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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Debating whether i2 or i4 is more boring is like debating whether genital warts or herpes is better. What you want to get is neither (get a v-twin). Preach!
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Debating whether i2 or i4 is more boring is like debating whether genital warts or herpes is better. What you want to get is neither (get a v-twin). you mean v-four
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Oct 25, 2014 17:16
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Anything more than one cylinder is too many cylinders.
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Oct 25, 2014 17:22
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If we lived in a backwards universe where bikes started off as I4's and then V-twins were the late-comer engine championed by japanese brands and now dominating the market, rev and others would be waxing lyrical about the old-school power and smoothness and revvy balance of the glorious I4 compared to the agricultural, soulless lumpyness of the v-twin. Also lol @ saying P-twins are boring because of application choices; the exact same argument applies to I4's. Ride a literbike and tell me inline fours are boring.
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Oct 25, 2014 19:22
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Armchair Calvinist posted:Anything more than one cylinder is too many cylinders. Thumpthumpthumpthump
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Oct 25, 2014 23:06
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Slavvy posted:If we lived in a backwards universe where bikes started off as I4's and then V-twins were the late-comer engine championed by japanese brands and now dominating the market, rev and others would be waxing lyrical about the old-school power and smoothness and revvy balance of the glorious I4 compared to the agricultural, soulless lumpyness of the v-twin.
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Oct 26, 2014 00:44
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My Bandit is still the most terrifying motorcycle I've ever ridden but that's because it's an I-4 that thinks it's a V-twin. Bore out inline, best of both worlds.
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Oct 26, 2014 01:21
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Nitrox posted:I rode a Kawasaki something 1000 and didn't care for it at all. Now what I agree, the versys 1000 is pretty poo poo  Armchair Calvinist posted:My Bandit is still the most terrifying motorcycle I've ever ridden but that's because it's an I-4 that thinks it's a V-twin. Bore out inline, best of both worlds. Yeah this is the conclusion I've reached. Ideally I'd want a gigantic retarded I4, a decent v-twin and a V-four sportbike.
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Oct 26, 2014 01:35
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Is there any benefit or reason to tell a dealer that you're looking for a used model of a bike? I can't imagine they can do much other than notifying you if one gets traded in.
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Oct 26, 2014 05:13
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Nope. Go to some bike meets and tell people that you're looking for that bike.
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Oct 26, 2014 05:18
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:you mean v-four
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Oct 26, 2014 05:29
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P twins are cool if they are 2t or if they are mv agustas from the 60s. I've owned pretty much every type of common configuration out there except any of the 6 cly things out there. VTwins are objectively the best motor for a street bike. Even the Harley twin is pretty nice, they are just bolted to total poo poo.
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Oct 26, 2014 06:53
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We can all agree V-twins are the best, the question is, what is second bestest? I vote HO Thumpers
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Oct 26, 2014 10:38
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Spiffness posted:We can all agree V-twins are the best, the question is, what is second bestest? V-4 engines. Aprilia Tuono V4R, RSV4R, Honda VFR, Yamaha V-Max. Pretty stellar lineup of excellent motorcycles right there, none can be complained about. e: forgot the "4" in RSV4R
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Oct 26, 2014 14:09
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Professor Wayne posted:Right now, this DRZ is my top contender. I've been talking to the seller and will look at it in a few days. What do you guys think? I plan on taking the soda stickers off.
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Oct 26, 2014 23:10
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Slavvy posted:If we lived in a backwards universe where bikes started off as I4's and then V-twins were the late-comer engine championed by japanese brands and now dominating the market, rev and others would be waxing lyrical about the old-school power and smoothness and revvy balance of the glorious I4 compared to the agricultural, soulless lumpyness of the v-twin. The big number at the top is pretty exciting but you have to get to those big numbers for it to be exciting. A good twin will put a grin on your face going from 0-30 off the lights.
