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Rocksicles posted:The Knife blade CGI with Diggle and Shaw, was loving killing me wait, what?
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thrakkorzog posted:The sad part is that she is an ADA, and she couldn't come up with a better plan to take down a violent drunken felon with outstanding warrants leaving a bar than to hit him with a bat. (That she clearly did not know how to use.) She could have just as easily sent him to pound him in the rear end prison with a phone call, since she knew he was an alcoholic with outstanding warrants, driving away from a bar. But Laurel wasn't looking to help out the battered woman, she was looking to do some battering of her own. She's filled with burning, grief-fueled, spiraling out of control rage and it doesn't make her want to make honest arrests, it makes her want to loving rip and tear and scream. Unfortunately, giving in to that desire is pretty much the worst possible thing she can do and will most likely just feed into her anger even more. So in other words, you're 100% right, it was a completely flawed decision. One of my favorite parts of this show is probably how massively flawed the characters are.
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Sober posted:wait, what? The wide shot blade is CG. Stood out like a sore thumb to me.
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Dead Snoopy posted:Was I NOT supposed to be laughing hysterically at her failure? I love Laurel and her current arc but goddamn if that wasn't the funniest scene in the episode. Watch out Felicity, Laurel's coming after your comic relief job. fake edit: Actually maybe Felicity and Laurel could make a great comic duo, their "google his phone or something" chat was beautiful. I guess that's a good thing if Canary and Oracle have good chemistry...
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XboxPants posted:I love Laurel and her current arc but goddamn if that wasn't the funniest scene in the episode. Watch out Felicity, Laurel's coming after your comic relief job. I forgot to mention that, "google his phone" was line of the episode.  Maybe we see Felicity's legs so much, because we won't sooner or later.
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XboxPants posted:I love Laurel and her current arc but goddamn if that wasn't the funniest scene in the episode. Watch out Felicity, Laurel's coming after your comic relief job. I like the subtle "Wait are we friends?". If Felicity had just jumped Oliver once her and Laurel could have been Eskimo Sisters and got favors from each other no problem.
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Rocksicles posted:The wide shot blade is CG. Stood out like a sore thumb to me. It's a really bad fake knife, but no it's not CG.
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This was a good episode, but it was too schizophrenic. There were four separate plotlines with a flashback mixed in and it felt really jumpy. That said, most of the plots were good. Oliver and Roy reaching out to Thea was good. Felicity and Ray bounce off each other really well and Felicity trying to handle favors from everyone one (are we friends?) while talking to Ray was hilarious. Laurel failing at being a vigilante was good, but getting the pamphlet from the boxer was a little too on the nose. Still, hopefully good stuff will come out of it. The stinger was the best part. I can't wait for more Nyssa and more Oliver versus BARROWMAN!  Next week is going to be amazing.
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I thought that was a pretty awesome episode and then the ominous ending with Ray and the secret weapons tech and then BAM surprise  Katrina Law again and she's pissed.I agree that the episode felt a bit disjointed in parts (Oliver's mini-talk with Thea cutting straight into an A-Team action scene being the most obvious example) but I don't really mind with this show because I know that they're squeezing so much into every episode because they have a bunch of ridiculous stuff planned. It's not like there's a worry that we'll have the main storylines wrapped up too quickly and then we have to sit through like 8 episodes of filler before the season finale or something. Speaking of which I can't believe that that was the third episode. I realized while writing this that they have the Flash cross-over episodes this season, which are supposed to introduce the bad guy in Arrow's episode 7. That might mean that we have some of these storylines kind of accelerated a bit in order to get them resolved by episode 6 or 7, and it wouldn't surprise me if that acted as a sort of mid-season finale so that the very end of episode 7 introduces the bad guy and episodes 8 for both shows can be their own kind of mini-event. At least, I don't really see them working Barry and The Flash's storylines smoothly into this current League of Assasins/Ra's/Merlyn/Thea/Laurel situation. But who knows, it's Arrow, so maybe they'll just blast through 4 more complete story arcs for everyone before this season is over.
