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Jerusalem posted:Reasonable? Yeah sure. But the strength of that scene before they explicitly showed it was that it was up to each individual viewer to imagine what it could have been and that gave it a universal strength that no reveal could ever hope to match. 2spooky
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How is that goofy nonsense not worse than anything RTD did? Good Lord.
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Jerusalem posted:
I suppose this is probably good preparation for whatever fresh horrors Moffat has for in the finale.
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Yes, that's stupid and bad, but have you also considered that
2. There is no 2
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Oct 29, 2014 03:09
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Well Manicured Man posted:2. There is no 2 No, there's definitely a number 2 all right.
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I actually really liked A Good Man Goes To War aside from the last few minutes. I don't really mind River being Amy and Rory's kid, I just hated the attitude of "let's skip over all the interesting and complicated characterization we'd otherwise have to do involving a grieving couple who's had their child stolen from them and jump straight into the interesting bits", especially when the interesting bits weren't that interesting. (Loved the miniature giant robot spaceship though, when I could see it through all the  THIS IS HOW THE DOCTOR IS GOING TO SURVIVE HIS INEVITABLE DEATH signs.) I'm living in hope that the finale answers the important questions about Missy's identity: Why should I care and, no seriously, why should I care?
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Oct 29, 2014 03:43
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Thunderfinger posted:No, there's definitely a number 2 all right. Indeed. 
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Oct 29, 2014 03:48
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Well Manicured Man posted:Yes, that's stupid and bad, but have you also considered that I agree, I laughed my head off at that. I do like a few things about that episode:the gradual reveal that the Doctor and Churchill have been fighting a horde of Silence while chatting (though I think the "one tally mark on the arm, phew it's fine, look at other arm and it's covered in tally marks" thing had already been done), Dorium is good, and I love the reveal of how the Doctor survived: "actually, thinking about it..." I didn't like two main things: The Doctor marries River for no reason. Or possibly because it's a way to make her do what he wants. Neither interpretation is good. Also, the Silence wanted to kill the Doctor but made no effort to lure him to the place they needed him to be at the time they needed him to be there. The Doctor only knew about Lake Silencio because he was actively investigating the plot against him. I can't imagine a sloppier assassination plan.
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Jerusalem posted:I still get a kick out of the fact that the majority of The Wedding of River Song is the Doctor having already solved the problem and having to deal with the complications that have arisen from his idiot friends trying to help and just constantly making things worse. The episode fell apart in execution, but I still love it for that, and the setting. Condense the plot into about a paragraph and it's fantastic.
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docbeard posted:I actually really liked A Good Man Goes To War aside from the last few minutes. I don't really mind River being Amy and Rory's kid, I just hated the attitude of "let's skip over all the interesting and complicated characterization we'd otherwise have to do involving a grieving couple who's had their child stolen from them and jump straight into the interesting bits", especially when the interesting bits weren't that interesting. (Loved the miniature giant robot spaceship though, when I could see it through all the Ironically a Good Man Goes to War does a better job of "The Doctor is a Soldier" than anything this season has. It's a nice little twist on how much he claims to be a man of peace, yet he really did just take a highly-guarded military base without firing a single shot.
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I think the main redeeming feature of AGMGTW and LKH is that you can try and convince someone who hasn't watched the series that they form a two-parter
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The Wedding of River Song also gave us the music that was used for the Curator scene in Day of the Doctor. That alone redeems it. 
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HD DAD posted:Speaking finales, I honestly do not remember a thing that happened in The Wedding of River Song. In my memory, it's just a string of unrelated scenes and zero context that ends on a pyramid? There's eyepatches or something too. Wasn't there a blue head in a box screaming "DOCTOR WHO?!?!" repeatedly right near the end?
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PriorMarcus posted:Also, on rewatch, knowing that the Crack is in the Doctor's room is silly as gently caress and makes no sense to his character at all. Since the crack is in room #11, I like to imagine that it would have contained different things for every incarnation of the Doctor. That almost makes the reveal tolerable, almost.
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Oct 29, 2014 08:19
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A Good Man Goes To War is a good episode because it reaffirms that Rory is a badass.
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Oct 29, 2014 09:01
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Pwnstar posted:A Good Man Goes To War is a good episode because it reaffirms that Rory is a badass. "Would you like me to repeat the question?" Oh, Rory. 
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Oct 29, 2014 09:15
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TinTower posted:Oh, Rory. Seriously, best companion. Well, best companion bar Evelyn.
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Oct 29, 2014 09:46
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Pwnstar posted:A Good Man Goes To War is a good episode because it reaffirms that Rory is a badass. I was seriously hoping Centurion Rory was going to rescue Amy from the Headless Monks and Madame K by showing up with a platoon of Cybermen at his command.
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Oct 29, 2014 10:48
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Well I finished Unit: Dominion and now I love Alex MacQueen (more). At first I thought he was just being a little too over-the-top but I think he manages to maintain just the right balance of campy nonsense with sinister undertones. I do feel a little silly for jumping ahead to the story though, as it reveals a couple of pretty major things that happened in Big Finish continuity-wise. Oh well, it's gonna take me forever to catch up anyway, I'm still working on stories from 2005.