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Professor Wayne posted:Just looked the this DRZ. It could be in better shape. It has a switch instead of an ignition key, no back pegs, finicky clutch, and it's all pasti-dipped and stickered out. It was a lot of fun to test ride, though. I can't decide if I want to lowball or walk. $3700 might be a bit much for a drz with 19k miles and just a slipon. Plastidip doesn't mean much on a bike where you can get a full new set of plastics for about $130 though. In what way was the clutch finicky? E: A switch in place of an ignition key would make me wary of ever taking it anywhere. Marxalot fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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Oct 26, 2014 23:56
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Marxalot posted:$3700 might be a bit much for a drz with 19k miles and just a slipon. Plastidip doesn't mean much on a bike where you can get a full new set of plastics for about $130 though. The clutch just needs adjusting, I think. It doesn't engage until you've almost completely let go of it. I would guess it's not a huge deal to adjust on my own, but I'm still a bit of a newbie. I would definitely get an ignition kit first thing before taking it out. I think they run about 120 if I want a kit that includes the gas cap. edit- The fact that I'm so much on the fence about this is a good enough sign for me. Texting the guy now and backing out. Professor Wayne fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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Oct 27, 2014 00:31
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The big number at the top is pretty exciting but you have to get to those big numbers for it to be exciting. A good twin will put a grin on your face going from 0-30 off the lights. My ZRX was perfectly capable of doing that too. It's more about the way the engine is tuned, the type of bike and the aim of the manufacturer. Fours are just much easier (hint: CHEAPER!) to make into a screaming powerhouse. Arguing over engine configurations based on preference is all to the good, but debating them in an engineering sense just shows how far out of their depth most people on here are. Every engine that puts a smile on your face is a good engine. Except for parallel twins 
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I'm not going to sit around and wait for another DRZ to pop up in my area. I think I can survive on a more standard bike. Here are some choices I found today that look promising: 2006 CBR Honda 599 Hornet http://nashville.craigslist.org/mcy/4650608209.html Seems like a pretty good bike for a pretty good price. Does have a good bit more horsepower than I'm used to. Also, it's pretty. 2002 Suzuki GS500 Black 6-speed 487cc http://nashville.craigslist.org/mcd/4650824406.html Seems like a nice-sized bike for someone with my experience. I actually just called the dealership and they sold that particular one the other day, but got a 2009 model in today they want to sell for about $2.9k. The new one does have fairings, which I don't love. 2006 Yamaha FZ6 http://nashville.craigslist.org/mcy/4697859434.html These are all over craigslist. On one hand, their popularity might mean that it's a good all-around bike for a decent price. But on the other hand, it might be a challenge to sell again in a year or so when I want something nicer. Any of these jump out at anyone as a solid pick?
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Oct 27, 2014 22:00
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Haven't ridden any of these, but the hornet looks like a smokin' deal. I would guess there's more to the story, perhaps high miles or the obligatory drop that seems to always occur at 5mph in these ads.
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I think going from a DRZ to a GS500 would leave you pretty disappointed. The other two are a decent step up though.
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Oct 27, 2014 22:27
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Hornets are supposed to be great bikes. I'd have a look up close.
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Oct 27, 2014 22:29
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Professor Wayne posted:2006 CBR Honda 599 Hornet I've been looking into Honda 599s myself and this is a good price at least compared to what I've been seeing around here on CL.
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Thanks for the feedback, guys. I called the guy and am arranging to take a look at it Wednesday. Hopefully I will be able to sneak off work for a bit during lunch.
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Oct 27, 2014 22:37
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You should be looking at that 599 yesterday. It looks like it might be a little mish mash of parts - those wheels don't look stock. Very nice price for a very solid bike. Trigger warning - it has carbs.
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$6500 for a 17k mile 2007 bike is too much right? My friend brought one of these brand new towards the end of their manufacture and he let me ride it a few times before he moved. Blew my hair back. Kawasaki Mean Streak. http://www.bobzbikz.com/2007-Kawasaki-Mean-Streak-Special-Edition-Kingman-Kansas-67068/5148343 Or..... http://www.bobzbikz.com/2008-Triumph-Rocket-III-Kingman-Kansas-67068/5141272 If anyone wants to craigslist for a nice 1000cc+ cruiser in my area... craigslist with 67220. Want to buy this fall to get my savings on. Prefer a dealer just... I got a good negotiator and if it goes to poo poo I have the resources to resolve it without small claims court. Wendigee fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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n8r posted:You should be looking at that 599 yesterday. It looks like it might be a little mish mash of parts - those wheels don't look stock. Very nice price for a very solid bike. Trigger warning - it has carbs. They look like the factory wheels painted gold. It also has a bunch of ebay wank-wank poo poo bolted to it by the look. They also don't come with USD forks, I wonder what they fell off of? He went to the trouble of swapping the forks but keeping the factory brakes. craigslist listing posted:this bike is lighter and faster than a regular CBR 600 Haha what?