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VDay posted:Speaking of which I can't believe that that was the third episode. I realized while writing this that they have the Flash cross-over episodes this season, which are supposed to introduce the bad guy in Arrow's episode 7. That might mean that we have some of these storylines kind of accelerated a bit in order to get them resolved by episode 6 or 7, and it wouldn't surprise me if that acted as a sort of mid-season finale so that the very end of episode 7 introduces the bad guy and episodes 8 for both shows can be their own kind of mini-event. At least, I don't really see them working Barry and The Flash's storylines smoothly into this current League of Assasins/Ra's/Merlyn/Thea/Laurel situation. I think they've said the idea of the crossover is to have it integrated into each show's season arc, rather than to just be a standalone event.
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XboxPants posted:Thea was, of course, a total badass. The scene where Malcolm just opens up on her and starts "forging" her was classic loving Bannerman, but it was also great because you see a Thea who just moments earlier was about to start crying out of self-pity suddenly dig deep, grab a sword and get into kill-a-bitch mode. I guess Malcolm was right about her untapped strength and how to access it after all. I agree, though I did keep expecting her to say "Valar morghulis".
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At first I was disappointed that Oliver and Merlyn didn't confront each other, but that would've completely removed Thea's agency by having two dudes fight over her. Also liked how they had Roy's talk with Thea contrast Oliver's. Arrow is at its best when it reminds us that Oliver is really, really lovely at being a human being.
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One possible reason the overall plot seems to be moving faster is that we've removed Slade, Shado, and Moira's character arcs from the list of boxes to check off. With a couple less balls to juggle every week, other balls can be...uh, juggled more. edit: Oh man, I can't believe I missed the Tom Bronson name drop. Well, he'll probably end up being just be a name drop and not Ted Grant's bastard child, unless Laurel was trying to prosecute a toddler. BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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Rarity posted:I think they've said the idea of the crossover is to have it integrated into each show's season arc, rather than to just be a standalone event. They're already doing a little crossover seeing as Felicity left at the end of this week's episode to go see Barry and commercials for The Flash have her on next week's episode.
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I like how the subsequent fight scene was just Dig demolishing that guy because come on, Dig is a muscle giant. Also, anyone else notice that at one point when Felicity was on her computer there was a thing about "The Streak" from Flash?
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I'm not the only one who sees the driver leaning and starting to jump out before Diggle even reaches for him, am I?
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thrakkorzog posted:Well, Queen Consolidated started off as a multibillion dollar corporation, and the Queens owned a significant amount of stock in it. Even if the stock tanked after the events of S1, the buyout would have raised the value of Queen Consolidated shares. Seriously, writers have no idea of how corporate finance works. Didn't they say that Slade have Isabel completely gently caress over the company when she was running it, and Ollie was not pay attention to it?
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Ollies new hybrid bow btw, only $1400. I need a new feral pig killing machine. http://cponeidaeagle.com/cp_oneida_eagle_bows_012.htm
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Rocksicles posted:Ollies new hybrid bow btw, only $1400. I need a new feral pig killing machine. Have you been slapping water to prepare?
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With all of this Streak talk, I will be very disappointed if there's not at least one Flash episode where Barry accidentally runs his clothes off and has to dash through the city naked. 
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VagueRant posted:On the other hand, Diggle wrestling the guy out of a moving jeep was a beautiful stunt. Always glad when The Best Character gets to actually do something. I thought that was pretty weak. They guy starts jumping out of the jeep before Diggle even reaches in. Diggle just puts his hand on his shoulder and they both fall off the jeep. edit: Oops didn't see the new page with the gif and other people pointing this out.
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So, I'm watching this after DVR'ing it. Laurel is about to jump someone in an alley. I do not see this going well. I also am really hoping for a Oliver vs Merlyn fight before the end of the episode. Either Merlyn will do. Everything in Corto Maltese so far is great. Edit: yep, she's in the hospital now.
