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Petitioning Games Workshop Limited 
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Oct 24, 2014 16:01
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someone give that turbonerd a fuckin' swirlie
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Oct 24, 2014 16:03
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BULBASAUR posted:If you really dig into the rules, the Dreadclaw is pretty good. Its better than a drop pod for an assault squad, but worse than one for a suicide shooting squad. At least in the HH books you need to think of it as a 1st turn flier that can assault turn 2 and not an armored deepstrike cylinder. I dunno. I mean, it gives them marginally better protection because they can hide inside the hull of the vehicle, but it's really not all that hard to bring down (being AV12 and all) and it doesn't have Inertial Guidance, so you can't really DS all that safely near things. Its actual functionality is not awful, but being that it does almost exactly the same job as a Drop Pod but trades out the gun for the Melta Strike thing (which isn't melta and isn't strong enough to hurt a lot of vehicles >.> ) for more than three times the cost. If it'd been ~70pts maybe (it's definitely worth more than 35 due to being mobile), but 100pts is an awful price for a disposable transport. It costs almost as much as a Wave Serpent, for god's sake. Post 9-11 User posted:AbusePuppy is that Taylor Swift at a nerd shop?  I... I have no idea. I guess I've become important enough to deserve another custom av? Thanks, somebody!
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Oct 24, 2014 16:52
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Looks like it's a video game store.
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Oct 24, 2014 16:56
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I don't know why anyone anywhere thinks online petitions do anything. krushgroove posted:This thread tends to not like really enthusiastic people on YouTube sometimes?
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Oct 24, 2014 17:20
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Speaking of battle reports, you should post one!  
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Oct 24, 2014 17:27
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REAL MUSCLE MILK posted:Ghost Hand, call up FW and tell them their release schedule is awful. I don't want to buy Solar Auxilia until the book is out, but I also want to start Ultramarines. It's cruel to release them both. They gotta get out ahead of the writing. The writing has been outpacing the models. Either way no one is happy. Or you just wait for them to release all at once...? Either way someone is unhappy I suppose!
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Oct 24, 2014 17:44
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NTRabbit posted:I've noticed that every Youtube content producer and every web comic artist has goons that hate them and are more than willing to tell you all about it if you bring up that you like them anywhere on the forums People are going to hate my video blogs when I travel to WHW in about a week then :P
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Oct 24, 2014 17:45
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Genghis Cohen posted:Where are you getting 'demolisher cannon' from? I don't see one there. If it's any comfort most FW transports are overcosted. I really like the idea, in huge games, of those Gorgon super-heavy transports, but the points cost is a joke. Forgeworld has gotten better with their transport rules. The Gorgon is pretty bad, but the Spartan and 'Angry Tractor' are pretty good for their points. AbusePuppy posted:I dunno. I mean, it gives them marginally better protection because they can hide inside the hull of the vehicle, but it's really not all that hard to bring down (being AV12 and all) and it doesn't have Inertial Guidance, so you can't really DS all that safely near things. Its actual functionality is not awful, but being that it does almost exactly the same job as a Drop Pod but trades out the gun for the Melta Strike thing (which isn't melta and isn't strong enough to hurt a lot of vehicles >.> ) for more than three times the cost. If it'd been ~70pts maybe (it's definitely worth more than 35 due to being mobile), but 100pts is an awful price for a disposable transport. It costs almost as much as a Wave Serpent, for god's sake. If you dig into the rules there’s more to it than that. It’s a flier with zoom and supersonic, so it has a 4+ jink the turn it lands. If the CSM version chooses which mode it lands in (the 30k one deploys in hover mode) then it’s 6s to hit and a 4+ jink on an AV12 3HP flier on turn 1 anywhere on the board. That’s way better than a drop pod for an assault squad and the internal guidance doesn’t matter (since you’re a skimmer that can move after deepstriking in). The heat blast weapons are all hot garbage. The thing that limits it, in my mind, is how far you can move before you disembark troops. Is it just 6 inches? If yes, that means you’re forced to drop ~24” away from your target, move within 6”, take a turn of shooting, and then turn 2 move 6”, disembark 3”, and then assault hopefully 6". If it’s more than 6” movement before being able to disembark? Then it’s a lot better.