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Oct 29, 2014 11:08
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I'm listening to Gallifrey's third season now and boy does everything turn to utter chaos quickly. The second season is all about investigating the political intrigue, but once the mystery is solved, with a great surprise I might add, it's amazing how hopeless things feel. I'm really looking forward to more of it; I kind of assume it's the Big Finish way of leading up to the Time War without directly saying so, although there's nothing to confirm that yet.
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I'm going to buy Dark Eyes next. What's the general consensus? Also, is there an on going plot between the three parts?
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Oct 29, 2014 14:32
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BSam posted:Seriously, best companion. Well, best companion bar Evelyn. And Ace. I mean, seriously, girl attacked a Dalek with a baseball bat. Because it called her small.
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PriorMarcus posted:I'm going to buy Dark Eyes next. What's the general consensus? Also, is there an on going plot between the three parts? As far as I know, and I agree with the opinion, Dark Eyes 1 is superior to Dark Eyes 2. But that's "great" versus "pretty good". There is an over-arcing plot though I think you could get through 2 without listening to 1, due to context clues/exposition. I get the sense that as we get further into the series, the ties between the "series" will be getting stronger - but it's really only hinted at now. For those who have heard them both Am I remembering correctly that The Master was the one who sent the funds/plans to Sally Armstrong in the Dark Eyes 1 timeline? I believe he mentions something about that when he's Dr. De'ath (still lol at that). And yes, Dark Eyes 3 was originally listed as October. It was changed to November at some point. edit: TinTower posted:And Ace. I mean, seriously, girl attacked a Dalek with a baseball bat. Because it called her small. It's amusing that according to the audios, there's an alien world out there with a statue of Ace and her baseball bat - I guess she thought it worked pretty well. You would think they'd fix that weakness but meh.
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BSam posted:Seriously, best companion. Well, best companion bar Evelyn. I can't ever take you seriously again. Wilf. All day. Everyday.
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Spikeguy posted:I can't ever take you seriously again. Wilf. All day. Everyday. Wilf is goddamn fantastic but he's a very static character. Evelyn isn't.
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McGann posted:It's amusing that according to the audios, there's an alien world out there with a statue of Ace and her baseball bat - I guess she thought it worked pretty well. You would think they'd fix that weakness but meh. Given that it was powered by the Hand of Omega, that baseball bat could probably destroy a star.
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McGann posted:
Haha. Do you remember which one that is? It's probably enough of a throwaway line that I've already heard it and forgotten, but if not I know I'll have it to look forward to.
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Oct 29, 2014 16:58
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The audio with the Ace statue is the third story in the second Klein trilogy.
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DoctorWhat posted:The audio with the Ace statue is the third story in the second Klein trilogy. I checked and it's Daleks Among Us, which is the most spoilerific title of all time considering the plot. Plus the statue itself makes no sense considering they're ignoring the Dalek invasion(s), historically and contemporary, why would they leave up a statue to a hero of the Dalek War? but those stories weren't the greatest. Which sucks, because I enjoy the UNIT: Dominion version of Klein (and everything to do with Dominion, actually).
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Oct 29, 2014 17:42
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DoctorWhat posted:Wilf is goddamn fantastic but he's a very static character. Evelyn isn't.
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If we're talking revival then obviously it's Donna as the best companion without any possible argument or exception unless somehow your opinion differs from mine. Taking the classic series into account, I'm always tied between Jamie and Sarah Jane - but throw Jamie into any trio (Victoria, Zoe, Peri) and he's goddamn magic.
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I didn't like Sarah Jane as much as a lot of people. She was okay and I liked her a lot better than Jo, but I actually like all of Four's other companions better except of course for the imbecile.
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I'm a big fan of Harry
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Oct 29, 2014 21:25
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Maybe Bicyclops was talking about Adric? 
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None of Five's companions count as companions for Four, even if most of them would have been better suited as Four's companions. 
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Oct 29, 2014 21:29
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Bicyclops posted:None of Five's companions count as companions for Four, even if most of them would have been better suited as Four's companions. Adric is most closely associated with the 5th Doctor, but he had 5 stories with the 4th Doctor - that's 20 episodes! He was also a far more palatable character playing off against Tom Baker.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:39
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I've been rewatching the new series in order and I've hit Moffat's run and more importantly RORY'S FIRST DEATH! (And second counting the TARDIS 'sploding). This should be fun.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:47
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RodShaft posted:I've been rewatching the new series in order and I've hit Moffat's run and more importantly RORY'S FIRST DEATH! (And second counting the TARDIS 'sploding). How many times did Rory die before he left the show? There was him getting erased from history, the time in the Curse of the Black Spot, I guess you can count two in the Angels Take Manhattan...I'm forgetting some, I know.
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TL posted:How many times did Rory die before he left the show? There was him getting erased from history, the time in the Curse of the Black Spot, I guess you can count two in the Angels Take Manhattan...I'm forgetting some, I know. Not quite the same, but in Night Terrors when he and Amy end up in the weird doll's house he immediately decides they've died. "We're dead Amy! We've died.... again!"
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