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1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
I don't get why people are suddenly talking about this. The D800 and D600 have been available for like 2 years already.

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powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I was thinking the same thing. Has everyone forgotten or something?

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Yeah the D800 was really groundbreaking and this is more of the (awesome) same. At base ISO the DR is completely nuts.

sildargod
Oct 25, 2010

evil_bunnY posted:

Yeah the D800 was really groundbreaking and this is more of the (awesome) same. At base ISO the DR is completely nuts.

It's a bit of a pain in the rear end, actually. My ratio of keepers to throwaways has landed me up with way more keepers per shoot now that I have a D800, and that in turn means triple or even quadruple the post time, which means I start getting worried about inundating the client with too many choices which aaarggggghhhhh.

It is goddamn amazing though.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

1st AD posted:

I don't get why people are suddenly talking about this. The D800 and D600 have been available for like 2 years already.

Because most people don't have those cameras and don't realize how big a difference the Sony sensors make. I never really internalized what the extra DR meant until I actually downloaded some sample RAWs from a D800 and 5D3 and messed with them in Photoshop side by side.

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

sildargod posted:

It's a bit of a pain in the rear end, actually. My ratio of keepers to throwaways has landed me up with way more keepers per shoot now that I have a D800, and that in turn means triple or even quadruple the post time, which means I start getting worried about inundating the client with too many choices which aaarggggghhhhh.

It is goddamn amazing though.

Get better at editing.

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

sildargod posted:

It's a bit of a pain in the rear end, actually. My ratio of keepers to throwaways has landed me up with way more keepers per shoot now that I have a D800, and that in turn means triple or even quadruple the post time, which means I start getting worried about inundating the client with too many choices which aaarggggghhhhh.

It is goddamn amazing though.

That's a pretty nice pain in the rear end to have, all things considered. Have you tried taking fewer photos? :mmmhmm:

sildargod
Oct 25, 2010

StarkingBarfish posted:

That's a pretty nice pain in the rear end to have, all things considered. Have you tried taking fewer photos? :mmmhmm:

That is definitely becoming an option. Hahaha!

8th-snype posted:

Get better at editing.

but... :effort:

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

Deleting stuff takes no effort.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Gave my wife her little red D5300 package (tripod, bag, 18-55, 55-200) last night. Wasn't sure how she'd take a sort of "techie" present for an anniversary gift, but she cried and then immediately started reading the manual from page one.

Thanks for the recommendation! Can't wait to see what cute babby pics she makes with it.

SoundMonkey
Apr 22, 2006

I just push buttons.


BonoMan posted:

Gave my wife her little red D5300 package (tripod, bag, 18-55, 55-200) last night. Wasn't sure how she'd take a sort of "techie" present for an anniversary gift, but she cried and then immediately started reading the manual from page one.

Thanks for the recommendation! Can't wait to see what cute babby pics she makes with it.

A Dorkroom Success Story.

GonadTheBallbarian
Jul 23, 2007


BonoMan posted:

Gave my wife her little red D5300 package (tripod, bag, 18-55, 55-200) last night. Wasn't sure how she'd take a sort of "techie" present for an anniversary gift, but she cried and then immediately started reading the manual from page one.

Thanks for the recommendation! Can't wait to see what cute babby pics she makes with it.

Glad she's happy about it! You'll both have a lot of fun.

Mightaswell
Dec 4, 2003

Not now chief, I'm in the fuckin' zone.
My wife cries when I buy her camera stuff too.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

My wife cries when I buy myself camera stuff (d800 crew heyo)

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Mightaswell posted:

My wife cries when I buy her camera stuff too.

:colbert: Hey!! She never got nice things growing up, so she can cry if she want to.


Also she's 10 weeks post-partum and hormones are still going nuts notthatthathasanythingtodowithit.

Dread Head
Aug 1, 2005

0-#01

SoundMonkey posted:

A Dorkroom Success Story.

I feel like this must be an outlier.

Musket
Mar 19, 2008

evil_bunnY posted:

My wife cries when I buy myself camera stuff (d800 crew heyo)

Sell the wife, get more cameras.

