What combo should I play next in DCSS?

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Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

the gold god should gift rings imo

# ? Oct 26, 2014 18:05

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 00:33

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

or set up a ring shop

# ? Oct 26, 2014 18:05

El Wombato: Mar 19, 2008; Mexican Marsupial

EvilMike posted:

the best thing to do is press ~ and set macros for your most used spells. if you have magic dart on "c" you can make the macro "zcf" and bind it to 1 or something. you basically create a hotkey for "cast magic dart at default (usually meaning nearest) target" this way.

I like to bind the key to cast the spell ("zc"), then bind the targeting-mode for that key to "."

Lets you double-tap the key to fire at the same target, but you can single-tap and still have targeting mode.

# ? Oct 26, 2014 18:40

a shiny rock: Nov 13, 2009

El Wombato posted:

I like to bind the key to cast the spell ("zc"), then bind the targeting-mode for that key to "."

Lets you double-tap the key to fire at the same target, but you can single-tap and still have targeting mode.

I don't understand. What key binding/macro do you set up?

# ? Oct 26, 2014 20:18

El Wombato: Mar 19, 2008; Mexican Marsupial

What I'm doing is binding the same key to different things for regular and targeting mode. So like to bind 1 to cast the spell in slot c, I'd to ~ -> m -> 1 -> zc then to bind 1 to fire that spell in targeting mode, I do ~ -> t -> 1 -> . (the period key)

So now in normal mode, the 1 key will cast spell c, and if it's a targeted spell, it'll flip into targeting mode where I bound the 1 key to do . (fire at current target)

# ? Oct 26, 2014 20:50

a shiny rock: Nov 13, 2009

El Wombato posted:

What I'm doing is binding the same key to different things for regular and targeting mode. So like to bind 1 to cast the spell in slot c, I'd to ~ -> m -> 1 -> zc then to bind 1 to fire that spell in targeting mode, I do ~ -> t -> 1 -> . (the period key)

So now in normal mode, the 1 key will cast spell c, and if it's a targeted spell, it'll flip into targeting mode where I bound the 1 key to do . (fire at current target)

cool, didn't know about targeting macros. or that you could use '.' to target. i always used 'f'

# ? Oct 26, 2014 23:17

tote up a bags: Jun 8, 2006; die stoats die

for anyone who hasnt ascended yet do a centaur hunter and just shoot everything to death. it is the only ascention i ever got and im useless at this game

# ? Oct 27, 2014 03:46

Jen X: Sep 29, 2014; To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

Stoat posted:

for anyone who hasnt ascended yet do a centaur hunter and just shoot everything to death. it is the only ascention i ever got and im useless at this game

I'd actually suggest a DDBe

# ? Oct 27, 2014 03:54

Thug Lessons: Dec 14, 2006; I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

This guy was funny, I got the hellfire mut but Dith wouldn't let me use it because he hates hellfire.

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# ? Oct 27, 2014 05:40

Swelter Discharge: Mar 21, 2013

i got to zot 5 and died to a freakin' killer klown

# ? Oct 27, 2014 06:04

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

how do yuo even win fights against uniques and poo poo in this game. once and a while i die due to my own brazen stupdiity (fighting a group all at once instead of in a hallway, etc) but 90% of my deaths are poo poo i couldn't possibly prevent, like dying to a poison spell when i haven't even collected any curing potions or rpois rings.

# ? Oct 27, 2014 06:22

Swelter Discharge: Mar 21, 2013

Larry Parrish posted:

how do yuo even win fights against uniques and poo poo in this game. once and a while i die due to my own brazen stupdiity (fighting a group all at once instead of in a hallway, etc) but 90% of my deaths are poo poo i couldn't possibly prevent, like dying to a poison spell when i haven't even collected any curing potions or rpois rings.

sometimes you wont be able to win against an unique enemy when you first encounter it and should just avoid it or skip the level its on entirely. sigmund and grinder can be really bad

# ? Oct 27, 2014 06:26

PleasingFungus: Oct 10, 2012; idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Swelter Discharge posted:

i got to zot 5 and died to a freakin' killer klown

killer klowns are kinda brutal.

also, lol.

