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AreWeDrunkYet posted:At the same time, it also (net) helps borrowers generally - people with mortgages, student loans, credit cards, etc - by lowering the real amount of those obligations. And it encourages businesses and individuals to with assets to invest productively rather than sitting on cash. This is traditionally correct but it assumes that wages keep pace with inflation and I'm not so sure that's true anymore for the majority of Americans.
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Grapplejack posted:Did you really have a choice? Yeah I could have voted for someone who matches my political feelings instead of being cowed into voting for him cause of the scary Republican and there's always a scary Republican.
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How much worse was the New York GOP candidate when the Democratic one is saying we need to leave our educational system to the whims of the free market? Cumo is impressively lovely though in general.
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Good Citizen posted:This is traditionally correct but it assumes that wages keep pace with inflation and I'm not so sure that's true anymore for the majority of Americans. You're assuming that income from wages>interest in debt; not a safe assumption in modern america
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Oct 28, 2014 18:57
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But if you hadn't voted for Cuomo, then a GOP candidate could have installed conservative justices in the SCONY, reverting NY to the dark ages of secret illegal gay marriage, buying weed from alleyways in Harlem, abortions being done with coat hangers in Brooklyn and the availability of large soft drinks.  But really, Republicans are the ones who use scare tactics, amiright?
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Oct 28, 2014 18:59
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Amergin posted:But if you hadn't voted for Cuomo, then a GOP candidate could have installed conservative justices in the SCONY, reverting NY to the dark ages of secret illegal gay marriage, buying weed from alleyways in Harlem and abortions being done with coat hangers in Brooklyn. Thats wacist.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:00
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I've recently given up soda so that scare won't work on me 
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Oct 28, 2014 19:02
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Radish posted:I've recently given up soda so that scare won't work on me Off-topic but good on you.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:03
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Radish posted:How much worse was the New York GOP candidate when the Democratic one is saying we need to leave our educational system to the whims of the free market? If I lived in NY I would vote for Astorino. Cuomo is despicable.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:05
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mcmagic posted:If I lived in NY I would vote for Astorino. Cuomo is despicable. You gotta hand it to Cuomo, anyone who has the balls to openly campaign on "My opponent is a fag with HIV" and still lose is a helluva special candidate. Amergin posted:Off-topic but good on you.  Quit breaking the 4th wall and saying believable poo poo, Amergin
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Oct 28, 2014 19:07
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My Imaginary GF posted:You gotta hand it to Cuomo, anyone who has the balls to openly campaign on "My opponent is a fag with HIV" and still lose is a helluva special candidate. Wait what?
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Oct 28, 2014 19:08
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Unzip and Attack posted:Qu'rantine is great but "Vote Your Guns in November" is the most pure, crystalline microcosm of American conservatism I've ever seen. I heard an ad on the radio today for Rick Scott, the 2nd Amendment champion and defender, sponsored by the NRA. I just don't know. I don't like guns myself, especially with a 4 year old in the house, but I don't care if you own 10 or 20 or whatever the gently caress you want to do. It just seems like such a non issue to me is all. Like the ONE problem America (and Florida) is facing is a shortage of loving firearms for crying the gently caress out loud. "Well, I was gonna vote for Crist, but I really need these 5 guns that no one anywhere is trying to take from me so I guess I need to vote for Rick Scott." Guns are the ONE loving thing we seem to have in abundance.
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Unzip and Attack posted:Qu'rantine is great but "Vote Your Guns in November" is the most pure, crystalline microcosm of American conservatism I've ever seen. Now I'm picturing a future mass protest where every conservative voter just writes in "My guns" for president.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:15
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Amergin posted:But if you hadn't voted for Cuomo, then a GOP candidate could have installed conservative justices in the SCONY, reverting NY to the dark ages of secret illegal gay marriage, buying weed from alleyways in Harlem, abortions being done with coat hangers in Brooklyn and the availability of large soft drinks.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:18
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Khisanth Magus posted:In a volatile market the only stable investment is porn! I read an article recently stating that the porn industry is in the shits right now because all their stuff gets pirated on Youporn and Redtube (which are both the same company) and porn companies can't afford to send thousands of DMCA takedowns against them.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:21
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Was there once an ask/tell thread where a goon who owns a pay for porn site said "yeah I'm sure that 90% of my income comes from people who forget that they're subscribed to my site"?