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Oct 24, 2014 19:07
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It doesn't have Supersonic, although as a flyer it can still move in Zoom mode if it wants to (except for the turn it arrives, when it is forced to Hover.) 4+ Jink is obviously still some protection, but it's not great, especially in the current environment. And yeah, you can only move 6" before the guys inside get out. However, as was pointed out to me, when in Hover mode it counts as a Fast Skimmer and can thus Flat Out 18", giving it a reasonable ability to get to where it needs to be. I still really don't like the 100pt price tag, tho.
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Oct 24, 2014 19:35
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Ignite Memories posted:Speaking of battle reports, you should post one! It'll happen! Work's just been a butt this week and I haven't gotten to get to it much yet.
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Oct 24, 2014 19:48
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AbusePuppy posted:It doesn't have Supersonic, although as a flyer it can still move in Zoom mode if it wants to (except for the turn it arrives, when it is forced to Hover.) 4+ Jink is obviously still some protection, but it's not great, especially in the current environment. Sounds like the rules are the same as in the legion books. It would be great at <75 points, I agree, but at 100 its still a turn 2 assault delivery vehicle. The other options are 150-300 points each, and come in the form of Angry Tractor, Crastus, or Spartan. They are better, but slower and cost more points. With those you're looking at a turn 3-4 charge if they survive. The other option is buying 100 points of additional bodies and foot slogging it across the board. That comes out to be an extra 10 tactical or 6 assault marines. The former are slow as gently caress and the latter are espensive as gently caress. So, all in all, I think its pretty decent for the price and where it sits compared to the others. It could be better, but for an assault army its basically a 100 point tax that gets you AV12, 3HP, and 4++ before you charge your guys in. ... or you could just get bikes.
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Oct 24, 2014 20:08
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Actually I'm kind of interested in these guys. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Navy/ARVUS-LIGHTER.html As apparently they're pretty cheap fliers and hold 12, I haven't gotten my book yet but I know that they're in there as a 1-3 Fast Attack. Maybe worthwhile for something, gently caress it who am I kidding, of course I'm going to shove nurglings in there.
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Oct 24, 2014 21:35
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One of the absolute worst models in the game I recall, unless they have changed the rules somewhat. It's a small transport capacity on an essentially unarmed model for a disproportionate price. Bulbasaur, I have racked my brains and come up with nothing - what is the 'angry tractor'?
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Oct 24, 2014 21:40
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Hollismason, congratulations, you found the one model with probably the worst rules in the entire gameGenghis Cohen posted:One of the absolute worst models in the game I recall, unless they have changed the rules somewhat. It's a small transport capacity on an essentially unarmed model for a disproportionate price. It's when the guy grabs the girls legs and lifts them up like a wheelbarrow but moves them back and forth while slapping her 
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Oct 24, 2014 21:42
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why would you get a flier to move loving nurglings
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Oct 24, 2014 21:42
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Awesome model, not seen the rules for it yet. Would love to play against a mechanicum army.
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Oct 24, 2014 21:43
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REAL MUSCLE MILK posted:why would you get a flier to move loving nurglings a little transport stolen by nurglings would be pretty cool cheeky lil fellas going on a joy ride 
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Oct 24, 2014 21:52
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Genghis Cohen posted:Awesome model, not seen the rules for it yet. Would love to play against a mechanicum army. About 150 points, holds 20, AV14 in the front (AV15 against template weapons), and it never gets stuck in terrain. Not sure if its an assault vehicle though.
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Oct 24, 2014 21:54
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BULBASAUR posted:About 150 points, holds 20, AV14 in the front (AV15 against template weapons), and it never gets stuck in terrain. Not sure if its an assault vehicle though. Pretty sure it's naturally 14/12/12 and THEN the flare shield. I also thought it was on the same hull as the Krios. Nope, it's bigger by a good margin. Genghis Cohen posted:Awesome model, not seen the rules for it yet. Would love to play against a mechanicum army. Just a heads up. AdMech had potential for supreme dickery and un-funness, pick your opponent wisely. Hencoe fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Oct 24, 2014 22:00
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Genghis Cohen posted:Awesome model, not seen the rules for it yet. Would love to play against a mechanicum army. Depending on who's playing it, you may not love it so much.
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Oct 24, 2014 22:01
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30k is all really good and mechanicum is probably the best of that so yeah.
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Oct 24, 2014 22:02
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If your legion is battle bros with admech and you use the BRB rules, that means you get to put 20 man tactical squads into angry AV15 tractors that cost about the same as a predator tank. Pretty cool.
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Oct 24, 2014 22:06
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Why would you not stick Nurglings in a flyer, that's the the real question. Why would you not do that. Cause then you would be able to name it " The Vomit Comet" , stick a Herald in there with a Greater Weapon and a Locus for Feel No Pain.
