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100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
The clients of my company are often bad with money.

We sell point of sale computers that people can walk up to and make purchases on, for like company break rooms. We have a couple places with chronic network issues that stop the credit card transactions from batching out at midnight like they are supposed to. Some of these locations haven't processed their transactions in nearly a month, and they don't bother to fix anything even though this is probably actively costing them money and people will freak out when all these transactions clear, finally a month later.

That makes me wonder. Is there any kind of limit on how long a company can sit on your unprocessed credit card transaction before they're not allowed to process it because it's been too long?

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BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo
I don't know, but I was recently charged for a glass of wine I bought on a United flight in like June. It confused the hell out of me when I saw the charge, I thought my card might have been stolen. It also took forever to confirm with United that it was a legit purchase from months and months ago.

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

Harton posted:

Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt!

I'm bad with money. I bought a boat and a truck to haul it in the same weekend.

That's only bad with money if you bought them both on credit.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

Barry posted:

That might be bad with money but it's good with life. Maximize the time you have spending it on things you enjoy doing. He has identified what he enjoys in life and is going out of his way to make sure that he can do it as much as possible. A job is a means to an end and all that poo poo.

Sorta. You're not wrong. Your work should absolutely be a means to an end. But since he works for minimum wage at a grocery store now he can't afford to do anything with his friends, visit his girlfriend who lives in Canada (we live in the U.S.), or buy himself any of the nice larp stuff he wants. He has student loans and other bills to pay so he can't be having much left over. If he applied himself even just a little he could easily get a job in a bank since I've offered to hook him up or do entry level tech work (which he has experience in), work a regular 9-5 schedule, and still have plenty of time to larp.

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Nail Rat posted:

That's only bad with money if you bought them both on credit.

Well buying a boat in general is bad with money lol. But I paid cash for the boat and took a loan for the truck. I needed a vehicle anyway because I had been without one for over a year because my fiancé has a company car she uses for work. So I would just drive her Honda to work. But they started getting more strict on the company car mileage so it because too much of a hassle anytime we wanted to do something separate from each other on the weekend. We both absolutely love the boat and water skiing and wakeboarding so I think it was worth it overall. We're excited to have kids after the wedding and raise them boating.

seacat
Dec 9, 2006

Harton posted:

Well buying a boat in general is bad with money lol.

Hahaha, two quotes I remember overhearing on that topic:
"The two greatest days in your life are the day you buy a boat and the day you sell it"
"It's a giant loving sinkhole that you keep dumping money into until you get rid of it"

My wife fishes a lot and wants to get one someday. I love doing maintenance so I support the idea as long as we can afford it.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
Just buy a canoe on craigslist.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

seacat posted:

Hahaha, two quotes I remember overhearing on that topic:
"The two greatest days in your life are the day you buy a boat and the day you sell it"
"It's a giant loving sinkhole that you keep dumping money into until you get rid of it"

My wife fishes a lot and wants to get one someday. I love doing maintenance so I support the idea as long as we can afford it.

I think it was earlier in this thread that someone posted their uncle's take on owning a sailboat which was something to the effect of the ownership experience being easily replicated by standing in a cold shower and ripping up hundred dollar bills.

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Can't waterski behind a canoe. As long as you use it, a boat is an awesome thing to have. Too many people buy them and hardly use them and that's why they get a bad rap. I make it out at least once a week in the summer. Nothing like being anchored off in Lake Michigan drinking beers looking at the Chicago skyline.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Is leasing a boat for a season a thing one can do? I don't think I'd ever buy a boat but I'd lease/rent one for a summer.

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Depending on the lake you can rent a boat for a day or up to a week or
Two. But I don't think you can lease one, I've never looked into it though. Before I bought mine I would rent them from time to time when I was vacationing. That's a good way to see if your gonna love it or not. I just love being on the water, it's the most relaxing thing in the world.

