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Opopanax posted:That was kind of part of it, though. That conversation he has with The Other makes it pretty clear that he's desperate and Thanos is calling the shots Oh, I can understand that the true villains were meant to be The Other's army (With Thanos in the background), but I guess Loki getting poo poo on constantly kind of annoyed me. If it was just the Hulk scene it'd be okay, but it was him getting poo poo on by the Other, getting tricked by Widow, catching the arrow and having it blow up in his face AND get knocked around by Hulk. It felt like he was more of a comedic bumbler than an actual villain. I know the end was supposed to just be the Avengers finally coming together and ruining the enemy's poo poo, but the villain was probably one of the weakest points of the film for me
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Guardians of the Galaxy was the feel-good hit of the summer. I am glad when a movie has an uplifting message that makes you feel like maybe good can prevail.
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The one thing I don't like in the trailer (on further reflection) was ironically one of the things that got me hyped just to see: the Hulkbuster. Just because gently caress, we already had a scene of "Hulk goes nuts" in the first Avengers and I don't want to waste screen time with hero v. hero fights when I could be getting actual plot and/or hero v. villain fights.
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Oct 24, 2014 04:32
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OldTennisCourt posted:I think my favorite shot of the trailer is that weirdly busted up creepy looking proto-Ultron walking in all stiffly and just crushing that helmet/robot head.
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Oct 24, 2014 04:40
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TwoPair posted:The one thing I don't like in the trailer (on further reflection) was ironically one of the things that got me hyped just to see: the Hulkbuster. Just because gently caress, we already had a scene of "Hulk goes nuts" in the first Avengers and I don't want to waste screen time with hero v. hero fights when I could be getting actual plot and/or hero v. villain fights. Look man fighting the Hulk is just something heroes have to do regularly.
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Oct 24, 2014 04:45
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TwoPair posted:The one thing I don't like in the trailer (on further reflection) was ironically one of the things that got me hyped just to see: the Hulkbuster. Just because gently caress, we already had a scene of "Hulk goes nuts" in the first Avengers and I don't want to waste screen time with hero v. hero fights when I could be getting actual plot and/or hero v. villain fights. There's always the possibility the Hulkbuster isn't being controlled by Tony.
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Oct 24, 2014 04:54
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thenakedflip posted:There's always the possibility the Hulkbuster isn't being controlled by Tony. It seems remarkably unlikely considering we see Iron Man suiting up inside the Hulkbuster.
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Oct 24, 2014 04:59
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ImpAtom posted:It seems remarkably unlikely considering we see Iron Man suiting up inside the Hulkbuster. We also see Ultron controlling his armor in the very same trailer??
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Oct 24, 2014 05:03
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Away all Goats posted:We also see Ultron controlling his armor in the very same trailer?? It seems really unlikely they would have Ultron controlling the Iron Man suit and then controlling the Hulkbuster inside from inside the Iron Man suit with a dramatic 'suiting up' pose.
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Oct 24, 2014 05:05
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ImpAtom posted:It seems really unlikely they would have Ultron controlling the Iron Man suit and then controlling the Hulkbuster inside from inside the Iron Man suit with a dramatic 'suiting up' pose.
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Oct 24, 2014 05:07
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ImpAtom posted:It seems really unlikely they would have Ultron controlling the Iron Man suit and then controlling the Hulkbuster inside from inside the Iron Man suit with a dramatic 'suiting up' pose. Its not like a trailer has a bunch of scenes out of order.
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Oct 24, 2014 05:08
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redbackground posted:What if Ultron wanted people to think Tony was inside? It's a very public setting... Or most importantly, he wants Hulk to think Tony is attacking him
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Oct 24, 2014 05:14
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TwoPair posted:The one thing I don't like in the trailer (on further reflection) was ironically one of the things that got me hyped just to see: the Hulkbuster. Just because gently caress, we already had a scene of "Hulk goes nuts" in the first Avengers and I don't want to waste screen time with hero v. hero fights when I could be getting actual plot and/or hero v. villain fights. In their defense though, that's an actual thing in the comics. The Avengers are constantly having to go take down Hulk during one of his hissy fits. It's so common that The Hulk may as well be considered a major member of The Avengers' rogues gallery despite simultaneously being a team member. It's the entire reason behind the Planet Hulk and World War Hulk storylines. Tony and Co. got sick of his constant back and forth from friend to threat and kicked his rear end off the planet.
