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I'm looking forward to the Twisty backstory next episode, but I'd almost rather they keep it a total mystery. This was a really good episode. Probably about as good as it's been since the first season.
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Man, I'm glad that the moment I started thinking of Dell as a person, he does something even loving worse to remind me that he's scum of the earth. Cried during Ethel's story. Cried during Meep's funeral.
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Sorry for the interruption, but what'd I miss after Dell's failed handy? The exchange between him and Bassett after he slammed her against the wall?
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Oct 23, 2014 05:08
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Trabant posted:Sorry for the interruption, but what'd I miss after Dell's failed handy? The exchange between him and Bassett after he slammed her against the wall? Basically she was all like "touch me again and I'm leaving" and he looked really vulnerable and human for a second-- aaaand then it was gone.
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Oct 23, 2014 05:19
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Thanks. I thought it was something else entirely.
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Oct 23, 2014 05:36
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The twins weren't as prominently featured this time around, so it's easy to forget, but there was a pretty significant plot point introduced. Namely that Dot was having a dream in which a doctor separates them so she can live a normal, happy life with fame and a husband, and Bette dies as a result. And then when they wake, Dot admits the dream wasn't just a dream, is how she really feels, and actually does expect to separate from Bette at some point, even if it kills her in the process. Bette just sort of took it given how their relationship is, but it kinda throws a wrench in the idea that she would eventually kill Dot at Elsa's encouragement.
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Oct 23, 2014 08:47
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I hope Patti Labelle kills that little shithead Dandy.
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Oct 23, 2014 17:51
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OmegaBR posted:The twins weren't as prominently featured this time around, so it's easy to forget, but there was a pretty significant plot point introduced. Namely that Dot was having a dream in which a doctor separates them so she can live a normal, happy life with fame and a husband, and Bette dies as a result. And then when they wake, Dot admits the dream wasn't just a dream, is how she really feels, and actually does expect to separate from Bette at some point, even if it kills her in the process. Or, it might encourage it. It's kill or be killed for Bette now.
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This season should be called American Horror Story: Twisty and Dandy because that is the only part of the show I really care about. The Freakshow is just filler with some great moments in between (Anything Kathy Bates, Dennis O'Hare and his giant dong, the horrifying dream scene). I wish Edward Moredrake was a regular freak instead of a 2 episode arc because he is pretty awesome and I think "Make the freaks divulge their darkest secrets to live" could be a pretty cool running theme for this season. The Jessica Lange music numbers don't bother me because of the song choices though this weeks felt more forced than the awesome Bowie number. I hated the Criminal performance though. Over-produced, out of place, awful forced mosh pit. It really felt like it was from Glee. The sum of these haphazardly typed thoughts is that I am enjoying this season much more than Coven but I really don't care about any of the main cast outside of Bates. Evan Peters could die next episode and I would be totally cool with it.
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TheBizzness posted:Evan Peters could die next episode and I would be totally cool with it. How dare you  I love his tormented character.
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If they are going to be tossing musical numbers around, they better give one to Patti  Also, Edward Mordrake was possibly a real person, though obviously his condition is pretty embellished. There are a few historical references to him, but it's just as likely that it was all apocryphal. Diprosopus could account for him having "two faces," though as far as I know they would have to be two faces side by side rather than on the front and back. Pretty neat that they added him into the show.
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Can someone post a screencap of Mordrake's second face please?
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Y'know, I was thinking: The Name Game in season two was Lange's idea, right? What if she's the one all like, "Well, this is my last season, I'm going to make the most of it, and I want tons of musical numbers!" And Murphy agrees because of course he would.
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I love the line "I find clowns delightful". It shows this huge schism between LALALA I LIVE IN THE 50S AND NOTHING BAD EVER HAPPENS and the reality of the screaming, hysterical what-the-gently caress-is-wrong-with-you-people child. Is it commentary of how sleepwalker-ish that era was? Because it feels like it is. The last episode with Dandy's mother bringing Twisty in being kind of a glaring statement about it. So, what? The freak show represents all of the repressed monstrosities of the 50s? All of its 'twisted' (Oh god. Did I just do that?) bowels? How it was so obsessed with everything being normal and perfect? And why the gently caress am I even attempting to analyze this goddamn show  So what's the deal? Are Bette/Dot going to become the female Mordrake? Because it kind of feels like it. MadSparkle fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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TrekBek posted:Y'know, I was thinking: The Name Game in season two was Lange's idea, right? What if she's the one all like, "Well, this is my last season, I'm going to make the most of it, and I want tons of musical numbers!" And Murphy agrees because of course he would. Maybe Elsa's character arc isn't just fiction  edit: I could see them having Mordrake take one of the two heads or something. I think someone mentioned that filming with both of them on the screen at once was a pain in the rear end, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did something to split them up sooner rather than later. That way she could come back as a sweet disembodied ghost head and they wouldn't technically have to lose an actor. The preview kinda made it look like Mordrake might end up taking Desiree, though. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Did you guys figure out if it was an hour or an hour and a half? My DVR only recorded an hour and it seems like they cut off the episode.
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Dienes posted:Did you guys figure out if it was an hour or an hour and a half? My DVR only recorded an hour and it seems like they cut off the episode. Yeah, it ran till 11:20ish if you include the next episode preview.
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MadSparkle posted:Can someone tell me, I'm probably loving retarded, but is Mordrake the same guy from American Beauty? yep, his name is Wes Bentley
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I thought I was out last week, but I watched it last night and now I'm firmly in to see how awful this can get. It feels like it's on the way to surpassing Coven already. I hope Twisty remains a pointless side story for the whole season.