GanjamonII
Mar 24, 2001
You can join a group where you pay a fixed monthly fee, and get a certain amount of use out of the boat. The price depends, where I'm at its from ~300 to get a share in a small powerboat up to several hundred or probably even thousands for a larger boat. I haven't really looked into it too much but they definitely exist. There's also instances on craigslist of people selling a share of a boat they already own which may be another way to do it too.

I've thought about getting an older sailboat and keeping it in the free anchorage near the marina where a buddies family keeps their boat. Quitting my job and sailing off to the Caribbean for a few months sounds awesome.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe
I've thought about getting a cabin cruiser or similar but after talking with one of my multi-millionaire clients I realised I'd be better off renting a boat when I want one. That or go on a cruise ship.
http://www.motorheadcruise.com/

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal

SarutosZero posted:

Sorta. You're not wrong. Your work should absolutely be a means to an end. But since he works for minimum wage at a grocery store now he can't afford to do anything with his friends, visit his girlfriend who lives in Canada (we live in the U.S.), or buy himself any of the nice larp stuff he wants. He has student loans and other bills to pay so he can't be having much left over. If he applied himself even just a little he could easily get a job in a bank since I've offered to hook him up or do entry level tech work (which he has experience in), work a regular 9-5 schedule, and still have plenty of time to larp.

Yeah I mean if you're totally sacrificing everything else in your life in order to just LARP more, that might be a bit much, but who am I to judge. But taking a comparable job (even if there's less hours/money) to free up your weekends to do what you love is pretty alright in my book.

That being said, he probably should apply himself and get a higher paying 9-5 for the extra income and free weekends.

moana
Jun 18, 2005

one of the more intellectual satire communities on the web
My bank is bad with money. Went to the Chase branch because I got paid my royalties from Amazon in check form. One of the checks was from Amazon.co.uk, so of course it's in pounds.

I hand the check to the guy and he looks at it like it's moon money. I'm like "It's in pounds."
"So, it's foreign?"
"Yeah."
He then calls two other tellers over to look at the check.
"Is this pounds or euros?" he asks them.
"It's pounds," I say. "You see the pound symbol?"
"That's not one of the accepted currencies," he says. "We could take it if it was in euros."
They then spend five minutes scrolling down some screen. "Do you see it anywhere here?"
"GBP?" I ask, trying to be helpful.
"What?"
"Maybe it says GBP on there."
"Why would it say that?"
"Because... that is pounds?"
"It's not there. Are you sure it's not Euros?"

:ughh:

took me a half hour and four tellers to deposit this check. WTG Chase!

Saeku
Sep 22, 2010
I asked my bank to open a savings account to park my tuition money in for a few months, and they tried to set up an RRSP and put the money into it :psyduck:

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


100 HOGS AGREE posted:

That makes me wonder. Is there any kind of limit on how long a company can sit on your unprocessed credit card transaction before they're not allowed to process it because it's been too long?

A class ring I bought took 2 years to show up on my statement. If it had gone through just a week later the card would have been expired and I don't know what would have happened then.

It stung a little bit but I sucked it up because it was money I owed.

In bad with money commentary, someone today told me about a coworker of his who rolled his expensive 2-year-old-truck debt into some expensive-new-truck debt because, according to said coworker, "if you keep consolidating car loans you'll get smaller monthly payments and can start to build equity in your truck"

:stonk:

seacat
Dec 9, 2006

Guest2553 posted:

"build equity in your truck"

:stonk:

There's been a lot but I seriously think this wins the thread.

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

Guest2553 posted:


In bad with money commentary, someone today told me about a coworker of his who rolled his expensive 2-year-old-truck debt into some expensive-new-truck debt because, according to said coworker, "if you keep consolidating car loans you'll get smaller monthly payments and can start to build equity in your truck"

:stonk:



Wrap it, boys. Thread is over. We've reached peak bad with money.

Rick Rickshaw
Feb 21, 2007

I am not disappointed I lost the PGA Championship. Nope, I am not.

