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Duncan Doenitz posted:Has anyone dug into why Sheldon Adelson is dumping millions into the anti-Amendment 2 campaign? What possible stake could an 81-year-old Las Vegas billionaire have in whether or not Florida allows medical marijuana? He's fighting against John Morgan for the governorship. He supports medical pot everywhere else in the world.
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Mr. Nice! posted:He's fighting against John Morgan for the governorship. He supports medical pot everywhere else in the world. Well hey, at least it's a little more complex than the average contest to see which candidate can poo poo on it more. That's an upgrade.
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I'm following the three legalization campaigns in OR, DC, AK pretty closely in news reporting, my take: - DC is almost positive to vote in Initiative 71, and by a large margin, maybe even 65%. Washington Post is (almost bafflingly considering their white, liberal readership) regularly whining about it, but that's not likely to sway many folks, and the perception of inevitability probably helps us more than it hurts. Downside is that Congress can mess with us on it, so the margin by which it wins matters way more than in a normal state, as higher margins put way more pressure on the Council and Mayor to defend DC's decision against Congressional fuckwittery. - Oregon is looking pretty good though not definite; the No on 91 campaign raised way less money than Yes (and "No" got a lot of funding from LEO organizations, funnily enough). Yes is running TV ads, No isn't even bothering. The poll numbers aren't gorgeous, some even showing below 50% support, but even those have enough "undecided" that the Yes is consistently beating out the No. - Alaska is pretty patchy, with both polls showing a clear loss and a clear win, but Alaska is pretty hard to poll so at this point I'm pretty unclear on it. The No campaign appears to be having some success with this narrative that "outsiders" are the ones trying to foist marijuana off on the proud and independent Alaskan people, which is a baffling argument considering how massively high the potsmoking rate is in Alaska. So if the Alaska one fails, my gut is that the "outside agitators!!!" narrative will have played a big role in it. Also their Yes campaign seems a lot more slapdash than the other states; it doesn't even have its own Twitter feed for crying out loud. Overall if I were a betting man, I'd bet on legalization passing handily in DC but getting dragged out by Congress; maybe non-commercial legalization sort of kicks in mid-2015, maybe even de-facto with DC just refusing to prosecute any marijuana infractions, but commercial sales taking at least a year or two to fire up, maybe even until after the 2016 election. I expect Oregon will pass by a narrow margin and things will kick in pretty smoothly. If I had to lay cash, I'd say Alaska is going to miss this one, but I'll be only mildly surprised if they manage to pull through, and will expect very little hassle in enacting any passed legalization, except for disputes about jurisdiction with "dry" townships.
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Oct 26, 2014 05:37
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Gonna be damned embarrassing if the capitol of the united states gets legalized weed but federal statute still classifies it as illegal, with no medical benefits at all.
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Oct 26, 2014 15:31
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peengers posted:Gonna be damned embarrassing if the capitol of the united states gets legalized weed but federal statute still classifies it as illegal, with no medical benefits at all. I think the negative effects outweigh the medical benefits so I am glad it's an illegal class B drug here in the UK. About 8 months ago I could smell cannabis coming from my neighbours house, he wasn't smoking it he was growing cannabis illegally. His windows where blacked out, I could see condensation on the windows and hear a whirring sound through the walls. He had turned his house into a cannabis farm, well I phoned the police because they dangerously hack the electrical meter for free electricity and it's a fire hazard. And since his house is adjoined to mine then my home is at risk. A few weeks later the he got raided by the police and he is now sitting in prison. The stuff is evil, I wish the penalties where harsher here inline with class A drugs like cocaine or heroin.
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Oct 26, 2014 15:53
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Humphry posted:I think the negative effects outweigh the medical benefits so I am glad it's an illegal class B drug here in the UK. About 8 months ago I could smell cannabis coming from my neighbours house, he wasn't smoking it he was growing cannabis illegally. His windows where blacked out, I could see condensation on the windows and hear a whirring sound through the walls. He had turned his house into a cannabis farm, well I phoned the police because they dangerously hack the electrical meter for free electricity and it's a fire hazard. And since his house is adjoined to mine then my home is at risk. A few weeks later the he got raided by the police and he is now sitting in prison. The stuff is evil, I wish the penalties where harsher here inline with class A drugs like cocaine or heroin. Sounds like your beef is with the law, not the plant.
