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Flint Ironstag
Apr 2, 2004

Bob Johnson...oh, wait

When I first started my current job, I used to see an MX-5 with stupid camber during the first few months of my morning commute. Haven't seen it for a while, I just hope it got rescued by someone who turned it into a track car. I mainly hope it didn't get crashed and ruined.

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Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Flint Ironstag posted:

When I first started my current job, I used to see an MX-5 with stupid camber during the first few months of my morning commute. Haven't seen it for a while, I just hope it got rescued by someone who turned it into a track car. I mainly hope it didn't get crashed and ruined.

Come on now, you know it got repossessed.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
Couldn't get a picture but got stuck on the highway in what I assumed was massive backup due to two of three lanes being closed for construction.

Turns out it was massive backup because of that, and because some idiot in a BMW 3-series slammed into the back of a police cruiser that was blocking a lane. Based on what I saw I wouldn't want to be in a Crown Vic in a major rear-end collision - the trunk was pushed up against the C pillar while the BMW had slightly worse than average "just plowed into a stopped car" front end damage.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Geoj posted:

Couldn't get a picture but got stuck on the highway in what I assumed was massive backup due to two of three lanes being closed for construction.

Turns out it was massive backup because of that, and because some idiot in a BMW 3-series slammed into the back of a police cruiser that was blocking a lane. Based on what I saw I wouldn't want to be in a Crown Vic in a major rear-end collision - the trunk was pushed up against the C pillar while the BMW had slightly worse than average "just plowed into a stopped car" front end damage.

Police CVPIs were rated to take a rear end impact at 75mph. The fact that the trunk was against the C pillar and not the B pillar is evidence of that.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Powershift posted:

Police CVPIs were rated to take a rear end impact at 75mph. The fact that the trunk was against the C pillar and not the B pillar is evidence of that.

Unless the vehicle doing the rear-ending is a semi with a driver busy browsing porn on his phone instead of watching where he's going, in which case you are pretty much just hosed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz1pPh5jOzg

The first DPS cruiser in the video is not occupied. The officer that's killed is in the 2nd cruiser.

ValleyGirl
Apr 4, 2014

Orininated in the Silicon Valley, emigrated to the San Fernando - ValleyGirl is THE distinctive high-tech caricature of a single white paraplegic female IT geek and ubernerd for all things scifi, political, aviation, and fast cars.

Bovril Delight posted:

Come on now, you know it got repossessed.

Nah, the boob who owned it just ran out of money to keep replacing his tires every 500 miles.

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG

ValleyGirl posted:

Nah, the boob who owned it just ran out of money to keep replacing his tires every 500 miles.

Nah, they just flipped the tire on the rim. Only have to replace it every 1,000 miles, duh.

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
Hate to say this but people that aggressively tailgate my students in the drivers ed car while driving the speed limit should kindly bash their face in a brick wall. I always try to keep them to the slower, right lanes but assholes think that if a car is not going minimum 5 over the speed limit, it must be bullied to go faster.

I want to so badly put cameras on our cars here at the facility to get video of all the lovely things people do around a drivers ed car.

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

Why is it whenever I take the A251 to work in the mornings, I always get stuck behind some fuckwit in a Citroen C3, or a Fiat Punto, or a Nissan Micra who insists in doing 15mph under the speed limit and there is never anywhere safe to overtake the bastards?

Pisses me off in the same vein when you get some oval office dawdling up the slip road onto the motorway doing 40. The whole point of a slip road being so long is to get up to 70mph so you can merge safely, not dawdle onto the motorway making the entire leftmost lane move over to avoid smashing into you.

Why is there this idiotic notion that slow automatically equals safe?

Toaster Beef
Jan 23, 2007

that's not nature's way

Vanagoon posted:

Following the drunk driver and trying to record them is -not- a good idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isc-RHHfbBs

Skip to 2:25 for the splat.

I know it's against what everyone here says is the right course of action, but stuff like this is why I always just try to get past this sort of driver and leave them firmly in the rearview mirror.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Ludicro posted:

Why is there this idiotic notion that slow automatically equals safe?

