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Willa Rogers posted:There's even a parody site based on the Dems' emails this year: http://emailsfromthedccc.tumblr.com I love this. quote:POLLING BEAR: Well, Billy, it’s all up to your parents.
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MickeyFinn posted:About $3k/person. So like 5x Bush tax rebates.
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Oct 23, 2014 04:16
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I somehow have DCCC emails in both of my accounts and they're constant entertainment.
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Oct 23, 2014 04:16
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This one cracked me up. These are all great, though. http://emailsfromthedccc.tumblr.com/post/93525226237
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Oct 23, 2014 04:37
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This one's real, but reads like a parody:quote:Manny --
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Oct 23, 2014 05:24
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I wonder what the republican ones are like, or is their small donor base not big enough? Does the RNC ask for $3 donations?
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Oct 23, 2014 05:33
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MickeyFinn posted:What? It was racist against blacks to ban them from attending Alabama's state university. It's racist against whites to not-ban blacks from entering the US, because they're carrying Ebola into the country.
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Oct 23, 2014 05:47
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Joementum posted:Gohmert of the day, "I've had people say, 'Hey, you know, there's nothing wrong with gays in the military. Look at the Greeks,' Well, you know, they did have people come along who they loved that was the same sex and would give them massages before they went into battle. But you know what, it's a different kind of fighting, it's a different kind of war and if you're sitting around getting massages all day ready to go into a big, planned battle, then you're not going to last very long. It's guerrilla fighting. You are going to be ultimately vulnerable to terrorism and if that's what you start doing in the military like the Greeks did ... as people have said, 'Louie, you have got to understand, you don't even know your history.' Oh yes I do. I know exactly. It's not a good idea." This is a rich tapestry of wrongness. Now imagine the above quote in an Xtacles voice.
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Oct 23, 2014 05:49
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SKELETONS posted:I wonder what the republican ones are like, or is their small donor base not big enough? Does the RNC ask for $3 donations? http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/young-republicans-outraged-by-rncs-did-you-abandon-the-gop-f Traditionally they're all fear-based. Direct Mail in politics was pioneered by Richard Vigurie on the right and Morris Dees on the left and they both found the formula pretty quickly. Images that cause strong emotions coupled with scary headlines and fear-mongering. Of course Morris Dees used the money to battle the Klan into obsolescence in court, so he's got a little moral superiority there, heh. Grab a stock photo of Pelosi baring her teeth, amp up the saturation to make her looked older and meaner, write a headline about amnesty for illegals and then toss in some copy about jobs and ebola and ISIS and, bam, money rolls in.
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Oct 23, 2014 05:52
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Gaussian posted:So a guy I know from high school just commented on this article about voter ID laws. His comments were: I'm pretty sure my grandmother doesn't have an ID and hasn't done any of those things. Does your friend know any old people?
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Oct 23, 2014 05:58
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Forget old people, that describes a significant chunk of people over 18 but under 21.
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Oct 23, 2014 06:01
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Joementum posted:Gohmert of the day, "I've had people say, 'Hey, you know, there's nothing wrong with gays in the military. Look at the Greeks,' Well, you know, they did have people come along who they loved that was the same sex and would give them massages before they went into battle. But you know what, it's a different kind of fighting, it's a different kind of war and if you're sitting around getting massages all day ready to go into a big, planned battle, then you're not going to last very long. It's guerrilla fighting. You are going to be ultimately vulnerable to terrorism and if that's what you start doing in the military like the Greeks did ... as people have said, 'Louie, you have got to understand, you don't even know your history.' Oh yes I do. I know exactly. It's not a good idea." This is so incredible.
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Oct 23, 2014 06:25
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Silver2195 posted:I'm pretty sure my grandmother doesn't have an ID and hasn't done any of those things. There are various newspaper stories about individuals who would be disenfranchised by voter id requirements, and they're usually sympathetic old ladies, but the better argument is to point out that the sort of in-person voter fraud that voter id laws are supposedly meant to prevent effectively do not exist. I think a lot of sympathy for the idea of voter id laws comes from the reflexive belief that Republicans wouldn't be pushing these things if there wasn't at least some problem here. Insisting that voter id laws are harmless are a little like suggesting that everybody who votes is required to show up at the polls with a T-bone steak in their pocket, so that in the event of a wolf attack on the polls they can distract the wolves with the steak. Because it's not like it's that difficult getting your hands on a steak. And what are you, pro-wolf?
