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Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

The only sucky thing is that there are only 2 merc companies and they're both mid range expensive...so not super useful until a certain point.

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Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

The thing that makes Axum even more epic is that it already has like 3 churches and a city.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Beta Patch

code:
MAJOR:
- Disabled the Depose Liege CB and the Weaken Fellow Vassal plots for not working well enough
- Fixed an issue where adventurers would no longer spawn fleets correctly
- Tweaked Gavelkind succession to focus more on the current capital duchy region for the primary heir rather than the "preferred" capital
- Tweaked Gavelkind succession to take no heed of what heirs will inherit from outside your realm

MINOR:
- Fixed bug where combats with multiple units on one side would always pick the WORST leader for each flank
- You can now only complete the "Become Exalted Among Men" ambition once per lifetime.
- Fixed OOS if all players did not reselect their characters after the last player had loaded the save.
- Tribals will now upgrade towards castle if their liege is feudal and city if their liege is republic.
- Removed the vassal king opinion penalty.
- Faction CBs are now invalidated when the liege is in a faction.
- The Byzantine free revoke on duchies are now in the Imperial Administration law.
- If the Charlemagne DLC is enabled, the Byzantine free revoke on duchies only applies to Viceroyalties.
- Fixed bug where the Centralization law was reset to the first level when enabling High Tribal Organization.
- The viceroyalty status of titles are now reset when the top liege gets the title, instead of just the liege.
- Lowered the opinion penalty for feudal vassals for granted viceroyalties (was -5 for king viceroys and -2 for duke viceroys, is now -2 for kings and -1 for dukes).
- Vassals can now grant viceroyalties if their topliege have laws allowing this and they have viceroyalty titles to give away.
- The viceroyalty flag for titles now resets when the topliege inherits the title, not just the liege.
- Viceroyalty titles can no longer be given as a normal title to a vassal.
- Added missing decision icon for offering to help with lieges titles.
- Minor localization fixes for events.
- Viceroyalties now provide their lieges with fewer levies.
- Fixed bug where overridden tribal holdings were not properly removed.
- The decisions for forming kingdoms and empires now have their succession laws inherited from the base title.
- Fixed CTD when using the console to increase attributes and the target character was dead.
- Event when regent is in on plot to lower tribal organization now have the right localization.
- Crash fixes for total conversion mods when learning scenario characters did not exist.
- Fixed republican succession where the capital was not a county capital.
- Tribal buildings now show what castle and city buildings they convert to in their tooltip.
- Republics now use their succession laws properly for all their titles and not just some of them.
- Fixed bug where looters were able to siege several holdings in one province simultaneously.
- Fixed broken calculation of months when determining if the war is undecided.
- Fixed bug where characters selected before loading a save was still the selected character after the save was loaded.
- Fixed issue where the exported chronicle showed the wrong year.
- Fixed bug where chronicle entries were missing from the chronicle.
- Characters with portraits in the chronicle will no longer be pruned from the database.
- Fixed bug where filler-entries showed the wrong year.
- The call all tribal allies tooltip now tells you when you can not call tribal vassals.
- AI no longer changes viceroyalty laws to handle being over vassal limit.
- Tribals and pagans can now raid others of the same religion.
- Triggered modifiers will no longer be added repeatedly and will be removed when no longer valid.
- Fixed bug where succession laws inherited from viceroyalties defaulted to gavelkind instead of the intended law.
- It is no longer possible to destroy viceroyalties.
- Fixed bug where factions to change succession laws were allowed against viceroyalties.
- When copying laws from viceroyalties, the liege title will be used for copying the laws.
- Fixed bug where the mongols could enact the open elective law.
- Viceroyalties can no longer change succession laws.
- Pressing "G" when having several units selected will now merge the units instead of changning mapmode.
- Blocked several CB's and plots against viceroyalties.
- Fixed bug where characters lost the viceroyalty-tag on their titles when they rebelled against their liege.
- Fixed bug where characters did not lose the viceroyalty-tag when they inherited their top liege title.
- Forming a merchant republic no longer creates a patrician of your own dynasty vassal.
- Mercenary costs are now calculated properly before raising them.