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

something special arrived today

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

Mido posted:

something special arrived today



Chromatic abberation?

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

8th-snype posted:

Chromatic abberation?

:negative: dont take this away from me

Moon Potato
May 12, 2003

Mido posted:

:negative: dont take this away from me

It's actually pretty good on CA if you don't shoot wide open. This was at f/5.6 and there wasn't a hint of fringing or color shift.

Musket
Mar 19, 2008

Mido posted:

something special arrived today



Its a decent lens if you are not shooting at 1.2 the 58mm 1.2 is the one you want.

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

Musket posted:

Its a decent lens if you are not shooting at 1.2 the 58mm 1.2 is the one you want.

b-b-b-b-but speed???


i might have the 58 in here, i have the 85 f/1.8 at least

vote_no
Nov 22, 2005

The rush is on.
Yeah, I also picked up the 50 1.2 recently against the advice of this thread, and I'm regretting it a little bit. The 50 1.8D is just so awesome for $100, so the few occasions where the 1.2 outshines it aren't really worth the extra money.

JesusDoesVegas
Jul 8, 2005

The Funk Ambassador
Lipstick Apathy


Santa came early to my shop this year. 7 17-35s, 7 24-70s and 7 70-200s. We also got 7 new d800s. Im the happiest boy in all the land.

JesusDoesVegas fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Oct 31, 2014

Moon Potato
May 12, 2003

vote_no posted:

Yeah, I also picked up the 50 1.2 recently against the advice of this thread, and I'm regretting it a little bit. The 50 1.8D is just so awesome for $100, so the few occasions where the 1.2 outshines it aren't really worth the extra money.

Try shooting with it for a bit before you let it go. Even though it's not worth using wide open most of the time, I find it to be one of the lenses in the Nikon lineup that has its own special magic to it. I held on to mine and I don't regret it (although I did find a copy for $300, so I don't feel too bad about how cheap the other 50mm's are in comparison).

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

JesusDoesVegas posted:

Santa came early to my shop this year. 7 17-35s, 7 24-70s and 7 70-200s. We also got 7 new d800s. Im the happiest boy in all the land.

Selling any old D800's?

McSpatula
Aug 5, 2006

JesusDoesVegas posted:



Santa came early to my shop this year. 7 17-35s, 7 24-70s and 7 70-200s. We also got 7 new d800s. Im the happiest boy in all the land.

If any of those things make their way onto a truck, then happen to fall off, I'm your guy. :getin:

Do you guys just go through a lot of gear or what?

JesusDoesVegas
Jul 8, 2005

The Funk Ambassador
Lipstick Apathy
I'm in the US Navy. We've been using D200s and broken worn out lenses since I got here... We've got a d700 but its messed up too. This is a welcomed update to our beat up equipment

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

JesusDoesVegas posted:

I'm in the US Navy.
Already I can tell what you did wrong!

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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You guys steered me in a great direction before when I picked up my 35/1.8, so hoping there's a similar consensus this time around.

I'm still shooting on my old D50, but it's definitely starting to show it's age and I'm thinking of upgrading the body next year. Have a few lenses, but the 35/1.8 DX is definitely my favourite as it's nice and fast.

Obviously, ever single body out there will be a massive upgrade to mine, even if I buy the current level entry, but with so many current models as well as older models being available at one point (especially in the second hand market, which I'd probably purchase from) it's hard to know which would suit me best. I know I'm never going to get to pro levels, but I like to improve technique and get the most out of the things I buy. Because of this, I'm currently eyeing up the 5300 as it's the latest in that particular line, a decent jump up with regards to quality as well as being reasonable price second hand (I can buy either in the UK through MPB or the US through KEH, although if it's not a massive difference like in the case of the 5300 then I'll just buy from the UK due to convenience).

Any pros/cons against buying this model versus something around a similar price point? I probably don't really need the kit lens as even though it's probably better than my similar ones, I've got a 28-35mm, a 55-80 and a 70-300 already (rough guesses as I don't have them next to me).