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I'm enjoying this season. Gods and Monsters was the best musical performance yet and I adore Kathy Bates and her bizarre accent. Although, I'm not looking forward to yet another love triangle and I'm sure there's gonna be one. I want the seal guy to have more scenes, he's my favorite of the supporting cast.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:I'm enjoying this season. Gods and Monsters was the best musical performance yet and I adore Kathy Bates and her bizarre accent. Although, I'm not looking forward to yet another love triangle and I'm sure there's gonna be one. Yeah, seal guy is really a standout. That's another thing that bothers me, though, is that it goes to all this effort to say "freaks are real people too!" and goes so far as to hire real people with physical disabilities as actors, and then... they're just the background cast. Most of them have shown they can act (minus the littlest girl, who I can't understand a word of), but the only ones that have plots are the normal people with prosthetics. It's kind of annoying.
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Oct 24, 2014 07:36
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10 Beers posted:The tiny lady is ADORABLE!  Freaking adorable.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:
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TheIndividual posted:Yeah, seal guy is really a standout. That's another thing that bothers me, though, is that it goes to all this effort to say "freaks are real people too!" and goes so far as to hire real people with physical disabilities as actors, and then... they're just the background cast. Most of them have shown they can act (minus the littlest girl, who I can't understand a word of), but the only ones that have plots are the normal people with prosthetics. It's kind of annoying. A similar thing happened with Jim Jefferies where he went out of his way to hire someone with muscular dystrophy to play a part on his show, but during all the audtions most of them were either severely disabled and not really able to act, or were just bad actors in general. Only one person had stood out from the croud, but it had turned out he was faking having MD the entire time, adn then didn't tell him it was an act but tried to pretend that he had it the whole time. He ended up hiring DJ Qualls to fill that role. Acting background and acting out as a leading role are entirely different things, and much harder to find really good talent for that.
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Veskit posted:A similar thing happened with Jim Jefferies where he went out of his way to hire someone with muscular dystrophy to play a part on his show, but during all the audtions most of them were either severely disabled and not really able to act, or were just bad actors in general. Only one person had stood out from the croud, but it had turned out he was faking having MD the entire time, adn then didn't tell him it was an act but tried to pretend that he had it the whole time. Or when Clint Eastwood cast actual Hmong for Gran Torino, even though most of them were bad actors.
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The seal guy has proven himself to be a solid actor so far though. I think it would've been better if they would've given him all of Jimmy's rants about how "freaks are people too", it would've fit his character better. Also Ma Petite popping out of the pumpkin was the est thing ever.
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Elsa: "I will not be so easily convinced by a pretty face!" *falls for lovely fortune telling hook, line and sinker* That scene actually had me burst out laughing, it made no sense at all. I feel like most of the Freak Show subplots are like that, half-assed and I'm not invested in these characters enough to care much. Twisty and Dandy sideshow is operating on dream logic and is genuinely creepy and uncomfortable and I'm enjoying it quite a bit. Seems like most of the freaks aren't really getting any characterization beyond "are freaks, feel sorry for them!"
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Most of the minor cast also have a lot of their own things going on. Mat Fraser is in a band and does independent performances and like a million other things, and Erika Ervin is a model/fitness trainer. Maybe they're just mad busy since this is just a side gig for them.
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Pellisworth posted:Elsa: "I will not be so easily convinced by a pretty face!" Except everything she said was true and came to pass. Plus Elsa knows the performance is just as if not more than important than the accuracy in fortune telling. Sit back relax and enjoy the spectacle. You uptight overanalysing fucks need to take a breath.
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Woodglue posted:Except everything she said was true and came to pass. Plus Elsa knows the performance is just as if not more than important than the accuracy in fortune telling. Yeah I think it's pretty transparent that she's going to wind up being an actual fortune teller. I can see it coming from a mile away. Also, is it just me or are we getting much less of Lange than in prior seasons? She seems to have been relegated to a side character. It's odd, but then again I wouldn't blame Lange for wanting more of a side role at her age.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Maybe Elsa's character arc isn't just fiction The first episode I was really wondering if we were going to find out that David Bowie was this season's Stevie Nicks, because he's a time-traveling space god or whatever. Maybe instead it's that' she's the future writer of al pop music (or it's like Bioshock Infinite and she's channeling the future). Given this show's history, it'll blow my mind if we actually get any payoff for the anachronistic song choices. Also: KIT HAGS posted:Take. ultramiraculous fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Woodglue posted:Except everything she said was true and came to pass. Everything she said was vague and pointedly based on the details of the room she observed. Elsa bought it either because it was very much what she wanted to hear or she recognized it as a good fortune-telling performance; that doesn't mean the character really has psychic powers.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:
I keep hearing that we're gonna get a a backstory to Twisty next week which makes me think Mordrake is the one who get's the story out of him and... erk, setting up Dandy as the big bad . I hope I'm wrong :/ I know we're not supposed to spoil speculation, but it's my mind putting 2 + 2 together after reading a vague interview so, yeah - rather be safe than sorry.
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My understanding is he takes a member of the Freak show and Twisty isn't so that wouldn't really fit. But this is American Horror Story so who knows!
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So I skipped Season 3 because when I was finally done with Season 2 Freak Show was starting and I figured because they are different every season it couldn't hurt to watch Freak Show as it airs. I'm finally getting around to watching Season 3 and holy poo poo I chuckled the gently caress out loud when she goes "yeah. so i guess i'm a witch". So casual.
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Oct 25, 2014 02:17
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I judge people so hard when they tell me that Coven was their favorite season of AHS.
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KIT HAGS posted:I judge people so hard when they tell me that Coven was their favorite season of AHS.
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