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i tried sil briefly but then i was like why play this when i could play crawl. but idk maybe its good
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Parallax Scroll posted:i tried sil briefly but then i was like why play this when i could play crawl. but idk maybe its good It's shorter, the skill and talent system is a lot different, and the combat is more consistent and easier to understand. It's also harder. Crawl gives you a lot more freedom to do different things, Sil streamlines everything to concentrate on core gameplay. They're both really good IMO, but I focus on Crawl because I'm better at it and enjoy the experimentation.
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Oct 24, 2014 18:46
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Sil's combat can be fully explained (to a degree in which a programmer could write it themselves) in a few paragraphs, crawl's requires talking about a million variables and lognormal distributions. Crawl has been slowly cutting out the archaic bits of linley's crawl with a scalpel, the sil devs hacked off the bad parts of angband with a triple sword on day 1. (Okay I don't actually know sil dev history but that's what it seems like.)
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Oct 24, 2014 18:54
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It's cool how Sil managed to make the Angband formula somehow good and not incredibly tedious.
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Oct 24, 2014 19:00
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you guys are making it sound aight. it doesnt have a tiles version does it
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Oct 24, 2014 19:04
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Parallax Scroll posted:you guys are making it sound aight. it doesnt have a tiles version does it I think it got tile support just recently but I don't remember for sure.
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Oct 24, 2014 19:06
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Ah...Magic Cake ftw
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Oct 24, 2014 19:07
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wtf is magic cake
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Oct 24, 2014 19:10
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I AM BRAWW posted:wtf is magic cake 
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Oct 24, 2014 19:15
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I AM BRAWW posted:wtf is magic cake It's very rare.
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Jeffrey posted:Sil's combat can be fully explained (to a degree in which a programmer could write it themselves) in a few paragraphs, crawl's requires talking about a million variables and lognormal distributions. Crawl has been slowly cutting out the archaic bits of linley's crawl with a scalpel, the sil devs hacked off the bad parts of angband with a triple sword on day 1. (Okay I don't actually know sil dev history but that's what it seems like.) I liked zangband when I played it a while ago, maybe I'll try Sil
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Oct 24, 2014 20:18
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the yikes guy 
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Oct 24, 2014 20:25
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Swelter Discharge posted:the yikes guy RIP
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Oct 24, 2014 20:26
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Swelter Discharge posted:the yikes guy That feel when you get a floor like this but two of the upstairs are right next to each other
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Oct 24, 2014 20:30
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Tho, in your case you coulda lived if you ran back up the stairs when you saw all that nasty poo poo coming your way
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Oct 24, 2014 20:31
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Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:Tho, in your case you coulda lived if you ran back up the stairs when you saw all that nasty poo poo coming your way all those were on the steps when i went down 
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Oct 24, 2014 20:36
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Swelter Discharge posted:all those were on the steps when i went down Oh wow. Yikes
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Oct 24, 2014 20:37
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might have been able to use a scroll - blink or fear, maybe. a potion or ring of invisibility, or item that evokes for blink, *might* have helped. was that the first set of stairs you went down on that level?
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Oct 24, 2014 20:51
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PleasingFungus posted:might have been able to use a scroll - blink or fear, maybe. a potion or ring of invisibility, or item that evokes for blink, *might* have helped. nah i went down another one and it had an invisible monster so i ran away from that went back upstairs then came down the steps in teh pic
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Oct 24, 2014 20:55
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If they didn't kill you on turn 1, scroll of fear definitely would have saved you.
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Oct 24, 2014 21:59
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Here is another combo for you to play if you are bored ocotopod monk you sneak around and strangle everything to death with your tentacles you can strangle like 8 things at once you get no armor but you can wear 8 rings strangle all the rats
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Oct 24, 2014 22:45
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i bought bayonetta 2 but spent all day playing crawl instead. 