# ? Oct 27, 2014 06:27

Swelter Discharge: Mar 21, 2013

PleasingFungus posted:

killer klowns are kinda brutal.

also, lol.

it went berserk and really kicked my rear end

# ? Oct 27, 2014 06:29

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Swelter Discharge posted:

sometimes you wont be able to win against an unique enemy when you first encounter it and should just avoid it or skip the level its on entirely. sigmund and grinder can be really bad

but whenever i go down a level it happens again when the level spawns an out of depth on me or something

# ? Oct 27, 2014 06:37

Solid Poopsnake: Mar 27, 2010; by Nyc_Tattoo; Nap Ghost

How are you guys escaping on the early levels from mobs you can't defeat? I've never made it past level 9, and usually die around level 6 (dungeon, I mean, not XP), for reference. If I'm playing a class with any kinda stealth, I can kinda skirt around and hope they don't notice me, but if I'm playing any kind of armored class, haven't gotten a tele scroll or whatever yet, and am low on health, I'm dead. Is that just the way it is, or am I missing something?

# ? Oct 27, 2014 06:39

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

recognize problems before you face them and run accordingly

see an orc priest and don't think you can take it? don't fight it and walk away

see an ogre and you don't have might or berserk handy? walk away

just go up the stairs closest to you and back down a different set of stairs

you need to be doing this before you fight so that nothing comes up with you

# ? Oct 27, 2014 06:46

Solid Poopsnake: Mar 27, 2010; by Nyc_Tattoo; Nap Ghost

Third World Reggin posted:

recognize problems before you face them and run accordingly

...

you need to be doing this before you fight so that nothing comes up with you

This is kinda what I'm asking about. For example, right now I'm playing a Minotaur Berserker. By the time an enemy appears in my LOS, they're already coming for me. It seems like nearly everything runs faster than me, as well. Should I be trying to kinda zigzag and break LOS?

# ? Oct 27, 2014 06:51

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Nothing runs faster than you except for like bats and unseen horrors and maybe dogs

everything else is the same speed if not slower

if you are not using diagonals the enemy will use them and seem faster

# ? Oct 27, 2014 07:13

Solid Poopsnake: Mar 27, 2010; by Nyc_Tattoo; Nap Ghost

Third World Reggin posted:

Nothing runs faster than you except for like bats and unseen horrors and maybe dogs

everything else is the same speed if not slower

if you are not using diagonals the enemy will use them and seem faster

Makes sense. Thanks!

# ? Oct 27, 2014 07:28

Thug Lessons: Dec 14, 2006; I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

DECK was doing really well until I walked into a cloud of chaos in front of an orc warrior and got paralyzed...

Next is draconian summoner... of Xom :twisted:

# ? Oct 27, 2014 07:33

Thug Lessons: Dec 14, 2006; I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Larry Parrish posted:

how do yuo even win fights against uniques and poo poo in this game. once and a while i die due to my own brazen stupdiity (fighting a group all at once instead of in a hallway, etc) but 90% of my deaths are poo poo i couldn't possibly prevent, like dying to a poison spell when i haven't even collected any curing potions or rpois rings.

Almost all of your deaths are preventable. Elliptic (the best player) has a random combo account, where the RNG picks a random class and race for him, and he wins 70% of those games. You have to work at your fundamental game skills. What you have to do with uniques is figure out how strong they are and run away if you can't kill them. Here are a couple tips: if you are confused, drink a curing potion which will cure the confusion. Also, if an enemy is stuck on you, keep retreating over and over and eventually a space will open up so you can go up the stairs without it following you. This can take a long time, but it takes a LOT less time than it would to regen your HP. Of course, it doesn't work on stuff that is faster than you, like adders.

# ? Oct 27, 2014 07:44

Thug Lessons: Dec 14, 2006; I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Third World Reggin posted:

Nothing runs faster than you except for like bats and unseen horrors and maybe dogs

everything else is the same speed if not slower

if you are not using diagonals the enemy will use them and seem faster

This is nonsense. Off the top of my head, here are some other early game things that are faster than the player: giant geckos, giant cockroaches, ball pythons, quokkas, adders, Natasha, worker ants, giant frogs, centaurs and Prince Ribbit.

# ? Oct 27, 2014 07:56

Thug Lessons: Dec 14, 2006; I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Solid Poopsnake posted:

How are you guys escaping on the early levels from mobs you can't defeat? I've never made it past level 9, and usually die around level 6 (dungeon, I mean, not XP), for reference. If I'm playing a class with any kinda stealth, I can kinda skirt around and hope they don't notice me, but if I'm playing any kind of armored class, haven't gotten a tele scroll or whatever yet, and am low on health, I'm dead. Is that just the way it is, or am I missing something?

