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CommieGIR posted:Its kind of sad though, because they don't get called out on it by their own party enough.... Nobody calls people out in their own party.
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Yes, they loving do. What is with you lately? All your recent posts have this weird "both sides have good points" equivocation feel to them. Sometimes people are just racist, sexist, greedy assholes. After a certain point there's not really anything left to do but condemn and oppose them.
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Oct 28, 2014 15:26
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Gee sorry I'm not participating in the "boy I sure do hate the Republican party" fest everywhere. I thought that was a given and didn't need to constantly be repeated. It's cool to sit around and be mad at the state GOP and fume and post words about it on the Internet or I could recognize them as people with complex motivations and histories and try to understand why they feel and act the way they do instead of assuming the all sit in their smoke filled rooms cackling and rubbing their hands together at the thought of screwing over minorities and women. This dehumanization of the other side that both parties do is like the #1 reason politics in the US is an intractable dysfunctional mess but hey if it makes you feel better, go ahead.
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Oct 28, 2014 15:40
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That's a strawman and you know it.
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Oct 28, 2014 15:43
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No more than "all my posts are equivocation" because I think that the electorate couldn't tolerate a Connollyesque statement.
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Oct 28, 2014 15:45
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zoux posted:No more than "all my posts are equivocation" because I think that the electorate couldn't tolerate a Connollyesque statement. Zoux, go out, drive to Buda, Karnes, Bee county, etc, talk with people in those places, go to the wealthy areas of austin, Houston, San antonio, meet them as I have, Talk with lobbiests, lawyers, prison guards, architects and all the various sorts, and see that they really are cackling in smoke filled rooms at the the thought of screwing over minorities and women.
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Oct 28, 2014 15:55
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Swan Oat posted:What about ethics in games journalism? Will Dan Patrick and Greg Abbott tackle this. Ethics in government is actually a really important issue in this state. We've had some spectacular conflict-of-interest cases in the state legislator, and now that there is some major statewide journalism happening statewide thanks to the Texas Tribune, people are starting to see just how bad it's gotten. (And also seeing just how a lot of our laws are preventing disclosure that would reveal even more conflicts of interest.)
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Oct 28, 2014 16:55
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Gahmah posted:Zoux, go out, drive to Buda, Karnes, Bee county, etc, talk with people in those places, go to the wealthy areas of austin, Houston, San antonio, meet them as I have, Talk with lobbiests, lawyers, prison guards, architects and all the various sorts, and see that they really are cackling in smoke filled rooms at the the thought of screwing over minorities and women.  zoux posted:This dehumanization of the other side that both parties do is like the #1 reason politics in the US is an intractable dysfunctional mess but hey if it makes you feel better, go ahead.
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Oct 28, 2014 18:10
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Right, nevermind Republicans do it and win, but Democrats are supposed to be above that or something and win (lose).
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Oct 28, 2014 19:49
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Nonsense posted:Right, nevermind Republicans do it and win, but Democrats are supposed to be above that or something and win (lose). Republicans ability to say awful things and get elected has less to do with it being an effective tactic and more about the structural advantage Republicans have in the places they get away with saying awful things.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:55
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Trabisnikof posted:Republicans ability to say awful things and get elected has less to do with it being an effective tactic and more about the structural advantage Republicans have in the places they get away with saying awful things. Not to mention the crowd they appeal to that absolutely lap up awful things.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:55
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CommieGIR posted:Not to mention the crowd they appeal to that absolutely lap up awful things. Sure, but that exists on both sides. There are many liberal audiences that will lap up awful things about Republicans, they just don't sway elections outside of Austin City Council.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:58
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Trabisnikof posted:Sure, but that exists on both sides. There are many liberal audiences that will lap up awful things about Republicans, they just don't sway elections outside of Austin City Council. I didn't mean dirt slinging just between parties, but the dirt slinging that the GOP tends to throw in the Texas political rings at groups like immigrants, liberals, progressives, women, etc. Regardless of the Dems in Texas say some poo poo about the GOP, the amount of mud the GOP finds time to throw outside of the political circle against people that are essentially their own constituents baffles me.