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Oct 24, 2014 23:02
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Ibram Gaunt posted:i bought bayonetta 2 but spent all day playing crawl instead. story of all the games I buy
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Oct 24, 2014 23:05
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Ibram Gaunt posted:i bought bayonetta 2 but spent all day playing crawl instead. Yeah I haven't bought many games recently since they're all worse than Crawl Well, I bought Earthbound on the VC but that's different
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Oct 24, 2014 23:09
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Almost every game I play I eventually put down, Crawl I might play forever.
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Oct 24, 2014 23:41
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Swelter Discharge posted:nah i went down another one and it had an invisible monster so i ran away from that went back upstairs then came down the steps in teh pic there's a secret crawl fact: when you go down the stairs into a level for the first time, all monsters start at zero 'action energy', meaning that you basically get roughly a free turn to act. (nearly, but not quite, enough to ascend the stairs safely, for example.) you don't get this any other time you enter a level, meaning that leaving & re-entering a level elsewhere is much much scarier than entering it for the first time. (because you can end up in situations like the pictured one!) this is a weird mechanic and idk how I feel about it but it does exist, so, now you know.
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Oct 24, 2014 23:48
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PleasingFungus posted:there's a secret crawl fact: when you go down the stairs into a level for the first time, all monsters start at zero 'action energy', meaning that you basically get roughly a free turn to act. (nearly, but not quite, enough to ascend the stairs safely, for example.) It's important to have that to keep people from getting 1-shotted going down stairs.
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Oct 24, 2014 23:50
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got a cool vampiric scythe from Sigmund. then i drank a potion of beneficial mutation and resisted the effects... Fail.
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 is this any good?
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Thug Lessons posted:It's important to have that to keep people from getting 1-shotted going down stairs. there's a big dumb argument about it that starts around midway down the first page here; "crate" has most of the interesting posts. I don't know how I feel about it but it's not 100% straightforward. not planning on changing it anytime soon, anyway. Ibram Gaunt posted:
it's real real good, if you plan to hit things in melee or with a ranged/throwing weapon. if you're a pure caster it's not mind-blowingly amazing but still probably better than anything else you'll find any time soon.
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Oct 25, 2014 01:02
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what if you are a carpenter
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Third World Reggin posted:what if you are a carpenter hard hats are very important for construction work.
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Oct 25, 2014 01:15
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I died to a rare named snorg. RIP i had alot of cool loot too........... 
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Oct 25, 2014 01:22
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Nice boots, both pairs.
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Oct 25, 2014 01:37
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I got the assassin's boosts from a scroll of aquirement, and didn't know boots of running are apparently insanely good so i just wore the sneaky ones for the rest of my guys life. prob would have saved me from snorg.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I got the assassin's boosts from a scroll of aquirement, and didn't know boots of running are apparently insanely good so i just wore the sneaky ones for the rest of my guys life. prob would have saved me from snorg. Boots of the assassin let you stab with any weapon as if it were a short blade, they are pretty nice on the right character as well. Jeffrey of YOSPOS fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 01:43
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boots of running is one of the more rare items that I remember i think i've gotten the singing sword more times
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Are there any other good newbie combos because after that i kind of want to try something new. (was playing a gargoyle barbarian)
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PleasingFungus posted:there's a big dumb argument about it that starts around midway down the first page here; "crate" has most of the interesting posts. I don't know how I feel about it but it's not 100% straightforward. It's actually completely straightforward, and crate's points are retarded. Unavoidable, random and instant deaths are not fun regardless of whether they adhere to "Crawl's design philosophy", and the free time after going down stairs the first time is an incredibly minuscule and unimportant spoiler. It's not even the most spoilery thing about stairs. It makes no sense to make the game objectively less fun in the name of reducing "spoilers" that don't matter and almost never affect gameplay, while also adding nothing to any other facet of the game beyond more random unavoidable deaths.
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kobold berserker you can eat anything and go berserk when ever
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