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Oct 28, 2014 19:23
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Luigi Thirty posted:I read an article recently stating that the porn industry is in the shits right now because all their stuff gets pirated on Youporn and Redtube (which are both the same company) and porn companies can't afford to send thousands of DMCA takedowns against them.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:26
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Popular Thug Drink posted:nah, put em on salary and make them work 60+ hours a week. if they're too dumb to quit, free labor! I'm coasting along in a minimum wage job at a gym while I wait to start work again as a dog trainer and, when I first started, I was actually considering sticking around and moving into management. But, sure enough, managers are expected to work 10 hour days, six days a week and are salary. So, gently caress that noise, it works out to only slightly more than minimum wage for all those hours.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:27
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Was there once an ask/tell thread where a goon who owns a pay for porn site said "yeah I'm sure that 90% of my income comes from people who forget that they're subscribed to my site"? IIRC that was Tiny Bug Child, and yeah, that's why all porn sites want to charge you $5 for the first month, then $30/month afterwords. It's also part of the reason they obfuscate their charges on credit card statements.
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Luigi Thirty posted:I read an article recently stating that the porn industry is in the shits right now because all their stuff gets pirated on Youporn and Redtube (which are both the same company) and porn companies can't afford to send thousands of DMCA takedowns against them. all the big porn streaming sites are owned by one porn company traditional porn companies are suffering now but the industry is shifting to a performer/producer based model, where you see a lot of independent producers of content wildcatting it up Jerry Manderbilt posted:Was there once an ask/tell thread where a goon who owns a pay for porn site said "yeah I'm sure that 90% of my income comes from people who forget that they're subscribed to my site"? there's currently an ask tell thread by an actual pornographer who works for/with one of the big AAA studios http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3628293
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^ That guy has been doing that ask/tell thread since the Bush years. Internet Webguy posted:Now I'm picturing a future mass protest where every conservative voter just writes in "My guns" for president. Third Party Candidate Results: 2.3% "My Guns" 2.7% "Your Guns" 1.9% "Guns"
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My Imaginary GF posted:You gotta hand it to Cuomo, anyone who has the balls to openly campaign on "My opponent is a fag with HIV" and still lose is a helluva special candidate. Are you thinking of Mario Cuomo? Of any gay politician in the world Ed Koch might be the one who actually deserved that treatment.
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quote:Does anybody think that Vladimir Putin would have gone into Crimea had George W. Bush been president of the United States? No! - John Boehner
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While increased capital for a business may cause a need to hire more personnel, it also may not. The productivity gains from increased capital do not have equally corresponding gains by increasing labor. Consider for example a white collar business that has a photocopier that is slow and lovely - dealing with the photocopier costs the company man hours through the year - an issue even if employees are salaried as the employee's time has a cost even if that is not explicitly part of their compensation structure. Replacing the lovely copier may allow the company to gain back ten man hours per year per person, paying for itself, but it does not follow that the business must then hire more people. On the contrary, the capital investment actually made the existing labor more efficient. To get more abstract, you can put it this way. The publicly traded widget maker gets a fancy new machine that makes widget production more efficient, either widgets are made faster or they are made using fewer inputs or both. Without increasing labor, already the business is more profitable. It does not necessarily follow that Mr. Widget should add more labor hours. If there's only so many people who can operate a widget machine at once, then he's limited there. If the costs of running utilities to the factory for the extra hours ends up greater than the cost of the extra sold units, that would stop him. Or maybe the cost of storage and transport of extra widgets is more than the profit from them. Maybe the widget market is already near saturation point so flooding the market with a zillion widgets at once would undercut the profits. In the case of needing a new machine (additional capital to hire more people), the difficulty there is he can't just buy 1/5th of the machine and get 1/5th of the input - he needs the whole machine. Clearly in that case he needs further investment in capital to increase productivity. But there are all kinds of barriers to spending a whole lot more money at once. After all he already made a big purchase earlier that year. He wants to show a giant profit at the end of this year so the shareholders are happy and he gets a giant bonus (for hookers and blow, as previously established). But why not just buy it now so next year he can have mega big super profits? The shareholders will pitch a fit and might sell off the stock, maybe he'll get thrown out and replaced with someone more short-run minded. Anyway, who the hell cares, he'll probably sell the Widget business soon and retire to the Bahamas. Consider also that many countries have tax and labor laws that attempt to stabilize employment by taxing the employer on every employee. Federal and State unemployment insurance tax functions that way in the states. Between that and the costs of training a new employee (who could get poached because nobody trains employees these days) it's often more cost effective to stick with the employees you've got, even considering overtime (and especially if the employee is salaried).
