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notZaar posted:Keep your distance and use guns. Make sure you're dodge offsetting to get those wicked weaves in. Can somebody explain Dodge Offset to me? I never really understood it in either game. Also: I'm looking for the third LP piece in the Depths. I got one near the start on the cliffs with the two-dog fight, and a second in the weird forest where you fight Sloth and the two ball wizard guys. Is the third in that stage or elsewhere?
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Can somebody explain Dodge Offset to me? I never really understood it in either game. The third LP is in the next stage.
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Oct 27, 2014 04:03
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Evil Eagle posted:The third LP is in the next stage. Nah, all LPs are in the same stage. If it's the one I'm thinking of it is to the right when you reach the M-portal that is really obviously in the open.
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Oct 27, 2014 04:04
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Evil Eagle posted:The third LP is in the next stage. ...is it in the horse section or during the boss?
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Oct 27, 2014 04:05
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Can somebody explain Dodge Offset to me? I never really understood it in either game. Basically, in the middle of a combo if you hold the button you're currently combining with and dodge, you'll retain the actual combo after the dodge. So, if you're doing a ppkkk combo, you could do this: P, hold p and dodge, then kkk after the dodge. You can chain this effect as well. P, hold p and dodge, hold k and dodge, kk and come out with the same end result. It's tricky to get used to. If you do it during a long loading screen you'll be able to see the effect on the combo practicing thing.
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ImpAtom posted:Nah, all LPs are in the same stage. If it's the one I'm thinking of it is to the right when you reach the M-portal that is really obviously in the open. There's at least one set that's spread out between 2 stages, maybe it's a different one. The Harmonious Blacksmith Chapter VIII: Verse 5: Appears right after the battle with Allegiance. Verse 7: After the Verse is over, behind the portal Loki opens that requires you to jump around it. Chapter IX: Verse 6: Before approaching the Golem fight, on a lower walkway beneath the platforms. Located on it's own platform. Weapon: Takemikazuchi (Bayonetta) / 野牛 Yagyu (Jeanne)
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Can somebody explain Dodge Offset to me? I never really understood it in either game. Just hold down the attack buttons. Do it all the time and extend every hit you can. Don't let go when you dodge, that's the trick to dodge offsetting. Do it with the guns first, they're the easiest weapon to learn and the most balanced.
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Oct 27, 2014 04:10
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chumbler posted:I don't think the outfit really works that well if your legs aren't like 4 times the length of your torso. It's a great recreation of the costume, though. It's alright, Nintendo's put out a corrected version.
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Oct 27, 2014 04:11
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I will never stop using quad-chainsaws. Never. This is now my main build. EDIT: Beef Waifu posted:
Hang on! Nevermind! Rocketlex fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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Oct 27, 2014 04:19
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Oct 27, 2014 04:21
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I dunno how many people know about this mechanic with the chainsaws: if you hold down the attack button upon striking an enemy, the saws will keep cutting and glow red. That's pretty obvious. But, if you release the button and quickly tap it again when the glow appears, you'll add an extra Weave-strength hit to the combo that rips enemies apart with even more efficiency than the saws usually do.
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Oxxidation posted:I dunno how many people know about this mechanic with the chainsaws: if you hold down the attack button upon striking an enemy, the saws will keep cutting and glow red. That's pretty obvious. But, if you release the button and quickly tap it again when the glow appears, you'll add an extra Weave-strength hit to the combo that rips enemies apart with even more efficiency than the saws usually do. oh is that how that works? good to know
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Sorry to the people that tried to invite me. Both times you caught me in the middle of a boss fight. RIP. I'm missing one verse card now since the only thing left to beat in single player is Witch Trials V, Rodin, and the other difficulties. If anyone wants to play I'm down whenever I'm online. NNID Dionysian
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It's pretty premature to say, but I really am excited about what the hell they'll do for Bayonetta three's storyline. It seems obvious that the next step in the series is to take the fight to Inferno properly--where else could the plot go? Oh and I found the last LP piece. Now I have made Rodin a liar--he said he wouldn't attach a chainsaw to my arm. Now he's attached TWO. There's one more LP left to find though? Hmmmmm
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Oct 27, 2014 04:50
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Has anyone found a way to use the Love is Blue moveset for Jeanne? I like it a lot more than the Scarborough Fair set.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:It's pretty premature to say, but I really am excited about what the hell they'll do for Bayonetta three's storyline. It seems obvious that the next step in the series is to take the fight to Inferno properly--where else could the plot go? Beat the game in third climax. Also, the whip is awesome, and feet chainsaws are the best. Can't find a ton of use for the bow outside of the surf boss though.
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A little late, but the best way to deal with Gracious and Glorious is to equip Evil Harvest Rosary and do nothing but dodge and let the exploding orbs take them out. It's really cheesy, but on hard or above I can't beat them any other way.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:08
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Mr E posted:Beat the game in third climax. Also, the whip is awesome, and feet chainsaws are the best. Can't find a ton of use for the bow outside of the surf boss though. Oh I disagree on the bow, it's the best boss weapon for the first few bosses (non Lumen Sage fights basically). Since you're always flying at a distance and closing in is risky, being able to deal decent damage from a distance can really help.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:12
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If you go back to a chapter and get an LP piece that you missed, do you have to complete the chapter for you to keep it?