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Oct 24, 2014 22:29
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I'd rather put plague marines inside one and name it The AIDS Brigade.
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Oct 24, 2014 22:48
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Well I probably won't do that.
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Oct 24, 2014 23:13
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The ebola gondola... that sounds like a conversion for a DE skimmer...
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Oct 24, 2014 23:54
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Genghis Cohen posted:One of the absolute worst models in the game I recall, unless they have changed the rules somewhat. It's a small transport capacity on an essentially unarmed model for a disproportionate price. It's down to 55(?)pts, making it easily the cheapest flyer in the game, and is available as both a dedicated transport and FA unit. I wouldn't call them fantastic, but there's some very real sleeper potential there- cheap Objective Secured flyers are something to take note of.
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Oct 25, 2014 00:05
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AbusePuppy, I'm sure you get this a lot, but your mom is pretty hot
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Oct 25, 2014 00:31
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Oh I thought that was abusepuppy. Also, yeah 55 point flier is a excellent unit. It's even better when you can take 3 of them as transports, although I have no idea what the rules for Disembark is on those. Also, since they look like that it's probably a very easy conversion to make them instead of the 60 pounds a piece. Very eager to get my hands on IA13, and the delicious ability of Battle Brothers and mass squads of infantry. I can't decide though on my theme. Right now I'm thinking a 3 part mix of Chaos Space Marines , Rabble w/ Tanks, Daemons.Leaning towards Slaanesh and Nurgle. Nurgle especially because I do have zombies and Typhus. So a Typhus Horde army seems pretty sweet. The Chaos Space Marines would be super elite expensive units, Typhus some Terminator Body Guards, A unit or 2 of Plague Marines , that would be it. Then the Renegades with giant squads of Plague Zombies and some tanks then some Chaos Daemons to round it out. Does anyone know of a Forgeworld Slaanesh Character? I don't like Lucius. Also, this to me is a really good deal on price. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Chaos/CHAOS_RENEGADES/KHORNATE_RENEGADE_OGRYN_WITH_HOUNDS_OF_XAPHAN.html These loving guys http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Chaos/CHAOS_RENEGADES/RENEGADE_MILITIA_ENFORCERS.html Hollismason fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 00:48
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Hollismason posted:Oh I thought that was abusepuppy. renegades get 3 point zombies which is pretty great
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Oct 25, 2014 01:42
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Whats the max squad size on that, because if it's 50, yes please.
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Oct 25, 2014 02:56
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Hollismason posted:Oh I thought that was abusepuppy. Wait, Abusepuppy is Taylor Swift? We have two warhammer players that moonlight as musicians? Next you will tell me that the one bone guy is literally Robin William's animated skeleton.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:31
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LordAba posted:Wait, Abusepuppy is Taylor Swift? No thats Becky. I've been living a lie; that lie was my mistaken belief that Night Scythes / Doom Scythes were open topped, a belief that lasted for years.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:46
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LordAba posted:Wait, Abusepuppy is Taylor Swift? We have two warhammer players that moonlight as musicians? Robin Williams, a well known ham and goon, was entombed into a mighty threadnought. Granted eternal life, he now gains his life energy through posting. This will sustain his tortured soul until the day that, finally, Squats/Scrunts return to 40k. His mission finally complete, he will then become one with the emperor.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:56
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I asked Robin Williams if he played 40k and he told me that he just liked the Miniatures and played Dawn of War. I'm not joking, I did actually meet Robin Williams and ask him this
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Oct 25, 2014 05:15
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God dammit you people. 
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Oct 25, 2014 06:28
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BULBASAUR posted:(since you’re a skimmer that can move after deepstriking in). Wait has this been confirmed by the warham community at large? I know BOLS posted about this a couple of times regarding DE but not sure if this is the rule that people are operating under now. We (my group) have just started to agree that passengers on my Raiders can fire overwatch when the Raider is assaulted, which changed things quite a lot for my games.
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Oct 25, 2014 09:28
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Where has the angry tractor been all my life?
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krushgroove posted:Wait has this been confirmed by the warham community at large? I know BOLS posted about this a couple of times regarding DE but not sure if this is the rule that people are operating under now. I dunno about DE, but under the dreadclaw rules it says you can move after deepstriking "In the case of the Dreadclaw, unlike other Drop Pods it is not immobile after it has landed (deepstruck)"
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Oct 25, 2014 10:04
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