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I've compiled a list of fun and/or profitable cards to reanimate with Feldon: 
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Oct 25, 2014 04:12
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Tuktuk doesn't hit the graveyard more than once. Of course, you could use something like Barrage of Expendables to sacrifice him. Same with Keiga the Tide Star, etc...
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Oct 25, 2014 04:13
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Dungeon Ecology posted:Tuktuk doesn't hit the graveyard more than once. I don't follow...Tuktuk leaves you a permenant 5/5 (although only 1 at a time) and a Keiga in the graveyard is a control magic each turn, all the Kamigawa dragons would be bonkers with Feldon. I'd be looking at graveyard enablers or red looters to get them in the yard in the first place.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:20
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The Primordials? The Kamigawa dragons? Basically just fill the deck with self-mill/loot/discard and creatures with ETB/death effects, easy enough. edit: forgot Myojins don't work Coucho Marx fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 04:22
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Coucho Marx posted:The Primordials? Myojin of Night's Reach? The Kamigawa dragons? Myojin won't work since it won't come into play with a divinity counter. Edit: Tuktuk has been erratted to "When Tuktuk the Explorer dies, put a legendary 5/5 colorless Goblin Golem artifact creature token named Tuktuk the Returned onto the battlefield.", so if Voice works, then he will work. Cozz fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 04:28
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Dungeon Ecology posted:Tuktuk doesn't hit the graveyard more than once. Tokens enter the graveyard then go poof right? Sen-dart fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 04:28
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Oct 25, 2014 04:32
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I think a great way to exploit Feldon would be: -Rituals -Red "Looting" -Threaten/Sacc Effects. You spend the early turns looting and discarding reanimation threats, ritual up with Feldon in play and use Threaten Effects to steal blockers/untap Feldon, can also give Feldon haste in a pinch.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:32
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Missing Tyrant of Discord and Chancellor of the Forge and Bogardan Hellkite.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:33
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The Nastier Nate posted:I don't follow...Tuktuk leaves you a permenant 5/5 (although only 1 at a time) and a Keiga in the graveyard is a control magic each turn, all the Kamigawa dragons would be bonkers with Feldon. Hard cast Tuktuk, then he dies, cool! Get a free 5/5. Next turn, Pay 2R, tap Feldon, bring Tuktuk back, Tuktuk swings, no block, tuktuk disappears... Without a sac engine, your opponent is in control of whether or not your token dies. Keiga is probably more likely to trigger, because taking 5 damage a turn is not something you can do for long. ETB works every time, but Into-the-graveyard isn't always going to trigger.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:43
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But he disappears because he "dies" (is sacrificed), no?
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Oct 25, 2014 04:44
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Rinkles posted:But he disappears because he "dies" (is sacrificed), no? Yup, he will still see himself hit the graveyard, then he disappears because he's a token.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:47
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Rinkles posted:But he disappears because he "dies" (is sacrificed), no? e: I'm dumb. Dungeon Ecology fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 04:47
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I think you read Feldon wrong, part of the thing that makes him so good is that you SACRIFICE the token at turns end, it doesn't just exile...it always dies. Tuktuk will always get you a 5/5(although only 1 at a time since it's legendary). The dragons will always die unless your opponent can bounce or exile the token before the end step, wurmcoil engine always nets you tokens, etc.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:48
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Dungeon Ecology posted:Eventually, yes. But there's no intervening clause that says to exile the token if it dies. It simply says to exile it at the beginning of the next end step. It can be sacrificed, at which point it will hit the graveyard (trigger any effects), and be exiled because it is a token. What the gently caress are you on about read the loving card.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:49
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Just uhh, reanimate this guy. Nothing bad will happen.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:50
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Dungeon Ecology posted:and be exiled because it is a token. At first I thought you were misreading Feldon, but now I think you're misreading a lot of other things too.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:51
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Toshimo posted:What the gently caress are you on about read the loving card. I'm an idiot.  Next time I'll RTFC.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:56
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I was misreading Feldon. He just became much better to me.
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Oct 25, 2014 04:56
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Dungeon Ecology posted:Eventually, yes. But there's no intervening clause that says to exile the token if it dies. It simply says to exile it at the beginning of the next end step. It can be sacrificed, at which point it will hit the graveyard (trigger any effects), and be exiled because it is a token. Feldon says sacrifice it at the end step, so it'll hit the graveyard whether you sac it to an outlet or just let it go on its own. You don't need a sac outlet in play to take advantage of death effects, which is very convenient. edit: beaten double edit: you could potentially do something (terrible) with Umbral Mantle, Ashnod's/Phyrexian Altar, and a token generator like Krenko, Mob Boss or Emrakul's Hatcher... maybe. In mono-red, anyway. triple edit: Ooooh! Feldon with Thornbite Staff equipped and Phyrexian Altar out. Anything copied that brings at least three total bodies with it can be copied/sacced forever, four or more and you get infinite mana out of it too. Coucho Marx fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 04:57
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Pyronic posted:Just uhh, reanimate this guy. Nothing bad will happen.