MODDING:
- Added copy_title_laws flag to the create_title effect (yes will copy laws from the base title)
- The priority_shortcut flag in interface scripts can now be used to define priority shortcuts. Priority shortcuts will fire before any other shortcuts.
- Added error log message for assigning is_viceroyalty in history where the title is owned by the top liege.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Tribals and pagans can now raid others of the same religion.

Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

I tried CK2 and it was really fun. Thanks thread. I look forward to enjoying more map games.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
ck2 is a good game

Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

I enjoy playing lovely countries no one cares about for some reason much more than large ones so far.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Widestancer posted:

I enjoy playing lovely countries no one cares about for some reason much more than large ones so far.

You may have the Map Gamer Spirit.

Wormskull
Aug 23, 2009

Widestancer posted:

I enjoy playing lovely countries no one cares about for some reason much more than large ones so far.

*nods sagely*

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

You might have the Map Gamer Spirit if..your heart skips a beat when you see this picture.

Wormskull
Aug 23, 2009

Knuc U Kinte posted:

You might have the Map Gamer Spirit if..your heart skips a beat when you see this picture.


Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

Knuc U Kinte posted:

You might have the Map Gamer Spirit if..your heart skips a beat when you see this picture.


PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Knuc U Kinte posted:

You might have the Map Gamer Spirit if..your heart skips a beat when you see this picture.


StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Knuc U Kinte posted:

You might have the Map Gamer Spirit if..your heart skips a beat when you see this picture.


DICKHEAD
Jul 29, 2003

Knuc U Kinte posted:

Tribals and pagans can now raid others of the same religion.

oh my god. wait wait... can hindus do this as well?

DICKHEAD
Jul 29, 2003

Knuc U Kinte posted:

You might have the Map Gamer Spirit if..your heart skips a beat when you see this picture.


DICKHEAD
Jul 29, 2003

did the expansion make any of central india tribal? it probably should have

OkieMurse
Nov 2, 2011

I get paid to stab people with sharp objects.

Knuc U Kinte posted:

Tribals and pagans can now raid others of the same religion.

thank motherfucking god

I can finally get all that sweet tribal catholic booty

OkieMurse
Nov 2, 2011

I get paid to stab people with sharp objects.

Widestancer posted:

I enjoy playing lovely countries no one cares about for some reason much more than large ones so far.

I have been playing these games for years and have never played as France, England, Spain, Russia, Germany, the HRE, or the Byzantines.

OkieMurse
Nov 2, 2011

I get paid to stab people with sharp objects.

quote:

The map of Brazil has seen one of the biggest changes, as the new map has reduced the wasteland provinces in this region greatly. The overhaul moves the border of the habitable parts of Brazil to include all areas settled during the period of the game and is accompanied by an overhaul of historical colonization dates for the later starts. At first glance, the coasts are far more attractive than the inland (which has lower tax values and more provinces with tropical climate) but investment in colonization of the inland can be quite rewarding in terms of the trade goods found there (especially the gold that in many ways drove the historical colonization).

A route has also been opened to allow the exploration of the Amazon river up to Manaus, and a northern route is now open from Manaus to allow the historical conflicts over the Rio Branco area (modern Roirama).

New Tags:
Tapuia - This tag represents the remaining Ge tribes on the Brazilian coastline. During the period preceding EU4 most Ge tribes had been forced away from the Brazilian coasts in repeated wars with the Tupi tribes.
Potiguara - One of three starting Tupi Tribes, starts near the mouth of the Amazon.
Tupiniquim - One of three starting Tupi Tribes in modern Brazil. Historically befriended the Portuguese and converted to Christianity. The current Queen of Sweden claims to be descended from their chief, Tibiriçá.
Tupinamba - One of three starting Tupi Tribes in modern Brazil, starts near the mouth of the Amazon.

