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Uncle Boogeyman posted:yeah The Avengers is by no means a great looking movie but the first Harry Potter has gotta be one of the fugliest blockbusters of all time Especially when you compare it to contemporaneous films - even The Mummy 2, a movie that is literally unfinished, looks better. Nevermind Lord of the Rings, Black Hawk Down, etc.
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PriorMarcus posted:Except that once Prisoner came out the entire look of the films changed. The Columbus films look loving awful to this day and pale in comparison to anything after Aronofsky took the reigns. Wait Aronofsky did a Harry Potter?! edit - Also regarding Avengers 2, isnt that Quicksilver from the new X-Men? Whats he doing there? I havent seen any of those movies.
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bows1 posted:Wait Aronofsky did a Harry Potter?! A complicated rights agreement that neither side feels like suing each other over, as far as I can tell.
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Oct 29, 2014 15:49
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Marvel and Fox share custody for Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in movies. Funny enough both Quicksilvers were in Kick-rear end, a Marvel-published book.
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PriorMarcus posted:Except that once Prisoner came out the entire look of the films changed. The Columbus films look loving awful to this day and pale in comparison to anything after Aronofsky took the reigns. A Darren Aronofsky-directed Harry Potter would be interesting, but I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Alfonso Cuáron
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The Chris Columbus Harry Potter movies look ridiculously awful. The best comparison I can think of is Sam Raimi Spiderman 1 but without any of his energy or imagination. Personally I think envisioning Hogwarts as a church on a golf course was a bold move.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Especially when you compare it to contemporaneous films - even The Mummy 2, a movie that is literally unfinished, looks better. Nevermind Lord of the Rings, Black Hawk Down, etc. Where can I read more on this?
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Oct 29, 2014 17:16
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Rubber mullet Rock will show you the way.
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I dunno, I assumed it was semi well known that The Mummy Returns had a set in stone release date that Universal was not going to change, so they rushed like hell through post-production and it really shows.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I dunno, I assumed it was semi well known that The Mummy Returns had a set in stone release date that Universal was not going to change, so they rushed like hell through post-production and it really shows. Then again Sommers is pretty terrible at using CGI in his movies.
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Alhazred posted:Then again Sommers is pretty terrible at using CGI in his movies. That doesn't explain why The Mummy looks way better than The Mummy Returns.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:21
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Vintersorg posted:Where can I read more on this? I want to know more as well. Did some google searching and all I came up with was someone on another forum posting about the ILM budget running out or something. Anyone got a good link on this?
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It isn't even like The Mummy Returns has aged poorly. I was aghast sitting in the theater with how lovely it looked.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:That doesn't explain why The Mummy looks way better than The Mummy Returns. But it does explains why The Mummy still looks kinda lovely.
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Not to derail this discussion further, but has there been a thread/blog/misc resource talking about the Harry Potter movies. I'd love to read what other people see that I couldn't see about them.
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The Mummy looks cool
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GrandpaPants posted:Not to derail this discussion further, but has there been a thread/blog/misc resource talking about the Harry Potter movies. I'd love to read what other people see that I couldn't see about them. HERMIONE DIES
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kiimo posted:HERMIONE DIES NOOOooOOoo you bitch you bitch
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She dies of old age like most of the other major characters.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:yeah The Avengers is by no means a great looking movie but the first Harry Potter has gotta be one of the fugliest blockbusters of all time The music and cool detailed sets are enough to charm me while I watch it at least.
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The MSJ posted:She dies of old age like most of the other major characters. After Voldemort blasts them with his latest, most lethal spell of rapid aging!
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kiimo posted:It isn't even like The Mummy Returns has aged poorly. I was aghast sitting in the theater with how lovely it looked.
