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AV Club did an article on rejected Oscar bait a little while back - could try searching based on those
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radlum posted:I think one of the podcast did Tiptoes, the "Gary Oldman is a small person" movie. It's a terrible movie How did this get made did it and it was a glorious episode.
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Oct 27, 2014 15:05
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I just thought of another good recommendation for WHM's animation damnation. The Captain Planet episode where a black family get graphically murdered.
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Oct 27, 2014 16:28
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Vakal posted:I just thought of another good recommendation for WHM's animation damnation. "He'd been supplying the spraypaint, guns, and finally, laser blasters to the gangs." You can pick actually a few Captain Planet episodes to basically hear an old white guy say the blacks are noble savages when they stay in Africa but are fuckin animals when they come to the first world nations, but it's a special one to make the jump from 'their so called tags' to laser rampages.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:39
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I love that the "so called" tags are just literal scribbles with almost no end. Because that's exactly what tagging is, just flailing your arm around with a spray paint can as you walk for a quarter mile or so.
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Oct 27, 2014 22:48
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weekly font posted:For the longest time I didn't understand how people couldn't tell voices apart but I started listening to Flophouse and can't tell Dan/Stuart apart. I also can't tell the Alcohollywood guys apart. I can tell Clint and Jared apart just fine, but it's not always easy to tell people apart from just a voice if they have the same accent and have roughly the same voice pitch, hence why it's difficult for some to tell the WHM guys apart (and I will admit I tend not to worry about who's saying what during the podcast - although they do tend to refer to each other by name frequently enough during the podcast, so I never find myself getting confused.) It's similar to the telephone effect - when you hear someone on a phone and often even if you know them, they sound different/odd when you're just hearing their voice. This is probably the reason why people often think I'm my mother or my brother when I answer the home phone, even though we really don't have the same voices. bobkatt013 posted:I really should have called in and ask for Mac and Me or Tiptoes. Maybe next time. personally, I think those choices are too obvious. Although I will admit that they both sound like movies that seem like they need to be seen to be believed, but Mac and Me is so notorious that it may well be in the "we'll never review this" bucket for WHM, along with Troll 2 and The Room. Predictably, I called in with The Watcher, and with Windows, because the first one is amazingly funny and the second one is awful, mean-spirited and hideously boring. BigRed0427 posted:I just thought of a bad movie category I don't hear enough about. Bad Dramas that are obviously fishing for an Oscar. Have the WHM guys or anyone else ever cover those kind of movies? In my mind, bad dramas are some of the best bad movies, because they very frequently become amazing comedies. Bad comedies, on the other hand, are excruciating blocks of unfunny pain, and there's frequently very little you can say about them other than "this isn't funny. This is offensive. this isn't funny. This isn't funny!" I have a review show and I've reviewed more than a couple of bad dramas, and they're usually very fulfilling to make fun of and frequently have premises that inspire laughter just in their own right, such as Rpattz as Gay Salvador Dali, or Oliver Twist but they're all gay prostitutes Ones that are oscar bait that don't work out so well also frequently feature laughably melodramatic acting and plot lines, obnoxious sweeping music and heavy handed themes, all of which are ripe for parody. Also, bad dramas are often bad in ways one wouldn't even anticipate. I would love to see more bad dramas on WHM, as I love it when they do lifetime movies or erotic thrillers, which are the closest they usually get to bad drama. On the other hand, I skip several of the episodes on horror, as I have little interest in horror movies, and find they don't tend to result in particularly notable or amusing episodes.
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Oct 28, 2014 07:48
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I don't know if it's actually considered a good movie or not, but I'd kill to hear WHM's take on the "preteens save up to buy a prostitute for the express purpose to seeing her boobs" dramedy Milk Money.
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Oct 28, 2014 08:50
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The Duke posted:I don't know if it's actually considered a good movie or not, but I'd kill to hear WHM's take on the "preteens save up to buy a prostitute for the express purpose to seeing her boobs" dramedy Milk Money. I listened to the Blame it on Rio episode last night. We don't need more light comedies with pedophilia undertones.
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Oct 28, 2014 12:31
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I haven't seen Blame it on Rio yet but just going by the WHM's guys description, it sounded more creepy and disturbing than any of the horror movie that they covered in this year's spooktacular.
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Oct 28, 2014 12:56
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Infamous Sphere posted:I can tell Clint and Jared apart just fine, but it's not always easy to tell people apart from just a voice if they have the same accent and have roughly the same voice pitch, hence why it's difficult for some to tell the WHM guys apart (and I will admit I tend not to worry about who's saying what during the podcast - although they do tend to refer to each other by name frequently enough during the podcast, so I never find myself getting confused.) It's similar to the telephone effect - when you hear someone on a phone and often even if you know them, they sound different/odd when you're just hearing their voice. This is probably the reason why people often think I'm my mother or my brother when I answer the home phone, even though we really don't have the same voices. Twist is a bad movie, but to be honest all it does it take existing subtext and make it hammer over the head text. It's lazy and unsubtle, but I don't think it's inherently laughable.