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Oct 23, 2014 06:35
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You also point out that DL are not proof of voter eligibility, or even citizenship. That would be the domain of birth certificates and passports. My 96 old aunt stop driving so her DL just lapsed now she wouldnt be able to vote. Also ID's are not free. Thus you have to pay to be able to vote a sorta poll tax. Finally whats to stop someone from commenting fraud by use of mail in ballots?
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Oct 23, 2014 07:20
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Gaussian posted:
You agree, a national photo ID card which doubles as a DL and passport should be available to everyone free of charge and the FICA cap should be removed and cap gains taxed at the normal income rate to pay for it. As LBJ taught us, the trick is to whip out your cock to show dominance.
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Oct 23, 2014 08:12
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You can't have a national ID card act as a passport, you need pages for visas and stamps. Also passports need to be biometric these days and a national ID card would be enough of a tough sell without taking everyone's fingerprints on top of it. Oh wait you were being facetious. Besides they'd just come up with some other kind of suppression. I mean you have the VRA and they simply came up with the ID stuff to get around it.
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Oct 23, 2014 08:24
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A national ID card? I think I know what that means! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lknW2mzXMMY
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Oct 23, 2014 08:34
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Antti posted:You can't have a national ID card act as a passport, you need pages for visas and stamps. Also passports need to be biometric these days and a national ID card would be enough of a tough sell without taking everyone's fingerprints on top of it. I've got a passport card in my wallet. You can get one too from the State Department for $60.
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Oct 23, 2014 09:36
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Joementum posted:I've got a passport card in my wallet. You can get one too from the State Department for $60. You sure can! And it's only valid for travel between countries the US has made an agreement with to accept it as a travel document, similar to national IDs being valid travel documents within the Schengen area. But it's not a passport. Edit: I sperg about this sort of thing for a living, I didn't mean to come across like an rear end in a top hat if I did. Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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Oct 23, 2014 09:42
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What kinda job pays you to sperg about travel ID's
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Oct 23, 2014 11:18
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max4me posted:What kinda job pays you to sperg about travel ID's Government. It involves among other things establishing a person's travel history and period of stay in the country, and of course their identity.
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Oct 23, 2014 11:20
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Well, if we're going to sperg out about this, you did say...Antti posted:You can't have a national ID card act as a passport And the passport card is certainly a card acting as a passport to those countries where the US has agreements.  I'm also going to guess that it's an acceptable form of ID for voting purposes in those jurisdictions where such things are required.
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Oct 23, 2014 11:25
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Joementum posted:I'm also going to guess that it's an acceptable form of ID for voting purposes in those jurisdictions where such things are required. How often, I wonder, would you get turned away by someone who didn't recognize it?
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Oct 23, 2014 11:34
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Joementum posted:Well, if we're going to sperg out about this, you did say... Well we call it a "travel document" when it's a not-really-a-passport but this is a dumb derail. Regardless the passport card is bona fide ID within the US so yes you should be able to vote with it. You might not be able to vote in EU elections with it (if you are living in an EU country), though! The problem with the passport card as voting ID is though that it doesn't mention your place of residence. So I'd imagine you'll still need a utility bill or something like that. Most American DLs I've seen have the owner's address. That always struck me as a little dumb, you just apply for a new one whenever you move?, over here it's solved by having a national population register that keeps track of where everyone is domiciled.
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Oct 23, 2014 11:38
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Antti posted:Most American DLs I've seen have the owner's address. You can go to the DMV and pay to get a new one if you change addresses. Most people just wait for their current one to expire. That's managed by the state. The voting roll is typically managed by the municipality, so you have to go to the town/city clerk to let them know you've changed addresses. You then have to separately notify the federal agency that tracks your address, the postal service, if you want to keep getting mail. Federalism is a great system!