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Oct 24, 2014 05:16
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bobkatt013 posted:Its not like a trailer has a bunch of scenes out of order. I'm not sure what that has to do with it. The scene is shot like a heroic suiting up scene. It could be misleading but it seems a bit much to assume.
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ImpAtom posted:I'm not sure what that has to do with it. The scene is shot like a heroic suiting up scene. It could be misleading but it seems a bit much to assume. It also has him reloading when he gets in implying the Hulkbuster was in use before. Plus we really hope there isn't another Hulk goes crazy scene and Tony is just reclaiming it in the middle of a fight. Let us live in our dreamworld you monster.
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SirDan3k posted:It also has him reloading when he gets in implying the Hulkbuster was in use before. Plus we really hope there isn't another Hulk goes crazy scene and Tony is just reclaiming it in the middle of a fight. Let us live in our dreamworld you monster. Would it ruin the bromance between Bruce and Tony 
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OldTennisCourt posted:As much as I loved the first film, Avengers real failure was that Loki never really felt like a legitimate threat. It was partly Thor humanizing him to an extent, but in Avengers it really seemed like he never came out on top except MAYBE once. He always got punked so I never felt like "Oh gently caress, this guys a real danger." Loki showed up and got repeatedly owned, as is appropriate for a crossover structured to have a bunch of heroes team up and look cool while winning in an uncomplicated situation. However, he got exactly what he wanted in the end: he and the Tesseract were both in Asgard.
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Plus he got to shiv Thor. Also, maybe the Hulk/Tony fight is because Tony tried to zap Bruce with that little taser looking prod thing again and WHOOPSIE THERE GOES BRAZIL or wherever the hell they are.
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Gaz-L posted:"Give up, Ultron? WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?" I'd be a lot more surprised if it wasn't Rhodey has been killed and Tony now has the drive to take down Ultron because this time, it's personal.
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I don't think that was the IP armor being destroyed. It's got the Avengers A on it, and it looks a lot less... War Machine than the other armor did. Seems to be a full bodied suit of some kind, like a blown up proto ultron body or something.
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Oct 24, 2014 12:09
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Madkal posted:Where's my Blue Devil movie!? We're already on movie 2 dude Flash TV show Easter egg for those that missed it
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I don't think that was the IP armor being destroyed. It's got the Avengers A on it, and it looks a lot less... War Machine than the other armor did. Seems to be a full bodied suit of some kind, like a blown up proto ultron body or something. One of Tony's drones that kick off the plot, maybe?
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Oct 24, 2014 13:39
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It'd be really fun if Marvel switched gears and the Avengers found themselves fighting Raymond Reddington.
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bobkatt013 posted:Would it ruin the bromance between Bruce and Tony If the Hulk wrote off every single person that tried to maim or kill him over the years, he wouldn't be able to talk to anyone. As everyone has said, sometimes you just have to fight the Hulk. Most people have a bad day where they lash out at those around them every so often, it's just that with Banner that generally ends with him leveling a major city. The reason they keep him around is sometimes that city he levels is filled with enemies, and he marched through an army of robots/aliens/actual people but they were bad people so it's cool to get there.
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Esroc posted:It's the entire reason behind the Planet Hulk and World War Hulk storylines. Tony and Co. got sick of his constant back and forth from friend to threat and kicked his rear end off the planet.  But it resulted in my favorite Hulk story so w/e.
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Contrived or not, shooting Hulk into space is a really good idea provided the one in a billion chance that he lands on The Planet of War and Revenge Preparation doesn't happen. But it did and welp.