Because fast is scarrrryyyyy :ohdear:

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Toaster Beef posted:

I know it's against what everyone here says is the right course of action, but stuff like this is why I always just try to get past this sort of driver and leave them firmly in the rearview mirror.

Neither behind or in front is terribly safe. If you're in front, it just means they can jam their car up your rear end. If you're behind you run the chance of getting tied up in a wreck like the video shows.

A completely different road or just stopping somewhere for 5-10 minutes is really the best bet.

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
It's also a great idea to call it in to the non emergency number.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Ringo Star Get posted:

It's also a great idea to call it in to the non emergency number.

If they are obviously impaired, it's an emergency, not a non-emergency, in my opinion. I've called in a drunk driver to 911, and the highway patrol had a car behind him pulling him over in less than 5 miles.

The Midniter
Jul 9, 2001

Driving back from CT to NC some years ago, there was a black F-150 weaving across four lanes on 95 through DC. Luckily it was around 2am so traffic was light/nonexistent, but gently caress yes I called 911. Gave the plates and approximate mile marker location, and got the gently caress out of there. Hopefully they nabbed him.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Vanagoon posted:

Following the drunk driver and trying to record them is -not- a good idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isc-RHHfbBs

Skip to 2:25 for the splat.

For everyone screaming "they shoulda called 911" you don't know how many times I've called 911 for some crazy poo poo, and then followed the person for the next 150 miles still doing the same poo poo. I've also called 911 on the police before, just to make sure it was on record that the cop wasn't telling the truth when he called in for his "oops"

One time I saw a NHP get himself stuck in his crown vic because he misjudged a cross-over and got it stuck. He couldn't open the door and had to sit in the crossover for awhile to get a couple of wreckers out to pull him out. I don't know how but he cut the corner, slid down the side and got hung up on his pushbar on the driver side. I was very helpful in my call, "Oh does he need help? Are you sure he is OK, he looks really stuck down there!" Another time a sheriff almost did the same thing in his what ever that ford thing they use now is. Drove off into a ditch and was showing off how much flex he had with the front tire dangling in the air.

That's the nice thing about having a scanner is you can listen to them ignore your calls. Driving the wrong way on I-80? We won't dispatch anyone on it! I need to get a state job so I can nap more.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
^
Seconding that, I'm firmly in the "calling 911 on crazy/impaired drivers is a waste of breath" camp. I used to drive over 50,000 miles/year as a field technician and had my fair share of run-ins with crazies and a few drunks, but standing out for me was the time some guy started pointing a handgun at me after I passed him in a totally normal, non-aggressive manner. The 911 operator's response was "we'll notify the police who have jurisdiction there *click*" after I gave them his plate number and offered to follow from a safe distance.

If they're not going to send a cruiser out to stop someone pointing a gun at people they're not going to send a cruiser out for anything.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Geoj posted:

^
Seconding that, I'm firmly in the "calling 911 on crazy/impaired drivers is a waste of breath" camp. I used to drive over 50,000 miles/year as a field technician and had my fair share of run-ins with crazies and a few drunks, but standing out for me was the time some guy started pointing a handgun at me after I passed him in a totally normal, non-aggressive manner. The 911 operator's response was "we'll notify the police who have jurisdiction there *click*" after I gave them his plate number and offered to follow from a safe distance.

If they're not going to send a cruiser out to stop someone pointing a gun at people they're not going to send a cruiser out for anything.

I had a guy arrested for a 3rd time DUI in Minnesota. There they took it seriously. He had a mostly empty bottle of Vodka in the footwell and refused to give a sample.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
Today my wife was driving behind someone who insisted on slamming their brakes suddenly and putting the car in reverse (but didn't actually move in reverse) because...reasons? This was not on a busy freeway but more like a slow moving highway so there was no reason the guy should be upset about tailgating or anything of the sort.

She pulled off and got back on the road and watched him do it to other drivers so I think it's time to get a dash cam for her.