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Trabisnikof posted:
Easiest campaign song pick ever.
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Amergin posted:If I invest in capital and expand production capacity, would I not also need additional personnel to go along with that capacity? Not necessarily since the truly transformative capital goods we're dealing with today are so technologically advanced that they increase capacity purely through increased productivity without having to hire more people, or increase capacity while making humans to various degrees redundant through automation. You could argue that previous eras of transformative technological change with new technologies for capital goods like looms or whatever ended up increasing the return on labor without the need for government intervention because of some confluence of (a) the growth in profits was so much bigger than the ROI on capital goods that some trickled down or (b) there ended up being a net gain of jobs and wages but taking into account the actual inputs and outputs of today's capital goods there's been zero evidence that's been the case for decades. Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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Shear Modulus posted:Not necessarily since the truly transformative capital goods we're dealing with today are so technologically advanced that they increase capacity purely through increased productivity without having to hire more people, or increase capacity while making humans to various degrees redundant through automation. Not to mention that new ways of getting labor/desperate people means that standards for laborers are shot to hell. See contractors/adjuncts.
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Quote of the day, “The people of Massachusetts are not taking Scott Brown! They’re taking Jeanne Shaheen.” ~ Professor Senator Warren, speaking in New Hampshire.
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KomradeX posted:So Andrew Cumo was talking about how he wants to "break the last great public monopoly." Education of course, by instituting stricter teacher evaluations and promoting charter schools because competition makes for better results. How strong is the NY teacher's union? Can they effectively fight this?
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Was there once an ask/tell thread where a goon who owns a pay for porn site said "yeah I'm sure that 90% of my income comes from people who forget that they're subscribed to my site"? This is basically the subscription model of many P2P MMO video games.
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Oct 28, 2014 21:08
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Warcabbit posted:This is basically the subscription model of many P2P MMO video games. I always wondered how RuneScape still exists.
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So a judge in Georgia basically went "eh, I'm sure they'll follow through on their duties" in regards to 40,000 missing voter registrations http://thinkprogress.org/election/2014/10/28/3585449/court-allows-voter-suppression/
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Amused to Death posted:So a judge in Georgia basically went "eh, I'm sure they'll follow through on their duties" in regards to 40,000 missing voter registrations No news coverage means no incentive to do the right thing. Plus, Georgia.
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Amused to Death posted:So a judge in Georgia basically went "eh, I'm sure they'll follow through on their duties" in regards to 40,000 missing voter registrations Part of me loves seeing an election so blatantly stolen because it still isn't going to push anyone to action over it. We really deserve the lovely government we get.
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VikingofRock posted:How strong is the NY teacher's union? Can they effectively fight this? I don't know how strong it is state wide, it's kind of strong in New York City but I don't think they can stop the governor hell they couldn't even get Bloomberg to negotiate with them.
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quote:"Those haters out there don't understand that it invigorates me. The more they're pouring on the more I'm gonna bug the crap out of them by being out there with a voice, with a message, hopefully running for office in the future, too." Please please do Sarah.
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Doesn't she regularly say "I'm totally running for office now!" to rake in big bucks from Teabaggers before saying "eh gently caress it"?
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I like that she apparently thinks in tumblr memes like "Haters motivate me".
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Doesn't she regularly say "I'm totally running for office now!" to rake in big bucks from Teabaggers before saying "eh gently caress it"? This is about as close as she ever gets
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