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zoux posted:So the leaked trailer made me wonder: has Hulkbuster armor ever worked? It always makes fans go, "Oooooh! The Hulkbuster! Now things are going to get real!" That's a kind of working, I guess.
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Random Stranger posted:It always makes fans go, "Oooooh! The Hulkbuster! Now things are going to get real!" That's a kind of working, I guess. The last time I can remember he busted it out was during WWH and he got whooped bad. Have Hulkbuster SHIELD teams ever worked vs. the Hulk?
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Oct 23, 2014 16:02
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Bear in mind the Hulkbuster armor used in World War Hulk was sabotaged by HYDRA before Iron Man's fight with the Hulk; he didn't have any of the power-dampening technology he was supposed to have (and had previously depowered She-Hulk, so it was even field-tested). He was stuck firing blanks, essentially.
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Oct 23, 2014 16:41
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Bear in mind the Hulkbuster armor used in World War Hulk was sabotaged by HYDRA before Iron Man's fight with the Hulk; he didn't have any of the power-dampening technology he was supposed to have (and had previously depowered She-Hulk, so it was even field-tested). He was stuck firing blanks, essentially. Was that in one of the tie ins because I don't remember that at all.
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Oct 23, 2014 16:47
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Bear in mind the Hulkbuster armor used in World War Hulk was sabotaged by HYDRA before Iron Man's fight with the Hulk; he didn't have any of the power-dampening technology he was supposed to have (and had previously depowered She-Hulk, so it was even field-tested). He was stuck firing blanks, essentially. Also Hulk was at the strongest he has ever been, so the Hulkbuster might have worked before but in this situation he was hosed.
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Oct 23, 2014 16:48
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bobkatt013 posted:Also Hulk was at the strongest he has ever been, so the Hulkbuster might have worked before but in this situation he was hosed. It would have been even better if Stark had had all his special ammo and still gotten his rear end beat down.
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Oct 23, 2014 16:51
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Hulkbuster armor basically can't work, because it's only ever going to be as strong as Tony built it to be, and Hulk's response to any amount of strength is to get mad at it until he's stronger. But, y'know, go tell Tony Stark that some problems can't be solved by building Iron Man suits at them, see how that goes.
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Oct 23, 2014 17:22
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It can work if you're trying to slow Hulk down or contain him, but it suffers the same problem as anybody else going up against him.
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Oct 23, 2014 17:25
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zoux posted:Was that in one of the tie ins because I don't remember that at all. It was in Avengers: the Initiative; Hardball stole some of the SPIN technology for HYDRA. If memory serves, in World War Hulk you see Iron Man try and use the tech, only to be surprised when it doesn't work.
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Oct 23, 2014 17:42
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I do seem to remember that. The Initiative tie-in for World War Hulk is the only one I remember with any fondness.
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Oct 23, 2014 18:29
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It can work if you're trying to slow Hulk down or contain him, but it suffers the same problem as anybody else going up against him. It seems like the ideal use of it would be like how Batman uses the suit against Superman in TDKR, but I never see Tony do that much planning. He always gets caught up in the brawl.
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Oct 23, 2014 19:39
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Ror posted:It seems like the ideal use of it would be like how Batman uses the suit against Superman in TDKR Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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Oct 23, 2014 19:40
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The very first time the Hulkbuster suit ever showed up was was in an Ironman two parter. And in that one, the armour does well against the Hulk (basically they are shown being well matched.) Funnily enough at no stage in that story is the suit ever called Hulkbuster, just a heavy duty exo-armour. In all other fights against Hulk it hasn't done well. But the amour did show up in Knuff's run on Iron-Man after he got the Extremis upgrade. Basically the Hulkbuster suit was hyjacked and sent to kill the Avengers. It wrecked the Avenger's team and only Ironman was able to stop the suit from killing Captain America. In a tragic state of affairs, Ironman has never said the lines "Who are you Gonna' call" or "I aint afraid of No Hulks" while wearing this armour in 616 continuity.
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Oct 23, 2014 19:54
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It's really strange how most people remember that fight as "Batman won".
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Oct 23, 2014 19:54
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Lurdiak posted:It's really strange how most people remember that fight as "Batman won".
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redbackground posted:I count every day I'm not killed by an extraterrestrial a victory. If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.
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Oct 23, 2014 20:08
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redbackground posted:I count every day I'm not killed by an extraterrestrial a victory. Lex was Right
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The Question IRL posted:In a tragic state of affairs, Ironman has never said the lines "Who are you Gonna' call" or "I aint afraid of No Hulks" while wearing this armour in 616 continuity.  (IIRC, this was the first time they actually used Hulkbusters in the comics, too...)
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Oct 23, 2014 20:27
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I mean technically his plan went off without a hitch, he just didn't plan on winning that fight. 