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Mr Beens posted:I thought that was pretty weak. It was also pretty obvious that that Jeep was moving about 3 miles an hour. Cool idea, flawed execution. It seems like theme doing all this really great stunt/fight choreography, and in Flash with great effects to match, but the cinematography or direction or something sometimes lets it down, and doesn't make the action look as good as it could. Like that weird motorcycle joust where it was hard to even keep track of who was who.
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I went back and watched some clips of season 2 (Moira's death scene and her funeral/Sebastien's induction as mayor): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGp8Xg5GsZc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Aufj61Q94 Goddamn, that was some fantastic television.  But it still breaks my heart how they hosed up Slade's arc. I know a lot of you guys defend this, but even in his darkest, most evil moment - they go out of their way to point to his Mirakuru induced hallucinations. But where they set up Roy getting redemption and forgiveness for his near-identical Mirakuru evilness, Slade just got coincidental and completely nonsensical motivations.  Neon Knight posted:I would chock this up to the fact that this seasons flashbacks are revealing Ollie has come to know a lot about how ARGUS operates overseas. I am guessing they are the type to roll in with snipers and a tactical squad (or stupid drone missiles from the Suicide Squad mission), and not just a local militia on a jeep. Neon Knight posted:Did they ever describe how Slade was super rich? Maybe Ollie is enjoying the spoils of war for defeating psycho mirakuru mercenary lord Big Boss Wilson. Hollismason posted:Also, why the gently caress Did Laura tell anyone she just assaulted some guy in a alley Mr Beens posted:I thought that was pretty weak.
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VagueRant posted:I went back and watched some clips of season 2 (Moira's death scene and her funeral/Sebastien's induction as mayor): You mean after he was cured and he still said he was going to kill them all and the fact he killed a shitload of people? Also Slade was responsible for the worst of Roys actions when he took his blood and pumped his body full of more of it.
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I thought that car stunt looked cool. It's easier to pick on when you see it looped over and over.
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I kind of hope they make Roy more and more oblivious about things as we go along. It'd give him more of a purpose in the show than to make angsty eyebrow expressions at everything.
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Amell just posted this http://comicbook.com/2014/10/23/geoff-johns-talks-dcs-live-action-tv-and-film-mutliverse-wont-ru/
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bobkatt013 posted:You mean after he was cured and he still said he was going to kill them all and the fact he killed a shitload of people? Also Slade was responsible for the worst of Roys actions when he took his blood and pumped his body full of more of it. Yeah, I'm glad Slade didn't get any redemption. I hated Slade. Hated hated hated him (like I was probably supposed to). I was so loving glad when Ollie kicked his rear end. Dude was a psychotic alpha-male douchebag who got so hung up over some girl that didn't love him back that he went on a murderous city-destroying rampage to "avenge" her. What a dick.
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Finally got around to watching the series since it was talked about a bunch in the AoS thread, and I think Arrow is my current favorite thing on TV. The Flash is also cool too. And that's my Arrow story.
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Rocksicles posted:Amell just posted this Nah man gently caress that, keep the TV universe separate from the eventual trainwreck that is going to be the film universe.
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Captain Mog posted:Yeah, I'm glad Slade didn't get any redemption. I hated Slade. Hated hated hated him (like I was probably supposed to). I was so loving glad when Ollie kicked his rear end. Dude was a psychotic alpha-male douchebag who got so hung up over some girl that didn't love him back that he went on a murderous city-destroying rampage to "avenge" her. What a dick. To be fair the Mirakuru made him a bit crazy.
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Holy poo poo, OMACs? On this show?  Scyantific posted:Nah man gently caress that, keep the TV universe separate from the eventual trainwreck that is going to be the film universe. They are, I assume he's just talking about some "Crisis on Infinite Earths" type of crossover, where multiverses meet and team up. I remember reading the word "Crisis" over on the Flash show already...
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Neon Knight posted:Did they ever describe how Slade was super rich? Maybe Ollie is enjoying the spoils of war for defeating psycho mirakuru mercenary lord Big Boss Wilson. Besides the merc stuff, he also presumably has Isabel investing for him.
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