Guest2553 posted:

"build equity in your truck"

:stonk:

:eek:

I've heard of a lot of people rolling car loans into more car loans ("my monthly payment is the same and I have a new car!"), but never once have I heard of someone doing it to build equity in their vehicle.

Good lord. There are no words. The amount of schadenfreude in that statement is reaching critical mass.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

How on earth do people not know what pounds are. US$/€/£ are like the big three currencies.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
¥ is probably more relevant than £ at this point

Mantle
May 15, 2004

My local gas station is bad with money. In my province customers must prepay for gas at the pump. Apparently when you swipe your credit card, a hold is put on the card for $125 regardless of the amount of gas purchased.

And when that credit card limit has less than $125 available, the hold is rejected but the pump still dispenses gas, resulting in free gas.

I discovered this when I then tried to use my card for a small purchase later in the day and was rejected for exceeding the limit, even though I should have had enough room available based on the amount of gas actually purchased.

That's what those greedy oil companies get for holding more money than they need!

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe

Guinness posted:



Wrap it, boys. Thread is over. We've reached peak bad with money.

I had to search and see how many references there are to equity in vehicles. The majority of the results relate to car leasing and lease to buy arrangements. Only one related to building equity that made sense to me was in relation to actual commercial trucks that you'd use for hauling trailers.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Jeffrey posted:

¥ is probably more relevant than £ at this point

You mean ฿itcoins, right?

Buttcoins are truly the worst with money thing I've witnessed in my life. People are all scamming each other left and right, and every single person is secretly hoping that they aren't the bagholders when the whole thing implodes upon itself.

Nocheez fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Oct 24, 2014

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

Devian666 posted:

I had to search and see how many references there are to equity in vehicles. The majority of the results relate to car leasing and lease to buy arrangements. Only one related to building equity that made sense to me was in relation to actual commercial trucks that you'd use for hauling trailers.

Yeah and you can sleep/live in those. A good one practically is a business property.

But that loan guy :staredog:

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Mantle posted:

My local gas station is bad with money. In my province customers must prepay for gas at the pump. Apparently when you swipe your credit card, a hold is put on the card for $125 regardless of the amount of gas purchased.

And when that credit card limit has less than $125 available, the hold is rejected but the pump still dispenses gas, resulting in free gas.

I discovered this when I then tried to use my card for a small purchase later in the day and was rejected for exceeding the limit, even though I should have had enough room available based on the amount of gas actually purchased.

That's what those greedy oil companies get for holding more money than they need!

A) putting holds of like $100 at the gas station on your card is super common, I'm surprised you never saw this before.

B) "I don't see a bill, so I guess it's free! :hurr:" Congrats on stealing gas I guess, if you weren't actually charged.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

Volmarias posted:

A) putting holds of like $100 at the gas station on your card is super common, I'm surprised you never saw this before.

B) "I don't see a bill, so I guess it's free! :hurr:" Congrats on stealing gas I guess, if you weren't actually charged.

How can it be stealing if there was no intent? I gave them the authorization to charge me but then they didn't submit the proper paperwork to their payment processor. Them not getting paid has nothing to do with me.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

Mantle posted:

How can it be stealing if there was no intent? I gave them the authorization to charge me but then they didn't submit the proper paperwork to their payment processor. Them not getting paid has nothing to do with me.

"Them not getting paid for the goods I agreed to pay for has nothing to do with me." LOL, until that charge eventually goes through and screws you because you thought you'd gotten off scott free. Then you'll be paying fees for going over your limit + increased interests rates for the same.

Aaronicon
Oct 2, 2010

A BLOO BLOO ANYONE I DISAGREE WITH IS A "BAD PERSON" WHO DESERVES TO DIE PLEEEASE DONT FALL ALL OVER YOURSELF WHITEWASHING THEM A BLOO BLOO
It's an honest mistake the first time, maybe, but if they've gone back and done it after realising what had happened, yeah that's stealing.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

RandomBlue posted:

"Them not getting paid for the goods I agreed to pay for has nothing to do with me." LOL, until that charge eventually goes through and screws you because you thought you'd gotten off scott free. Then you'll be paying fees for going over your limit + increased interests rates for the same.