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Oct 28, 2014 20:01
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CommieGIR posted:I didn't mean dirt slinging just between parties, but the dirt slinging that the GOP tends to throw in the Texas political rings at groups like immigrants, liberals, progressives, women, etc. I'm saying that you'll find liberals do that same poo poo all the time, just it doesn't matter in Texas because liberals have no power. You might be surprised about how quickly the insults will fly against the rural poor/hunters/middle class families/etc from otherwise progressive people.
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Oct 28, 2014 20:05
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Guys, guys, guys, the truth is in the middle. The left often says that the rightwingers are completely unamerican sleeper terrorists on national television, and is well known to be in the business of denying people rights, while calling them inhuman monsters whose sins will destroy the nation and spread disease. I mean I just saw the Michael Moore documentary about how Evangelicals are a blight upon this earth and must be eradicated completely.
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Oct 28, 2014 20:41
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If you ever find yourself posting unironically "the truth is in the middle  " please stop posting forever. It's using the fact that people on this board hate South Park to promote loving extremeism and absolve the left of any kind of accountablity or blame. I get really loving mad when I see Republicans accusing Dems of doing things they do or have done themselves and if you think it's fine for D's to do the same to their opponents but not for the R's to do you are officially part of the problem.
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Oct 28, 2014 20:51
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Well that was empty, anyone had any luck with talking to others about voting for the transport money/proposition thing? Some of the drivers at my work are against voting for it because of "debt" and also that it isn't their ideal solution of loving ski lift chairs going all around Austin. There is lovely stuff about the proposition as I understand it, but what are some ways of talking to people to bring them down from, "not my ideal solution" towards progress? Also motivating people to get out and vote rather than feel apathetic, I am physically strong enough to overpower them and take them to the polls but that seems immoral.
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Oct 28, 2014 21:01
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zoux posted:If you ever find yourself posting unironically "the truth is in the middle
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Oct 28, 2014 21:06
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Nobody can be accountable for photo ID and denying voters the right to vote other than Republicans. It was as transparent a power play as all get out and when people are presented with evidence of little to no voter fraud, you hear the same fallacies about bank accounts and poo poo. So while the Dems are terrible, the Republicans are off the loving map. zoux posted:Nobody calls people out in their own party. Also, the Dems were glad to throw Kesha Rogers under the bus.
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Oct 28, 2014 21:16
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If 20 percent of the hardcore base were LaRouchites, they wouldn't have.
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Oct 28, 2014 21:18
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From a conservative point-of-view, but I like Michael Dougherty and think this interesting: http://theweek.com/article/index/270740/how-wendy-davis-became-the-todd-akin-of-the-2014-midterms Basic argument is that while Republicans have imploded on social issues, this doesn't necessarily rebound to the Democrats' benefit. A Democrat that becomes very closely associated with social issues (like Wendy Davis, and Mark Udall in Colorado) struggle because of it. quote:I'm a social conservative through and through. I think that social issues are legitimate political issues, and that it is important to debate them. But social issues are rating near the bottom of voter concerns heading into the 2014 election. Abortion and other social issues rarely rate more than a few percentage points above zero when Gallup polls voters on their concerns. It turns out that the Republican implosion on social issues in 2012 was not a prelude to Democratic triumphs on the same.
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Oct 28, 2014 21:25
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As an aside, the pro-rail Austin flyers in my mail are hilarious. I think the plan is a boondoggle but I love their marketing/propaganda. I want to hang it up on my fridge. Like the "Greetings From Austin: The Traffic Capitol of Texas" in the mural-artwork style, but instead of the Stevie Ray Vaughan statue and buildings making up the lettering, it's traffic jams. Oh, and the one with the big words CLUSTER&$@*!
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Oct 28, 2014 22:19
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Omi-Polari posted:As an aside, the pro-rail Austin flyers in my mail are hilarious. I think the plan is a boondoggle but I love their marketing/propaganda. I want to hang it up on my fridge. Like the "Greetings From Austin: The Traffic Capitol of Texas" in the mural-artwork style, but instead of the Stevie Ray Vaughan statue and buildings making up the lettering, it's traffic jams. Oh, and the one with the big words CLUSTER&$@*! What exactly makes it a "boondoggle" in your mind?