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug
Three elderly ladies on their way home from bingo night managed to not see a 62.5 meter semi transporting a wind turbine wing, and proceeded to collide with it. Worst injury was a minor concussion.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
It's a nice and warm morning. Last night was chilly, so the fog has rolled in. The tree trimmers are taking advantage and have set up on the side of a 45 mph road, closing one lane. They put up cones and a flashing arrow, but seem to have forgotten to turn on the lights. There was a lot of last second braking action going on. Saw 3 or 4 cars panic stop in the 15 seconds before I completed my turn.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Some old giffer in a Volvo S40 nearly ploughed straight into me at a mini roundabout today - then had the cheek to pap his horn at me. I was so surprised I actually double-checked I was indicating (I was. Cue sign-language communication).

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I nearly got hit by a car yesterday walking on the sidewalk, by a car idling out of a parking lot, because apparently it's too loving hard to keep your eyes on what's in front of you when your car's in forward motion.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

InitialDave posted:

Some old giffer in a Volvo S40

Redundant fragment, consider revising.

I was the person you share the road with today, lovely mood, explosive temper, ugly terrible fatass fiat, I was about a spilt second away from just rage ramming some shithead who decided a tesco parking lot was the place to assert his dominance by driving like a cock.

Cooled the situation by just screaming endlessly and punching the steering wheel repeatedly, probably lucky the airbag didn't go off.

Who am I kidding, it's electrical and fiat, it'll never go off.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Driving the ambulance, waiting at a red light (first in line), and when the light turns green, some Paris-Hilton-sunglassed soccer mom in the opposing traffic lane, in a uhaul van, tries to make a u-turn in front of me, cutting me off. Then she has the nerve to flip me off? I blasted the ambulance siren and air horn so much, and advanced far enough, that I forced her to back up and make way. There was room in the lane to my right to go around her (because traffic made a clearing right quickly when I got on the horn), but gently caress you, bitch. You get to move for me on this one. I've got a patient.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Geirskogul posted:

Driving the ambulance, waiting at a red light (first in line), and when the light turns green, some Paris-Hilton-sunglassed soccer mom in the opposing traffic lane, in a uhaul van, tries to make a u-turn in front of me, cutting me off. Then she has the nerve to flip me off? I blasted the ambulance siren and air horn so much, and advanced far enough, that I forced her to back up and make way. There was room in the lane to my right to go around her (because traffic made a clearing right quickly when I got on the horn), but gently caress you, bitch. You get to move for me on this one. I've got a patient.

Good for you.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Geirskogul posted:

Then she has the nerve to flip me off? I blasted the ambulance siren and air horn so much, and advanced far enough, that I forced her to back up and make way.

you are living the dream

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





atomicthumbs posted:

you are living the dream

Seriously. I've been nearly rear ended a few times lately because I seem to be the only one who even slows down for an ambulance in the opposite direction.

PaganGoatPants
Jan 18, 2012

TODAY WAS THE SPECIAL SALE DAY!
Grimey Drawer
I slow for an ambulance and people just go around me then slam on their brakes when they finally realize why I did it.

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter
Been working in a small town Colorado and going back to Denver on the weekends. As time progresses I get more concerned about the caliber of driver in the city. It may have a lot to do with how important my car is to my livelihood, but I'm drat nervous about getting into a collision. It's crazy how different drivers are the closer I get to the city.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

StormDrain posted:

Been working in a small town Colorado and going back to Denver on the weekends. As time progresses I get more concerned about the caliber of driver in the city. It may have a lot to do with how important my car is to my livelihood, but I'm drat nervous about getting into a collision. It's crazy how different drivers are the closer I get to the city.

You're not kidding. Denver drivers are incredibly aggressive while simultaneously not paying attention to jack poo poo around them. I've changed my habits considerably since moving here, but for the better. I drive really fast but follow at large distances.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.
Was driving up I-75 from Macon to Atlanta in a little two-car convoy at 3 AM yesterday when some dude in a newish Challenger sidles up next to us. At first it seemed like he wanted to race, but then I figured out he just sucked at cars. He slowed down a bit and then aimlessly drifted into my lane. From right beside me. I laid on the horn and he moved back over and slowed way back. I figured he was embarrassed about being an idiot. Ten minutes later he comes flying by us doing at least 90.