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zoux posted:Contrived or not, shooting Hulk into space is a really good idea provided the one in a billion chance that he lands on The Planet of War and Revenge Preparation doesn't happen. But it did and welp. Even if he had landed on the good planet, it would have ended the same. The skrulls still would have hosed with him until he came back. But you're right, they were just giving him what he always said he wanted.
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Senor Candle posted:But you're right, they were just giving him what he always said he wanted. RIGHT BEFORE the end of Planet Hulk, he clearly thinks that this is totally his jam and he is having an awesome time.
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Agent_grey posted:We're already on movie 2 dude Further proof that the DC-TV world is so much better than ours.
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Senor Candle posted:Even if he had landed on the good planet, it would have ended the same. The skrulls still would have hosed with him until he came back. It was more his best friends gently caress with him and kill his wife.
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Oct 24, 2014 17:41
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bobkatt013 posted:It was more his best friends gently caress with him and kill his wife. I thought it was the Skrulls that planted the bomb? I could be wrong I don't remember those very well
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Senor Candle posted:I thought it was the Skrulls that planted the bomb? I could be wrong I don't remember those very well Sorry its was quote:Red King loyalists had planted a damaged warp core on the Hulk's ship hoping it would kill the Hulk. Miek did not tell the Hulk hoping it would encourage the Hulk to keep destroying
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Oct 24, 2014 17:49
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Have the TV/Film universe's been given official multiverse designations yet? WIll they? Is that a bad idea?
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hi liter posted:Have the TV/Film universe's been given official multiverse designations yet?
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bobkatt013 posted:Sorry its was That was always my biggest problem with World War Hulk. The final reveal should always have been "no Hulk the Illumanti didn't plant a bomb and make the ship explode. No one did. It was just a stupid, tragic, random accident that happened and you've been lashing out at Earth because it's easier to do that then admit that no one is at fault." After all, it's just a stupid twist of fate that leads Bruce Banner becoming Hulk (rather than later nonsense about it being a conspiracy to have him locked outside when the bomb goes off.) Tragic stuff can happen, and while it's frustrating not having a target to direct your rage at, in the end you just have to learn to let go to move past it. But that's probably a discussion for another thread. Bringing it back to movies, I bought a kick rear end red Jacket and I'm going to be Starlord this Halloween. I want us to reflect on this. We live in a world, where it is perfectly acceptable for people to dress like Peter Quill for Halloween. Truly this is the greatest of all universes.
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The Question IRL posted:Bringing it back to movies, I bought a kick rear end red Jacket and I'm going to be Starlord this Halloween. It's a great costume because it comes with a ready-made reference/joke if people don't know who you're dressed up as.
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The Question IRL posted:That was always my biggest problem with World War Hulk. The final reveal should always have been "no Hulk the Illumanti didn't plant a bomb and make the ship explode. No one did. It was just a stupid, tragic, random accident that happened and you've been lashing out at Earth because it's easier to do that then admit that no one is at fault." Anyway...if no one planted a bomb, the bulk of the responsibility still falls on the engineers who designed and built the craft. There's such a thing as tragic fated accidents and then there's spaceships that kill a goddamn planet. The Hulk never really believed that the Illuminati were evil madmen who intentionally wanted to destroy a planet full of innocents (yet  ); that wasn't the point, the point is that a planet full of innocents still died from their creation. Saying "Oh, but we didn't mean for that to happen" is poor consolation for the fact that it still happened because the spaceship you built with your own hands was crazy dangerous.Miek had to be the one truly behind it. It turns the situation from "You sent me to a planet with an Armageddon device waiting to go off" to "The device was actually perfectly harmless and would have stayed perfectly harmless if it hadn't been tampered with by another person entirely, like someone using gasoline from inside a Prius to set a house on fire."
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Lobok posted:It's a great costume because it comes with a ready-made reference/joke if people don't know who you're dressed up as. Yeah, that can be important. One year I found out the hard way that "who are you?" was not a setup for my best "I'm the motherfuckin' Juggernaut, Bitch!" The whole party ground to a halt so fast I could swear I heard a record skip.
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