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Oct 26, 2014 16:08
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Humphry posted:I think the negative effects outweigh the medical benefits so I am glad it's an illegal class B drug here in the UK. About 8 months ago I could smell cannabis coming from my neighbours house, he wasn't smoking it he was growing cannabis illegally. His windows where blacked out, I could see condensation on the windows and hear a whirring sound through the walls. He had turned his house into a cannabis farm, well I phoned the police because they dangerously hack the electrical meter for free electricity and it's a fire hazard. And since his house is adjoined to mine then my home is at risk. A few weeks later the he got raided by the police and he is now sitting in prison. The stuff is evil, I wish the penalties where harsher here inline with class A drugs like cocaine or heroin. Congratulations on being a caricature and a scold, I guess. Good job being a bulwark against humanity moving forward.
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Oct 26, 2014 16:56
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Humphry posted:I think the negative effects outweigh the medical benefits so I am glad it's an illegal class B drug here in the UK. About 8 months ago I could smell cannabis coming from my neighbours house, he wasn't smoking it he was growing cannabis illegally. His windows where blacked out, I could see condensation on the windows and hear a whirring sound through the walls. He had turned his house into a cannabis farm, well I phoned the police because they dangerously hack the electrical meter for free electricity and it's a fire hazard. And since his house is adjoined to mine then my home is at risk. A few weeks later the he got raided by the police and he is now sitting in prison. The stuff is evil, I wish the penalties where harsher here inline with class A drugs like cocaine or heroin. Weed should be considered the same as cocaine or heroin because i don't like the smell.
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Oct 26, 2014 17:21
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Humphry posted:I think the negative effects outweigh the medical benefits so I am glad it's an illegal class B drug here in the UK. About 8 months ago I could smell cannabis coming from my neighbours house, he wasn't smoking it he was growing cannabis illegally. His windows where blacked out, I could see condensation on the windows and hear a whirring sound through the walls. He had turned his house into a cannabis farm, well I phoned the police because they dangerously hack the electrical meter for free electricity and it's a fire hazard. And since his house is adjoined to mine then my home is at risk. A few weeks later the he got raided by the police and he is now sitting in prison. The stuff is evil, I wish the penalties where harsher here inline with class A drugs like cocaine or heroin. You registered yesterday just to post this, eh?
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Oct 26, 2014 17:25
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How are u posted:You registered yesterday just to post this, eh? Nope. Can't remember my ac.
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Oct 26, 2014 17:28
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3676075&userid=212498
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Oct 26, 2014 17:29
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SedanChair posted:Congratulations on being a caricature and a scold, I guess. Good job being a bulwark against humanity moving forward. If they legalize a medicine made from the plants then I am all for it. Not smoking yourself stupid because you wanna get high or feel the effects even if it's pain relief.
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Oct 26, 2014 17:35
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Humphry posted:If they legalize a medicine made from the plants then I am all for it. Not smoking yourself stupid because you wanna get high or feel the effects even if it's pain relief. Getting high is actually super fun 
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Oct 26, 2014 17:37
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Humphry posted:If they legalize a medicine made from the plants then I am all for it. Not smoking yourself stupid because you wanna get high or feel the effects even if it's pain relief. They tried that with Marinol, it doesn't work as well as the plant. Why gently caress with it when nature's got it right already? fake edit: btw you suck and so does your posting
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Oct 26, 2014 17:38
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Are you also against tobacco, alcohol and coffee? A coffee addict scares me much more than a weed addict. Mostly because the latter doesn't exist.
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Oct 26, 2014 17:38
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Mans posted:Weed should be considered the same as cocaine or heroin because i don't like the smell.
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Oct 26, 2014 17:40
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Mans posted:Are you also against tobacco, alcohol and coffee? Nope they are legal here. I smoke tobacco, I drink 5-6 coffees and 1-2 energy drinks a day. I cant drink alcohol because of opiate pain meds I take.
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Oct 26, 2014 17:41
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Humphry posted:Nope they are legal here. I smoke tobacco, I drink 5-6 coffees and 1-2 energy drinks a day. I cant drink alcohol because of opiate pain meds I take. "no you see, my drugs are ok because they're legal, nevermind that they kill/maim plenty of folks and are responsible for many problems in society!"
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Oct 26, 2014 17:49
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I posit a direct relationship between consumption of marijuana and susceptibly to obvious trolling
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Oct 26, 2014 17:51
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Guavanaut posted:I thought it was because if it was legal people would still continue to dangerously bypass electricity meters to produce it, like they do all the time with their home stills. Home stills are legal in the UK? That's pretty cool.
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Oct 26, 2014 17:51
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:Home stills are legal in the UK? That's pretty cool. I don't think anybody except farmers bothers anyway though, because the risks and effort outweigh the cost of just buying a bottle. I've never heard of anybody illegally tampering with a meter to run a still, or anybody outside of rural areas setting things on fire while trying to make moonshine.
