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I can't find the post I was looking for but someone brought up Batman's straight on fighting style in TDKR as opposed to the stealthy ninja style moves he used in the other movies. I always just chalked that up to the long layoff. Bruce didn't exactly look like he was training every day and staying sharp.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 11:58 |
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He explicitly gets called out for trying to slug it out like a younger man. That complaint always struck me as really weird.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 12:45 |
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The thing that bugs me about Nolan's Batman movies is that Bruce spends a year fighting crime as Batman for like, a year and a half at the most. There's only about a year between BB and TDK as Joker says. He then goes into hiding/retirement at the end of The Dark Knight and TDKR is like 8 years later. In the near-decade timeframe the Batman movies cover, Batman is barely Batman in it.
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Away all Goats posted:The thing that bugs me about Nolan's Batman movies is that Bruce spends a year fighting crime as Batman for like, a year and a half at the most. There's only about a year between BB and TDK as Joker says. He then goes into hiding/retirement at the end of The Dark Knight and TDKR is like 8 years later. In the near-decade timeframe the Batman movies cover, Batman is barely Batman in it. It kind of works in the films. The justification being that with Dent as a symbol people would rally and clean up the city in a way that Batman couldn't.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 13:16 |
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Away all Goats posted:The thing that bugs me about Nolan's Batman movies is that Bruce spends a year fighting crime as Batman for like, a year and a half at the most. There's only about a year between BB and TDK as Joker says. He then goes into hiding/retirement at the end of The Dark Knight and TDKR is like 8 years later. In the near-decade timeframe the Batman movies cover, Batman is barely Batman in it. Batman works because he makes himself a myth figure; not seeing him but knowing he's out there is more effective than seeing him every day.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 13:54 |
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I also wouldn't say it was directly after the end of TDK that he goes into hiding, they just say it was after the Dent Act gets passed which let them do the whole indefinite detention for mobsters thing.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 15:48 |
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muscles like this? posted:I also wouldn't say it was directly after the end of TDK that he goes into hiding, they just say it was after the Dent Act gets passed which let them do the whole indefinite detention for mobsters thing. It appears that the 4th amendment is very different in the Nolan-verse.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 16:22 |
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It's the theory of
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 16:32 |
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DrBouvenstein posted:It appears that the 4th amendment is very different in the Nolan-verse. Well, that was definitely on purpose since it's what caused Gordon to become disillusioned.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 17:22 |
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I agree with Away All Goats. I know it's because they wanted Dent as a symbol, Batman as a myth and all that but it doesn't feel satisfying. It's hard to explain.
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Gaunab posted:I agree with Away All Goats. I know it's because they wanted Dent as a symbol, Batman as a myth and all that but it doesn't feel satisfying. It's hard to explain. Was it because they did more telling than showing?
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 17:52 |
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In an old Star Trek episode Abraham Lincoln appears in space for some reason. He asks Captain Kirk whether they still use minutes and seconds to measure time, and Kirk replies: "No, but we can convert." Later in the episode Kirk says some crazy space distance and it's in miles. So in the future seconds are out but miles are in? Bullshit.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 18:11 |
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Ways The Dark Knight Rises could have been better in hindsight:
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I'm watching TDKR for the second time right now, and it's funny how Bane's speech changes in the middle of the loving scene because they obviously had to dub/ADR some of it. But I think that was prominent in TDK as well. Every main character should have been given strange voices just to keep things consistent. Definitely agree on no. 3 and 4. I can forgive Nolan for his giant plot holes because that's sort of expected by now, but technical stuff is just jarring.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 18:40 |
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Well, it would've been fine, but then Bale got annoyed with some guy and started messing with his lights...
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 18:59 |
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Ways The Dark Knight Rises could have been better in hindsight: Burn the film and start over would be my suggestion.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 22:38 |
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To this day I don't understand what Bane says during the football stadium scene. Then again that scene is so goofy maybe it should have been left out.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 22:59 |
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Bane's voice in that movie is so drat stupid. God it's so stupid.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 23:01 |
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Everytime anyone tries to do the Bane voice, it just comes across as Sean Connery to me.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 23:03 |
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Tom Hardy had three backup accents. One was Elmer Fudd but the director binned 'Goffams weckoning'.