I can count on two hands how many times I've actually used my horn in my life, but that dick was one of them.

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Uthor posted:

My drive home involves a right turn at a busy T intersection. In the last month, I've started seeing people pull out into the right turn lane, stop, and hit their left turn signal to merge into the left turn lane. Usually, there is a steady stream of people making right turns on red that are now blocked while the light cycles (slowly).

The opposite happens where I'm at, there is a left turn only lane where the road goes from 2 lanes off the highway into the city and people use the left lane to get to the front of the line, wait for a yellow to red light and gun it through the intersection or just randomly go straight when someone turns right. I have seen so many almost accidents there because people won't wait another 2 minutes and stay in the right lane to go straight.

e: for reference:

Plinkey fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Oct 26, 2014

Theris
Oct 9, 2007

WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:

Was driving up I-75 from Macon to Atlanta in a little two-car convoy at 3 AM yesterday when some dude in a newish Challenger sidles up next to us. At first it seemed like he wanted to race, but then I figured out he just sucked at cars.

Wait, is other drivers having a pathological need to be right next to another car at all times not common in other places? Because where I am if a car comes up on you at a much higher speed it will more likely than not slow down once it reaches you and match your speed to drift between your blind spot and maybe a car length ahead. Similarly if you get to a slower car and move over to pass it it will speed up to keep you in its blind spot.

I always thought that was pretty normal.

Theris fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Oct 26, 2014

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

Theris posted:

Wait, is other drivers having a pathological need to be right next to another car at all times not common in other places? Because where I am if a car comes up on you at a much higher speed it will more likely than not slow down once it reaches you and match your speed to drift between your blind spot and maybe a car length ahead. Similarly if you get to a slower car and move over to pass it it will speed up to keep you in its blind spot.

I always thought that was pretty normal.

Hammer down passing usually takes care of this problem fairly well. Speed at your own risk.

ValleyGirl
Apr 4, 2014

Orininated in the Silicon Valley, emigrated to the San Fernando - ValleyGirl is THE distinctive high-tech caricature of a single white paraplegic female IT geek and ubernerd for all things scifi, political, aviation, and fast cars.

Ludicro posted:

Why is it whenever I take the A251 to work in the mornings, I always get stuck behind some fuckwit in a Citroen C3, or a Fiat Punto, or a Nissan Micra who insists in doing 15mph under the speed limit and there is never anywhere safe to overtake the bastards?

Pisses me off in the same vein when you get some oval office dawdling up the slip road onto the motorway doing 40. The whole point of a slip road being so long is to get up to 70mph so you can merge safely, not dawdle onto the motorway making the entire leftmost lane move over to avoid smashing into you.

Why is there this idiotic notion that slow automatically equals safe?

Really simple, really. "Speed" has been propagandized as THE threat to road safety, it's ingrained in driver's education from the first moment. They enforce speed limits, put restrictions on licenses for speed violations... etc etc.

I'm very fortunate that in the region I live in, while the de jure speed limit on the motorways is 65mph (for the most part, some areas are 70mph, some are 55mph), the de facto limit at which the Highway Patrol will begin to enforce the speeds tends to be around 80-85mph, and even so, they won't stop you unless you're doing something else unsafe or improper...

But, your situation happens to me often, except it's not the A251, it's the I-210 or CA-134. Merging safely is such a huge problem, people don't bother looking to see what's coming behind them before they just nonchalantly decide, meh, I'm changing lanes....

From my dashcam, two particularly egregious offenders: http://youtu.be/gl9YHYiSTvo?t=1m14s and http://youtu.be/gl9YHYiSTvo?t=1m14s and http://youtu.be/gl9YHYiSTvo?t=8m - same video, just different timestamps...

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Sviatoslav
Feb 9, 2010

Plinkey posted:

e: for reference:



Of Love and Regret sounds like a restaurant that I really really want to eat at.