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Teaser trailer for Ex Machina, from the writer of 28 Days Later and Sunshine. I feel kinda cold on it, but that may be because it's not based on the comic book series of the same name. But from the writing credentials, it's good to see that the trailer shows the tonal shift that the movie will inevitably have halfway through. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-HiQ9K2uf4
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Chris Colombus' direction is pretty bog standard "Composition 101" in terms of shot construction and blocking... but man at least he achieves that much. The shots aren't flashy or especially interesting, but they at least have a basic level of intent with angle, proportion, eye-line, etc. supporting the story, which is more than I can say for the majority of the Marvel directors. The last few films, have so many perplexing angle choices. Like the crew just wanted to have coverage, and so long as the action was in frame it didn't particularly matter what that frame was. On Ex Machina, I'll give anything written by Alex Garland a fair shake. Not sure how I feel about the production design, seems impractically flashy for the content, but the final films tone might accommodate it.
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Bugblatter posted:Chris Colombus' direction is pretty bog standard "Composition 101" in terms of shot construction and blocking... but man at least he achieves that much. The shots aren't flashy or especially interesting, but they at least have a basic level of intent with angle, proportion, eye-line, etc. supporting the story, which is more than I can say for the majority of the Marvel directors. The last few films, have so many perplexing angle choices. Like the crew just wanted to have coverage, and so long as the action was in frame it didn't particularly matter what that frame was. I just remember always finding Half Blood Prince to be the ugliest Harry Potter movie. It just looks... murky.
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Yeah the later movies got really drab production design wise. I recall thinking it looked like Underworld with a moderately larger budget. The photography ranged from solid to gorgeous though. I don't have a clear memory of which film is which after 4 though. Delbonnel shot one and knocked it out of the park. He took the subdued aesthetic and used it to get some really lovely compositions, in a haunting and ghost-like manner. Edit: Hah, looked it up and Delbonnel's was Half-Blood Prince. I'll have to disagree with you there. Maybe you saw it poorly projected, or in a badly calibrated television? I say that because the way he played with subtle and dark tones could easily go to poo poo if the presentation was somehow sub-par. Bugblatter fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Oct 31, 2014 |
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GrandpaPants posted:Teaser trailer for Ex Machina, from the writer of 28 Days Later and Sunshine. I feel kinda cold on it, but that may be because it's not based on the comic book series of the same name. But from the writing credentials, it's good to see that the trailer shows the tonal shift that the movie will inevitably have halfway through. Oscar Isaac is a chameleon.
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GrandpaPants posted:Teaser trailer for Ex Machina, from the writer of 28 Days Later and Sunshine. I feel kinda cold on it, but that may be because it's not based on the comic book series of the same name. But from the writing credentials, it's good to see that the trailer shows the tonal shift that the movie will inevitably have halfway through. I'm on board.
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When did trailers change? Like.. ok if you look at the old ghostbusters trailer, it doesnt have the same pizzaz as modern trailers. Its actually pretty boring. The first footage trailer for Jurassic Park is somewhat meh. Thinking back to when i was younger, the first trailer I ever really got loving pumped for was Episode 1. And even that one... So at what point do trailers become a bigger deal. I feel like its probably episode one. Where people would go see movies JUST to see the trailer.
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Bugblatter posted:Yeah the later movies got really drab production design wise. I recall thinking it looked like Underworld with a moderately larger budget. The photography ranged from solid to gorgeous though. I don't have a clear memory of which film is which after 4 though. Delbonnel shot one and knocked it out of the park. He took the subdued aesthetic and used it to get some really lovely compositions, in a haunting and ghost-like manner. Half Blood Prince (movie 6) has a lot of blue/sepia colors and is a bit muted, but I love it because it's so moody it fits the plot. I only have it on dvd and it's still gorgeous though on my tv, especially the ending.