Calling Plutonis...

oh I just realized he's in jail for 6 days. :rip: Well, when I saw this dev note I thought of you :)

DICKHEAD
Jul 29, 2003

OkieMurse posted:

I have been playing these games for years and have never played as France, England, Spain, Russia, Germany, the HRE, or the Byzantines.

byzantines in alexiad start is cool. check it out.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

MAn I've been struggling over the last 100 years to build an epic realm and I finally took a holy site (Sinai). Aside from that I own half of Egypt and now have a border with the seljuks and HRE Jerusalem. The real poo poo starts now. I wish empires were easier to create. Had a king live to 70 and he only amassed 3k prestige with nigh constant wars and literally always leading my army (Organiser/Holy Warrior for the epic MF Win!). *000 prestige is slightly insane.

elf help book
Aug 5, 2004

Though the battle might be endless, I will never give up

Knuc U Kinte posted:

You might have the Map Gamer Spirit if..your heart skips a beat when you see this picture.


elf help book
Aug 5, 2004

Though the battle might be endless, I will never give up

Knuc U Kinte posted:

Tribals and pagans can now raid others of the same religion.

wow

Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

Some people want the world and the moon.

Me? I just want my dumbass relatives to stop trying to harsh my mellow on my tiny speck of land.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
where are you playing widestancer

i started a 700s game on sri lanka and had to banish my fuckhead eldest son when he refused to accept the island's transition to ultimogeniture. i will now spend the next several centuries developing it into the premiere naval and diplomatic power of the indian ocean

OkieMurse
Nov 2, 2011

I get paid to stab people with sharp objects.
Don't you know I do what I do for the good of this family?!


Seriously though, if my brother in law could just be happy for once with his holdings that are larger than mine, my dynasty would bridge oceans. Short-sighted greedy bastards.

Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

zeal posted:

where are you playing widestancer

i started a 700s game on sri lanka and had to banish my fuckhead eldest son when he refused to accept the island's transition to ultimogeniture. i will now spend the next several centuries developing it into the premiere naval and diplomatic power of the indian ocean

I have one game in Mallorca and another in the Canaries.

Are these pro picks?

KoldPT
Oct 9, 2012

Widestancer posted:

I have one game in Mallorca and another in the Canaries.

Are these pro picks?

islands are really good, go with Ireland next

Buschmaki
Dec 26, 2012

‿︵‿︵‿︵‿Lean Addict︵‿︵‿︵‿
I've never played in Ireland because islands are way too static, Poland is actually a pro-tier starting choice in every bookmark, though. Being one of the Polish High Chiefs will help you learn about de jure realms and expansion strategies, while the king of poland in the 1066 bookmark is really handy if you want to get the hang of managing vassals since you get a good amount of counts and dukes who aren't too powerful.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Buschmaki posted:

I've never played in Ireland because islands are way too static, Poland is actually a pro-tier starting choice in every bookmark, though. Being one of the Polish High Chiefs will help you learn about de jure realms and expansion strategies, while the king of poland in the 1066 bookmark is really handy if you want to get the hang of managing vassals since you get a good amount of counts and dukes who aren't too powerful.

i tried the king of poland from 1066 when i first played the game and it was pretty neat until the mongols showed up

OkieMurse
Nov 2, 2011

I get paid to stab people with sharp objects.

StashAugustine posted:

i tried the king of poland from 1066 when i first played the game and it was pretty neat until the mongols showed up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afnJbdT4t5g

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


this is basically what its like living east of the hre

Buschmaki
Dec 26, 2012

‿︵‿︵‿︵‿Lean Addict︵‿︵‿︵‿
Yeah, that is true, although in the last king of poland game I played I managed to invade hungary and inherit the byzantines, so you have enough time to build a powerbase for the mongols, who are your end-game.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

i did do a game pre-2.0 where i managed to have basically the PLC borders but the mongols never showed up. then the muslims invaded through spain and took over half of europe, so i ended up owning all of europe after a couple crusades

DICKHEAD
Jul 29, 2003

Maybe i'll do a tribal poland game. i lost interest in ireland as soon as i civilized.

picts might be cool because you can raid all the english minors though

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

I got freaking blindsided by the Shias trying to take a Jerusalem duchy from HRE. HRE clowncar just kept coming and eventually outnumbered me so I white peaced out and then Shia Egypt rump declared war and brought in the Arabian Caliph and the battles and siege of one holding were enough to get 100%.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Taking Jerusalem from HRE is gonna be nigh impossible...they're on high CA and field somethign ridic like 60k troops, plus they vassaled pope immediately. I hate how easy it is to do that.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
otoh gently caress the pope and his ridiculous hat

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Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

zeal posted:

otoh gently caress the pope and his ridiculous hat

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