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

EL BROMANCE posted:

You guys steered me in a great direction before when I picked up my 35/1.8, so hoping there's a similar consensus this time around.

I'm still shooting on my old D50, but it's definitely starting to show it's age and I'm thinking of upgrading the body next year. Have a few lenses, but the 35/1.8 DX is definitely my favourite as it's nice and fast.

Obviously, ever single body out there will be a massive upgrade to mine, even if I buy the current level entry, but with so many current models as well as older models being available at one point (especially in the second hand market, which I'd probably purchase from) it's hard to know which would suit me best. I know I'm never going to get to pro levels, but I like to improve technique and get the most out of the things I buy. Because of this, I'm currently eyeing up the 5300 as it's the latest in that particular line, a decent jump up with regards to quality as well as being reasonable price second hand (I can buy either in the UK through MPB or the US through KEH, although if it's not a massive difference like in the case of the 5300 then I'll just buy from the UK due to convenience).

Any pros/cons against buying this model versus something around a similar price point? I probably don't really need the kit lens as even though it's probably better than my similar ones, I've got a 28-35mm, a 55-80 and a 70-300 already (rough guesses as I don't have them next to me).

Unless you really love flippy screens and in camera wifi buy a used D7000. You will appreciate the larger viewfinder with 100% coverage and the extra control dial, things that actually matter when taking pictures. You may also appreciate the screw drive motor that allows autofocusing with older AF-D lenses. The D7000 has a second SD card slot which is nice, it can be used for backup or with an eye-fi sd card to transfer pictures to your phone or w/e. The D7000 has other stuff too, like buttons for accessing exposure bracketing and AF modes so that you don't have to dig through menus. And it's got a bigger battery than the D5300. Also, the D7000 has the virtual horizon feature which shows you if your camera is level when you're in live view.

Generally, I think the mid-level camera bodies are a trap. Especially for someone moving up from an entry level. Either get the entry level camera if you're looking to save money and don't mind compromising on features or get an enthusiast body if you're a little more serious and want more camera. Even if you don't use all the features of the enthusiast body you can grow into them.

While you're at it pick up one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D6Y0U8E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I recently picked one up and the faster SD card makes a noticeable difference in FPS once the buffer is full.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
Yeah, isn't the sensor in the D5300 basically the same as the D3300 anyway?

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
As someone who just purchased a D5300, get the D7000.

Jimlad
Jan 8, 2005

vote_no posted:

Yeah, I also picked up the 50 1.2 recently against the advice of this thread, and I'm regretting it a little bit. The 50 1.8D is just so awesome for $100, so the few occasions where the 1.2 outshines it aren't really worth the extra money.

To me, the 50/1.2 is beautiful lens but a very specialist one. I didn't buy my copy with the intention of using it for everything; I bought it because I wanted the characteristic abberations you get when you use it at 1.2. If I want high quality I have my Sony-Zeiss 55/1.8 which couldn't be more different in character. That said, I'll happily go out all day shooting with the 1.2 because it's still reasonably sharp when stopped down, and the focus action/mechanics are second to none and make it a joy to use. If you aren't enjoying it though, I'd just sell it on and get a more modern lens for less money, since the 1.2 holds its value pretty well as a niche lens.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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I love it when feedback is all the same, I'll look at saving a bit more and get a 7100 then. I did recall looking at a generated comparison between the 2 and thinking it looked better still but wasn't sure if it's age was a hindrance. Doesn't appear to be, thanks all.

E: oh it must've been the 7000 I compared it to. 7100 is about a year old yeah?

EL BROMANCE fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Oct 31, 2014

Fraction
Mar 27, 2010

CATS RULE DOGS DROOL

FERRETS ARE ALSO PRETTY MEH, HONESTLY


Are the mid-level cameras like the D7000 full frame?

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
No.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
The mid-level full frame would be the D600/610.

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Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

Fraction posted:

Are the mid-level cameras like the D7000 full frame?

full frames: D600, D700, D750, D800, D3, D4

And of course the variants of those models like the D610, D3s, etc.

Edit: and that funky retro one but I forget the model number

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