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BlueBayou posted:When did trailers change? Like.. ok if you look at the old ghostbusters trailer, it doesnt have the same pizzaz as modern trailers. Its actually pretty boring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpKbULrB9Z8
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BlueBayou posted:When did trailers change? Like.. ok if you look at the old ghostbusters trailer, it doesnt have the same pizzaz as modern trailers. Its actually pretty boring. I'd say in the mid 90s, and primarily with action movies. Theaters were just getting much louder at that point (consolidation of American media is a theme of the 90s). I remember the ID4 trailer being ear-smashing. But as early as '93 trailers were being pumped up. BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Nov 1, 2014 |
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I think the Charlie's Angels 2 trailer is a good late example of the shift to style over substance. I worked with the guy who cut it and he said they spent weeks trying to work out a coherent edit that told the story, but it was impossible because the movie was awful and didn't make any loving sense in the first place. Eventually, they just said "gently caress it, we do a music video" and whammo, 37 million dollar opening weekend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O2XOYXwZJQ
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BlueBayou posted:When did trailers change? Like.. ok if you look at the old ghostbusters trailer, it doesnt have the same pizzaz as modern trailers. Its actually pretty boring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0DFvWLXv9U
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second-hand smegma posted:I'd say in the mid 90s, and primarily with action movies. Theaters were just getting much louder at that point (consolidation of American media is a theme of the 90s). I remember the ID4 trailer being ear-smashing. I worked as a projectionist and showed many different ID4 trailers, including the movie itself, many many times and don't remember it being any louder than other trailers. Movies has been the last bastion of proper dynamic sound, though it's been slipping lately and started showing signs of the loudness war. The thing that happened during the 90s though, was theaters getting digital sound and THX, with it's stupid standards and references levels. Every theater is calibrated to play movies at a specific level (at our theater it was 6 out of 10), but I have only once shown a movie at the recommended level, and that was because the mixing was completely hosed and the dialogue was way way too low in the mix. The movie was The Mummy 2. Even when screening movies only for myself, I didn't turn it up to reference, and I loving love loud movies.
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Trump posted:I worked as a projectionist and showed many different ID4 trailers, including the movie itself, many many times and don't remember it being any louder than other trailers. Movies has been the last bastion of proper dynamic sound, though it's been slipping lately and started showing signs of the loudness war. I was a projectionist for a little while, too and I know a bit of what you're talking about. The ID4 thing is anecdotal, since I was in middle school and went to see Mission: Impossible several times, I remember the ID4 trailer being incredibly loud, but that theater was running DTS in its earlier days...so it's possible that it wasn't calibrated for the theater properly or that they were just trying to compete with the stadium multiplex across the street by being all about decibels.
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second-hand smegma posted:I was a projectionist for a little while, too and I know a bit of what you're talking about. The ID4 thing is anecdotal, since I was in middle school and went to see Mission: Impossible several times, I remember the ID4 trailer being incredibly loud, but that theater was running DTS in its earlier days...so it's possible that it wasn't calibrated for the theater properly or that they were just trying to compete with the stadium multiplex across the street by being all about decibels. I doubt they got a DTS disc for a trailer, atleast I never heard about it happening here in Denmark.
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Interesting to hear about the loudness war. I've always had a sneaking suspicion that movies have slowly been getting louder, but, just like when I go to small club shows and cover my ears, figure it's the kind of thing I'll just get teased for. It's one of my regrets with IMAX and all of the Nolan features that have shown there- TDKR was ear-splittingly loud, with bass so high in the mix you couldn't hear any dialogue (nevermind what Bane was saying).
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Jewmanji posted:Interesting to hear about the loudness war. I've always had a sneaking suspicion that movies have slowly been getting louder, but, just like when I go to small club shows and cover my ears, figure it's the kind of thing I'll just get teased for. It's one of my regrets with IMAX and all of the Nolan features that have shown there- TDKR was ear-splittingly loud, with bass so high in the mix you couldn't hear any dialogue (nevermind what Bane was saying). Man, you should have heard Bane in IMAX before they fixed his voice. Almost literally incomprehensible. Edit- oh hey, you can: http://youtu.be/dZW5qyc2g6U Now imagine that garbled nonsense coming out of speakers that are literally splitting your ears with the bass from the background music blasting. GonSmithe fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Nov 1, 2014 |
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