What world do you live in where it is not only possible for you to exceed your credit card limit, but where you would be penalized for doing so? All my credit card companies are ASKING me to increase my limits.

MJBuddy
Sep 22, 2008

Now I do not know whether I was then a head coach dreaming I was a Saints fan, or whether I am now a Saints fan, dreaming I am a head coach.

Mantle posted:

What world do you live in where it is not only possible for you to exceed your credit card limit, but where you would be penalized for doing so? All my credit card companies are ASKING me to increase my limits.

Asking? I just get letters in the mail telling me I have more credit now. Usually it's whenever I actually get in the universe of my limit in a month (so like every single month with my first card and once with my second after I bought all the furniture in my house and my TV with it when moving).

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

Mantle posted:

What world do you live in where it is not only possible for you to exceed your credit card limit, but where you would be penalized for doing so? All my credit card companies are ASKING me to increase my limits.

Probably the world where some guy couldn't get $125 approved/held against his limit for some reason. I believe that guy was you. I've never had the over the limit fees applied to me, but apparently unlike yourself, I read the CC agreements I sign and know what's in them.

If buying gas on your CC is declined or puts you over the limit, $125 held or not, you're bad with money.

particle409
Jan 15, 2008

Thou bootless clapper-clawed varlot!

GanjamonII posted:

You can join a group where you pay a fixed monthly fee, and get a certain amount of use out of the boat. The price depends, where I'm at its from ~300 to get a share in a small powerboat up to several hundred or probably even thousands for a larger boat. I haven't really looked into it too much but they definitely exist. There's also instances on craigslist of people selling a share of a boat they already own which may be another way to do it too.

I've thought about getting an older sailboat and keeping it in the free anchorage near the marina where a buddies family keeps their boat. Quitting my job and sailing off to the Caribbean for a few months sounds awesome.

Awesome, I was looking for the financial burden of a timeshare and a boat rolled into one. Maybe I can pay for it with a student loan.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

RandomBlue posted:

Probably the world where some guy couldn't get $125 approved/held against his limit for some reason. I believe that guy was you. I've never had the over the limit fees applied to me, but apparently unlike yourself, I read the CC agreements I sign and know what's in them.

If buying gas on your CC is declined or puts you over the limit, $125 held or not, you're bad with money.

There is nothing "bad with money" about hitting the limit on a credit card like mine that doesn't charge overage fees. If it happens I just pay for stuff I need by another method. Sounds like you just didn't like my story of getting free gas.

Sorry, but it happened and it doesn't make me bad with money just cause it offends your morals.

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.

particle409 posted:

Awesome, I was looking for the financial burden of a timeshare and a boat rolled into one. Maybe I can pay for it with a student loan.

Make sure you get the furniture rent to own, with the initial deposit coming from a payday loan.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Mantle posted:

There is nothing "bad with money" about hitting the limit on a credit card

I'm pretty sure there absolutely is.

Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX

blugu64 posted:

I'm pretty sure there absolutely is.

Uh, no, there's not. Spending money is not inherently being bad with money, as difficult as that might be for you to understand.

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

True, if you're paying it off every month. I dunno if you've got low limit cards or what, but it is pretty bad for your credit score.

If you're maxing out your card and paying it off every month, chances are you qualify for a higher limit/better rewards card that you should use instead.

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LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

Not a Children posted:

True, if you're paying it off every month. I dunno if you've got low limit cards or what, but it is pretty bad for your credit score.

If you're maxing out your card and paying it off every month, chances are you qualify for a higher limit/better rewards card that you should use instead.

If you have a low limit card and some other higher limit cards, and you are maxing out the low limit card, it will have no effect on your credit score, and will probably be a new positive overall.

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