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Oct 25, 2014 05:08
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The white Planeswalker Commander basically has to be Serra, right?
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Oct 25, 2014 05:17
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Myriad Truths posted:I don't know the lore well enough to say if maybe Serra isn't a better fit for the white walker, or the Lithomancer, but he comes to mind as a solid possibility, since they did a lengthy bio on him and he was on a lot of the Magic 2015 promo materials. The Lord of Hats posted:Speaking of which, she must have a nice thing going now that Kamigawa is basically guaranteed never to have anything disastrous happen again because we aren't getting a new block there. She can always just go home and relax if she feels like it. Everyone else's homes are either wrecked (Mirrodin, Zendikar, Dominaria, Alara) or not the greatest place in the first place (Innistrad, Tarkir). Carded post-Menders by plane and status: Dominaria (Karn, Venser, Nicol Bolas?) - post-apocalyptic. Ravnica (Domri, Ral, Vraska, adopted by Jace) - trucking along, Guildpact restored. Innistrad (Sorin, Tibalt) - Avacyn is Restored. Alara (Ajani, Tezzeret) - partly wrecked, partly stable as far as we can tell. Kamigawa (Tamiyo) - recovering from the Kami War under the Sisters' supervision. Tarkir (Sarkhan, Ugin?) - watch this space Theros (Xenagos) - he's dead and the gods are nuts. Fiora (Dack) - Renaissance Italy-ing it up. Not direly troubled, I think. Do we care? Zendikar (Nissa, Kiora, Lithomancer?) - Eldrazi'd. Mirrodin (Koth) - Phyrexia'd ??? (Elspeth) - Phyrexia'd ??? (Chandra) - Unknown, but her life there was poo poo, her family's all dead, and she's not going back, so whatever. ??? (Liliana) - Unknown, but her life there was poo poo, her family's all dead, and she's not going back, so whatever. ??? (Jace) - Unknown, but his life there was poo poo, his family's all dead, and he's not going back, so whatever. ??? (Gideon) - Unknown, but his life there was poo poo, his family's all dead, and he's not going back, so whatever. ??? (Ashiok) - ???
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Oct 25, 2014 06:03
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Sleep of Bronze posted:Kamigawa (Tamiyo) - recovering from the Kami War under the Sisters' supervision That's actually pretty ancient history--at the end of the Kami War, Toshiro Umezawa gets blasted off of the plane and into Dominaria. His descendant Tetsuo Umezawa came about 400 years afterwards and fought Nicol Bolas, and *that* is hundreds of years ago too. I'm pretty sure Kamigawa is pretty well recovered in the ensuing millennium.
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Oct 25, 2014 06:11
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Pyronic posted:Just uhh, reanimate this guy. Nothing bad will happen. My favorite idiot trick with this guy is putting Gift of Immortality on him and then killing him. A board wipe every turn for the rest of the game!
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Oct 25, 2014 06:12
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vOv posted:My favorite idiot trick with this guy is putting Gift of Immortality on him and then killing him. A board wipe every turn for the rest of the game! I don't see how there is a board wipe every turn... I mean, he destroys -everything- lands included, then your opponents have no lands, no creatures... I guess if someone has a Sorin S.V. emblem, or against the player with the Kiora emblem (or venser emblem I guess solves it entirely?), they still has a shot? everyone else gets beat down by a 10/10. However... yeah. Enemy Sorin emblem plus that combo is kind of beautiful.
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Oct 25, 2014 06:45
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Gensuki posted:I don't see how there is a board wipe every turn... I mean, he destroys -everything- lands included, then your opponents have no lands, no creatures... I guess if someone has a Sorin S.V. emblem, or against the player with the Kiora emblem (or venser emblem I guess solves it entirely?), they still has a shot? everyone else gets beat down by a 10/10. You arrange triggers so that when he comes back his effect kills himself again.
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Oct 25, 2014 06:48
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Gensuki posted:I don't see how there is a board wipe every turn... I mean, he destroys -everything- lands included, then your opponents have no lands, no creatures... I guess if someone has a Sorin S.V. emblem, or against the player with the Kiora emblem (or venser emblem I guess solves it entirely?), they still has a shot? everyone else gets beat down by a 10/10. kill it, comes back to battlefield immediately, stack the triggers such that gift of immortality comes back before the destroy everything trigger, repeat until your opponent's library is milled out
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Oct 25, 2014 06:49
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Gensuki posted:I don't see how there is a board wipe every turn... Bearer of the Heavens has Gift of Immortality. Dies, immediately returns to life. Delayed triggers at start of next end step: Gift re-applies to Bearer, Bearer kills everything. Repeat ad nauseum.