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Oct 26, 2014 18:01
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Mans posted:Weed should be considered the same as cocaine or heroin because i don't like the smell. I wonder how many people are honestly still on about banning weed simply because of the smell of the smoke. Maybe a requirement to vape when in public would tilt them. 
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Oct 26, 2014 18:15
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Weed smell is basically how you know if an outdoors concert is good or not.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:14
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Humphry posted:If they legalize a medicine made from the plants then I am all for it. Not smoking yourself stupid because you wanna get high or feel the effects even if it's pain relief. *drinks wine*
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Oct 26, 2014 21:16
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SedanChair posted:*drinks wine* I dont drink or rather cant because of medication... please keep up with the current before posting.
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Oct 26, 2014 22:35
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Humphry posted:I dont drink or rather cant because of medication... please keep up with the current before posting. But do you think alcohol should be illegal?
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Oct 26, 2014 22:37
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Humphry posted:I think the negative effects outweigh the medical benefits so I am glad it's an illegal class B drug here in the UK. About 8 months ago I could smell cannabis coming from my neighbours house, he wasn't smoking it he was growing cannabis illegally. His windows where blacked out, I could see condensation on the windows and hear a whirring sound through the walls. He had turned his house into a cannabis farm, well I phoned the police because they dangerously hack the electrical meter for free electricity and it's a fire hazard. And since his house is adjoined to mine then my home is at risk. A few weeks later the he got raided by the police and he is now sitting in prison. The stuff is evil, I wish the penalties where harsher here inline with class A drugs like cocaine or heroin. You're an idiot. Tobacco is much more harmful to yourself and society. Congratulations on being a fuckwit narc.
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Oct 27, 2014 00:02
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Humphry posted:I think the negative effects outweigh the medical benefits so I am glad it's an illegal class B drug here in the UK. About 8 months ago I could smell cannabis coming from my neighbours house, he wasn't smoking it he was growing cannabis illegally. His windows where blacked out, I could see condensation on the windows and hear a whirring sound through the walls. He had turned his house into a cannabis farm, well I phoned the police because they dangerously hack the electrical meter for free electricity and it's a fire hazard. And since his house is adjoined to mine then my home is at risk. A few weeks later the he got raided by the police and he is now sitting in prison. The stuff is evil, I wish the penalties where harsher here inline with class A drugs like cocaine or heroin. I think you're a troll, but please do enlighten me as to what these supposed "negative effects" are. 
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Oct 27, 2014 01:07
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Brave New World posted:I think you're a troll, but please do enlighten me as to what these supposed "negative effects" are. http://youtu.be/54xWo7ITFbg
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Oct 27, 2014 01:21
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Legalize it. Too many Pharoahs of Egypt were buried with a sack of cannabis in their hand for modern civilization not to understand there's something to the stuff. Best Regards, RG
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Humphry posted:I dont drink or rather cant because of medication... please keep up with the current before posting. Nobody cares, but you seem to care about what others do. Maybe stuff it?
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Humphry posted:If they legalize a medicine made from the plants then I am all for it. Not smoking yourself stupid because you wanna get high or feel the effects even if it's pain relief. This person in his youth constantly went to illegal raves and got so off his tits that he's now on opiates for chronic pain, for those wondering why he may resent people who just chilled and smoked some bud consequence free.
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Oct 27, 2014 10:51
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Humphry posted:I cant drink alcohol because of opiate pain meds I take. Opiates are worse than weed, hope this helps.
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Exponential Decay posted:Opiates are worse than weed, hope this helps. Flaming Sambucas, the worst drug.
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Oct 27, 2014 11:57
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Exponential Decay posted:Opiates are worse than weed, hope this helps. Again this. Especially over long term. Have fun trying to piss when your prostate is the size of a golf ball.
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Oct 27, 2014 12:05
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I can't tell if you're all just using his posts as target practice or if you think he's serious.
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Oct 27, 2014 14:58
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Inspector Hound posted:I can't tell if you're all just using his posts as target practice or if you think he's serious. He's obviously trolling, but doing a great job at the same time. Hitting all the talking points and sounding just convincing enough to fool people. He's clearly been around.
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Oct 27, 2014 14:59
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:But do you think alcohol should be illegal? NO. Alcohol is great in moderation.
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Brave New World posted:I think you're a troll, but please do enlighten me as to what these supposed "negative effects" are. Anxiety, paranoia, cause mental illness's like schizophrenia, psychosis, can change your blood pressure etc...
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Benjamin Arthur posted:This person in his youth constantly went to illegal raves and got so off his tits that he's now on opiates for chronic pain, for those wondering why he may resent people who just chilled and smoked some bud consequence free. You are talking about what I did in the late 80's and 90's. That was 20 years ago.
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