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Oct 23, 2014 11:44
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Joementum posted:You can go to the DMV and pay to get a new one if you change addresses. Most people just wait for their current one to expire. That's managed by the state. The voting roll is typically managed by the municipality, so you have to go to the town/city clerk to let them know you've changed addresses. You then have to separately notify the federal agency that tracks your address, the postal service, if you want to keep getting mail. At least in Oregon, voter registration is done at the state level, but they keep a separate database than the DMV, so if you move you have to go tell two different state agencies your new address.
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Oct 23, 2014 11:50
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If I move in Finland, I go to the internet, fill out one form, use my internet banking codes to confirm my identity, and it goes to the national post office and the aforementioned system. If you do it more than three months before an election you vote in your new district. All the big banks and companies get their address information from the system too, with your consent. When I was a student and moved once every two years it was a godsend. (Students here move a lot since first you rent whatever apartment you can get your hands on once you enrol, then progressively better and/or cheaper places as you work on the side or queue for them.)
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Oct 23, 2014 11:50
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Antti posted:If I move in Finland, I go to the internet, fill out one form, use my internet banking codes to confirm my identity, and it goes to the national post office and the aforementioned system. If you do it more than three months before an election you vote in your new district. All the big banks and companies get their address information from the system too, with your consent. When I was a student and moved once every two years it was a godsend. Sounds like Orwellian Commie-Fascism to me. I didn't watch my buddies on TV die face down on the beaches of Grenada fighting against that sort of thing to let it creep in here 
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Oct 23, 2014 11:53
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Well I just admitted I work for said Orwellian Commie-Fascist government so what do I know?
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Oct 23, 2014 11:59
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Joementum posted:I think I saw a documentary on this subject once, involving beach volleyball. 
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Oct 23, 2014 12:09
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The thing I loved about Bush at the beach volleyball was that he was legitimately into it and not at all being lecherous. He was like Little League Dad, heh.
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Oct 23, 2014 12:12
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In other news, the office of Bernie Sanders has confirmed that he will never caucus with the Republicans. So, in case you were worried about that, you're an idiot, but you don't need to worry any more.
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Oct 23, 2014 12:17
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Gaussian posted:So a guy I know from high school just commented on this article about voter ID laws. His comments were: Ask him how many convictions for voter fraud there have been nationwide since 2004. In Minnesota, there have been 350, and essentially all of them have been for felons who believed their rights had been restored when they had not been, not the kind of voter fraud most people are thinking about. Generally, there is no such thing as "voter fraud," so why should we expend so much money to enforce Voter ID? It costs money to implement the electronic system, operate it, and train the volunteers, and it makes counting the votes more time consuming, and generally makes the voting process more cumbersome.
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Oct 23, 2014 12:31
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Joementum posted:In other news, the office of Bernie Sanders has confirmed that he will never caucus with the Republicans. Last night I dreamed that a dozen independents got elected somehow and decided to caucus together, denying anyone a true majority. I really need to stop reading political news.
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Oct 23, 2014 12:36
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Suicide? More like Obamacide, according to Rep. Don Young (R-AK).quote:Asked about the “lack of support” comment, Young expanded on it and added that suicide in Alaska didn’t exist before “government largesse” gave residents an entitlement mentality, according to an audio recording of his senior center appearance. I just can't go on knowing that there's a federal bureaucracy! *shoots self*
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Oct 23, 2014 12:45
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Antti posted:Regardless the passport card is bona fide ID within the US so yes you should be able to vote with it. You might not be able to vote in EU elections with it (if you are living in an EU country), though! A valid passport is accepted ID for voting in the US now; there's no need to produce something that shows your address as well. The ID is only to show that you are who you are claiming to be.
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Oct 23, 2014 13:20
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raindrop posted:A valid passport is accepted ID for voting in the US now; there's no need to produce something that shows your address as well. The ID is only to show that you are who you are claiming to be. I imagine that would vary based on state. In Texas you definitely need an address as well.
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Oct 23, 2014 13:40
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computer parts posted:I imagine that would vary based on state. In Texas you definitely need an address as well. Is that just for when you register or for every time you vote?
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Oct 23, 2014 13:42
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raindrop posted:Is that just for when you register or for every time you vote? Last time I voted they asked me my address to confirm that it was the same as on my Driver's License.
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A passport is one of the seven valid forms of ID in Texas, along with a concealed carry permit, because of course.
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