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Oct 25, 2014 06:50
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Gensuki posted:I don't see how there is a board wipe every turn... I mean, he destroys -everything- lands included, then your opponents have no lands, no creatures... I guess if someone has a Sorin S.V. emblem, or against the player with the Kiora emblem (or venser emblem I guess solves it entirely?), they still has a shot? everyone else gets beat down by a 10/10. 1: Place Gift of Immortality on Bearer of the Heavens. 2: Get him killed, say, during your main phase. He'll pop right back in thanks to Gift. 3: At the end step, both the 'destroy everything' and 'put Gift back on Bearer' will go on the stack. Arrange the triggers so Gift will come back first. 4: Gift comes back on Bearer, then everything is destroyed. Even though Gift and Bearer are destroyed at the same time, Gift still triggers, so Bearer will come back again. The next 'destroy everything' and 'put Gift back on Bearer' triggers now go on stack at the next end step, arrange them so Gift is first again, it all goes the same way. Repeat.
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Oct 25, 2014 06:55
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Sleep of Bronze posted:??? (Chandra) - Unknown, but her life there was poo poo, her family's all dead, and she's not going back, so whatever. Heh, really?
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Oct 25, 2014 06:56
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Rinkles posted:Heh, really? But what about Garruk?
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Oct 25, 2014 07:20
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Sleep of Bronze posted:
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Oct 25, 2014 07:33
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Watch the White Planeswalker reveal turn out to be Radiant. 
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Oct 25, 2014 07:53
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I'm jamming feldon as a one of in my Imperial Painter deck and I'm feeling very good about it.
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Oct 25, 2014 13:15
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The Lord of Hats posted:That's actually pretty ancient history--at the end of the Kami War, Toshiro Umezawa gets blasted off of the plane and into Dominaria. His descendant Tetsuo Umezawa came about 400 years afterwards and fought Nicol Bolas, and *that* is hundreds of years ago too. I'm pretty sure Kamigawa is pretty well recovered in the ensuing millennium. Thing I had forgotten and remembered while checking through AoA: moonfolk are apparently sexually compatible with humans, since one of the minor characters has soratami ancestry. Or the moonfolk scientists have been getting a little more Simic in their experiments, perhaps. Gensuki posted:But what about Garruk? ??? (Garruk) - Unknown, but his life there was poo poo, his family's all dead, and he's not going back, so whatever. Rinkles posted:Heh, really? Chandra - Born on a plane where fire magic was hated. This goes about as well as you'd expect for her. Crazy anti-pyromancy enforcers burn down her village and kill her family. Liliana - Daughter of a great and noble family, but a carefree black sheep. Tried to heal her brother of a terrible poison, but it drove him mad as well as saving his life because she made a demon's deal to do it. Thus despised and driven out. Her family are now all long dead of old age, if nothing else, since she was a pre-Mending 'walker. Jace - Mother never mentioned, father threw him out to learn under a shaman when he manifested magic. They conspired to keep Jace's Planeswalker status from him. When he discovered this, teenage Jace's anger issues ended up with him lobotomising the shaman. He ran, and is still wanted everywhere hundreds of miles of his old home. To be fair, I suppose there's an outside chance his family just hate him instead of being dead, depending how much time's passed. Gideon - A bastard son who never knew his father and whose mother then died when he was young. Ended up in a gang and then in prison, where someone took him in, recognised his nascent Spark, and straightened him out. Life is probably less poo poo for him there than the others on their planes, but he doesn't really have a home there by any stretch of the imagination. And Garruk - Mother never mentioned, father killed by the authorities for being a defiant peasant; Garruk came back from exile in the wilds after learning magic and bonding with the beasts to smash the selfsame authorities. Garruk therefore puts the trend of being an outlaw right back on track, which Gideon had slightly bucked by being a reformed outlaw.
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Oct 25, 2014 13:29
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Are the colours of mana recognised as distinct things in-multiverse. Does Chandra know she draws on red mana or just that she is a pyromancer?
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Oct 25, 2014 13:41
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BizarroAzrael posted:Are the colours of mana recognised as distinct things in-multiverse. Does Chandra know she draws on red mana or just that she is a pyromancer? I think they were, but I'm not sure about what's the deal post-Mending.
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Oct 25, 2014 13:43
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Does your LGS charge tax on event entry fees?
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Oct 25, 2014 13:46
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BizarroAzrael posted:Are the colours of mana recognised as distinct things in-multiverse. Does Chandra know she draws on red mana or just that she is a pyromancer? Planeswalkers certainly recognise that there are different types of mana, and also that mana bonds vary in terms of the type they provide, according to the place you're drawing the mana from. As far as referring to them by their literal colours, that's currently being left up to you to decide for yourself, but to let you decide for yourself, they have basically avoided making any characters do it.
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Oct 25, 2014 14:10
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