial reaction of the previous issues with Sue to be more believable honestly. Reed is always pulling this poo poo and she's been rightly seemingly justified in wanting to find him and bring him in. If it gets hand waved with an unseen panel or two of Reed telling Sue everything that was happening during the initial NA run then I feel like it's a cop out. And it also feels more and more like its sticking Steve in that super stubborn role he gets chucked into for events like these. More so now because he's a kinda jacked old man. That's boring and predictable though, if there's one thing more overused then Cap being stubborn it's the Fantastic Four splitting up. Like you said he does this all the time and it works out all the time her trust isn't misplaced.
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Oct 23, 2014 00:25
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Thought on Val's message at the end of the issue? My initial idea was that it was something like don't worry about destroying the other worlds, just make it so Earth will dodge all future incursions while the rest of the universes destroy each other.
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Oct 23, 2014 00:30
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GraPar posted:Thought on Val's message at the end of the issue? My initial idea was that it was something like don't worry about destroying the other worlds, just make it so Earth will dodge all future incursions while the rest of the universes destroy each other. I don't think Val would be so short-sighted. I bet it's something more pessimistic like "it's ok to let it all end, time to figure out how to make it through that". Kinda like Galactus. Universes die and start again. Galen made it through. Why not let incursions run their course and have the multi-verse restart?
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Oct 23, 2014 00:33
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SirDan3k posted:Hickman is making me question if the Crisis callers are right and I'm pretty sure he trying to. The 616 destroyed? Never going to happen but the threat of a reboot? That's a possibility. A consolidation of universes with the 616 as the lifeboat of the multiuniverse, that's the real threat in a very meta way. This makes me wonder about something. Apparently we've (somehow) gone from an infinite number of universes to a finite number. What happens when/if 616 is the only one left? There'd be no more Earths to collide with that one.
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Oct 23, 2014 00:37
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I just remember Val saying she's smarter than her dad and if she says we're all hosed, I don't know if Thor and Hyperion punching the incursions in the face are going to help nor will anyone else's plan.
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Oct 23, 2014 00:40
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notthegoatseguy posted:I just remember Val saying she's smarter than her dad and if she says we're all hosed, I don't know if Thor and Hyperion punching the incursions in the face are going to help nor will anyone else's plan. I see people continuing to not take into account the beard factor in this equation.
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Oct 23, 2014 00:45
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ShiftyEyedRaccoon posted:This makes me wonder about something. Apparently we've (somehow) gone from an infinite number of universes to a finite number. What happens when/if 616 is the only one left? There'd be no more Earths to collide with that one. The big reveal was that the universe itself is dying. The incursions are just speeding up the deaths of other universes. Even if all the other universe were destroyed 616 would still die out just not from inclusions.
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Oct 23, 2014 00:52
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notthegoatseguy posted:I don't know if Thor and Hyperion punching the incursions in the face are going to help nor will anyone else's plan. It's a comic, face punching is the only answer. 
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Oct 23, 2014 01:08
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I don't think Val would be so short-sighted. I bet it's something more pessimistic like "it's ok to let it all end, time to figure out how to make it through that". Kinda like Galactus. Universes die and start again. Galen made it through. Why not let incursions run their course and have the multi-verse restart? I am pretty sure its like in chess, Reed can not win but the key is finding a way to make it a draw.
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Oct 23, 2014 04:51
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hope and vaseline posted:I love the mention of the FF kids working on the problem. I fell off the FF run around the time that Allred took up wrapping up Fraction's run, have they been featured in anything recently? They are still in Fantastic Four, but mainly in the background, since they have been put in "protective custody" by SHIELD. I do like the interactions with Jim Hammond, who is the best thing from Robinson's average Invaders/Fantastic Four.
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Oct 23, 2014 06:43
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Sue being a double agent seemed too predictable. I kinda want to see her turn out to be a triple agent.
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Oct 23, 2014 08:41
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GraPar posted:Thought on Val's message at the end of the issue? My initial idea was that it was something like don't worry about destroying the other worlds, just make it so Earth will dodge all future incursions while the rest of the universes destroy each other. "Dear Dad, stay the hell out of Uncle Doom's way and everything'll be just fine."
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Oct 23, 2014 08:46
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Really good issue this week. At least one mcguffin is off the table as a solution. Reed seems to have asked Franklin to stop an incursion, and Franklin failed.
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Oct 23, 2014 09:16
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^ The Franklin thing was awesome. They've done a good job dismissing all the obvious "deus ex machinas" (rogue planet, moving population off-planet).quote:Also, I guess there's a new mutant status quo 8 months from now. I approve that Scott is (or could be) their apparent leader, just to piss Cap. They've pretty much made up and hanging out again at the end of Axis #3.
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Oct 23, 2014 10:25
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Web Jew.0 posted:They've pretty much made up and hanging out again at the end of Axis #3. Considering that "people acting oddly out of character" is kind of a main plot point of SIXIS, I wouldn't put much stock in that.
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Oct 23, 2014 12:23
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I really wish we could have seen old man Cap try and beat down Terrax with just his cane.
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Oct 23, 2014 13:06
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Very excited that Dr. Voodoo is coming back, I know Remender has been trying to bring him back for awhile now but couldn't cus Bendis killed him.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Considering that "people acting oddly out of character" is kind of a main plot point of SIXIS, I wouldn't put much stock in that. They were pretty chummy even before the inversion though.