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Oct 23, 2014 20:27
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It's like the spear throw in 300.
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Oct 23, 2014 20:44
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zoux posted:The last time I can remember he busted it out was during WWH and he got whooped bad. Have Hulkbuster SHIELD teams ever worked vs. the Hulk? Have SHIELD teams ever worked against anything? I mean, maybe if Nick Fury is leading them personally or something, but let's be real, SHIELD and HYDRA are totally suited to be eternal enemies because both consist entirely of a few memorable characters behind an army of redshirts that do nothing but get owned in every one of their appearances.
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Oct 23, 2014 21:42
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A pyrrhic victory still has the word "victory" in it 
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Oct 23, 2014 21:43
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Why doesn't he always use the Hulkbuster for everything ever.
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Oct 23, 2014 22:08
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Hes trying to reduce his carbon footprint. Think global, act local.
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Chinaman7000 posted:Why doesn't he always use the Hulkbuster for everything ever. You can't perform brain surgery with a chainsaw.
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Lurdiak posted:You can't perform brain surgery with a chainsaw. See, you say 'can't'....
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Oct 23, 2014 22:23
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Dr. Doom did, on the Hulk, and the chainsaws were adamantium.
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Oct 23, 2014 22:28
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TwoPair posted:Have SHIELD teams ever worked against anything? I mean, maybe if Nick Fury is leading them personally or something, but let's be real, SHIELD and HYDRA are totally suited to be eternal enemies because both consist entirely of a few memorable characters behind an army of redshirts that do nothing but get owned in every one of their appearances. The end to Zero Tolerance, and the defeat of Bastion, boiled down to "and then SHIELD shows up, and Bastion is hosed". It happens occasionally, just not very often.
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Oct 23, 2014 22:33
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CzarChasm posted:In a What If from when he first joined the X-men he was secretly working for Magneto. In the end he double crosses Mags, and Magneto, in a fit of murderous rage, pops Wolverine's claws and has Wolverine decapitate himself. He didn't survive that one. Not quite. Magneto only made him cut his own throat up (coincidentally the same way Wolverine killed Hulk in the beginning of the issue). Wolverine was still able to have some dying words to Jean before going out. This was the early 80's, long before the power creep.
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Oct 23, 2014 22:48
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Chinaman7000 posted:Why doesn't he always use the Hulkbuster for everything ever. Tony doesn't want people thinking he looks fat.
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zoux posted:So the leaked trailer made me wonder: has Hulkbuster armor ever worked? It's worked about as well as everything else that goes up against the Hulk.
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Has Reed Richards ever been a herald of Galactus? What Ifs count.
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Schneider Heim posted:Has Reed Richards ever been a herald of Galactus? What Ifs count. I'm going to count Earth X even though it's not what you meant
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Opopanax posted:I'm going to count Earth X even though it's not what you meant That's fine. I was reading Secret Wars and it touched on Reed's relationship with Galactus so I wonder if that sort of thing happened anywhere, and how did it go.
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Schneider Heim posted:That's fine. I was reading Secret Wars and it touched on Reed's relationship with Galactus so I wonder if that sort of thing happened anywhere, and how did it go. The best is Reed's son's herald.
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Come to me my Galactus. Hickman FF is like, absurdly good.
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zoux posted:Come to me my Galactus. I always wonder at what point he had that idea. Future Franklin comes in fairly early as a weird voice in the corner, but the whole "Franklin Richards only had one herald" was that always part of the plan, or something Hickman came up with after the ball started rolling.
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Hickman doesn't seem like the type to shoot from the hip, I imagine it was mostly planned out early on
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Schneider Heim posted:Has Reed Richards ever been a herald of Galactus? What Ifs count. Sort of. There's an issue What If the Silver Surfer Had Not Betrayed Galactus, where Surfer yoinks the Ultimate Nullifier out of Reed's hands. The Avengers show up, get absolutely stomped and Galactus feasts on Earth. The only survivors are the Fantastic Four, Alicia, Wasp and Dr. Doom. Doom tries to steal Surfer's powers, but they end up destroying each other. Reed gets his hands on the Nullifier again and gets in Galactus' face, this time loving pissed off and ready to use it simply out of vengeance. But he can't bring himself to do it and surrenders it. Galactus decides that he's misjudged those on the planets he feeds from, based on Reed's wisdom and the fact that he had the drop on him twice. The Fantastic Four, Alicia and Wasp seek out uninhabited worlds for Galactus to feast on, while trying to help him reconnect with his lost humanity. So he's a herald, but not in the shiny, cosmic sense.
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Any good comics podcasts to look out for? I'm looking for more in the conversational vein, rather than interview-types like Kieron Gillen's where he just interviews creators about their latest product.
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