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:If you go back to a chapter and get an LP piece that you missed, do you have to complete the chapter for you to keep it? Not in the first game. I'd assume you wouldn't have to in the second either.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Oh I disagree on the bow, it's the best boss weapon for the first few bosses (non Lumen Sage fights basically). Since you're always flying at a distance and closing in is risky, being able to deal decent damage from a distance can really help. Yeah, I'll try that out when I play through again later to get all the HP/MP upgrades. Seems like it'd make a large portion of some of the fights easier to get a decent combo on.
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I was just about to ask if the bow is useful for anything at all. It's good for hiding from bosses? We will see but it's not an action game if you aren't slapping at some god's nostril.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:20
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Um, how do I use the Master Sword as the Hero of Hyrule? It's not showing up in my weapon wheel.
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Rocketlex posted:Um, how do I use the Master Sword as the Hero of Hyrule? It's not showing up in my weapon wheel. I think you need Shuruba or whatever it's called.
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Suspicious Cook posted:Not in the first game. I'd assume you wouldn't have to in the second either. I tried it myself, and it works. As soon as you get the LP piece you want to can go back to chapter select.
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Its a super long range weapon that can apply a DOT. In Umbran Climax you can just keep shooting tremendous dragonflies at things for repeated knockback. Only extremely mobile enemies can get away from it. That's about it. Poisoned enemies may or may not have lowered dizzy resistance but I doubt it.
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Just finished up the game and this is easily my favorite game this year. It improves on Bayonetta in nearly every way and is an absolute blast to play. Probably the one criticism I have is that I think the first game's cardinal virtues gave a better structure to the story than Bayonetta's bosses. They segmented the game into short arcs, whereas 2 didn't have the same kind of break points or arc structure as much. That is an extremely minor criticism, though. The final boss I think was better than Bayonetta 1's. It may not have had the same scale as 1's, but the fight itself was an absolute blast, fast-paced, and had more in common with the Jeanne fights from 1. There were also some nice touches in the ending. It was great that Jeanne's final summon was Gomorrah, the one that had killed her, for some payback. I also liked that in the final sequence when her outfit gets slashed she immediately rushes to cover it up, a nice contrast with Bayonetta. And I hope the pink dress is unlockable as well as the white one. I absolutely loved this game. Please don't let it end here, Nintendo. Even if sales end up being bad (god I hope not). Edit: In answer to my own question, you do get both dresses with the costume unlock. chumbler fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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chumbler posted:I absolutely loved this game. Please don't let it end here, Nintendo. Even if sales end up being bad (god I hope not). It's an inevitability. 
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Speaking of nice touches, during the ending I cracked up when I realized a somber, dramatic piano version of Balder's boss fight theme is playing when he bids farewell to Bayonetta.
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Oh my gently caress, they should have called Bayonetta 1 Hard Mode "Grace and Glory gently caress You Up" mode because Grace and Glory are loving me up oh my fingers oh my poor poor fingers Why are torture attacks so drat finnicky? What even triggers a torture attack, I thought it was based on my combo meter.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Oh my gently caress, they should have called Bayonetta 1 Hard Mode "Grace and Glory gently caress You Up" mode because Grace and Glory are loving me up oh my fingers You have to have a full magic bar (10 pearls) and hit punch+kick while close enough.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Oh my gently caress, they should have called Bayonetta 1 Hard Mode "Grace and Glory gently caress You Up" mode because Grace and Glory are loving me up oh my fingers Having a full magic meter, same as Umbran Climax in Bayo2. (That's why you see them pop up at the same time.)
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Oh my gently caress, they should have called Bayonetta 1 Hard Mode "Grace and Glory gently caress You Up" mode because Grace and Glory are loving me up oh my fingers You press X+A when you have a full orb of magic.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Why are torture attacks so drat finnicky? What even triggers a torture attack, I thought it was based on my combo meter. You need a full orb (one of the big ones) of magic to do a torture attack. Getting hit causes you to lose some magic (only in Bayo 1, thank god). Hope you can dodge!
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Well, trying to fill my magic bar against Grace and Glory without being able to Witch Time (Prologue verse 2) can suck a DICK
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Well, trying to fill my magic bar against Grace and Glory without being able to Witch Time (Prologue verse 2) can suck a DICK I've never tried it myself, but I've heard of people cheesing them by running away, charging the katana, releasing it on them when they get close and repeating.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Well, trying to fill my magic bar against Grace and Glory without being able to Witch Time (Prologue verse 2) can suck a DICK Dodge offsetting with guns gets you magic pretty fast in bayonetta 1. Also, save the magic in verse 1 to use in verse 2.
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Gold motherfuckers! As it turns out, taunting raises my magic meter. Running away, taunting, running back again. gently caress me but I didn't get hit. Too bad the previous five deaths already tanked my rating. And it wasn't even a perfect platinum... EDIT: I have been playing Bayonetta(s) all day and now I think I have carpal tunnel. Thanks Kamiya!! BottledBodhisvata fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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Oh poo poo the witch trials in post-game get hard fast. There's a Masked Lumen fight at the end of the second one that is intense well beyond what the normal fight is. He's super fast, attacks constantly, and you don't get witch time for very long against him. This game is real good, guys. Edit: Also, if anyone else is dumb like me and didn't realize this for some reason, the umbran armor attacks naturally have additional fire attached to them if you hold down the button. The punches fire a machine gun spread and the kicks fire shotgun blasts. chumbler fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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The Bullet Climax for the Arwings is insane. Check this out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E4cZknFUD8
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