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Slavvy posted:They look like the factory wheels painted gold. It also has a bunch of ebay wank-wank poo poo bolted to it by the look. They also don't come with USD forks, I wonder what they fell off of? He went to the trouble of swapping the forks but keeping the factory brakes. I was curious about this as well but when I started reading it looks like they changed things up to a USD fork configuration in 2006. The article claims they didn't even bother importing any in 2005 due to lackluster sales. So I'm going to guess that outside of the occasional harmless farkle, that is an otherwise 100% stock bike. Looks good, I always wanted a Hornet myself but could never find one for a reasonable price. I'd jump on it and ride it until the apocalypse because it's a Honda.
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Ripoff posted:I was curious about this as well but when I started reading it looks like they changed things up to a USD fork configuration in 2006. The article claims they didn't even bother importing any in 2005 due to lackluster sales. So I'm going to guess that outside of the occasional harmless farkle, that is an otherwise 100% stock bike. Huh. Those rat bastards, the 919 had to soldier on with conventional forks until it was replaced! I've also literally never seen a hornet 600 with USD's before so I assumed it wasn't factory. Learned something today!
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Slavvy posted:Huh. Those rat bastards, the 919 had to soldier on with conventional forks until it was replaced! I've also literally never seen a hornet 600 with USD's before so I assumed it wasn't factory. Learned something today! Honda has a hard-on for putting conventional forks on their high-dollar bikes while giving the smaller, cheaper units USD tech. See the $11,000 Honda CB1100 versus the freaking Grom. I love Honda like a fat kid loves cake but those guys make some weird decisions. 
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I'm not sure what's weirder, the radial brakes attached to conventional forks on the new VFR800, or ABS being only available with the dual clutch transmission on the NC700X.
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Is a GPZ 550 too much bike for a beginner? I have my MSF and I've ridden a lot of scooters in Asia but never stateside. 6' 200lbs here. I looked into the new Ninja 300 as well. http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/4690487014.html
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Not a bad bike, but it is old. Budget for a few hundred dollars worth of repairs (in addition to wear items like tires) at least a couple times a year, I'd say.
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Ripoff posted:Honda has a hard-on for putting conventional forks on their high-dollar bikes while giving the smaller, cheaper units USD tech. See the $11,000 Honda CB1100 versus the freaking Grom. USD is hardly tech and frankly for street bikes (and probably most mere mortals riding sportbikes at the track) it makes very little difference. They're usually stiffer but I think that's about it. You can put fancy internals in either type of fork.
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n8r posted:USD is hardly tech and frankly for street bikes (and probably most mere mortals riding sportbikes at the track) it makes very little difference. They're usually stiffer but I think that's about it. You can put fancy internals in either type of fork. This debate rages endlessly in mountainbike forums, expect there's a preference for standard forks. Frankly, if it's a good quality fork with good internals and tolerances both should perform fine.
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n8r posted:USD is hardly tech and frankly for street bikes (and probably most mere mortals riding sportbikes at the track) it makes very little difference. They're usually stiffer but I think that's about it. You can put fancy internals in either type of fork. There's less unspring weight with USD forks but again like you say for 99.9% of road riders it won't make a lick of difference. (I think USD forks look cooler though, and I suspect that's probably as far as most people's real underlying caring about the difference comes from)
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Oct 29, 2014 00:46
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Professor Wayne posted:2006 CBR Honda 599 Hornet
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so I'm looking at getting my first bike. Passed MSF last weekend and got my license on Monday. I have a couple of dumb questions when looking at used bikes, though. 1) What's good, acceptable mileage for bikes? How would you translate "bike" miles to "car" miles? I see one huge 1500cc bike with 30k miles on it for instance, and a nice honda shadow RS ( THIS GUY) with 4600 miles on it. What would you say the ranges for "low miles" and "high miles" are? Looking at gear (helmets specifically) and see huge price differences for helmets that look similar to me. I see things like THIS for $50, while I see THIS (which is probably what i'm leaning to get) all the way to expensive as hell helmets like THIS. What are some of the differences that make some of these so expensive and others so cheap? What kind of things should I look at?
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Don't get an open-face helmet, guy. As long as it's a SNELL or ECE rated fullface, it'll be fine. More expensive = lighter, quieter, better build quality of non-structural components. Don't get an open face helmet.
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