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Oct 28, 2014 13:06
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davidHalestorm posted:I haven't seen Blame it on Rio yet but just going by the WHM's guys description, it sounded more creepy and disturbing than any of the horror movie that they covered in this year's spooktacular. I've seen Blame it on Rio. It is just as horrifying as they depicted. Also, I think We Hate Movies picked my suggestion for next week! 
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Oct 28, 2014 15:17
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The Modern Leper posted:Twist is a bad movie, but to be honest all it does it take existing subtext and make it hammer over the head text. It's lazy and unsubtle, but I don't think it's inherently laughable. Yeah, to be honest it wasn't the best example - most of the bad dramas I watch don't necessarily sound that stupid when I summarise them. I actually kind of liked Twist, even though it wasn't the most competently made movie and the acting was sketchy. Here's my (rather longwinded) thoughts on the entire thing. In more podcast related news, I recently listened to the I Still Know What You Did Last Summer ep of WHM, and began to see a connection between The Hooker and The Raincoat Killer of Deadly Premonition (I doubt one directly inspired the other but any reminder of the weird hilarity and surprisingly lasting atmosphere of Deadly Premonition is a good one.)
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Oct 28, 2014 21:18
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Well, the Monkey Shines episode is a great episode of HDTGM if you want to hear June maybe going completely insane towards the end.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:13
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So I put in my request for Animation Domination, an episode of Spiderman 66, in which Spider-man makes a working motor boat with his webs. The whole show is ridiculous and amazing at the same time.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:44
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The Senator Giroux posted:Well, the Monkey Shines episode is a great episode of HDTGM if you want to hear June maybe going completely insane towards the end. I just came to post this. I find myself laughing really hard at whatever dumb poo poo spews from June and Jason calls her out on in the last few episodes.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:48
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weekly font posted:I just came to post this. I find myself laughing really hard at whatever dumb poo poo spews from June and Jason calls her out on in the last few episodes. I like how it's become such a thing with June that as soon as it sounds like she's going to start talking about her theory about the plot/characters/whatever, everyone gets real quiet because they know there's going to be some serious magic coming from Junes mouth.
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Oct 29, 2014 22:46
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:I like how it's become such a thing with June that as soon as it sounds like she's going to start talking about her theory about the plot/characters/whatever, everyone gets real quiet because they know there's going to be some serious magic coming from Junes mouth. I just imagine both Paul and Jason doing the  as they wait for whatever crazy poo poo she thinks to happen.June is a legitimately funny person but yea her highlights will always be when she just skids wildly off the road into crazytown.
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Oct 29, 2014 22:56
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The Senator Giroux posted:Well, the Monkey Shines episode is a great episode of HDTGM if you want to hear June maybe going completely insane towards the end. I think I may be going insane as well, I actually understood what she was trying to say. We joke about why is she married to Paul, but the crazier she gets, it starts to make sense.
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Oct 29, 2014 23:16
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I always thought June was just kind of playing a character, but nope, she's really completely nuts and I love it. That was one of the more epic rants i've ever heard, and Mantzoukas LOVED every second of it.
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Oct 29, 2014 23:18
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It really bothers me how Steve pronounces scythe.
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Oct 30, 2014 00:54
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There was an episode of WHM I had real trouble listening to because they kept saying capoeira wrong, don't remember which one it was.
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Oct 30, 2014 01:00
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A Meat posted:There was an episode of WHM I had real trouble listening to because they kept saying capoeira wrong, don't remember which one it was. That must have been Only the Strong. Because that's like the whole plot.
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Oct 30, 2014 01:08
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A Meat posted:There was an episode of WHM I had real trouble listening to because they kept saying capoeira wrong, don't remember which one it was. "capoeida", yeah, I don't think that's how it's pronounced in Portuguese either. Side note: Steve going "ewwww" will never not be funny.
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Oct 30, 2014 01:37
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radlum posted:We joke about why is she married to Paul, but the crazier she gets, it starts to make sense.
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Oct 30, 2014 01:48
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I wish I had a picture of Paul's face from when June starts getting into things at the end of this week's episode and Jason's trying to puzzle it out. That was insane.
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Oct 30, 2014 02:39
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I UNDERSTOOD the point she was trying to make. It was not a great point and didn't really matter at all, but I got it. Jason kept trying to help her out with "Well you have one good part, but the bit about casting is absurd" but she refused to back down.
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Oct 30, 2014 02:45
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ArtVandelay posted:I always thought June was just kind of playing a character, but nope, she's really completely nuts and I love it. That was one of the more epic rants i've ever heard, and Mantzoukas LOVED every second of it. HDTGM: "Let's wrap this up!" Me: Why are there still nearly thirty minutes left in the episode if they're going to wrap things up?
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Oct 30, 2014 04:01
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ArtVandelay posted:I always thought June was just kind of playing a character, but nope, she's really completely nuts and I love it. That was one of the more epic rants i've ever heard, and Mantzoukas LOVED every second of it. I skimmed the Earwolf forum to see more people's reactions to June's argument. I was not disappointed. 