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# ? Oct 22, 2014 23:23 |
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I have not seen TDKR, but I'm starting to think I should just so I can understand what people mean by things like "the Bane voice." I get the feeling it's going to be a joke/complaint for a while.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 01:05 |
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Lotish posted:I have not seen TDKR, but I'm starting to think I should just so I can understand what people mean by things like "the Bane voice." I get the feeling it's going to be a joke/complaint for a while. Have you played Diablo? He sounds like younger Deckard Cain when he says "Stay a while and listen"
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 01:11 |
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KoB posted:Have you played Diablo? He sounds like younger Deckard Cain when he says "Stay a while and listen" I am so glad I'm not the only one who thought so. Why does Bane sound like an old, upbeat Irish/Scottish/Welsh man? That's the kind of voice you expect from someone handing out caramels at the old folks' home.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 01:16 |
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They should have done something like the Hush storyline for TDKR. It could have been a story that focused on Bruce/Batman and could have displayed batman's detective skills while he's trying to find out who's sabotaging his life. They could even play off the public's attitude on Batman and still fit Talia in it.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 07:39 |
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KoB posted:Have you played Diablo? He sounds like younger Deckard Cain when he says "Stay a while and listen" This is spot-on. Younger, and with some croaky-ness to it, and some Darth Vader breathing.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 07:43 |
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I still think it's weird to have a movie about Bane and ignore the whole venom thing. I get that super muscle juice is pretty out there, but it's not really any worse than fear gas.
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Dr_Amazing posted:I still think it's weird to have a movie about Bane and ignore the whole venom thing. I get that super muscle juice is pretty out there, but it's not really any worse than fear gas. DC just can't handle how loving dumb comic books are and desperately tries to be gritty and realistic. I'm really curious how far they are taking this. Will someone finally get his arm ripped off like in every DC comic in the last year? How will they grit up Wonder Woman? Does the golden lasso decapitate everyone and the invisible plane carry Amazonian nukes?
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Dr_Amazing posted:I still think it's weird to have a movie about Bane and ignore the whole venom thing. I get that super muscle juice is pretty out there, but it's not really any worse than fear gas. They could have spun it into a steroids kind of thing. Which wouldn't even be out of line with reality, considering Tom Hardy
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 09:30 |
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Lotish posted:I have not seen TDKR, but I'm starting to think I should just so I can understand what people mean by things like "the Bane voice." I get the feeling it's going to be a joke/complaint for a while. It sounds a bit like Doctor Robotnik in the Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons, but more sleepy and less excited about everything.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 11:45 |
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Shai-Hulud posted:DC just can't handle how loving dumb comic books are and desperately tries to be gritty and realistic. I'm really curious how far they are taking this. Will someone finally get his arm ripped off like in every DC comic in the last year? They had her torture suspects for information, then go mope about how she has no Facebook friends.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 14:30 |
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Shai-Hulud posted:DC just can't handle how loving dumb comic books are and desperately tries to be gritty and realistic. I'm really curious how far they are taking this. Will someone finally get his arm ripped off like in every DC comic in the last year? The made all the amazons in to rapists and baby killers.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 19:36 |
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bobkatt013 posted:The made all the amazons in to rapists and baby killers. I looked up New 52 Wonder Woman on wikipedia and you aren't even joking.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 19:53 |
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Aleph Null posted:
Funny enough other than that its the best Wonder Women run they have had in years.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 20:05 |
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muscles like this? posted:A really stupid thing about Enemy of the State is the lingerie store where they just have models walk around in underwear. There are much stupider things than that in that movie.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 20:28 |
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Screaming Idiot posted:I am so glad I'm not the only one who thought so. Why does Bane sound like an old, upbeat Irish/Scottish/Welsh man? That's the kind of voice you expect from someone handing out caramels at the old folks' home. It was actually based on Bartley Gorman, a gypsy bare-knuckle boxing champion. Adding to the Nolan-dubs, the opening heist in Dark Knight just sounds straight up weird. All the masked robbers are dubbed over and it sounds like they're reading their lines with no context.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 22:30 |
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I enjoyed Lucy. It was fun It went full Akira and I appreciated that.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 22:32 |
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Shai-Hulud posted:DC just can't handle how loving dumb comic books are and desperately tries to be gritty and realistic. I'm really curious how far they are taking this. Will someone finally get his arm ripped off like in every DC comic in the last year? What's weird is that what little I've seen of their recent tv shows (Arrow, Flash and even Gotham, especially in the latest episode) they've decided to stop resisting and just embrace the utter lunacy of the source material (Gorilla Grodd ). The shows aren't great by any means, in fact they're pretty actively terrible in a lot of regards, but at least they don't seem to be embarrassed about where they come from.
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 22:41 |
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It took a long goddamn time for Arrow to have and loving humor about itself. Also, Solomon Grundy is just a strong guy in a black mask? That worse than Black Canary not having sonic powers. Those little disks don't count. The Flash has actual super powers, why can't she?
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# ? Oct 23, 2014 23:29 |
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Lotish posted:I have not seen TDKR, but I'm starting to think I should just so I can understand what people mean by things like "the Bane voice." I get the feeling it's going to be a joke/complaint for a while. Basically it sounded like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i61aSmql7a8
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Inzombiac posted:It took a long goddamn time for Arrow to have and loving humor about itself. I'm only early into season 2 but I thought the show was really funny... was that not intentional?
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