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"New uncles"? I believe there's a perfect word to go there, my friend.
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Apoplexy posted:"New uncles"? I believe there's a perfect word to go there, my friend. What a missed opportunity. Have this to make up for it.
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Oct 28, 2014 07:09
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Problem with that theory is Balon Greyjoy isn't an interesting character, just a dickwad.
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Oct 28, 2014 09:29
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That's King Balon Greyjoy
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Oct 28, 2014 10:41
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MrL_JaKiri posted:300k words is the same length as AFFC The gently caress does that work? World of Ice & Fire is just 336 pages long. Where did all those hundreds of thousands of words go?
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Oct 28, 2014 11:01
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Hakkesshu posted:The gently caress does that work? World of Ice & Fire is just 336 pages long. Where did all those hundreds of thousands of words go? Words are wind, you see.
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Oct 28, 2014 11:17
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Mischitary posted:Edit: They could change things up dramatically and make one of the last episodes the battle of Winterfell and have one of the first episodes of season 6 be the battle of Meereen. Like, imagine if the first episode of season 6 was the battle of Meereen. It'd be like when Joffrey died in episode 2, nobody expects the big battle to be so early. So far, we only know that Qarth's not a side in the show, the Ironborn aren't either, the mercenary companies aren't either. This leaves Yunkai versus Meereen (and dragons). I'm not against the battle myself, I'm just saying to wait and see how the season unfolds. If it turns out that Hizdahr smoothed out the problems with Yunkai in between seasons, well. If there is no battle, though, that would be funny. Like if they chose to resolve the Meereeneese knot (one of them, anyhow) by not tying it in the first place. Also, as a reminder: there were comments from Martin that Dany and Tyrion spend a lot (most?) of TWOW apart. It's possible Dany doesn't return to Meereen at all, either in the show or in the books.
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Oct 28, 2014 12:06
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Kinda don't want the show spoiling the books for me.
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Hakkesshu posted:The gently caress does that work? World of Ice & Fire is just 336 pages long. Where did all those hundreds of thousands of words go? Wherever words go.
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Oct 28, 2014 12:55
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FogHelmut posted:Kinda don't want the show spoiling the books for me. It's going to happen, you might as well get used to it! I'm currently saving up to buy everyone in this and the TBB threads spoiler avatars based on the show 
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Oct 28, 2014 12:56
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 HERE BE SPOILERS I'm reading through the sample now, it's definitely a book meant to be a historian's view on the history of Westeros rather than a concrete laying out of the story bible. One interesting thing so far is the implication that the Long Winter caused the irregular seasons and that they haven't always been so weird. Also, ice spiders! 
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Oct 28, 2014 13:22
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webmeister posted:It's going to happen, you might as well get used to it! I'm currently saving up to buy everyone in this and the TBB threads spoiler avatars based on the show Save the money on the bad thread. They don't care.
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Oct 28, 2014 15:57
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So far (100 pages in), the World of Ice and Fire is pretty badly written, and quite lacking in flavor/detail. For a companion book detailing the reigns of all Targaryen kings, you'd think a maester would have more to say about the faith militant's attempt to assassinate Aegon the Conqueror than "stopped by a Kingsguard knight". It's written from an in-universe perspective but half the time you're asking yourself what the scope of the book is. It feels like a maester writing whatever comes to mind in his diary, with no real attention to detail. The GRRM sections are way better but there's not many of them.
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Oct 28, 2014 19:54
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I have read the first half of the book (past the historical narrative and to the point where it starts discussing each region individually) and I would say it is good so far, so long as you go in with the knowledge that it won't answer everything. There are a couple of instances where a story or historical anecdote feels like it should have been more detailed (as Ham shows above), but I would say they are few and far between. ps. Merlings confirmed real.
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In It For The Tank posted:ps. Merlings confirmed real.   awwwwww poo poo game-changer right here 
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Oct 28, 2014 20:08
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How does The World of Ice and Fire compare to The World of the Wheel of Time?
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Oct 28, 2014 20:23
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Only about 40 pages in TWOIAF but holy poo poo, the last Storm King just oozes  . I love the fact the book starts off with the maester crossing out Robert's name then Joff's and lastly puts Tommen's in place. Barely anything on the Long Night but some historians thinking the Others were just really tough wilding clans sounds pretty interesting.
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Oct 28, 2014 20:32
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In It For The Tank posted:ps. Merlings confirmed real. He has the book. The rest will come. drat GRRM is going Varys on us.
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Oct 28, 2014 20:34
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Scapegoat posted:He has the book. The rest will come. Never go full Varys.
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I loved reading about the other lands in the book. The Basilisk Isles sounded pretty neat and the Shadowlands just dripped of creepiness.
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Oct 28, 2014 21:06
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In It For The Tank posted:
My fake spoiler custom title will have the last laugh. 
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Interesting review from the race for the iron throne guy on how twoiaf reads as a fake work of history: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2014/10/building-world-ice-fire Also a more detailed analysis beginning here: http://racefortheironthrone.wordpress.com/2014/10/28/a-world-of-ice-and-fire-analysis-chapter-i-from-the-dawn-to-the-doom/ whowhatwhere fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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Oct 28, 2014 22:20
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Just starting to go through the book now and I can't stop reading it in Maester Pycelle's voice. Needless to say, it's taking a ponderously long time. Edit: I am loving this book, my lore boner is so hard right now you guys. Ballz fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Oct 29, 2014 00:24
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I love Pycelle. And Varys, for that matter. Every scene with either of them (Small Councils, especially) rule so hard. The one where Pycelle acted the dick to Tyrion and dropped the note of Robb's demise and Varys was visibly almost cracking up at Tyrion threatening Joffrey especially.