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Oct 30, 2014 05:39
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OctoberCountry posted:I skimmed the Earwolf forum to see more people's reactions to June's argument. I was not disappointed. This is just beautiful I also loved Jasons reaction to June in the beginning when she said how much she loved the first hour of the movie. I just kinda love when Jason reacts to June incredulously.
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Oct 30, 2014 05:45
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Calaveron posted:"capoeida", yeah, I don't think that's how it's pronounced in Portuguese either. My wife was raised in new york and she said "skith" once and I yelled at her. The fact that Steve says skith and nobody yells at him makes me think it might be a New York thing.
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I guess I understood the basic point of what June was saying, I just have no idea how it related to only one monkey being credited for the performance.
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Oct 30, 2014 16:52
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Brocktoon posted:I guess I understood the basic point of what June was saying, I just have no idea how it related to only one monkey being credited for the performance. Yeah, that's what was so weird. She basically had two points, one about the monkey being the only one held responsible, and one about personifying animals and treating them as if they were actors when they're more like props. Whether I agree with those or not, I got those. The problem I was having was that I cannot see how those two points are connected, like at all. One has nothing to do with the other, but she seemed to think that the second point made the first point even worse. Basically, I loved Jason who kind of wouldn't let it go.
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Oct 30, 2014 17:22
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As best as I could figure it, she was leaning heavily into the idea that: Because the monkey was portrayed by 6 monkeys but only credited as one, it could be dangerous to animals(?) because then people would assume one monkey could actually do those kinds of things when in fact it takes many animals. This means the animals are personified more and people begin to treat them with less respect they otherwise would and could result in someone (monkeys - people?!?) being hurt in the process. Which I think tied back into the bears comment. Jesus I don't know but it was magnificent to behold.
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Oct 30, 2014 17:43
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Frankenfinger posted:As best as I could figure it, she was leaning heavily into the idea that: Because the monkey was portrayed by 6 monkeys but only credited as one, it could be dangerous to animals(?) because then people would assume one monkey could actually do those kinds of things when in fact it takes many animals. This means the animals are personified more and people begin to treat them with less respect they otherwise would and could result in someone (monkeys - people?!?) being hurt in the process. Which I think tied back into the bears comment. This is how I understood it too but that's based of Jason's understanding of it based on the James Bond counterexample. 
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Oct 30, 2014 18:04
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As near as I could tell, June was worried that people would see that only one monkey was credited in the role, and would therefore think that a single real-life monkey was capable of doing all those horrible things in real life.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:21
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Holy fucken poo poo the rant by June is amazing, and I can not believe the words coming out of her mouth.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:37
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I think she meant it was dangerous like how Jaws got a bunch of sharks killed after it came out, but I don't think anyone's going to go around murdering monkeys because of Monkey Shine. I can actually agree with her more this week than about being a man last week, she just really emphasizes the craziest points of her argument.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:56
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Trujillo posted:I think she meant it was dangerous like how Jaws got a bunch of sharks killed after it came out, but I don't think anyone's going to go around murdering monkeys because of Monkey Shine. I can actually agree with her more this week than about being a man last week, she just really emphasizes the craziest points of her argument. Right, that's one of her points. But Jaws was also a mechanical shark. Her full point only works if, had the shark been played by 6 real sharks, people wouldn't have reacted that way. But if the shark had been played by one actual shark named Bruce, they would be more likely to react poorly to sharks. It's two separate points, and I don't see how they're connected.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:58
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The fact that six monkeys were used makes it clearer the extent to which the monkey character was an imaginary creation fabricated using special effects, one that bears no resemblance to actual real-life monkeys. Even if the monkey in Monkey Shines was portrayed as a hero instead of a killer, it would still be dangerous because it would contribute to perpetuating a distorted idea of animals that mistakenly judges their actions according to human standards that don't apply to them.
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June's weirdass rants and theories are definitely reasons 1-4 to listen to HDTGM.the Insane Piano posted:The fact that six monkeys were used makes it clearer the extent to which the monkey character was an imaginary creation fabricated using special effects, one that bears no resemblance to actual real-life monkeys. Even if the monkey in Monkey Shines was portrayed as a hero instead of a killer, it would still be dangerous because it would contribute to perpetuating a distorted idea of animals that mistakenly judges their actions according to human standards that don't apply to them. It's a little more than the Monky Shines monkey bearing no resemblance to actual monkeys. Crediting a single monkey makes it look like a monkey did acting and that the part of Elle was actually a character being portrayed by a singular entity making choices so as to best embody the character. Instead of a group of monkeys doing tricks for treats. It gives monkeys an agency that they lack, which as you said contributes to reflexive personification. Which ties back into June's bear tangent in that campers attacked by bears engage in actions that are foolhardy by assuming that bears can differentiate between trash and food. Like they were Yogi's institutionalized cousin who just got out of bear jail and wants your pic-a-nic basket. Which is dangerous but in actuality probably owes far more to self centered idiocy of said people than an assumption of intelligence on the behalf of local wildlife by them.
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