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Oct 23, 2014 14:27
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:"Dear Dad, stay the hell out of Uncle Doom's way and everything'll be just fine." I think that was the point of the letter. The letter says "Dear Dad, You can't win" I think the point is that Reed and the Illuminati can't solve this problem, not that there is no solution. Like all of Reed's gizmo's would just fail. But Dr. Doom's plan of getting the Molecule Man and the Beyonder to do the Fusion Dance before blasting the Super Big Bad in the face will save everyone.
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Oct 23, 2014 14:40
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Just to double check, there hasn't been any follow up whatsoever on The Watcher showing Tony Stark a dead Living Tribunal, right?
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Oct 23, 2014 21:54
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Skwirl posted:Just to double check, there hasn't been any follow up whatsoever on The Watcher showing Tony Stark a dead Living Tribunal, right? Negative.
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DrPaper posted:Very excited that Dr. Voodoo is coming back, I know Remender has been trying to bring him back for awhile now but couldn't cus Bendis killed him. Okay between Havok's speech and wanting to bring back Brother Voodoo I am comfortable calling Remender a racist that thinks he's progressive. "No see he's got a giant tiki mask, a grassskirt and a magic spear because it's his culture, he's reclaiming it go drown in hobo piss!"
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Oct 23, 2014 23:22
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SirDan3k posted:Okay between Havok's speech and wanting to bring back Brother Voodoo I am comfortable calling Remender a racist that thinks he's progressive. I hate to admit it, but I kind of like the idea of Brother Voodoo (or a Voodoo based character). I wish it wasn't such a problematic concept.
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radlum posted:I hate to admit it, but I kind of like the idea of Brother Voodoo (or a Voodoo based character). I wish it wasn't such a problematic concept. They will bring him back as a stereotypical pimp.
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Nevvy Z posted:They will bring him back as a stereotypical pimp. Okay, how about making him Sorceror Supreme and calling him Doctor Voodoo rather than Brother Voodoo?
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Oct 24, 2014 05:07
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What about Falcon? Is this comic going to have two pimps?
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Oct 24, 2014 05:09
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Anyone interested in a voodoo superhero should read look up Shadowman.
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Oct 24, 2014 05:10
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notthegoatseguy posted:Okay, how about making him Sorceror Supreme and calling him Doctor Voodoo rather than Brother Voodoo? I never understood that name change. Doctor Strange was called that because he's an actual Doctor. It's not like becoming Sorcerer Supreme comes with an honorary doctorate.
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Oct 24, 2014 05:17
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Dacap posted:I never understood that name change. Doctor Strange was called that because he's an actual Doctor. It's not like becoming Sorcerer Supreme comes with an honorary doctorate. They thought making him a Doctor would help distance the character from it's incredibly stupid roots apparently unaware it would make his name Doctor Voodoo. "He's old-ish and therefore worth revamping and keeping around", said stupid people.
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Oct 24, 2014 05:33
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Well the in-comic explanation was that he was, you know, a doctor. With a practice and everything.
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Oct 24, 2014 05:41
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SirDan3k posted:Okay between Havok's speech and wanting to bring back Brother Voodoo I am comfortable calling Remender a racist that thinks he's progressive. With Avenger's Manifold Hickman shows that you can do the whole heritage-thing without resorting into cringeworthy well-meaning racism (let alone the other kind). I'd wait and see how it turns out.
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Oct 24, 2014 06:50
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Dacap posted:I never understood that name change. Doctor Strange was called that because he's an actual Doctor. It's not like becoming Sorcerer Supreme comes with an honorary doctorate. Maybe it should. I mean, you gotta study those ancient tomes like craaaazy. "I'm Doctor Stephen Strange, MD, with a PhD in wizardry"
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Decius posted:With Avenger's Manifold Hickman shows that you can do the whole heritage-thing without resorting into cringeworthy well-meaning racism (let alone the other kind). I'd wait and see how it turns out. Manifold is the result of writers realizing that Gateway was a lost cause though, Brother Voodoo for some reason people think they can save.
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Oct 24, 2014 09:32
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I don't get his loving costume. The Baron Samedi top-hat-and-no-shoes thing seems like what you'd take if you went the obvious route. Also I think he has a Ph.D. in psychiatry?
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I think Brother Voodoo is fine if you just use the outfit he wore as Sorcerer Supreme/ the outfit they use for him in Avenger's Alliance. http://avengersalliance.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Voodoo Just change some of the colours, make it look distinctive enough so it doesn't look like he has Dr. Strange's mantle and he's good to go. Like when you break it down he's got a lot of great story hooks (he's a magic user and a doctor. He's tied in with Voodun lore and regularly communicates and deals with spirits and possessions. He has a cool rear end magic stick to smash demons over the head with. Plus he has his Ghost Brother as a backup character to provide a different outlook and things. How does it feel to be a hero when you are literally haunted by your brother?) I think he's a great character with a lot of potential and could really work if Marvel distinguished him from other spell casters. Particularly if you want to do some magic based stories, but don't want to trot out Dr. Strange.
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Looking forward with regard to the incursions, I am calling it now that things will eventually come down to 616 and one other universe (but which one?! Ultimate is my early guess.) since the seed has already been...seeded that we're actually down to a finite number of universes. Something is going to happen to (dammit) reseed the multiverse and this is where Secret Wars kicks in.
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