Story to share:
A couple of weeks ago my friend was driving into work in heavy but steadily moving rush hour traffic. He is cruising in the left lane behind an S8 and some dude in a Malibu moving past slower traffic. They come up over a crest and the police have a speed trap set up in the center median with 3 cars and a couple of officers clocking speeders and waving them over to the side of the road to give them tickets. The dude in the Malibu gets clocked and the officer waves him over to the side of the road, and what does the driver do? Thats, right. Locks them up in the left lane at 65mph and comes to a dead stop in the middle of rush hour freeway traffic. S8 plows into the back of the Malibu and my buddie plows into the back of the S8. The only saving grace is he was driving his girlfriends car and not his ur-S4 and the S8 driver is also an Audi geek and knew that he was almost in tears about hitting his car. But now the Malibu kid is suing my friend, because according to the state of Ohio its his fault.

Bonus: The officers told my friend that every year they run speed traps in this area and they get about 900 tickets and 4-5 accidents exactly like that. What blows my mind is they are willing to accept that risk. My friend had 3 options. Dodge right and plow into a minivan, dodge left and plow into a couple of police officers standing on the side of the road killing them, or plow into the S8. None of those options are "safe". Yes, he should have had assured cleared distance. According to my drivers ed class its one car length per 10mph. At 65mph thats 6 1/2 car lengths... which is never going to happen in rush hour traffic. To keep distance you'd have to travel 40mph with your hazards on and even then 3 cars are going to move into that gap and you'll slow down further.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
What's all that poo poo at the bottom of your post?

ValleyGirl
Apr 4, 2014

Orininated in the Silicon Valley, emigrated to the San Fernando - ValleyGirl is THE distinctive high-tech caricature of a single white paraplegic female IT geek and ubernerd for all things scifi, political, aviation, and fast cars.

Geirskogul posted:

What's all that poo poo at the bottom of your post?

Referring to me? Or Him?

ValleyGirl posted:

Daily Drivers: 2002 Mercedes E55 AMG, Brilliant Silver, Autoadapt Menox control, hard-wired Valentine 1, SeeZeus GT680W dashcam w/ GPS | Ki Tsunami Titanium w/ Spinergy SPOX, Jay J2 Seatback, Jay J2 cushion

If me, it's called a "Signature". And if you're unclear as to what the "poo poo" is, Google is your friend. :)


Sviatoslav posted:


Bonus: The officers told my friend that every year they run speed traps in this area and they get about 900 tickets and 4-5 accidents exactly like that. What blows my mind is they are willing to accept that risk. My friend had 3 options. Dodge right and plow into a minivan, dodge left and plow into a couple of police officers standing on the side of the road killing them, or plow into the S8. None of those options are "safe". Yes, he should have had assured cleared distance. According to my drivers ed class its one car length per 10mph. At 65mph thats 6 1/2 car lengths... which is never going to happen in rush hour traffic. To keep distance you'd have to travel 40mph with your hazards on and even then 3 cars are going to move into that gap and you'll slow down further.


Here's how they justify the risk: they don't care about it. It's about revenue. If 900 tickets were cut in California, that's $270,000 in speeding fines, at roughly $300 per ticket. Granted, 4 or 5 accidents totals probably more than a combined $270,000 in cars, and medical expenses, but they just don't give a drat. It's about money for guns, police cars, and overtime. And 6 carlengths is plainly and patently unrealistic, no matter what. I try to leave at least 50 feet between the car in front at 60+ MPH, but in rush hour situations, it means that you will be repeatedly cut off, and forced to slow every time somebody jumps in front... meh. It's just one of the risks of driving, I suppose.

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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



ValleyGirl posted:

Referring to me? Or Him?


If me, it's called a "Signature". And if you're unclear as to what the "poo poo" is, Google is your friend. :)

You might wonder why nobody else uses signatures around here. It's because they look just as stupid as signing your posts

- Pham Nuwen

Pham Nuwen fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Oct 26, 2014

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