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Oct 28, 2014 22:22
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zoux posted:If you ever find yourself posting unironically "the truth is in the middle But nothing you can really do about it.
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Trabisnikof posted:What exactly makes it a "boondoggle" in your mind? quote:I'll just sum up my own criticism of the Prop. 1plan by saying that I've consistently seen it as a sort of "urban jewelry" approach to rail transit — in this case, primarily an expensive amenity for a faction of local real estate developers, plus expansion ambitions by the University of Texas administration — rather than a bona fide effort to address real mobility needs and traffic congestion. For that, our alternative plan, routed in a central corridor defined by major arterials called North Lamar and Guadalupe St., seems a far better option. As a recent article in Austin Rail Now explains, a route serving that corridor would likely cost half as much as the official $1.4 billion, 9.5-mile plan, while offering the prospect of three times as much ridership.
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Oct 28, 2014 22:36
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Badger of Basra posted:We actually asked him about gentrification and his response was "hey at least they get a good price when they sell and move out!" 
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Oct 28, 2014 22:45
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blackguy32 posted:Also, the Dems were glad to throw Kesha Rogers under the bus. Kesha Rogers' #1 policy priority was impeaching Obama on the theory that http://www.kesharogers.com/impeach_obama posted:President Barack H. Obama is willfully advancing the post-9/11 banker's dictatorship initiated by his predecessor, George W. Bush, Jr., and must be legally removed from office immediately, by impeachment, resignation, or Section IV of the 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Like, No True Scotsman or whatever, but I don't think there's a whole lot of room in the Democratic Party for a candidate who's laser-focused on removing the sitting Democratic president before he can impose martial law and start WW3.
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Oct 28, 2014 23:21
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Well, she got 2nd place in the first part of the primary, which is kind of comical and sad at the same time.
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Oct 29, 2014 00:03
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In the Arlington area state senate race (Libby Wilis-D vs Konni Burton-R) some anti-Willis PAC sent out this hilarious  GAY PANIC!!! flier.
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Oct 29, 2014 02:45
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Xarthor posted:In the Arlington area state senate race (Libby Wilis-D vs Konni Burton-R) some anti-Willis PAC sent out this hilarious At least they spelt candidates name right 
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Oct 29, 2014 03:00
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Ohh if y'all aren't reading Lone Star Q y'all should: http://www.lonestarq.com/ John Wright needs all the readers he can get.
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Oct 29, 2014 03:08
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zoux posted:If you ever find yourself posting unironically "the truth is in the middle you are bad at reading and understanding things. Or I am. Whatever. Alls I know is that even though she's going to lose? We should all stand with Wendy, because Abbott can't.
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Oct 29, 2014 03:38
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I'm not standing with Wendy. I'm standing near Wendy, but also kinda looking around puzzled.
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Oct 29, 2014 04:24
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lol anyone here represented by Dawna Dukes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R6N25LO040
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Oct 29, 2014 04:31
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Aliquid posted:lol anyone here represented by Dawna Dukes? I mean nothing inaccurate was said there. I gotta say if your main ad is "haha I can roll faster than traffic right?! (cut the budget)" it's fair game to say you do in fact roll around.
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Oct 29, 2014 04:40
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It would be more insensitive to say walks around, I think.
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Oct 29, 2014 04:48
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oh my god Texas Democrats are the worst
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Oct 29, 2014 05:43
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The man rolls and, again in fairness he made it a literal campaign ad first. So just so I have it clear, the way Abbot is just under siege for being disabled is: 1) It was said it's pretty hosed up that a guy in a wheelchair who profited off the legal system wants to deny that right to others in equal situations. 2) Some rando talking to a crowd of what fifty said he 'rolls around' when normally she'd say 'walk' or 'strut', both would be legitimately rather tasteless to say RE a disabled dude who cannot either walk nor strut.
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Oct 29, 2014 05:53
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That also is a valid thing to say, yes, but it's not a loving attack to say the man rolls. She didn't call him a gimp or something, she used the correct verb for the thing he does to move.
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