See above post about not fighting stuff that's too strong from you and using One Weird Trick to escape from ogres etc. that are stuck on you.

# ? Oct 27, 2014 07:59

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

ok fine those guys are faster than you and also a joke to kill except maybe ribbit

# ? Oct 27, 2014 07:59

Thug Lessons: Dec 14, 2006; I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Third World Reggin posted:

ok fine those guys are faster than you and also a joke to kill except maybe ribbit

Are you seriously going to tell me adders, worker ants, centaurs and giant frogs are jokes? Because those (especially the first) rank as some of the top killers in the game.

# ? Oct 27, 2014 08:03

El Wombato: Mar 19, 2008; Mexican Marsupial

Travel exclusions are also really useful - if you see a nasty unique you don't want to fight and it doesn't wake up, do shift-x, move the cursor to its square, and hit e to exclude it and every square in LOS of it. auto travel will now avoid those squares so unless something makes noise near it you can keep autoexploring without waking it up.

# ? Oct 27, 2014 08:09

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Thug Lessons posted:

Are you seriously going to tell me adders, worker ants, centaurs and giant frogs are jokes? Because those (especially the first) rank as some of the top killers in the game.

to a heavy ac guy? yah

# ? Oct 27, 2014 08:11

Thug Lessons: Dec 14, 2006; I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Third World Reggin posted:

to a heavy ac guy? yah

Heavy AC is WORSE for most of those because they poison. You don't know what you're talking about.

# ? Oct 27, 2014 08:12

I AM BRAWW: Jul 18, 2014

Do you guys drink potions when you get them? I feel like whenever I get in deep poo poo, I end up dying as I'm randomly quaffing poo poo while trying to run away. Or do you guys read scrolls when you get them and use IDs to find healing pots?

# ? Oct 27, 2014 09:14

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

I tend to id things by dungeon level 3 and blow identity scrolls if I got them on potions

# ? Oct 27, 2014 09:16

Evil Eagle: Nov 5, 2009

I AM BRAWW posted:

Do you guys drink potions when you get them? I feel like whenever I get in deep poo poo, I end up dying as I'm randomly quaffing poo poo while trying to run away. Or do you guys read scrolls when you get them and use IDs to find healing pots?

I usually wait until I have multiple of something to quaff/read id something unless I'm in a pinch.

# ? Oct 27, 2014 10:16

I AM BRAWW: Jul 18, 2014

D:5 random items on the floor..

# ? Oct 27, 2014 13:31

Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

I found the glaive of the guard in a shop on d:5.
then I died. :rip:

# ? Oct 27, 2014 14:32

EvilMike: Dec 6, 2004

Parallax Scroll posted:

cool, didn't know about targeting macros. or that you could use '.' to target. i always used 'f'

they have slightly different meanings. "." will mean the attack stops at the square you target. "f" lets it continue past, if its a bolt spell or if it misses. dont use "." to target stuff unless you have to.

# ? Oct 27, 2014 14:35

a shiny rock: Nov 13, 2009

Third World Reggin posted:

to a heavy ac guy? yah

centaurs can still gently caress up a low level tank, but just get behind cover or rush him if that's not an option. those poison monsters aren't generally too bad cause if i have high ac i probably have high health too

# ? Oct 27, 2014 15:28

I am Otis: Sep 22, 2003

Does forlorn affect Xom? I chugged a mut potion by accident in a scramble to ID curing and things seem to be a little quiet for Xom, but I can't be sure

# ? Oct 27, 2014 16:15

PleasingFungus: Oct 10, 2012; idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

I am Otis posted:

Does forlorn affect Xom? I chugged a mut potion by accident in a scramble to ID curing and things seem to be a little quiet for Xom, but I can't be sure

I'm not certain but I believe so, yeah.

# ? Oct 27, 2014 16:18

I am Otis: Sep 22, 2003

PleasingFungus posted:

I'm not certain but I believe so, yeah.

now Xom seems to be as active as ever!

edit: in 5 turns I went from 'boring thing' to 'favorite toy' just by walking in and out of water

I am Otis fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Oct 27, 2014

# ? Oct 27, 2014 16:37

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Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

I should get in on the random combo thing.

# ? Oct 27, 2014 17:42

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