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Oct 29, 2014 03:23
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So am I the only one that thinks Dany will never see Westeros? I mean I love the crazy girl but dudes...if you think this has a happy ending you haven't been paying attention.
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Oct 29, 2014 03:30
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Fragmented posted:So am I the only one that thinks Dany will never see Westeros? I mean I love the crazy girl but dudes...if you think this has a happy ending you haven't been paying attention. It could still be an unhappy ending if and when she gets there! She crashes her dragon into the wall, killing Jon and Stannis, leaving Moonboy as the one true king.
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Oct 29, 2014 03:35
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Yestermoment posted:It could still be an unhappy ending if and when she gets there! She crashes her dragon into the wall, killing Jon and Stannis, leaving Moonboy as the one true king. Maester 1: "So who's next in line now?" Maester 2: "Probably Moon Boy for all I know!" *Moon Boy's crowned*
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Oct 29, 2014 03:42
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Fragmented posted:So am I the only one that thinks Dany will never see Westeros? I mean I love the crazy girl but dudes...if you think this has a happy ending you haven't been paying attention. Of course it won't have a happy ending - Dany's entire arc in DWD drives home to her that she's a conqueror, not a Queen. She will make it to Westeros, but only once the politics of Robert's ultimate succession has finally settled down. This will of course spark another civil war, and she'll die in the climactic battle with Jon Snow and his army of Others. Jon conquers King's Landing with his unstoppable army and claims the throne for the Starks. He immediately abdicates and rides off into night, his last act being to crown Queen Sansa, First of Her Name. Sansa honours her original marriage to Tyrion, uniting the two key houses of Westeros and ending the civil war for good. The final chapter of the series will be from Rickon's POV, watching Davos wade ashore on Skaagos and listening politely while Davos announces his plan to crown Rickon, aided by Stannis and Darkstar.
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I'm loving AWoIAF so far. There's just so much poo poo in here. Also, if there's one thing that there better be a ton of in TWoW it's goddamn ice spiders. Almost every single time we're told about the Others the first thing they say is that they rode giant ice spiders and it's no different here. This is totally a case of Chekov's ice spider. meristem posted:I think we can agree that Dany needs to drop in Westeros by the end of season 6, right? It's not the books, she has to get there sometime. Work back from it and see if there is time/space in the beginning of S6 for battle preparations/battle/battle outcome. It's entirely possible that Dany never returns to Meereen but that doesn't defeat the necessity of a battle occurring. They've already pointed out that Yunkai and Astapor have fallen back into their slaver ways in the show, and they even sent Daario to try and smooth things out. I don't think it's very good storytelling if Daario just shows back up and says "I handled it it's all good now" and Dany marries Hizdahr like everyone wants and they all live happily ever after until she decides that she wants to go back to Westeros. I don't know, the television show is definitely different from the books, and things do not have to follow logically. Mischitary fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Oct 29, 2014 04:41
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Still upset there weren't any spiders in that shot of the Land of Always Winter in Season 4.
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Lycus posted:Still upset there weren't any spiders in that shot of the Land of Always Winter in Season 4. Used up that budget to have Jojen get killed by the Hyrule Field Stalchildren.
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Oct 29, 2014 05:30
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Lycus posted:Still upset there weren't any spiders in that shot of the Land of Always Winter in Season 4. Ice spiders legit freak me out. I had a dream about them the other night(I have a lot of dreams) But gently caress them.Ice spiders aaaahhhhhhh
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Lycus posted:Still upset there weren't any spiders in that shot of the Land of Always Winter in Season 4. When was this shot? In Bran's vision or something? Edit: Oh yeah, totally forgot about that. RCarr fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Oct 29, 2014 19:40
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When we saw the Night's King at the end of "Oathbreaker", though we don't actually know where that scene was set.
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What are the chances that Jaime is going to be killed in Dorne? The books are building up to a confrontation between him and Brienne, but without Stoneheart that can't happen. I don't recall them casting anyone for the Kingsguard guy in Dorne (correct me if I'm wrong), so having Jaime killed in his place seems like something that could happen.
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Sam. posted:What are the chances that Jaime is going to be killed in Dorne? The books are building up to a confrontation between him and Brienne, but without Stoneheart that can't happen. I don't recall them casting anyone for the Kingsguard guy in Dorne (correct me if I'm wrong), so having Jaime killed in his place seems like something that could happen. Meryn Trant is going to be in Dorne.
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Oct 29, 2014 20:30
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Meryn Trant is going to Braavos with Mace Tyrel to be offed by Arya. Jaime won't die in Dorne. Whatever impact ser Oakhart's death has to the overall story couldn't possibly compare to whatever Jaime does so it's an event that can easily be cut.
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Mischitary posted:It's entirely possible that Dany never returns to Meereen but that doesn't defeat the necessity of a battle occurring. She's got two dragons chilling in Meereen. I mean, she doesn't have to go back, but I don't think she'd straight up abandon them to go conquer Westeros.
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lifts cats over head posted:Meryn Trant is going to Braavos with Mace Tyrel to be offed by Arya. Jaime won't die in Dorne. Whatever impact ser Oakhart's death has to the overall story couldn't possibly compare to whatever Jaime does so it's an event that can easily be cut. I think the problem is that we don't know what it is that Jaime does. He could very well die in or after his confrontation with LS, and since LS is not in the show, why not have him die in Dorne? It's not that they'll have him do what Oakheart did, it's that they have him do what he might do in the books, but somewhere else.
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I think I'd be kinda pissed if a POV character died in a show-only plotline.
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